Scary Kids Scaring Kids
Out Of Light


2.0
poor

Review

by STIGMATIZED USER (20 Reviews)
May 29th, 2022 | 60 replies


Release Date: 2022 | Tracklist

Review Summary: "Would you agree that this album is far from all right? (It falls below the line! It falls below the standards!)"

Reunion and comeback albums have always been hard for music artists; having to come back out of nowhere to a fanbase who have likely cemented a certain image and expectation out of you can make them hard to please when coming up with something new. But for the post-hardcore band Scary Kids Scaring Kids, this task is even harder, fifteen years after their last album in 2007 and eight years after the death of their vocalist Tyson Stevens in 2014 (R.I.P.). But on the surface, it would have seemed like the band had reunited in memory of their fallen comrade in 2019 originating out of a pretty good tribute single to him, titled “Loved Forever”, and the band seemed to further suggest this with the announcement of a new album, Out Of Light, featuring a cycle of solo singers and the vocalists from metalcore/post-hardcore bands such as Bad Omens, Saosin and Ice Nine Kills on every track of the twelve song album, seemingly in the vein of the Snot (tribute) album Strait Up….but have you noticed I’m using the word “seemed” a lot?

Unfortunately, the execution of the suggested concept in Out Of Light is, for the most part, poor, and results in Scary Kids Scaring Kids compromising everything they used to be musically in order to fit in with the mainstream, and in turn sounding like complete garbage by losing their Saosin-Thrice-Chemical Romance crossover identity that made them a special band in the first place. The reason Strait Up, compared to this album, was enjoyable was simply the fact that the album felt like everybody involved was uniting under one banner in tribute of a fallen hero (Lynn Strait: R.I.P.) and didn't compromise their sound (as in, just because Serj Tankian appeared on Snot’s Strait Up didn’t mean that the rest of the band started playing System of a Down-style riffs); on the other hand, Out Of Light barely appears to acknowledge the band’s past. Out Of Light isn’t post-hardcore or emo; instead, the album roots itself in the “electro-metal(core)” sound, complete with heavy use of BMTH-ism’s* and electronic effects, in what appears to be an attempt to accommodate the vocalists of the album, instead of doing what they do best. The aforementioned “electro-metal(core)” production is easily the album’s biggest gripe; while Scary Kids Scaring Kids used keyboards/keytar and some effects with their earlier recordings, here they feel excessively forced/plastered onto every nook and cranny of the music, and pushes both the guitars and keyboards(!) down the mix; the keyboards do exist, but at times they are so quiet and thin that they’re barely audible below the effects or distinguishable they used to be. The keyboards on After Dark EP and The City Sleeps were, admittedly, a little obnoxious at times; but nowhere near as obnoxious as the effects on this record. Look; I'm not trying to say digital production is bad; but it is so poorly used here. I understand an argument exists that “It’s been fifteen years! They aren’t going to be the same band!” and that the sonic departure and production is being used for “experimentation”; but, if this album shows anything, experimentation is not necessarily going to always bring positive results, and here it harms the album significantly. Heck, even "Loved Forever" had better production than this entire 47-minute dredge of an album.

There is nothing innately wrong with the band’s musicianship on Out Of Light- there are various moments throughout which show the band still has the ability to throw in a little technical solo here and there, and the album’s greatest strength are its choruses on songs like “Black Hole” and “Knock It All Down”. However, just like “First Class” by Jack Harlow, a good hook/chorus doesn’t mean the rest of the song, or in this case the album, is; the song writing is easily the worst to come from the band, with a few positive glimmers in between. The deadest track of the entire album, the offensively boring “New Morning”, is the closest this album gets to pop music, and sounds closely related to “Watch Me Bleed” (from the band’s self-titled record), albeit instead of feeling emotionally raw and vulnerable like the aforementioned song, it feels artificial and over-produced and over-stuffed. It also contains another crime, which is featuring Saosin’s Cove Rober on this song; he wasn’t an amazing singer, but the sparse arrangement makes his flaws more obvious. Other songs up for particular criticism are “The Dark”, which has perhaps the most underwhelming choruses of all time- you expect it to explode into action, but instead doesn’t go anywhere, and leaves you disappointed, and Ice Nine Kill’s Spencer Charnas’ song (“Nightmare”), which is missing/lacking in Charnas’ versatile range and charisma, and feels too simplistic for Charnas’ horror persona (if you’ve hear INK’s amazing “Hip to be Scared”, you already know what I mean). Another sucky song is “Omens” with Spencer Chamberlain, and the music is barely in key with Chamberlain (like it's horrifying out of key). Scary Kids Scaring Kids were able to get the point or atmosphere of a song across without using too many effects and were able to generate their gothic-emo vibe in their music organically; the effects and production come off as a crutch for the band, and when attempting to force a “scary” mood, like in “Nightmare”, it comes off as forced and cliche-cringy horror. Like, even “Degenerates” was more haunting off-the-bat than this song, with less effort. The band’s best moments are when they don’t force any mood on the listener and work a nice combo between the old and new formulas, most notably on “Black Hole”, which is the closest you’ll get musically to the old Scary Kids Scaring Kids.

If Scary Kids Scaring Kids released the album’s four best songs (To The Unknown, Knock It All Down, Black Hole, Endlessly Yours) as an EP and/or under a different name, this release could have probably gotten a 3/5 at best; because honestly it's not horrifyingly bad like many, many other albums. But there’s so much noticeable filler in the album that it begins to drag, and combined with the use of good vocalists in bad songs, ultimately makes this album an exceptional disappointment for old fans and will ultimately fail to attract new fans to the band (like it’s trying to). As mentioned earlier, instead of the band making a combination between the band’s known sound the featured vocalists as a tribute to the band’s legacy, they dilute themselves into digitized simplicity; and to the best of my knowledge Scary Kids Scaring Kids isn't supposed to be a simple band. The fact the music isn't even that great, combined with the fact that the SKSK band name is used after his death with no contributions from Tyson Stevens, feels out of touch with their past and tramples on the band’s legacy; for the most part, there's little to no nostalgia generated, and the entire album just comes off as a cash grab designed to try and attract a new fanbase. But I'll tell you and the band now; it won’t. Out Of Light misses the mark so badly in trying to compromise, that all players involved are creatively diluted, even the singers of the bands you’re (possibly) trying to attract the fanbase's attention of- meaning, you (the band) failed at achieving your objective. In the end, this album will most likely be written off as a bad/boring reunion album that will be remembered briefly, and then subsequently forgotten and dismissed by their original fanbase, echoing a similar fate to Uncanney Valley by The Dismemberment Plan** or the post-Jim Morrison output of The Doors. Which is unfortunate, as it could have been good; it could have been something special, it could have had real potential; but never could show.

I really hate to be emotional now, but I don’t understand how tone-deaf the band appears to be of their own legacy and of their past, and it sort of hurts. I really expected more.

2/5
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Find the album here: https://velocity.lnk.to/outoflight

* Bring Me The Horizon isn’t a bad band; actually, they’re a great creative force. But, the subsequent worship by rock bands of their That's The Spirit/amo musical formula while contributing/doing nothing to make it cooler/unique, is the gripe I’m talking about here.
** I hope you get the reference at the end of the review



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STIGMATIZED
May 29th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

500 views 30/5/22

1000 views 1/6/22 yayyyy first one

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More than anything else, this album proves how much Tyson Stevens carried the band throughout their existence. I sorta wished they would have done something with the songs they were doing for that shelved RCA album than have made this. Also what a massive letdown from their s/t in 2007, christ almighty.

It sucks when you have barely listened to a band in years, come back to them and then realise they suck.

When I listened to “the dark” for the first time, I verbally spoke “the fuck? Are you serious?”



P.S. for those who hate the rest of “First Class” (aka anything but the hook); here's a version with just the hook:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptLUX6vOOk



And honestly, please just stop using the name, or rename yourselves something like “Skeletons of Scary Kids” (a la “Vapours of Morphine”, with the ex-members of Morphine); using the exact same name when you’re not the same band is basically offending and trampling over your own legacy. i wouldnt have thought a band would have been so self-destructive, intentionally or not.



Tentative review titles: Scary Kids Scaring Fans Away, Out of Originality/Ideas, How not to do a tribute album: 2022 edition, Strait DOWN, "Out of the spotlight, desperate for attention", A severe lack of self awareness, You’re So Last 2007



BAD SONGS: Nightmare, The Dark, New Morning, I Wanna Know (offensively boring), Escape From My Reality (christ, mod sun), Omens

EH/BORING SONGS: Until You Come Back, For Atlas

GOOD SONGS: To The Unknown, Knock It All Down, Black Hole, Endlessly Yours

GmemberKills
May 30th 2022


4320 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Good review. The idea of Scary Kids without Tyson seemed like a bad idea, but i thought "Loved Forever" showed enough promise that they might could actually make something work.



This just didn't pan out at all though, and your review pretty much echoes most of my thoughts. I will say I absolutely love Black Hole and it reminds a lot of something off the self-titled album. Its a good example of what could've happened if they didn't try to shape the sound of these songs around the guest vocalist and stuck to what they knew how to do best.



also a small correction but Omens has Spencer Chamberlain from Underoath not Spencer Charnas

STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

fuck



Mistake is fixed thanks

pizzamachine
May 30th 2022


27122 Comments


First paragraph is good instant pos

STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

never mind the album, I'm actually happy knowing I'm getting better at writing reviews

Storm In A Teacup
May 30th 2022


45706 Comments


Ouch

onionbubs
May 30th 2022


20725 Comments


i only checked tracks 5-9 and thought knock it all down, black hole and i wanna know were pretty good, altho i wanted to like i wanna know more since jesse is capable of much better. the cove and spencer songs sucked tho and i have no interest in jamming the rest of this

STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I mean I'm gonna follow some of these featured vocalists now anyway because I actually found some of them to be pretty interesting ones to follow. But I doubt that was the band's intentions

Get Low
May 30th 2022


14205 Comments


heard this was their best

STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

cite your sources. now.

Get Low
May 30th 2022


14205 Comments


Get Low
May 30th 2022


12379 Comments
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heard this was their best


STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

citationception



in all honesty id like to hear people defend this album

Get Low
May 30th 2022


14205 Comments


im sure some poor soul will eventually saunter in here to defend

STIGMATIZED
May 30th 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

id offer a box of tissues afterwards

Fearlessflyer1986
May 31st 2022


229 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

When I heard the first single, I didn't really enjoy it, but it wasn't so bad for me to dismiss this album. But after hearing the second and third, I knew it was in route to be a gigantic stinker, but it also made me a bit mad.

The fact that they could release something so detached from what they used to be and show no tribute to Tyson whatsoever is beyond unacceptable. Nothing here reflects what they used to be, and trying to cash in on that just leaves a really nasty taste in my mouth.



Fuck this album. It does not exist.





Krpa
May 31st 2022


306 Comments


I've listened to like 5, 6 tracks off this, they were all really boring. Sometimes even the guest vocalists seemed uninterested.

STIGMATIZED
May 31st 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Honestly I have no clue why SKSK thought releasing nightmare and escape from my reality apart from wanting clout. honestly makes my blood boil because they're both two of the worst songs here.

why couldnt they release stuff they knew old fans may have wanted? because in terms of singles that wasn't really offered

notagenius
May 31st 2022


1258 Comments


Even so, I would still like to listen to it.

STIGMATIZED
May 31st 2022


363 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

personally: i'd probably revisit the good stuff at some point. again i wasn't dismissing the entire record but ehhhh it bothers me and leaves a bad taste when adding context



i'm not stopping anyone though

notagenius
May 31st 2022


1258 Comments


oh

I think this's a good review. It helps me lower my expectation, but still want to hear their new songs with the sentiment of the past.



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