Echosmith
Talking Dreams


3.0
good

Review

by scottpilgrim10 USER (13 Reviews)
October 18th, 2014 | 39 replies


Release Date: 2013 | Tracklist

Review Summary: "I'm in love, love"

When you discover a relatively unknown band and watch them skyrocket into mainstream popularity, it’s as if you're watching your very own child taking his or her first steps. That may be an outlandish statement, but that’s the kind of overwhelming satisfaction I feel when I get updates on Echosmith’s progress. While I’ve never particularly loved the band, it’s still nice to feel like part of a cool group or community, and that’s the sort of resounding positivity that Echosmith’s fanbase radiates. Their debut album entitled Talking Dreams is harmless generic pop fun, but it was my harmless generic pop fun. It doesn’t necessarily try to be deep and it doesn’t have to be, but man oh man there some embarrassing teenage diary lyrical material on this album. Talking Dreams is an enjoyable enough debut with some pleasant vocal harmonies and catchy guitar hooks, but the cliched lyrics can not be overlooked.

In general the album is filled with upbeat guitar and baselines, but at the same time there’s a little bit of melancholy in Echosmith’s sound, which is undoubtedly the Joy Division influence shaping this young band’s sound. Echosmith is made up of family members: Sydney Sierota (Vocals), Jamie Sierota (Guitar), Noah Sierota (Bass), and Graham Sierota (Drums), and their father (who is a producer/composer) who played 80’s essentials like Joy Division and U2 really influenced the kind of music Echosmith plays, which is generally safe 80’s pop music. While they are normally characterized as some sort of rock band, they are the furthest thing from that. As a drummer Graham is competent, but that’s the closest thing to a compliment I would give him. Jamie’s jangly and hook centered guitar lines are very clean and polished like the rest of the album, and its calm sound is very soothing. Talking Dream’s soft and spacey atmosphere is entrancing, and is without a doubt the best aspect of the album.

The second time I saw Echosmith live I was sitting down with my friend, and Sydney walked right by us. Immediately a fan stopped her to tell her how fantastic the performance was, and that Sydney reminded her vocally of Hayley Williams. I scoff at the very thought. Hayley Williams is a powerhouse singer, and Sydney couldn’t even dream of matching her raw talent. On Talking Dreams she sings the choruses well, but nothing is impressive about her voice. I enjoy her voice, but I wouldn’t compare her to any of the great female vocalists of rock music. Her brothers backing vocals add a nice male/female vocal dynamic, but their singing is nothing to write home about either. The lyrics overall are insipid, but harmless. There’s definitely some cheese on the album like “you make a girl go ohhh ohhh”, but what sort of lyrical genius am I suppose to expect from a bunch of teenagers, and half of them are younger than me. I’m only 18, and this band makes me feel old. The song everyone knows by Echosmith entitled “Cool Kids” has a message that I can’t stand in the slightest. ”I wish that I could be like the cool kids, ‘Cause all the cool kids, the seem to fit in.” It’s a song that panders the lower common denominator, and it seems to go against individuality, which makes sense considering how many of the songs on Talking Dreams sounds like another song on Talking Dreams.

Here comes the schmaltzy part. Even with all these faults I can’t help but to like Echosmith. There’s an undeniable charm and likeability that has been present ever since I saw them in the summer of 2013. I’ve talked to them multiple times, and they’re very down to earth and nice people. I actually believe that the messages they convey in their music are genuine, no matter how cliched and redundant they may seem. Thier live concerts, also never disappoint. You can just tell when they’re on stage that they are having the time of their young lives, and seeming them transition from the Ernie Ball stage of Warped Tour to a full on headlining tour with television appearances on Conan and now Ellen is just incredible. There are some genuinely great songs on Talking Dreams like the slow building and dreamy song entitled “Surround You” or the poppy anthemic “Come Together”, which should have been their breakout single. Overall Talking Dreams is a clumsily written pop album with a few chilled jams. Just make sure when you fall head over heels for an up and coming band that you actually love their music. Echosmith has their heart in the right place with Talking Dreams, but the cheesy songwriting ultimately destroys all hopes of musical greatness.



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scottpilgrim10
October 18th 2014


4750 Comments


The most hardcore Echosmith review you'll ever read.

This band is a pretty personal one to me, so I tried a different sort of reviewing style, so feed back is definitely appreciated.

Here's a picture of me with the band:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/467206754611113985/uDpE6eHu.jpeg

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
October 18th 2014


10678 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Nice review, very well written.



However I disagree with some of your points. Firstly the line about scoffing at the Hayley William's comparison is strange. The comparison is highly warranted. They sound a hell of a lot alike. Echosmith's singer is very good, and although not super high ranged, she exhibits a fittingly laid back vibe for an album that is also very laid back. I'm also not sure a line like that is fitting for a review.



Secondly your qualm with the "Cool Kids" lyrics seems to be for the wrong reasons. You seem to be taking them literally, while I believe them to not be so literal. It's more along the lines of speaking for those kids that aren't popular and just want to fit in but they can't, and not what you said and literally telling people to just be like the cool kids and be run of the mill. There's just no way the band is trying to say that.



Still a good review and pos'd. I was actually considering doing a write up for this.



Lastly I would call this band indie pop.

scottpilgrim10
October 18th 2014


4750 Comments


Thanks Gameofmetal!

I just thought I'd include it since all female lead singers get compared to Hayley Williams now and it's one of my best memories from an Echosmith concert. I don't really hear the comparison, and it's not even really fair to judge to 2 because they make completely different music. But Sydney's range vocally is very limited and she could never pull off something like Still Into You. It might not be necessary for a reviewing purpose, but I thought I'd include it anyways.

I really can't stand Cool Kids lyrics, maybe I took it too literally, but that's how intrepret the lyrics. That's probably not what Echomsmith intended, but that's what I take away from them. I hate that Cool Kids is the song they're known for, Come Together should have been their big hit imo.

I was thinking about calling them indie pop, but indie is such a vague term so I decided not to use it. I never think of Echosmith, when somebody says indie music.

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
October 18th 2014


10678 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah I'm following ya. Regardless a solid job. Try and get over that lyrical thing, cuz I'm 100 percent sure they don't mean it that way and it is a very pleasant song. Come Together is sweet too

scottpilgrim10
October 18th 2014


4750 Comments


Alright, the music in Cool Kids is pretty nice either way.

Mutantsnowstorm
October 18th 2014


504 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I was at warped tour this year and they played, but I didn't see them. My friend suggested I should but I think I was watching watsky or someone else...I listened to them afterwards, remembered cool kids, and regretted not seeing them play.



Great review dude

Mutantsnowstorm
October 18th 2014


504 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Also, If were comparing her vocal styling, I would add that I picked up a bit of taylor swift in sydney's singing...mainly cause of "bright" though

scottpilgrim10
October 19th 2014


4750 Comments


Mutantsnowstorm thanks man!

I hate that everyone shits on Warped Tour, there are genuinely great bands on the lineup every year and for a festival the tickets are cheap as hell

I kinda see the Taylor Swift comparison.


R6Rider
October 19th 2014


5226 Comments


Damn, only a 3?

Wanna get this, but that rating..........

scottpilgrim10
October 19th 2014


4750 Comments


What rating were you expecting?

R6Rider
October 19th 2014


5226 Comments


idk I only listen to metal

scottpilgrim10
October 19th 2014


4750 Comments


And you want to check this out? I'm confused

R6Rider
October 19th 2014


5226 Comments


I like the single.

Certain pop songs really click with me. The problem I have is liking a whole album full of pop songs lol.

scottpilgrim10
October 19th 2014


4750 Comments


I mean if you like Cool Kids you'll probably enjoy the whole album. If you want to check out just the best tracks they are: Come Together, Safest Place (a recent favorite), and Surround You.

R6Rider
October 19th 2014


5226 Comments


Thank you. Will check.

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
October 19th 2014


10678 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

People that diss warped tour are just elitist assholes. It's not any different than other festival tours, a hot but good fucking time and bands you dig the shit out of. Makes for great goddamn memories.

scottpilgrim10
October 19th 2014


4750 Comments


Yeah Warped Tour is fun as hell, as long as a good band is playing. Some of my schedule conflicts this year were awful. I had to miss Yellowcard.

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
October 19th 2014


10678 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

This year I had a great schedule, although last year not so much. Biggest issue last year was that The Story So Far went on an hour early and I only caught the last song

HenchmanOfSanta
October 22nd 2014


1994 Comments


This band played my college and they fucking suck. Re: Cool Kids, when you take them ironically like the band intended, they're actually even worse. It's a bunch of teenagers in a signed, nationally touring band lamenting their status as outcasts.

Cygnatti
November 17th 2014


32948 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Cool Kids, when you take them ironically like the band intended, they're actually even worse. It's a bunch of teenagers in a signed, nationally touring band lamenting their status as outcasts.
were they a nationally touring band before and as that song was made? all things considered, i highly doubt it.



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