Elder (USA-MA)
Innate Passage


3.0
good

Review

by pennyroyal22 USER (1 Reviews)
December 3rd, 2022 | 7 replies


Release Date: 2022 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Where has the fun gone? (Nowhere -- it was left behind.)

I'll say it -- the departing from the band of drummer Matt Couto was a huge loss for Elder. Georg Edert seems to be a competent drummer, technically, calmly navigating sometimes esoteric time signatures and rhythmic pulses with aplomb -- however, he is much more prone towards getting 'locked in' to a certain rhythmic cadence that does not fulfill the potential of the rest of the band's jaunty, explosive playing, especially compared to Couto's frenetic, scrappy, more fun style.

There are times where Edert's more laid-back, minimalist-ish approach does work to great effect -- I think of the final home stretch of Catarasis here, where his almost stubborn refusal to deviate from his rhythmic pocket does accentuate the track's dreamy climax, or the opening of Merged In Dreams - Ne Plus Ultra, where (again) his minimalistic tendencies are to the benefit of the tracks spacious atmosphere. But then are tracks where Edert's snare placement is just plain off, robbing the songs of a certain kind of momentum where it needs it most. (For this I'd refer the reader to 'Endless Return', where the uneven snare placements -- while artsy and strange, sure, I think gel with the guitars like oil with water.) Or tracks where Edert simply On top of which, Edert's drumkit seems to have basically two cymbals -- hi-hit and crash/splash -- and it can start to sound very one-note after awhile.

Gone are the playful pyrotechnics of 'Lore' or 'Blind', where Couto would tastefully lock in to the furious, fuzz-laden bursts of power strumming, only to ease off and provide a groove-surfing foundation for the guitar and basswork to really shine -- Edert seems dead-set on dragging the proceedings here into rather average doldrums.

Which is an absolute ***ing shame, as the guitar and basswork here is possibly the best Elder's ever put on display. I would kill to hear what Couto would have done to interplay some of the sweep-picking fireworks achieved on the title track. Nick DiSalvo's vocal work is the strongest it's ever been, and finally achieves what his experiment on 'Omens' had been striving for -- the vocal melodies are no longer relegated to the background, a la the early part of Elder's output, instead providing purposeful choral throughlines for the rest of the soundscape when present, and their absence lending more instrumental passages all the more dramatic power, without the obtrusiveness caused by the production style 'Omens' employed.

I was really hoping 'Omens' was the sound of Egert still getting 'up to speed' with the band and their style, and that for their next album he'd dial in his choices more tightly to the band's precise ebb and flow. Alas, it was not meant to be. Just like 'Omens' this album is not without merit, it simply scarcely meets the potential of the core songwriting.


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insomniac15
Staff Reviewer
December 3rd 2022


6169 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

I agree with the fact that former drummer helped the songs with that extra punch. The new drummer is much better and technical, but Couto pounded those drums and made things fun. Still, if they were releasing the same stuff or playing the same way, I think the records would have become a lot less interesting. Couto didn't have the technique for the proggy stuff they've been moving towards.



So yeah, pros and cons.

Joellipopelli
December 3rd 2022


9 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I honestly think Couto, while a good drummer, was always the least interesting aspect of Elder.

Georg Edert is not just a much better fit for proggy Elder, but I genuinely love his work on this and Omens.

Absolutely cannot follow your criticism at all...especially what you call "uneven snare placements" on Endless Return.

pennyroyal22
December 3rd 2022


97 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Funny you say that Joelli because I think he was pretty underrated and his drumming style brought a lot of fun and swagger to the fold. Like I said Edert is obviously (at least) competent but Couto has a lot more expressiveness and dynamicism. To my ear Edert has a tendency of smoothing things over and missing important flourishes that the rest of the band does that would sound more engaging if he locked in a bit more on those passages.



Re: the Endless Return criticism it's mostly in the 'chorus' that I have the most umbrage, and while the rest of the track's drumming isn't as frustrating to my ear, I do find it also pretty milquetoast.



Insomniac15 -- any examples of where Couto was demonstrably less technically proficient that Edert? In my opinion I haven't heard Edert write anything that Couto couldn't, or even vice-versa, but Couto's style in my opinion was simply much more conducive to what made Elder as a band feel especially vital and exciting before. He did a lot accentuate where the guitar was going, whereas Edert just seems much more glossy and independent, like he's off doing his own thing.

insomniac15
Staff Reviewer
December 3rd 2022


6169 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

The way Edert plays, especially on this album, the main grooves, it sounds more settled and careful with diversified accents, that kind of small detail. Couto favored more direct rock drumming, but it's also the fact that there was a more doom stoner approach overall until Reflections. Some parts just worked better with pounding drums.



So, it might be more the circumstance, maybe if Couto came back and played on Innate Passage for example, he might have had a different approach too, who knows.

Mad.
December 7th 2022


4912 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Agreed with a lot of your points here and probably the rating, can't believe people neg this just because they don't agree lol. Band never quite captured the same magic after Lore - I think they became too self-consciously focused on being more "prog" and as a result the songs flowed less naturally and became kind of contrived in feeling. There's a lot of clutter in each song going on here holding the album and the finer moments back.

kkarron
December 7th 2022


1354 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

oh no, you've enraged the neckbeard proglords!



pos'd

pennyroyal22
December 11th 2022


97 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Meh it's fine. I didn't post my opinion to have it agreed with by everyone. And I had a couple typos and errors that I think warrant rating it 'Not well-written' as understandable.



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