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Rage Against the Machine
Renegades


2.5
average

Review

by metallicaman8 USER (65 Reviews)
August 16th, 2006 | 30 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist


Rage Against The Machine
Renegades


The Band: Zack De La Rocha- vocals
Tom Morello- guitar
Tim Commerford- bass
Brad Wilk- Drums

As many of you in the Sputnik community are already aware of, I recently took a trip to the great boot-shaped yonder (Italy). I was rather surprised while I was there, that I actually got a chance to pick up a couple CDs and at a cheaper price than they would be in Canada. Here’s what I picked up: Rage Against The Machine- Renegades (clearly), Iron Maiden- Powerslave, Megadeth- Rust In Peace and some opera CD they were selling at a restaurant while I was on tour. You know which one I was the least satisfied with? I’m betting a most of you just said to yourselves “the opera one”. Well, if you did say that, you’d be wrong. I believe I’ve mentioned before that I’m sort of a closet case classical music lover, so the opera was great. This is the CD that I was most dissatisfied with, which I found sort of strange because I’m usually really big on cover albums. I love to see bands covering other bands material because I like to them trying to improve upon it, or to see how close they can come to at least duplicating the music. For example, I’m a big fan of Metallica’s “Garage Inc” (who knew?). This album on the other hand not so much. I think this may due to the contrast between Rage Against The Machine and the bands who wrote the songs they were covering. Now, to be honest I haven’t heard the original versions of all of these songs, but I do know that there’s one written by Bob Dylan and another by The Rolling Stones. Now, RATM are often hailed as one of the most creative bands of the nineties due to the innovative rapping of Zach De La Rocha and “The Guitar Wizard” Tom Morello’s FX orientated solos. Yes, they are an undeniably unique band, but they covered songs by not so unique artists. That’s what I didn’t really like this album. Rage tried to adapt the songs to their unique style, instead of vice versa, which is what they should’ve done. Don’t get me wrong I love to hear bands take a different approach to a song, but in this case it just didn’t seem to work. Pretty much everything seemed off. In most other albums Zack’s vocals really made the album, in this album they seemed to be an entirely negative aspect. Probably because Zack really can’t sing, he can just rap and I seriously doubt any of the original versions of those songs were rapped. There was actually on ballad on this album. Beautiful World, this tracks rather slow pace made it impossible for Zack to rap. So, guess what he had to do? Sing, and it wasn’t pretty. That track also has extremely repetitive, generic instrumentals making it probably the worst song on the album. Tom Morello also didn’t really seem to do too great of a job. He just didn’t seem into it. Tom loves to experiment and I think having songs just laid out for him to learn may have discouraged him some. He did however manage to throw a few of his trademark FX loaded, feedback full (in a good way) solos into the mix. Although, they were nowhere near up to par with his solos from other albums. Overall, I think a big part of the problem may have been song selection. They should’ve picked some more guitar oriented songs for Tom, a few with more active bass as it appeared Tim Commerford didn’t do too much in this album. He had a couple of standout riffs, but they weren’t very well written. Instead of picking songs based on that, they just picked songs with a rebellious, angst message.

Regardless of the fact that the songs on this album weren’t written by RATM this album still has a similar overall feel to the rest of their albums. Most likely because of the song selection (and the fact that they adapted the songs to sound like them). Anyways, I guess the best word to describe the overall feel would have to be disgruntled. Almost every track is some sort of cry out against the establishment, or about how it’s time for a rebellion. Things along those lines. To be honest I don’t really mind these this message, it’s just that at this point in RATM’s career it’s getting kind of old. I’m not sure if Zack had a rough childhood in poverty or something, or he’s just an angst individual. Whichever, it appears that he can’t sing about anything other than rebellion. Even when doing a cover album. Again, I don’t mind this, but at this point it makes the band seem like sort of a one trick pony. Anywho, this isn’t really an album most people would want to listen to everyday. Unless you’re the rebellious type. Me, not so much. If you’re like me you may enjoy this. You just may not want to listen to it all the way through. I would mix it up with pop-punk. I said I ‘would’ because I don’t like this album, so I doubt I’ll ever listen to it again. Some of the tracks are good if you need to get pumped up for something, though. Take for example Kick Out The Jams. Listen to that and you’ll be seriously motivated for some ass kicking. Aside from being rebellious this album has a depressing hint to it as well. I think this was because Zack’s vocals were a tad softer on this album and the a lot of the words to the songs were kind of depressing. On RATM’s other albums their own vocals were a tad depressing, as well. But, in those albums Zack seemed more fired up. Thanks to him being all fired up the were a lot of songs that could be classified “head bangers” and it’s hard to be depressed and head bang at the same time. This album had few head banging tracks, so it seemed tad more disheartening, which it also makes it harder to listen to, too often.

Tom Morello just didn’t really seem to make a presence in this album. There was a noticeable shortage of solos and the solos that there were lacked length. Also, most of them seemed the same, while solos on their other albums had more diversity. Take for example the solos from Killing In The Name and Take The Power Back from there self titled album. Yes, I am aware that these are all cover songs, so Morello couldn’t really throw any massive solos in there and make them fit, but that doen’t change the fact that his guitar work was lacking. Tom just wasn’t meant to do a cover album. Although, I can’t help but admit there was some good rhythm guitar work by Tom. Although, he didn’t write it, his playing was good and I liked the tone on his amp. He just didn’t seem to have the passion that he usually has, though. Let me give you an example. Listen to the power chord progression in the verse to Renegades Of Funk. It’s potentially a rockin’ progression, but Tom just doesn’t get into it enough, so it just seems average. As does just about everything else about this album.

As I mentioned earlier the band could’ve chose some more bass oriented tracks for Commerford’s sake. The only times he really got to shine were in the intro to I’m Housin’ and the last few moments of Kick Out The Jams. Other than that Tim seemed entirely detached from this album. I noticed him playing root notes of what the guitar was playing, rather than write his own stuff more than usual. Although, that is difficult to avoid when playing other bands material. He actually did have a few other good riffs I didn’t pay homage to, but they’re difficult to here. A lot of his bass playing is difficult to hear, actually. It annoys me when I have to concentrate to hear the bass lines. I did however, enjoy the tone on his amp. I always have. It really helps contribute to RATM’s funky sound. He also kept great rhythm throughout, but that’s not that hard to do. It’s more expected than anything else.

Pros: Select amounts of good instrumentation

Cons: Zack
Lots of mediocre instrumental work (I know they didn’t right they songs, but meh)
Track Selection

Overall Rating: 2.5/5



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Comments:Add a Comment 
metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, so I re-wrote it. My bad on the mix-up ealier today.

francesfarmer
August 16th 2006


1477 Comments


You do know that this is an original Rage album, right?

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Clever. No really that was funny.



/not being sarcastic

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

There was a mix up with this ealier today. I reviewed this entirely unaware that it was a cover album. Then was informed it was a cover album. Had my review deleted. This is a re-submition. He was trying to screw with my head.

francesfarmer
August 16th 2006


1477 Comments


*molasses-like wit*This Message Edited On 08.16.06

Bron-Yr-Aur
August 16th 2006


4405 Comments


The wit in this thread flows like molasses.

Good review.

Frances thinks he's funny.This Message Edited On 08.16.06

Red Cap Brain
August 16th 2006


174 Comments


How is it possible to delete reviews?

Oddsen
August 16th 2006


1127 Comments


Fine review. I've heard street fighting man off this. It sounds different to me. Too different. They shouldn't have changed these songs sou much.

Red Cap Brain
August 16th 2006


174 Comments


Thank you man.

Thor
August 16th 2006


10354 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This is RATM's worst album, but I don't think you're giving it enough credit.

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I think I gave it all the credit it deserves, but that's me. I can see how some people (like yourself) might like this, but for me it was just average.

Thor
August 16th 2006


10354 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I like it because I'm a RATM fanboy!

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Haha, that's okay. Everybody's a fanboy for at least one band. In my case Metallica.

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, Zack does bring some songs down, though he brings just as many up IMO. But that's me. Plus I'ma not a fanboy for the band, but I am for Tom Morello.

Bron-Yr-Aur
August 16th 2006


4405 Comments


But anyways, I've just never gotten the apeeal of ratm. They're all decent musicians (morrello obviously moreso), but...I don't know. I guess Zach brings it down that much for me.


My biggest problem with Rage is their songwriting skills. I've only heard two albums, but the formula for those seem to be write four good songs, and eight mediocre ones.

francesfarmer
August 16th 2006


1477 Comments


Their formula is actually very good. Organized, which is ironic but anyway its amazing. Like a slew of successful jam sessions. Because, for the most part their songs are very simplistic when it comes to Morello and their bassist.

Stoo
August 16th 2006


34 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

How can you say this is a bad cover album?



The 4 band members picked songs from artists that inspired them to record for this album.



All the music is original, and by that I mean, Written by RATM... only the lyrics are taken from the original songs.



In this way, it is a very different kind of cover album, much more inresting and creative than Garage Inc. (opinion of course)



I hate when I hear bands doing covers EXACTLY the same as the original. That's the kind of thing you do when you've just started learning the guitar and want to jam with friends...



Bands should either do what Rage did... or not do covers at all.



/Rage Fanboy.





[QUOTE=The Review]Instead of picking songs based on that, they just picked songs with a rebellious, angst message.

[/QUOTE]

That's my point, it wasn't entirely about making an awesome guitar record, the songs were chosen because of there, lyrics, meaning, message... whatever. Personal favourites of the band.This Message Edited On 08.16.06

metallicaman8
August 16th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Eh, you make a valid point. Although, I disagree with it.



EDIT: baeten to the post ftlThis Message Edited On 08.16.06

superfascist
August 16th 2006


119 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Although, I can’t help but admit there was some good rhythm guitar work by Tom. Although, he didn’t write it, his playing was good and I liked the tone on his amp.


Tom did write a lot of his own stuff, and he rearranged some of the songs completely. Examples are: "Beautiful World", originally by Devo, and much more upbeat than what's on Renegades; "How I Could Just Kill a Man", originally by Cypress Hill, and very lacking any guitar at all; "Street Fighting Man", originally by the Rolling Stones, the cover of which sounds nothing at all like the original; "Maggie's Farm", originally by Bob Dylan, which also, much like the Rolling Stones cover, sounds nothing like the original.



Good review overall though. This one is way better than the other one for this album, even if I don't really agree with your opinion of it very much at all.

ChrisAdlerisGod
August 16th 2006


474 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Worst RATM album. Why did they do a cover album anyway. They could have just some of these songs on thier older albums.



Whatever, I like How I Could Just Kill a Man but the original is much better, same with Kick Out The Jams.



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