Billy Talent
Billy Talent III


1.5
very poor

Review

by Simon STAFF
July 12th, 2015 | 25 replies


Release Date: 2009 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Billy Talent III shows a band full of ambitious change, but end up almost entirely losing a sound that made them exciting.

As the years roll on, they can change people, bands – the music they create. Billy Talent are a Punk band from Mississauga, Canada. Their first two albums created a sound that was a cut from the rest: blending hard-hitting, heavy, groove riffs that brought a sharp Punk edge to their sound. The band drew a wide range of fans that like Metal, Rock and Punk and their eclectic sound has always had an accessible feel to it; catchy hooks are littered in every Billy Talent song, similar to what Nirvana always managed to create, but the band had a defined sound and never overstepped the mark into “pop” friendly territory.

Billy Talent III is the bands first step over that line, almost completely losing its Punk grit and replacing it with smooth Rock melodies and generic solos. The albums opener “Devil on my Shoulders” shows a much slower tempo from the band than what we’re normally accustomed to, with a larger focus on sing-along anthems, than adrenaline injected party songs. “Rusted from the Rain” shows an even slower side to the band and attempts to incorporate an epic texture to the bands sonic pallet, which is mildly enjoyable, but a far cry from previous material.

The biggest problems lie in the music itself though. It’s not that the actual songs are bad; its hindrances fall on just how bland and forgettable the riffs are. Ben’s vocal attempts at creating an even more accessible Billy Talent are crushed under the weight of lacklustre riffs. Always appreciated Ian’s quick, fluid and energetic style on songs like “Devil in the Midnight Mass” and “Cut the Curtains”? You won’t find any of that on here. The same applies to the rhythm section, which has previously been a joy to listen to. But the band seem to have lost their sense of direction when making this album; and in trying to push the band into an optimistically new path, ended up replacing their signature energy and interesting style for a bland and boring sound.

The album suffers from dull song-writing, mostly failed attempts at an epic tone and Ben’s vocals aren’t anything to write home about; however, the album does occasionally show signs of what they were trying to do: “Saint Veronika” is musically interesting, showing some nice rhythms and a good blend of the old Billy Talent sound, with just the right amount of elements from the new direction; while “Tears into Wine”, “Pocketful of Dreams” and “White Sparrow” show a fair amount of the old sound and promise to this LP, but the solos feel tacked on and boring, while Ben’s cringe-induced, emo lyrics strip any potential enjoyment and take away more than the songs offer. While songs like “The Dead Can't Testify” and “Sudden Movements” are so mind-numbingly boring they barely justify as songs, rather excellent sleeping material.

It’s a shame to see, but Billy talent III is a huge misfire. They manage to exclude all the major qualities that made the band so great, and replace them with things that make the band sound generic, contrived and boring. It might draw in a new wave of fans, but will most certainly alienate fans of previous works.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Thought a review in a different genre was a welcome change after all my metal releated reviews.



As always, constructive criticism is welcome guys.

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Mort.
Contributing Reviewer
July 12th 2015


14566 Comments


Posd, good review

I think nerd (pheromone) really used to like this band or does still a bit im not sure im pretty hungover

Anyway im not a fan

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DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

"nerd (pheromone)" is he/she a user?



Cheers Mort. This still sucks after all these years.

Sabrutin
July 12th 2015


6456 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Pos'd, well written review but I had the sureness of you being out of your mind when you said The Dead Can't Testify is boring. Only point I agree with is Sudden Movements, easily the worst track for me. I find this to be far better than Dead Silence, and as a complete listen the only album that can touch it is II. White Sparrows is fantastic.

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Cheers Sabrutin. Sorry man, it sucks haha. Anything past II is abysmal in comparison, though I think Dead Silence is marginally better than this.

Sabrutin
July 12th 2015


6456 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm curious to see what they'll do next, Dead Silence was a bummer but it had a few great tracks (Cure for the Enemy espcecially).

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

To be honest, I hope they don't bother. lol

Archelirion
July 12th 2015


5870 Comments


Holy crap, something you don't like :o Very neat review, only thing that irks me is the capitalisation of genres but I think that's just something I don't personally like doing. Have a pos.

KrazyKris
July 12th 2015


2749 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Good review. Still think the album isn't that crappy, though it definitely doesn't look too good compared to BT I and II. But all in all Devil On My Shoulder, Saint Veronika and Tears Into Wine are still some of their best songs.

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Cheers chaps.



I think capitalizing genre titles is a moot point really, but I think it needs it, personally. ha



Saint Veronika is okay musically, but I think the lyrics are horrible on it.

gnrcdstrtdpwrchrd
July 12th 2015


108 Comments


this album's not that terrible...

Ocean of Noise
July 12th 2015


10724 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I think this album is somewhat unfairly hated tbh. Diamond on a Landmine is one of my favourite Billy Talent tunes.

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Mort.
Contributing Reviewer
July 12th 2015


14566 Comments




""nerd (pheromone)" is he/she a user?



Cheers Mort. This still sucks after all these years."

Yes user Pheromone. And no problem


Apollo
July 12th 2015


10680 Comments


correct rating

I've always hated this band

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

First two albums slay though dude.

KrazyKris
July 12th 2015


2749 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

They do for sure



Ever listened to Watoosh, Gonzo?

Snake.
July 12th 2015


21805 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

i'm starting to get the feeling that apollo likes almost no band from canada

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
July 12th 2015


15725 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

I haven't kris. Been meaning to check it out about 10 year ago and still haven't got round to doing it haha! Worth a spin?

Pheromone
July 12th 2015


7329 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

ight mort

never really got the difference between this and their first two.

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KrazyKris
July 12th 2015


2749 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Gonzo, I personally found it to be terribly uneven and not really thought through. Has not much to do with their early BT sound, rather some strange mash-up of typical 90s alt rock (a little bit grungy) and ska-punk. D'Sa is pretty much as good as he always is, but that's it. M&M is the only really worthwhile track for me.



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