very bad

Bwahaha what happened to the lead singer??

Holy Shit, these guys really took a huge step back.

this album was a huge mistake after the actually enjoyable New Demons

Lmao this is their best album yet and it's not even CLOSE.
Seriously everything else they've done sounds like middle-school scenecore shit compared to this.

I've heard worse from this band. Still don't want to listen to an albums worth of this.

I thought this was the best song of the new album lol

Band is trash. They're even worse live.

the singer looks like a gay boy now

'now'

New Demons was the pinnacle for this band. Too bad they got rid of the harsh vocals/cleans. Great potential wasted.

gotta admire a band that consistently finds new ways to be fucking terrible

The breakbeat bit is brilliant

Bad song aside, pretty quality video

First two albums are trash, third is meh/bad, and New Demons is alright. I'll check this out at some point

so yeah this song is bad and boring but holy shit video production values batman

Music video is one of the best shot videos I've ever seen.
Album still slays.

Album is great. Video better than sing here

Local terrible band continues to be terrible

I find it weird that an album with a 3.4 ("great") average where most of the votes were 4's has this much of a negative reception tbh.

It's probably a bunch of alts

PSA: This song does not accurately represent the rest of this record. Nothing crazy, but their best yet IMO.

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To be fair New Demons was alright, but yeah everything else this band has released has been trash.

Most of the comments are just butthurt that their softer, newer sound is better than New Demons.

its like 100 times worse than new demons idk what you are smokin bud

I mean I have them rated the same but Treehouse is notably better and much less cringey.

new album was one of the biggest snoozefests of the year

Treehouse actually utilized the clean vocals properly, and they actually understood how to write a melody on that album.
Realistically New Demons had fantastic production going for it, but not much else. It wasn't anywhere as cohesive, or entertaining as Treehouse

treehouse wasn't entertaining at all and the clean vocals have always been the absolute worst thing about this band

The cleans and the electronics are the best thing about this band though.

the electronics are great and fun, the cleans are abysmal, like sleeping with sirens level abysmal

"New I See Stars video" "A horse takes a shit" Same amount of relevance. Seriously, it's so bad. It's so cotton candy-like and sugary and boring. Like every single chord progression is in 10,000 other dime a dozen pop songs.

>Implying Sleeping with Sirens has abysmal cleans

Their production values are sick. Nice to have $$$.

sleeping with sirens has the worst vocals fucking ever besides shitty bands like a7x and bvb and botdf and all the usual other stuff

Sounds like you're listing Snide's 5's.

I don't have any BOTDF 5'd.
In fact, I don't have any BOTDF higher than a 3.

Both this and Sleeping with Sirens have god awful cleans.

SWS cleans fit okay on their first two albums, but the band as a whole including kellin became trash afterwards.

it really just depends if you're into the whole warped tour post-hardcore thing or not

The third SWS album was shit but I thought they came back decently with the newest one. I'm actually surprised it's a 2.2 avg, I'd expect like 2.8 or something.