Good song, good album.

Good, not much more.

wtf they didnt approve mine cause i didnt put the track name bullshit this thread sucks

Waiting until the whole album comes out.

fuck the establishment man

I really liked this album. I could have done without some of the spoken-word stuff, but otherwise it was pretty cool.

I thought the flutes were annoying, but otherwise it was good. I like the more fast-paced melodic approach he took with this.

An ode to his ancestral homeland... Kentucky. m/

I don't usually even notice shit like this but the clean electric guitar sounds out of tune through most of this. Also, the outro (esp. after the banjo part) is fucking amazing.

Giving this a listen now, hope it's good... the concept behind this album just sounds awesome.

Track is titled 'Bodies under the falls' not over

And its pretty awesome

this is not good at all

awesome song.

Can't stop laughing at the flutes.

"Waiting until the whole album comes out." [2]

Not a fan.

still not quite sure why some people don't like it. this is really not meant in a confrontational way or anything, but what exactly do people find wrong with it? I personally think this track is just as good as anything from Disservices, if not a bit better.

I feel like the whole album will probably a little better than the last one, but still not that great. I've been pretty disappointed with the stuff he's been doing with Panopticon as of late.

@ignimbrite

a) the hick concept is terrible
b) the instrumentation is poor. the riffs, the drums, and the banjos all project different moods - is this projection of nature supposed to be overwhelming (riff)? sparse (banjos)? aggressive (drums)?
c) using varying chord sections doesn't help if you dont have b) covered - it makes the idea even less defined
d) the banjo is like literally stupid
e) the cover art is retarded. what is the old man doing there - doing a spaceboy from ME3? its stupid and it makes the music feel corny

Can't stop laughing at the flutes.

no dammit noctus not you too, fuck am I the only one who really digs this

would be into it if it weren't for that fucking flute

bits without the flute I can dig

I think it would be best if Lundr just took a break between writing so he could freshen up on some of his ideas. Social Disservices is a beast and he at least took a bit of time between that and On the Subject of Mortality.

Iowa > Kentucky!!!

What was that i just heard??? Balkan cowboy vlack metal????

Track is titled 'Bodies under the falls' not over

I liked it too but I understand the complaints about the flutes. They came across as a bit over-bearing and annoying to me, but outside of that the song was pretty good.

i dont even know what to think of this, all i know is the intro is really awful

yeah in you guys' defence i only listened to 2 minutes before i decided this was stupid and turned it
off

Everything about this song is pretty great.

Sucks that the middle is basically a not-as-good version of the end of Death of Baldr.

oh so it did get better after like 5 minutes? i really didnt see it going anywhere

tho a death of baldur for an album titled Kentucky sounds stupid anw

Flutes were...interesting, slightly overbearing but I still liked it. I would also be more inclined to take Flam's opinion if he picked an adjective other than "stupid."

the hick concept is terrible

But the riffs are good.

@vesper yeah, i guess their anti establishment sentiment was always there - just never expected them to completely embrace Kentucky

@captain thats only half true - a half-good track is still half-bad - and generally bm songs dont have too much variation in that sense, a lot of songs tend to repeat the rhythm of the introduction in form or in mood,

i mean right off my head the only song that doesnt really do that in that sense is BAN and their first melodic song in TWWTG, and the part thats good is hardly bm

besides captain we're talking about a band who's capable of putting out legendary introductions (death of baldur)

yeah, i guess their anti establishment sentiment was always there - just never expected them to completely embrace Kentucky

also his drumming is bad

no

"Why not? Austin Lunn - both of them (Jesus Christ, ugh, did they find each other on Facebook?) - lives there."

because its stupid thats why - and their residence is not an excuse to make stupid albums. bands like portal might as well start writing about kangaroos and call it /primal/

to be fair i really loved death of baldur, particularly the intro - it really set the anti-establishment mood well, and was followed up by killer music that really made the whole thing inspirational

To be fair, Portal making an album about kangaroos would probably shit all over anything Panopticon will ever do, regardless of relation to Kentucky.

Eh, I guess we can just disagree on that. I hate the intro for the reason you love it, haha.
I just don't think trite observations on how fucked up the US has been is terribly 'anti-establishment', since any fool can see that.

But the riffs on his past albums.....I could care less about what he talks about.

Agreed, Karl.

I must say, I really hope Portal makes an album about kangaroos, now.

I could care less about what he talks about.

Dang

this thread makes me feel dumb

oh well, the track is decent enough

not as trite if youre not american!

I don't really see how not being American changes your ability to judge shallow intellectual engagement (that is, our differing expectations of political agenda in music shouldn't have anything to do with our nationalities), but okay. I can't really convince you not to feel compelled by Panopticon's social commentary, so whatever, haha.

Are you a Korean national or what? I think I saw you mention going to the Agalloch show in Chicago, so I was under the impression you have, at least, lived in the US for some time.

its not as trite for us because a) their anti establishment concept in death of baldur is distinctly american and b) we dont feel so strongly anti-establishment because the establishment sucks in nz anyway

im korean, grew up in new zealand for practically all of my life, been studying at an american university near chicago since last year. so yeah, nearly one year here i guess

Yeah, that's understandable - the less exposure you get to this kind of rhetoric, the less trite it seems. I hear this kind of shit all the time, so Panopticon's not saying anything new or interesting, as far as I'm concerned.
I'd think that you would feel pretty strongly 'anti-establishment', though, if the opening of 'Death of Baldr' resonated so strongly with you that you'd go as far as to call it 'legendary'.

Ah, I see, cool. I've only been to Chicago once (to see Agalloch last year, incidentally), and I never want to be that cold again.

no its only legendary because the music is such a compelling representation of the idea, not because I already hold that idea

yeah the wind really sucks shit, but this is comfortably the best city I've ever seen - and I've travelled a bit too

best track of the year so far, you guys don't really have good taste do you

ItsOnlyWords

@sif - 'Legendary' still seems like an overly strong adjective, even in that case, but, again, you find the song compelling while I don't, so whatever, haha.
Eh, I still like NYC the best in the US so far, but Chicago's got Kuma's Corner, at least. Should eat there if you haven't yet.

best track of the year so far, you guys don't really have good taste do you

best track of the year so far

haha dont be fussy, i was merely stating how unusually good it was for a bm track in that sense

when i went to manhattan it was raining and full of mexicans shoving umbrellas at me, so it wasn't really a pretty sight - which then became contrasted to the open roads and artsy buildings in chicago in my head. this opinion seems to be a personal one though - most people prefer nyc in general i think

still super bad :]

How you call this super bad. I mean I can accept average but really guys and girls listen to yourselves. This a good track for what it is.

This a good track for what it is.

Your overly high music standards shall be the death of you. The decree has been passed.

So you do care?

I see that now hahahaha! But seriously, Lundr gets off the hook with this one cuz his riffs/ song structures are really all I listen to anyways. I think some of his samples, especially the one that opens up Collapse is fitting for the concept but I totally see where your coming from with trite messages and what not. It's like it became a Canadian pass time to bash Bush after 911 (almost trendy to hate on Bush) when all along, he was a fucking retard to begin with. It's almost like "Yeah, I've heard that a million times, why even dive so shallow into subject matter when everyones heard it before?"

Your overly high music standards shall be the death of you. The decree has been passed.

Nah, I think I will just take Vesper's word on this one.

I must say, I really hope Portal makes an album about kangaroos, now.

Or wait.....they could talk about a Kangaroo going through a portal? This is another point I wanted to make. If you can't decipher the lyrics than who gives a flying fuck about them anyways.

Yeah I trust Vespers word as well

I only trust Vesper's word when it comes to metal and Ulver but yea

Your overly high music standards shall be the death of you.

Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡

yeahh!! [:

You have nothing on my upside down exclamation marks

Or wait.....they could talk about a Kangaroo going through a portal? This is another point I wanted to make. If you can't decipher the lyrics than who gives a flying fuck about them anyways.

I only trust Vesper's word when it comes to metal and Ulver but yea

m/