Excited af for this! The new songs sound great, sad that Jon Karel won't be rejoining though

ah fuck, I was just coming to say "I'll listen if Karel is still with the band". Dude rules.

not feeling it. the first three albums are amazing, looks like this'll be more in the vein of worse than alone than those albums. unfortunate but not surprising

worse than alone >>>

Worse than alone is their best and most consistent album

Did these guys ever learn how to write cohesive songs?

so should we just start a gofundme to entice karel back into the band?
edit: because i NEED it. v bad.

ruin the smile is solid but wow i don't like raised and erased

also jon is too busy running like a really, really successful bar in buffalo apparently

he's drumming again, though. Just started posting drumming stuff very recently

Who knows, he might play a show or a few songs with them on some dates. I had heard the reason he didn't rejoin was because he was too busy with the bar to tour/record, but he played with them in 2017 https://youtu.be/udl_FrwPzHY

Huuuge #12 fan, been following these singles annnd idk still hasnt clicked with me. This is the third rhythm section theyve had and probably the least dominate(not a bad thing just a new dyanmic), the drum mix also sounds slightly off(very kurt ballou). I miss the justin dual vox aswell. Still probably gonna see them in october and grab a copy, math/noisecore scenes been pretty solid lately annd at least these two tracks sound different from each other

they're still great live so I'd say go see them if you can. I'm digging raised and erased, especially that part with eric nally

i dont see why people might be struggling with these singles, they sound great to me, No. 12 doing what they do best but i will say Ruin the Smile is the better one out of the two

i missed them on the worse than alone touuuur , theeen missed them open for umm dillinger annnd the nuclear sad nuclear anniversary tour, definitely still have a craving to see them live tho. and yeah i thought that was jase when i first heard it lol, i had a better first impression with raised oddly enough. i will say alexs guitar work is still sick as fuck

The NSN tour was immense. Hoped they'd have done mongrel this year but oh well.

These definitely both grow on you, been jamming them since they came out and they both get stuck in my head regularly now. Production is immensely better than the past IMO. Very stoked for this release.

that number 2 smells like you