Debemur Morti own a thesaurus

Such a solid track and full of emotion

"soul-searching conflagration of atypical melodicism, immaculate virtuosic dexterity and sublimated psychological upheaval"
lmao come on

hell yeah what a track

Did Jacq get a job at Debemur Morti or something?

God I love that cover.

That description definitely reads like a Sput death metal review, lol.
Nice track.

tbf, if you aren’t scratching your head wondering where the tracklist ends and the review begins, is it really a death metal review at all

Track slays

more melodic makes it feel that little bit more DSO, which is nice since newest DSO wasn't great.

Came here to talk shit but I was surprised by this. It's actually melodic and the drummer ain't hitting random shit it sounds like.

its an ulcerate song

nice bloc, was actually thinking you might kinda like this haha

it's like death metal but better

trilo you know me suspiciously well

hehe ;)

"soul-searching conflagration of atypical melodicism, immaculate virtuosic dexterity and sublimated psychological upheaval"

agreed. Preordering the SHIT out of this

Why do bands keep writing those cringey descriptions lol

"New musix good,go buy" is more than enough

"Why do bands keep writing those cringey descriptions lol"

marketing strategy that literally worked on the poster above you. As much as they want to release quality music, they are also a business

"its an ulcerate song" [2]
And ugh, it was a bit long one. But hey, I'm interested.

2020 needs this

People complaining about words longer than four letters, typical sput.

Saw em for the last album and if they come to NA again, dont miss it. Drummer was a straight tour de force.

thrash is trash and so is inflameswethrash666

spectacular, per usual.

10/10 song, album is gonna rule...obviously.

I mean, I'm extra as fuck and even I think the press release is a bit silly

Song is stunning tho

A new direction. Kinda.

They finally read my strongly worded email

“Came here to talk shit but I was surprised by this. It's actually melodic and the drummer ain't hitting random shit it sounds like.“

Bloc you don’t have a great grasp of rhythm do you

I graduated from the Meg White School of Rhythm so fuck you

I figured it was inevitable that they move in this more tonal direction. They had really done as much as they could with their classic sound between EIF, Destroyers, and Shrines

its only a slight change. i like the song but i really need them to try some new shit by now or im going to feel underwhelmed.

sexy

"thrash is trash and so is inflameswethrash666"

That hurt

'I figured it was inevitable that they move in this more tonal direction.'

Do you dig the high levels of tonal musicality?

Bugger, if bloc likes this it probably sucks.

It's still liberally peppered with dissonance, and I'm curious if this track will represent the entire album. The production is very nice on this, hearing the intricate parts being able to really breathe does wonders for my enjoyment of their sound.

This record is probably going to be my AOTY. I cannot think of any worthy contestants releasing new records this year.

is it just me, or is this the best mix they ever had?

[2]

i think destroyers is their best production job but this is def 2nd

This is the coolest thing these guys have done since destroyers tbqh

also agreed

Shrines of Paralysis was arguably superior to Destroyers and its production was also nothing to scoff at.

I remember a lot of people scoffing at Shrines' production back when it came out. apparently the vinyl mix was better or something

Truth ^

this song is incredible

^can confirm

new track is great but i expected that

I just can't get enough of this one, it's been on repeat for the past 3 days

hmm, it's still unmistakeabky ulcerate but really gothic and melodic for their standards. might need to digest it a bit more but i dig it for sure

"its an ulcerate song"

least accurate description

super good but a big step away from their usual style, which I like a lot
hoping for more chaotic songs as well

this track is beautiful, it's really anguished sounding, i can hear the DsO relations at times like another poster said, although it also reminds me of like a Black Metal ISIS or something.

and people should not be afraid of being ''cringy'' or whatever, this is music, art, i like descriptions like this because there isn't enough of them in Black Metal, Black Metal should always be absurd and extreme, whether that's burning churches or just being extreme in whatever youre doing, even expressing yourself with no shame like this description of the album did.

I need to hear the whole album before I decide if I like the new direction. But given their track record I’m sure it’ll be good

Eons I agree, it's all part of the package of listening to this kind of music. Time to bust out that Morbid Angel "Extreme Music for Extreme People" shirt.

That was actually pretty good wtf

Production actually sounds great too, unlike their last one who was painful

I didn't think Shrines was bad, but this definitely has more headspace like Destroyers did.

are you talking about the press release? because that's the kind of language every promoter puts into promo packages.

666it is the best shit since sliced bread though999

Alright, good enough for me. I'm glad we could make a deal today.

This song is so good, I can't stop listening to it

Hell yeah, it's hyping me way too much

This band is like an industrial sunset. Utterly beautiful destruction. No idea how they can keep putting out such impeccable material.

Oh yeah this is fantastic

"Shit's like the antithesis of fun or engaging", what? You must have the most unimaginative definition of engaging. Ulcerate's sound is utterly immersive and incredibly dense.

Besides, this stuff isn't supposed to be 'fun' in the more straightforward sense. Ulcerate's music is emotionally terrifying and overwhelming, touching upon a range of sensations usually on the more darker side of the emotional spectrum, something quite a bit more emotionally nuanced, comlex and appealing than 'fun', a term which more so invokes a sense of banality and a refusal to transgress musical boundaries. This would be something I would generally associate with shallowness, not with aesthetic or musical depth.

@666hxmxcxdx999 It surely is, you simply haven't been listening. Then again, emotional experiences are rather relative, but to suggest that they are merely Isis + tech-death is rather obtuse: they take influence from classical music, jazz (especially chordially) and even black-metal (especially in the vain of DsO). Even their post-metal influences seem to be more related to outfits such as Neurosis and Amenra than Isis. As for song-writing chops, their ability to juxtapose minimalism and maximalism, their fluid song-structures, their ability to create 'controlled chaos' and the way in which they layer their instruments to craft these immersive walls of sound all point to some serious compositional capacities.

Although there can be a superficial 'homogeny' to their dense sound, they are anything but sterile, something one notices when they really dive into the their music: it contains an endless web of sounds, constanly shifting time signatures, tempos etc. Their music has amazing dynamism, it's partially why it sounds so frenetic. It may not become an instant earworm, however, it is anthing but unmemorable. To suggest that it's mindless wank implies it isn't meticulously composed, that it's just chaos instead of controlled chaos. It just seems as if you're just not listening if you come to this rather incorrect conclusion. I suppose we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this matter.

from 5:30 until the end is one their finest moments

@666hxmxcxdx999 I never said that having influences equalled quality, or that the Ulcerate's nuance was related to their influences. Instead, I merely stated that your designation was wholly inadequate. Furthermore, their homogeny is superificial, in that their song structures are so complex, their songs so dynamic, their chords and melodies so off-kilter that every compostion seems, and in a way is, profoundly heterogeneous.

To deny this, implies you're just not paying attention. All music becomes white noise if you're not willing to fully engage with music itself. For Ulcerate this is especially true given the dense nature of their sound, it's the type of band you really have to sit down for and listen carefully. In the end however, it's all worth every second.

It is neither one-dimensional nor formulaic. Sure the music has its aesthetic tendencies and atmospheric qualities, but it's infinitely complex and layered, textured, dynamic and completely unpredictable in its progressions, it's what gives Ulcerate its chaotic and intense sound, something you yourself already hinted at in earlier remarks.

For a person so seemingly sure of his hatred for this group, it seems as if you're just bashing this music, because you refuse to understand it or engage with it in a meaningful way. I cannot help but shake the feeling you berate this group in the manner that you do, simply so you can make yourself feel better about not liking Ulcerate or to annoy people like Jac who do enjoy this type of music. As if you feel down for not liking this stuff, so you just go around trolling people who do. I'm really getting some strange inferiority complex, slave morality vibes from your comments my guy.

couldnt agree more

@666hxmxcxdx999 Haha, so extreme dyanism is going to be equated to an attention-deficit? And you're going to imply they only use dissonance? I really wonder what your definition of dissonance must be, perhaps you're confusing a wall of dissonance, with a wall of atonality, dissonance, eerie melodies, strange chromatic chords etc. Whatever one is capable of producing on a fretted guitar, Ulcerate do it; their guitar work is by far some of the most melodically and chordially interesting in death-metal. The bass work is equally top of the curve: blazingly fast, hyper-precise, highly dynamic, soulcrushing. And don't even get me started on the bloody drums.

When I speak of layers, I respond to the claims of one-dimensionality, something not applicable to band which always has three different instruments with lots of distortion and dynamic patterns operating on full force during the music's non-minimalist moments. The music undeniably has layers. Again, the lack variety is something one wouldn't necessarily associate with 'a short attention span'. As far as aesthetics go, the band has subtly changed their sound and style over the course of their discography, but of course for you to have noticed that, you would have to actually pay attention to the music. Something you clearly do not, as evidenced by your comments. If you're fundamentally against their core aesthetic, then I don't know what to say: that simply isn't a position you've sufficiently substantiated.

As far as that anecdotal evidence goes you cited above, it means literally nothing. If you were to ask me what I like about this band and their compositions, I could write you a 10-page essay and I still wouldn't be done exhaustively describing my love for this group. Whatever someone might reply to you about the music, it needn't represent its level of profundity. Ulcerate are absolutely incredible from a lyrical, instrumental, vocal, compositional and aesthetic perspective. So no, this fictious law of averages you speak of does not apply, unless you consume music like an obtuse zombie and presume it to all be made in accordance to some readily intelligible, essentialistic formula which can easily be reproduced. I think you're confusing mainstream pop-music with techinical, experimental death-metal. The group has never released a virtually identical song, they have an overarching aesthetic perhaps, but the undeniable dynamism and complexity of their sound almost defies description and certainly escapes the non-existent boundaries you've so wrongly imposed upon it.

@666hxmxcxdx999
My point still stands: you're just hating for the sake of hating, pulling yourself up by talking down to something you refuse to meaningfully engage with, while reproaching people for deriving meaning from it. You're being the 'stan' here buddy and a stan with a serious dose of slave morality shaping his remarks at that.

based thread

@666hxmxcxdx999 You know dissonance can only be achieved through playing at least two notes right? Also, post-death metal seems to discount the various other influences I've mentioned. A comment you so graciously misinterpreted, yet admitted to nevertheless. Lastly, I never argued Ulcerate produces the 'most nuanced art', but for a band containing only 3 individuals, playing 3 different instruments, it has all the bloody nuance you could ask for.

Then again, I suppose I can't expect any more from you than self-contradicting pseudo-arguments and asinine, infantile screeching about art you've never cared to meaningfully engage with anyway. Nice trolling stan.

Cool track

melodic, brutal, rifftastic, heavy, emotional, beautiful

stop taking the bait with sach's nonsense and stop writing twelve paragraphs to explain why tech death is ackchually high class art

@zaruyache:
You're right, sometimes I just can't resist stupidity for some reason. Also, apologies for my verbosity, I like to be comprehensive. Besides, I never really considered the high/low art distinction to be meaningful: it's a rather nonsensical and biased dichotomy that serves no meaningful pratical purpose. Moreover, I wasn't arguing that techinical death metal was high art anyway, those are 666hxmxcxdx999's words (and yours), not mine.

whats going on, sowing letting sach stick around this time?

you've just caught him in the interim between bannings

"I never really considered the high/low art distinction to be meaningful: it's a rather nonsensical and biased dichotomy that serves no meaningful pratical purpose"

Allows for subversion when artists purposefully throw the two against each other. 'arthouse' in general is basically underpinned by this

song slays y'all are way overthinking this

i just listened to it again while in this thread and it's p good yeah

Yeah what’s with the diatribes itt? Song smashes planets. Enough said.

did your comment say "smashes plants" at first? or am i joining Joe Biden?

this entire thread makes the press release look fucking blue-collar

song slaps btw, i'm absolutely loving the production

@JohnnyoftheWell Sure, however if one limits the juxtapositions one can make, to be between whatever the dominant culture considers 'high' or 'low art' seems artistically inhibiting. Wouldn't it be far more aesthetically liberating to just do away with limited categories and biased binaries? Besides, wouldn't one's adherence to that binary within their artistic process not also create the risk of reproducing the very limitations that distinction could place upon the art itself, something I reckon isn't necessarily subversive to begin with, certainly not from a postmodern perspective.

Hahaha holy shit, thats going on my pasta list.

@Memento theoretically yes, if you dismantled that + similar dichotomies and made all art a level playing field it would be more creatively liberated. In practice tho most creative projects are reactions against/responses to similar projects, so it's only natural that those kinds of polarities emerge. Much easier to situate scope and intention that way, and I actually think fewer people would undertake creative stuff without them (defs on an amateur level) - getting over the question of "where to start" is never something to take for granted. As for pomo, recognising the limitations of these structures doesn't invalidate them, which is why so much postmodern art seems to take an active delight in pastiche//blending existing conventions irreverently rather than foregoing them entirely. Hmu in the the Immoto thread if you wanna reply, don't wanna derail this thread any further

Praise be to the pasta train

I'm not a tech death fan but like this band, and bands like Gorguts. Actually I can't stand most tech-death music. Especially the sort of ''schizophrenic'' stuff where the bands just jizz all over the guitar with notes which have no musicality or pattern or songwriting at all.

Eons you got some examples of guitar jizz tech death

Everything has its time and place
Sometimes I like dissonant, sometimes I like atmospheric, sometimes I like wank for the sake of wank, sometimes I like caveman

Then again, I'm easy to please

nah that wank shit is trash, stuff like Between the Buried and Me, Obscura, The Faceless, etc.

I don’t like BTBAM or The Faceless but I don’t have a problem with Obscur, the early stuff anyway.

"you've just caught him in the interim between bannings"

hes still here though, thats like a whole 2 or 3 days, sowing usually seems to get him pretty quick.

i dont care, im just speculating, sounds like youre offended though. did you hop on that ol' sach dick as well?

that guy is an obvious troll.

although i do believe some opinions can be wrong, or at least unfounded. For example some guy who is into super clean technical death metal, he turns on some Black Metal from the 90's, like Darkthrone or something, he says ''This band sucks because the music is muddy and it sounds like shit''

this opinion, for example, is retarded because the band were not aiming to make ''cleanly produced music'' so you can't say they suck if you're judging them by that metric. For what Darkthrone were trying to do, they succeeded, the tech death guy just dislikes the sound, which is fine but to say the band sucks is retarded.

When I said tech death sucks I mean I dislike the music.

theres actually a guy on YT who does this by the way, he says Burzum and such is objectively bad as metal music. He judges Burzum against Dream Theater, and he's like DT sounds better and cleaner so Burzum sucks therefore and is bad metal. Which is just retarded imo.

the guys channel is called ''Become the Knight'' and he's actually a pretty popular metal channel on YT. Enough to have a patreon and make money on there.

@Johnny:
Thanks for clarifying your position. I will formulate my reply on the Immoto thread as requested.

^ lol this fuckin guy.

baptized in sachs cum, another acolyte is born!

i'm taking away your posting privileges death

Magnificent stuff, I like the way they've slown down on this track.

Wow, what a difference to their older stuff! These dudes definitely wimped out and sold out!!!
Fucking awesome song, can't wait for the album!!

Agreed dude, i'm digging their more pop-oriented approach.

Death pop

ugh that clean break

STARE INTO DEATH AND BE STILL
THE DARKNESS AHEAD

We jam second single NOW

just drop the alb early corona got us starvin’ out here!

Do it

Unusually catchy for the band's standards.

Ok they really releasing the best album of the year

as if there was ever any doubt about that

I'm loving all the drawn out dissonant sections they're throwing in. Very Immortal-esque. Super pumped for the album.

Oh yes, I'm ready

legit one of the best songs this band has ever written