Song of the year.

Video of the year so far.

Thugga Thugga on that outro tho....whew

I guess I was foolish for expecting him to stick to the style from Awaken, but nevertheless kinda disappointed in the trappy rap tone of this track. Dope video though.

weird

Agree hard with furpa.
Awaken had such a great vibe going on, and dare I say mature?
This feels like a step back musically, but I guess it’s what his fans want?

I dunno, I jumped on board with his last album so what would I know?

That video. Damn

Summer song found. Commence flailing wildly.




All seriousness this is probably my favorite Gambino video; can't wait for the new album.

I like this guys comedy but I can’t get into any of his music.

Oh damn. Song of the year. Baseline gives me chills.

Trolling the NRA and the Trap scene by producing the most interesting traöish beat of the year. Daaaayum Donald!

WOW. For sure checking out this album!

this was one of the most boring modern rap songs I've ever heard

like he's never been good but this is horrible. and people say lil pump has nothing to say lmao

how do people like this song? it sucks

fellas be woke

One of the best videos I’ve ever watched. Song is fire

you are white

childish gambino fans be like https://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/members/1119090.jpg

it's a good audiovisual experience

video is great but the rap parts feel really boringly executed

The song is much more powerful with the video. I'm not sure it translates to just audio.

It sounds just as good as just audio tbh.

Opening your mouth and saying nothing that hasn't already been said before + edgy gunshots 10/10

Amazing video, kind of a boring song
Together it's great, but doesn't translate as well alone. I'll have to see if it grows on me

Cool video but he's so much better than this.

Torts is right, this is trash.

So good.

Trent Reznor

"I can't remember the last time I watched a music video all the way to the end, let alone one five times in a row. Incredible work! #ThisIsAmerica"

Yeezy should clap back on this joint

huh. catchy

Cool video but the song is all over the place

The song is much more powerful with the video. I'm not sure it translates to just audio. [2]

Still dig it, but it's kind of a weird track unaccompanied

Song really isn't that good but the video is pretty damn great

sounds like literally every other trap rap song ever made

huh did gospel interludes with acoustic guitar become a thing in trap while I was gone or

The beat drop isnt even trap. Try again.

unironically powerful

this is about as powerful as im not racist lmaoooooooooo

this song is infinitely worse as just audio but combined with the video it genuinely has Music Video of the Year written all over it

What a fantastic music video

Not super into the song but the video more than makes up for it

These comments are way edgier than the song tbf

video is one of the best ive seen in ages, song is good but yeah not as powerful without the visuals

The rap bits sound too much like Future's awful 'rap'. Sounds so dry and bland. The other sections are nice and I hope the album contains more of those bits than rap. Hoping he keeps the awaken my love vibes intact.

entertaining vid

Really liked both the video and the song. This is coming from someone who has not been sold on Gambino so far

songs not bad in terms of the sound/beat/production, like it more than the funk style stuff on his last album, but every single popular artist getting political is getting old tbh

it's meh... the coliding styles coming together at the end didn't feel realizing at all... anticlimatic.

Overall, average tune. Too much hype.

For anybody who is disappointed that this doesn't sound like Awaken, he performed another new song on SNL called "Saturday." Go check that one out, I like that song much better. I think he's bringing together elements from his whole career for this "final" album (though how long has he been saying he's done as Childish Gambino now?)

Anyways, this is an interesting track. My feelings are a bit mixed, because it's not what I expected. I think I like it though? But only time will tell if I continue to like it, or if it because the annoying single that I skip (for example, Green Day's Know Your Enemy)

Great vid, not a fan of the song

Vidya kicks big chubby dick

The intentionally jerky movements mimicking the Jim Crow stereotype of people of color is brilliant. Never seen that in a music video before. Gambino is a legend

Video is phenomenal, this video actually has me interested to check out his other stuff.

grows on you the more you listen

dreadful song

This is america.. where people listen to this garbage and think he's saying something profound and enlightening.

The song is okay, but i really love this video

The song sounds like basic mainstream rap stuff, not too interesting. Video has cool dancing and edgy shooting so thats neato

video is awesome

Song of the century

So is Donald Glover pretty much doing what Kanye West thinks he's doing?

people freaking out over these lyrics HOW

this is america yuh yuh gunshots gunshots party party police brutality.

It's babies first ryhme scheme ffs.

i have twitter too @DinosaurJones

@rabidfish people are freaking out over the video

The song+video is a social commentary on the current state of hip-hop and general life for a lot of black people in America. This should be pretty obvious. The lyrics are tongue in cheek.

the video is nice. Nothing mind-blowing.
the song is boring
the lyrics are dumb (tongue in cheek or not)

People ARE freaking out about the lyrics and how 'Deep' and 'meaningful' they are. Tho i'm begining to doubt Twitter holds any human conversation anymore. Most of it reads much more like AI trying to figure human interactions out and failing miserably.

I can't wait for the This Is America sung by Kermit the Frog meme

There's a lot going on the background of the video, which is probably the point. If you watch it once or twice, you don't really pay attention to the background.

That said, I can't wait for the This Is America sung by Kermit the Frog meme [2]

Goofy version

Lmao that too

Yeah lyrics seriously aren't deep like at all

If the song dropped without this video, people would be talking about how hyped/disappointed they are that he's doing trap now, and nothing else.

lyrics are dumb, song is boring, video is an attention grab

people who don't like this are white and live in trailers fact

AlexK is dropping that truth and yall barely listen

the lyrics are simplistic and repetitive because that's literally the whole point

also once again: this isn't trap

yea ok dude

'it's not trap'

got it (wink wink)

Good critique of how dumb hip-hop is now.

I’m gonna make a really bad song ironically so people can say they like it because it’s making fun of bad music. But the music is still bad! So what are you accomplishing? Irony is childish because you are still just doing the thing you are making fun of. It’s extremely easy to trash music (especially nowadays) but it it’s hard to be original and this dude just fucking isn’t.

Modern rap still blows.

Agreed

irony is awesome, shut up--

this lazy, tho.

I mean don’t get me wrong I love irony and satire as much as the next guy but let’s not pretend like it’s some high brow art form or something. We definitely need it to keep pretentiousness and shit in check and a sense of humor so that art never takes itself too seriously. I’m all for it. But you have to have something else or it wears thin IMO.

you guys aren't big on medium having a message huh

nice

Uh no quite the opposite actually. That’s why shooting a bunch of choir singers comes off as weird and forced to me. Like are you saying those church shootings were horrific and terrible? Uh yeah nobody disagrees with that lol. Just seems shallow.

i'm just sayin. Reading too much into shit is very much a real thing. The video is not of my concern, tho, it's nice, it's flashy, it's got black people dancing and running from cops, whatever.

It's just such a mediocre, bland, boring, meh song, tho.

Video is pretty lame and song was even worse agreed

Most of ya'll are fucking idiots. Good fucking god

the song is really good / i like the frankenstein swiveling back and forth between tones / the video lifts it to a whole new level as well

"So how's it been 40 years and all we fuckin rap about is weapons"

“the lyrics are simplistic and repetitive because that's literally the whole point”

so the song is bad because it’s supoosed to be bad. aaahh right, gotcha

Simplistic = bad? Since when? Why dilute a song's message, bogging it down with distracting imagery and wordplay, if it is supposed to be frank and straight to the vein?

not inherently but come on, you’re kidding yourself if you think this songs message is anything even remotely special or meaningful.

this is america guns in my area... police be trippin’ now... I got the strap, I gotta carry em


I mean come on it gets even worse than that. it’s uncreative, lazily delivered, and while what he raps about is a genuine issue let’s stop pretending this is something profound

the video is good, the imagery and allusions to jim crow, lynch mobs, stereotypes, etc was really wonderfully and powerfully done. it just falls flat for me with that song

the next MLK.

so sputnik doesn't know what trap is. got it. I'm a huge fan of the video and its message though. song itself does grow the more you listen to it too.

I have no idea what the fuck trap is, tbh.

I think this is a decent-to-good song, but as a whole with the video, it's phenomenal.

I get hating the song, but damn y'all hating on the video? I try to watch every music video (at least mainstream) that comes out and that was better than 90% of what I've seen.

really enjoying watching all these people in the comment section not get it, its super entertaining.

'Look at these monkeys, they don't get it huehuehue
i'm so cultured and smart'

If he did a stand up special and told a bunch of really awful jokes to be satirical about the state of comedy today isn’t he still just telling awful jokes?

I honestly think he had the video idea and reverse engineered that into a song, the video is what pretty much everyone thinks is actually inspired

like just because you don't agree with a statement doesn't make it try hard lmao. "god i'm so sick of the blacks talking about people killing them because of their skin color can they just fuck off already"

[2]

if you say this is try hard, you probably mad white. the problem isn't the subject, it's how shallow what he's saying is. if anything, it's as far as possible from try hard, cause while the video is very good on a visual side, i feel like someone like gambino could make a lot better of silent statements outside of very surface level observations of how society ignores important social issues, ppl are more interested in guns, pop culture, etc. etc.

I haven't heard the song but I did see this Paper Mario TTYD meme of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEqgxPRo64g

and man, what a good vid

ttyd is my fav game of all time so thank you for that

I love that game so much, my favorite Gamecube game ez and definitely top ten overall

It works so well lmao

I feel like he did it in a way to represent how popular music has become a derivitive distraction. It goes with the theme in the video where all this shit is happening in the background of the video while the focal point is him and other people dancing. Thats just my take tho

Shoutout to the Sputnik users who can name one white dude shot by five oh.

So basically we're in the age old conundrum of a socially charged message either being 1; too on the nose that it takes any impact out of the message or 2; so abstract that nobody understands what the point of the message is.

Honestly I feel this falls right in the middle. I love the aspect of you being fixated on Donald the whole video while everything goes to shit in the background. It's message is clear and precise and it gets to brass tactics. People bashing the lyrics...what are you wanting from this type of message? It's about gun violence of course it's gonna be to the point, anything else would be seen as tiptoeing around the issue instead of addressing it headon.

Terrible song.

who said anything is too abstract.

I agree strongly with you Drummerboy

Great song.

They're trying too hard to be artsy just like every music video nowadays

so because a video is technically well made, does than mean the message is better? or at the end of the day are we just praising the video production and not the message? 🤔

Song is much better with the video. Likewise the video is much better with the song. That sounds obvious, but I think they rely on each other more than in other music videos as they're both mishmashes of the dark and light sides of African American culture. One side simplistically (almost too simple, if you ask me) pointing out the typical trap stuff--drugs, making money, violence--the other highlighting the joys of black culture through gospel choirs, dancing, etc.
The song itself is decent, but he's capable of much better imo. Like I get what he's trying to do lyrically but it doesn't work out. The more I think of lines like "this is America!" or "get your money, black man!" the more I cringe at them. But the video is awesome through and through

Christ, you lot are thick as shit. This is great. Talent in action.

Christ, you lot are thick as shit. This is great. Talent in action. [2]

im just not as woke as u m8

really enjoying watching all these people in the comment section not get it, its super entertaining. [2]

But also I think like it's opinions no one is dumb for not liking a thing. Like I think this is incredible but someone else can think its simplistic that's cool.

Christ, you lot are thick as shit. This is great. Talent in action. [3]
Also for those saying the song works better with the video than without, I really think this was conceived as a single multimedia experience

Whether or not it was conceived as such, that is exactly what it is. Taking it any other way hamstrings the artistic impact.

"the song is all over the place"

It keeps moving between trappy and dark to super upbeat, yeah. To me that reflects America having brief moments of self-awareness about gun violence and race issues, then quickly slipping back into the happy meal complacency as if it never happened. Gambino dances and sings about Gucci to cope with the trauma, while white America sticks its head back in the sand

imo it's cool how that is reflected in the song itself, even if that means it does not have a consistent groove

Gambino be talking guns in his area like he grew up in the hood. Song is too generic.

sometimes rappers talk from outside their perspective and experiences yes I know it blows your mind

dead kennedys talking about nazis as if they were in ww2 band is too generic

pointing out the dumb logic altho like i said earlier political lyrics are getting overdone in the genre, topic is becoming generic

blame eminem?

talking politics was always 'overdone' regardless of medium

and yea rappers have lied for the fame and money but non-rappers have done the same for same reasons. metalheads steal riffs, countryboys aren't about the lifestyle, etc. leading cause of the death of that culture I can't argue tho.

meh its become oversaturated to the extreme in hip hop especially since and including tpab

Nice points poly

And who knows, the album version of the song might be vastly different.

"People ARE freaking out about the lyrics and how 'Deep' and 'meaningful' they are. Tho i'm begining to doubt Twitter holds any human conversation anymore. Most of it reads much more like AI trying to figure human interactions out and failing miserably."

now that's a social commentary right there!

"imagine trying to hold a mirror up to america meanwhile having the fakest rappers in the game (21 savage a.k.a. 12 goofy, young thug a.k.a. the male mariah carey) featured in your video "

sach?

"its become oversaturated to the extreme in hip hop especially since and including tpab"

a reflection of the times if anything to why it was pushed to that extreme


and of course that's sach, not that hard to find him

here we go

no offense 110, but you just sounded like that guy who interpreted these awful beats as a reflection of gun violence and race issues in America.

monetary value and or popularity does not impact artistic merit

unless ur a filthy hipster contrarian type ofc

every action has a ‘price’ nothing u can do about it

The experience in question does not need to be directly personal and autobiographical, it could reflect a community experience as well. Saying Gambino can't rap about gun violence because he isn't "hood" enough is a ridiculous argument.

How qualified must one be to rap about gun violence? Do they need to have lost a family member?

"it affects experience"

it does not

unless ur a filthy hipster contrarian type ofc

Hey, 110 your life is worth much more than you can imagine. I lived in the SEA so I have a bit of connection with some guy who specialized in human trafficking especially organ trade. Let me know if you wanna "donate" your eyes or something.

lol

Damn you do drugs? there goes the price for your liver.

"How qualified must one be to rap about gun violence? Do they need to have lost a family member?"

well, it's not necessary... but it would make it that much more 'personal', 'authentic', 'relatable'. unless you have had an 'access' or experience to understand the behaviour, history, culture of something maybe outside of your own sphere of influence... like say books, movies, articles, other forms of passed-down knowledge and experiences to understand things you haven't necessarily experienced first-hand or things that have been trivialized/minimalized by close members of your circle whom are also short-sighted/willfully ignorant of topics as to not affect their own spheres to form a more closed-off worldview to bend to theirs... then maybe something like the experience of this 'message' or 'expression' could be lost on you.

coming from the most self-important person on the internet

Yikes millennials sure know how to make nothing into something. Song and rapper aren't that great calm down lol

how could u say he's not part of a community when he was in 'Community'

FourthReich wins. end thread.

nah dude its the greatest piece of art since the sistine chapel ceiling painting

The new halftime by nas

yea it sucked

yes give Fourth an award for wishing the discussion to die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THxAxzb1b8k

only good childish gambino song

Ban gun

If thats not a link to womyn 2 by heems featuring gambino im not clicking!

meanwhile sach getting banned in 3..2....

there's literally no reason for him to be banned cuz of this lol

if u think his best song is him copying lil wayne in nerd fashion then ok

>This is america

>Pulls out if iran nuclear deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahvDGo0vzsA

only good childish gambino song

his reputation precedes him

how many accounts will this have been now where we at

his best songs only good because of the beat hes never interesting lyrically or vocally

"his reputation precedes him

how many accounts will this have been now where we at"

America

kendrick did the beat better btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5eT6TaEtPI

trudeaus hella gay yeah but i can buy weed at stores now so its the cost of doin bidness

There are limits to empathy... How much can you truly 'walk in the other person's shoes' ?

Been able to legally buy weed in cali since before christ

Havent seen the vid just memes any reference to chickens getting stomped to death by kfc factories? That shit needs to stop asap.

sach trying to get more cred itt for his ~**struggle**~

bro the suicide boi meme isnt hip anymore sry

Sach has a huge dong flaccid

FAD IS OVA

damn chuck u goin THERE? ok

@guitarded about the dead Kennedy’s singing about Nazi ww2 thing. It was about neo-nazis coming to punk shows and ruining the scene not actual nazis. I do agree with your point though about not having to actual have experienced something first hand to speak on it. If that was the case no one would ever say much if anything.

Song isnt good without video

thats a good point shark

Song no good must watch video to enjoy

video is so good i can hear the music without the sound on

Song no good must watch video to enjoy

Good point there reich i felt the same way about the new death grips song

You know this is just a millennial fad when they saying shit thats never been uttered before like the song is actually total shit dude you have to watch the video with it

'you're being distracted son'

what if you're speaking from the mind about the hearts of those who wouldn't have the platform this dude has

so then it would be impossible to make a genuinely empathetic piece of art as an american/canadian/australian about say starving kids in africa if said individual had never been a starving kid in africa ?

America was built on the victim card man

lol

that's too many MCs for one mic

my favorite part about tilted sach is he always calls me a meteorologist as if thatd be a bad thing even tho im not

David hogg on the mic

Because you're a pussy!

but how could one man speak for all them he hasnt lived in all their shoes

which is it mate lets be consistent

it isnt REAL music unless the lyric are written as FIRST PERSON ACCOUNTS of ACTUAL EVENTS

Gotta agree on that, if the dude be rappin bout i dunno, having an abortion everybody would call him out. But he's black! He MUST know what gun violence Is! Right? U know who suffer gang violence and gun violence? People who come from marginal social contexts, with unstable family dynamics, absense from state integration policies and struggling local economies. Dude ain't none of that, he comes off as patronizing

if someone feels empathy towards another person, they will help them, regardless of what they can gain from it. Some of you just trying to act condescending towards others who don't sympathize with the issues at hand. Same goes with Gambino who is banking on this shit, he ain't altruistic, he only cares about that check. There is no altruism in your social media, there's only liked, retweeted, and subscribed.

"of course but he can provide anecdotes that serve as purpose enough to prove the point"

likewise someone who has felt Emotion X can relate on a real level to someone else with Emotion X though they might be in very different situations otherwise

I bet this 110 guy listens to metal where they scream about killing people and shit but never killed anyone lol disingenuousness pussy lmao!!!111

110 listens to slam metal and chief keef.

contrary to your worldview most people with any life experience have experienced struggle, we arent all born into upper middle class or better in good prosperous areas and then live a fairytale life, most dont

Sorry, I'm behind the times.

Sorry sach, your counterquestion was absurd. You can't compare Gambino penning an anthem about issues affecting black America, including ones he might not have personal experience of, to genocidal colonists appropriating indingeous art and turning it into fridge magnets

Sorry, Chuck but that's just your interpretation of said person's experience, you can't relate to the same level as someone who experienced it.

He can't relate Sach.

it would make me feel good to know someone cares and relates

Gambino isn't claiming to be an authority on this subject. He simply wants to address a myriad of issues affecting African-American communities, some of which he will have experience of, some of which he won't. This patronising messiah figure is something others are projecting onto him, including yourself

Ban black people illegally acquiring hand guns

make fun of his interpretation Sach, that shit was kinda funny.

"This patronising messiah figure is something others are projecting onto him, including yourself"

yea that's the thing. he's been careful not to have that shit run into his head so far, considering his success outside of music recently.

pandering to the millennial crowd for stream counts [2]

that much is self evident yeah

"gambino is the colonialist
the issues affecting black america are aboriginal art"

There is no parallel there. None whatsoever. You want to place Gambino on the side of the oppressor rather the oppressed, simply because he was fortunate enough to grow up experiencing less violence and poverty than some other African-Americans. That is an absurd notion

better to keep it hopeful than to keep it KANYE

I actually feel like this was more of him rapping about a low hanging fruit in an attempt to stay relevant because most people know him for the get out song

Are we this cynical when it comes to all art forms then?

TIL whining about social justice in the objectively greatest time to be alive is "keeping it hopeful"

sach ive told you 100 times youre a smart dude etc you just gotta stop spitting venom everywhere

If we're going to reduce everything This Is America has to say and offer to simply "whining about social justice" then I'm pretty done with this discussion

song not gud btw

"dumbest statement of all time potentially"

longest life spans, ton of people being pulled out of poverty everywhere including africa, tech making life easier, access to information, 80 years since major global conflict, its not even a debate

"If we're going to reduce everything This Is America has to say and offer to simply "whining about social justice" then I'm pretty done with this discussion"

>triggered

bye

wealth divergence is an issue some places but the QoC of the most poor people is increasing steadily

'gotta keep a gun on me at all times
gucci gucci gucci mane
get shot by police
gonna party like it's party day
gotta keep the po po's off me'

dude's literaly a hollywood BITCH
Imagine Antonio Banderas talking you about the problems of the latinamerican community
the song being so dull and uninteresting doesn't help, either.

https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570

book for anyone who thinks this isnt by far the best time to be alive as a human ever

Pinker argues that humanism (a reasoned commitment to maximizing human flourishing), science, and democracy have resulted in substantial, measurable human progress over the last 500 years. There are 17 chapters setting out evidence (illustrated in some 75 charts) that globally humans are living longer healthier lives (pp. 53-67); developing agricultural methods that are making great strides toward eliminating famine (68-78); increasing per capita income and reducing income inequality (71-120); working on technology and global cooperation to address pressing environmental problems (121-55); decreasing war-related deaths (156-66); increasing safety (167-90); reducing deaths caused by terrorism (191-98); adopting democratic forms of government that promote higher economic growth (200); spreading equal rights (214-32); increasing literacy and the quality of education (247-61); dramatically improving the quality of life (247-61); leading happier lives (262-89); and addressing the existential threats of overpopulation, resource shortages, and the threat of nuclear war (290-321). The book is not triumphalist but consistently evidence-based. I do not have the expertise to assess the details of the evidence Pinker relies on, but he does cite recognized authorities. And some of his conclusions are irrefutable. People are living longer. They are better fed. The rule of law does make people living in democracies safer.

"graphs mean nothing bro
technological/scientific/political/whatever progress and happiness are not directly correlated"

that is partially true and one field we need to focus on is mental health

"whether or not that can be construed as a good thing depends on who you ask (e.g. imo it's not)"


yeah i agree i think rising depression rates are actually because things are too easy

there is an inevitable complete cultural paradigm shift that is going to happen where people are going to have to find purpose somehow in the face of increasing automation

stop

increasing isolation too for sure yeah

also - culture of ever increasing narcissistic tendencies fueled by social media attention seeking

social media has definitely fucked a LOT of people up, that's something I hope we can all agree on.

Final thoughts, as the convo is moving well past Gambino:

I think his intentions are good here. He wants to use his platform to address comtemporary issues affecting the African-American community (albeit to differing degrees, depending on where you are). If someone from a lower class neighborhood comes and says "hey fuck you Donald you don't speak for me" you will have a point. Right now, the only gatekeeping being done is by a few white dudes claiming Gambino ain't hood enough to talk about this shit...

also yeah I'm closer to sach with my pessimism for the future, some things are about to get a whole lot worse in the coming decades

what does being white have to do with anything fuck off

here's to hoping sowing will stop being a hoe

yea but still at this point, there's no point and you're doing no real harm anymore

I like how you were all “hey don’t know talk about stuff or chuck is gonna lecture you for way too long” and then you proceed to submit a million comments

@sach I never said they have no platform at all. Gambino has the reach and the budget to do a multimedia project like this. That doesn’t mean someone can’t or won’t call him out on twitter if they feel he has spoken out of turn

Lol

"lmao twitter ain't a platform for shit"

you'd think but people who use that shit think otherwise, and that's the real danger

“what does being white have to do with anything fuck off”

- guitarded_chuck, ladies and gentlemen. The chill, open-minded bro who is neither very chill nor particularly open-minded. Wonder where that leaves him

polyrhythm, ladies and gentlemen. The chill, open-minded bro who is neither very chill nor particularly open-minded. Wonder where that leaves him

TIL saying white people cant empathize with black people is chill and open minded


fuck
o
f
f

C’mon sach everybody and their aunt is talking about this video. Time Magazine did a goddamn video analysis of it. If people began criticising Gambino for speaking on their behalf that shit would absolutely make the rounds

TIL generalizing people based race in any way shape or form is chill and open minded

polyrhythm most enlightened user 2018

chuck with the "I know you are but what am I"

wolfe with the "nothing substantial to add to the conversation as usual"

You took “white people shouldn’t gatekeep which black rappers can say what about issues facing African-Americans” as “white people can’t empathise with black people”? That’s some reading comprehension you got there

Chuck let's move to the community thread. I haven't replied to Volumnius Flush about the Okra gel thing.

how about "polyrhythm shouldnt gatekeep which anybody of any race say about issues facing anybody of any race"

zero self awareness

yeah im done here conversations getting too childish lets go

lasted quite awhile before snowflake sensitivity derailed it, not bad team

"zero self awareness"

"lasted quite awhile before snowflake sensitivity derailed it"

son stop with the irony

“snowflake sensitivity”

“what does being white have to do with anything, fuck off bro : ( how dare you bring up race, in this thread of all places : ( annoying how so much rap is political these days : ( there are certain subjects and words I cannot bear to have brought up, you fucking snowflake”

double post

I can't speak for the black community, since i'm not black.
i just can make up an example for how I would react in a similar hypothetical situation in which i would be represented in my own community as someone of latin-american descent.

That's how empathy works. It's kind of stupid and unintuitive when you think really hard about it.

I think, bottomline, the discussion with these cases go back again to that old discussion if art has a place in politics.

“snowflake sensitivity”
“what does being white have to do with anything fuck off bro : ( how dare you bring up race, in this thread of all places : ( annoying how so much rap is political these days : ( there are certain subjects and words I cannot bear to have brought up, you fucking snowflake”

imagine saying ”snowflake” seriously. jesus.

“snowflake sensitivity”
“what does being white have to do with anything fuck off bro : ( how dare you bring up race, in this thread of all places : ( annoying how so much rap is political these days : ( there are certain subjects and words I cannot bear to have brought up, you fucking snowflake”

as bitchy as re-joining the same server that kicks you out for being over-emotional

love ya chuck but facts are facts

We are hitting sub zero levels of self awareness here folks

"
as bitchy as re-joining the same server that kicks you out for being over-emotional

love ya chuck but facts are facts"


what?

and dont make passive aggressive remarks not even contributing to the conversation for two hours and then say you love me go fuck yourself

if youre referring to the time grif kicked me from sputtalk and i rejoined A) everyone knows it was one of grifs daily PMS episodes B) i only came back because people asked me to C) the next time grif had his period and kicked me i never came back (despite being invited again)


sooooooo what is your point exactly

my point is you're secretly a snowflake even tho you're cool

and it's been more than 5 times since you've been kicked and rejoined

no i didnt and when was the last time i was in that server? october?

how old are you again and why do you care so much about a discord chat server

and you mean as passive as COPYING THE SAME STRUCTURE OF A JOKE???

passive or lacking any creativity pick one

your emotional reactions to what i was saying early in this convo without even talking to you is the definition of snowflake, back to your virtue signalling circlejerk on discord

LOVE YOU THOUGH

Gay

damn chuck u went THERE my FEELINGS are RUFFLED

much love u snowflake

So, how 'bout that Gambino track

It sucks but some people think it’s good

The definition of snowflake is a flake of snow, especially a feathery ice crystal, typically displaying delicate sixfold symmetry. That sounds nothing like this conversation. Get your head out of your ass

lmfao

ugh

Interesting thread

Indeed.

Interesting thread [2]

359 comments!?

Fuck yeah I'm gonna read this whole thread.

let me know how many uses of "snowflake" pop up

Finally got around to this; song's okay, fairly catchy but really nothing too special. Video was definitely well composed and well shot, but I'm not seeing what the massive hype about this is. This exact concept feels like it's been done a million times before, especially in the last six years.

That was not worth it nobody named a white boi killed by po po now I feel I've wasted my time.

is this a good place for me to say something political?

Yes.

ban fully automatic doors, like the ones in super markets

Excuse me, but my super market has apple and banana stocks
#protectthefruitamendment

thread is a sonic bukkake storm

Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.

Ya'll need to shut the fuck up.

lol makes enough sense to me right

white ppl love knowing it all

Dude, dont jump in on this. I dont need a lackey

fuck you i hate black people fuck

This song is pretty much Eminem's last album in a nutshell, except this is at least tolerable and not whiny.

Shut the fuck up. You seriously continue to say the dumbest shit possible, which is fucking astounding to me.

Pit, you continue to be a hypocritical, cynical asswipe with a superiority complex on literally every post you make but you don't see me telling you to shut the fuck up.

oh wait you're being serious? lmao suck my dick

i have ass cancer

Race Population (2016 est.) Share of total population
Total 318,558,162 100%
One race 308,805,215 96.9%
White 233,657,078 73.3%
Black or African American 40,241,818 12.6%
American Indian and Alaska Native 2,597,817 0.8%
Asian 16,614,625 5.2%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 560,021 0.2%
Other races 15,133,856 4.8%
Two or more races 9,752,947 3.1%
White and Black or African American 2,525,509 0.8%
White and American Indian and Alaska Native 1,884,407 0.6%
White and Asian 1,956,740 0.6%
Black or African American and American Indian and Alaska Native 318,302 0.1%

A rapper made a song and Pit's getting ass tickled about people having debates because... they're debating; shocking level of cognitive dissonance from Sputnik's resident kakistocracy supporter. Literally Pit, take the plug out of your ass for five seconds and have a fucking glass of scotch.

How am I being hypocritical? Everything you have ever posted in this site has no merit whatsoever. Your music taste is dhit, your views on the world are somewhat childish and uninformed, and your music is literally the most pathetic attempt at artistry I've ever heard. Your whole existence is a giant dumpster fire just begging someone to come over and piss on it to put it out, but not even the lowest of the low find value in eating urine on your sad little existence.

You're being hypocritical because your insults range from (oh you've made only a few good things) to (everything you make is terrible), if you're going to lambaste my existence at least be original and consistent with the shit that spews out of your arrogant mouth. The only reason you jump on my shit so harshly is because of the fact that for some reason whatever's going on in that oxygen derived noggin of yours causes you to literally get triggered the second anyone shows any sort of passion in their craft, quality high or not. Seriously, drink some fucking scotch and sit back down before you pull your back out, dick.

I dont mind honest, intelligent debate, Snide, but when someone tries to speak for a race or a people they're not necessarily a part of, I find that utterly ridiculous.

I've never said anything you did was any good, so what in the fuck are you even on? And who's triggered? All I did was tell you to shut the fuck up, ya fuckinf dunce.

This is 12.6% of America after all

Sputnik is like .00001%

The debating in here has literally been mostly acceptable, I have no idea why you're getting upset. Yeah debating from the perspective of another race is kinda stupid, but they have the right to do so.

"So what, you made three good songs? That's not an achievement"
- Pit 2017

I never said they didn't have the right to, but that also gives me the right to call it insulting and ignorant.

Omg snide, that was sarcasm. Are you fucking serious? Hahahahahahahaha

I don't get how trying to see things from another person's perspective is insulting and ignorant, arbitration has been widely supported in most forms of debating for years now.

>calling it sarcasm when at the time you were serious about it
k bb

The fact that you actually went searching for it is the funniest, most pathetic thing I've seen you do in a while. Thank you for the unintentional laugh.

You mean take two seconds to click open a link to a list? Yeah totally pathetic, coming from the king of damage control over here.

Seeing it from someone else's perspective and speaking for them are two VERY different things.

aiight pit suck dick from the back and log off

Yeah, it is, because you remembered exactly where to find it

Most of this thread has been trying to see it from another perspective; speaking for them is like when the internet got asshurt when that girl wore a chinese dress to prom and various Chinese citizens sent in overwhelming support for the girl who wore the dress.

It's pathetic that I remembered a list about my own music? Damn dude, you must hate a lot of shit.

Glad to see a new debate has been sparked. I'll have fun reading this again tomorrow at work.

Huh? No, not at all. Read the most recent version of Sach's comments here. That's not seeing this through someone else's eyes. That's pretending to know what it's like to be that person and then speaking for that person. Big fucking difference, dude.

I'm assuming Sach's account is 110, but I don't really see the issue with some of his comments. Childish Gambino has admitted he's not from the background that a lot of African Americans who would relate to this song in that way are from, so by Gambino's own statements I feel that Sach has every point to use that as a discussion point.

Honestly the thread has been pretty civil surprisingly.

honestly was just jumping in without reading cause white bashing is my fav past time, but ngl snide kinda got a point there

HoNkIeS aRe ThE wOrSt.

real reason I like this song is because is reminds me of ween !!

song is great honestly, not mind fuckingly amazing, but great, and bino is an incredibly entertaining dude

Another rap track that makes you think it's about something important, than proceeds to spew nonsense for 3 verses that barely rhymes. Album will be a 2/5 for sure.

if you go into the track looking for barrrrrrrz you'll be disappointed, but I highly doubt that's the purpose of the track

idk what's going on here

Lol just watched the snl live version of this haha holy shit this song sucks

i got ur back snide

oh boy the comment section on the album review is going to be a fucking battlefield of retardation YESSS

I predict a 5.0 review and a 1.0 review on the day of release.

Well we know sowing will write the 5.0 review

"Really liked both the video and the song. This is coming from someone who has not been sold on Gambino so far"

So coming from an ignorant dumb fuck then, gotcha

i predict a freddiedelaney 4.5 review before any of that happens.

"Another rap track that makes you think it's about something important, than proceeds to spew nonsense for 3 verses that barely rhymes. Album will be a 2/5 for sure."

Your ability to handle critical thinking is astounding. You are a 2/5 for sure.

I predict most of the comments will be comments on the commentary.

This video is like a dog whistle for ignorami.

Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-Americans because he's not "African-American" enough.Oh look. A bunch of non African-Americans speaking for African-americans stating that this African-American artist shouldn't be speaking for African-

How am I being hypocritical? Everything you have ever posted in this site has no merit whatsoever. Your music taste is dhit, your views on the world are somewhat childish and uninformed, and your music is literally the most pathetic attempt at artistry I've ever heard. Your whole existence is a giant dumpster fire just begging someone to come over and piss on it to put it out, but not even the lowest of the low find value in eating urine on your sad little existence.

Don't act guitarted chuck

i gotta shit on the shitty ppl bro, that is my role, i am the sacrificial lamb in order to maintain order in chaos, i am the jesus

regardless what you think of snide he would never talk to someone like that, absolutely pathetic

"regardless what you think of snide he would never talk to someone like that, absolutely pathetic"

His two previous comments before the one you quoted from pit there weren't exactly polite and friendly (I know pit initiated it but Snide's no angel here either is all)

meh he was reacting to pits mindless yelling

did u guise kno...

B LACK PEOPLE

gunsgunsguns yawwwwwwwwn

everyone in this thread can get aids fr

that would include you though

"gunsgunsguns yawwwwwwwwn"

ikr you'd think people would calm down now that kids have to carry clear backpacks to school

sinternet already has aids so it's no skin off his chin

"ikr you'd think people would calm down now that kids have to carry clear backpacks to school"

well they wanted government to step in soooo it is a solution no?

the key is they aren't tackling the root cause of these shootings. people who all have mental health problems, have been described as being emotionally unstable and could be seen as actually going through with a mass shooting.

"well they wanted government to step in soooo it is a solution no?"

It gives the impression that the government gives a shit and is doing something. As far as it being an actual solution though, no. It isn't even a bad solution, it just isn't a solution at all tbh. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to live in a country that calls itself first world yet feels it needs to force it's young students to walk around like this for their "safety".

I agree with the second part of your comment but that isn't being done. And I think most people who advocate stricter gun control would also agree that mental health services are severely lacking. If they could address that and improvements happened, then maybe the gun control crowd would quiet down but until something is done the argument is going to keep getting brought up. Personally, as a Canadian, I like walking around feeling comfortable that people around me aren't packing that kind of lethal power but I know we seem to feel differently on that issue.

you have to recognize their options for practical "solutions" are limited though, especially something immediate

also you me and mo are all canadian ftr also you cant be sure that people around you arent packing heat here or anywhere

"Personally, as a Canadian, I like walking around feeling comfortable that people around me aren't packing that kind of lethal power but I know we seem to feel differently on that issue."

Canada is very safe indeed. so the idea of guns isn't at the forefront of our minds. but we're what, 10% of the population of the US? cities are more dense and crowded in the US, so by default you have more chances of running into someone who could cause you harm.

I believe a human has the right to want to survive an attack from someone by any means necessary. if that means a gun on their person then so be it if it stops someone trying to harmd them. I guarantee you if you got mugged by a group of people and almost beat to death you'd probably want to carry a gun from then on

" I guarantee you if you got mugged by a group of people and almost beat to death you'd probably want to carry a gun from then on"

I won't say that I wouldn't since I've never been in that situation but as an outsider looking in though the way I see it is you still walked away from this. Throw guns into the equation and escalate the situation and you might not have.

I think if your society didn't already have an insane amount of guns in circulation then control would be viable, however there are so many guns and gun owners in the Unites States at this point that you might as well carry one yourself, in the US any kind of robbery or mugging is probably going to involve being on the receiving end of a gun, where in Canada that is far less likely, I am assuming, I don't know the numbers.
I think the only way to make any ground in decreasing gun violence is in improving mental health treatment and education at this point.

"I think the only way to make any ground in decreasing gun violence is in improving mental health treatment and education at this point."

100%

a mass shooting has never been committed by an NRA member. people who own, are trained and practice with their gun are CRAZY about gun safety. so it's hilarious when people point to them as being child killers and that they don't care about life lol. it's such an ass backwards mentality and kneejerk mentality. it's funny how those kids they touted in front of the cameras are all but gone now, talk about 15 minutes.

what you need to do is ID people who have openly said they will commit a shooting and stop them before it happens. trying to take the guns out of tens of millions of law abiding americans will NEVER happen, there will be a civil war before that happens, because just as gmork said, the number of guns is super high

Don’t take guns away from everyone because there are some crazy assholes. I wish I had a gun when I got mugged. It probably wouldn’t haven’t happened and I would still have my wallet and I wouldn’t have gotten my ass kicked so thoroughly.

hot damn troy did you age like 50 years or something

Teaching gun ed like we teach sex Ed would go a long way

"I wish I had a gun when I got mugged. It probably wouldn’t haven’t happened and I would still have my wallet and I wouldn’t have gotten my ass kicked so thoroughly."

Prob woulda got your ass shot instead

as an outsider to the situation, i think gun control will come as a result of a better education and mental health treatment. Give it a generation of well educated citizens to grow up with knowledge and information to take responsable decisions and you'll see gun control come up naturaly.

I know it sounds very optimistic, but demanding gun control NOW, over and over seems head-strong and futile.

okay anyone saying bino doesn't have the "right" to talk about gun violence is an asshole. Anyone should be able to speak on gun violence, period.

edit: just imagine a villain seeing new gun control laws and saying, "Rats! my illegal gun plans have been FOILED! gotta turn these in." banning guns takes them out of the hands of law abiding citizens, not the other way around. Education > Control

My personal theory on mass shooters:

If you listen to any self improve people or inspirational stuff you always hear about how you have to invest 10,000 hours in order to "master" something. Whether it's paino, chess, archery, coding, you put in the time, you'll become good at it.

Similarly psychologists have found that many times mass shooters, serial killers, people who commit violent and terrible crimes spend many years mentally thinking about, planning on battling the moral arguments of their evil thoughts before they finally commit their first crime. I've seen enough fucked up specials on serial killers and mass shooters (oh the dark places you go when you go down a youtube rabbit hole) and the most common thing is that almost all contemplate and plan extensively their first crime, almost all break and cannot bring themselves to do it numerous times, and not until they've planned it extensively and not gone through with it numerous times do they finally commit the act.

I think with the internet, reddit, forums, unlimited literature and info on these topics it enables those who are really mentally screwed in the head nearly unlimited resources to put in their "10,000" hours of fucked up thoughts until they reach the breaking point and sometimes encouragement from others to move forward and commit their heinous acts.

Think about it, 50 years ago you could only get as much info as your local library and local tv on certain screwed up topics, and even then in a small town, unless you had a small group of similar friends you only had yourself to think and ponder your fucked up thoughts. With the internet now not only can people truly persue their fucked up fantasies, but many times they can immediatelly find others and build a support group of liked minded people.

I think in the past only a select few people had the time, attention to detail and mental erosion to truly commit heinous crimes, and now I think that barrier to market entry has dwindled dramatically. In the past you only had a handful of books, your own thoughts, and you feared being ostricised for ever sharing your creepy fantasies. Now there are subreddits and entire collective groups solely for exploring fucked up ideas and encouraging one another.

Eh I know I droned but that's really my 2 cents on the matter, I think people consciously have to ponder certain terrible ideas long enough before they have the fortitude to go through with it, and now with technology and internet people can fantasize and invest more time then ever into hypothetically committing terrible acts and have a group of supporters there to cheer them on.