Trivium
Vengeance Falls


2.0
poor

Review

by Agingman USER (3 Reviews)
October 12th, 2013 | 11 replies


Release Date: 2013 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Trivium's attempt at making a mainstream album

Trivium have been around for a while now, with their debut, Ember to Inferno, in 2003. Albums like the Crusade and In Waves caused rifts within fans of the band and fans of the genre. The band have always stuck to their guns and tossed aside negative comments about their music but with their sixth effort has this good band just taken the mainstream way out to get as big as some of their idols?

From the start you get the feel that the albums are set on hooks rather than good song writing. In Trivium’s defence the hooks are generally well written but we have Bullet for My Valentine and a ton of other mainstream metal bands to deliver on that. Fans always expected great riffs from Trivium and 90% most people got what they wanted. But this, Vengeance Falls does not deliver anything close to what Trivium had going on Shogun or Crusade or even Ember to Inferno. So anyone who wants to listen to this and hear great riffs and solos, just don’t bother they’re not anywhere in sight. Which really is a pity because Trivium have shown us before that they have the skill to produce some really high quality tracks. In terms of solos, Corey has always been able deliver really stand out solos in almost all of Trivium tracks but that great streak has run out. There is only one song where I can say Corey shows off his good shredding side and that is on Villainy Thrives. Apart from that they all sound the sound with the same harmonies in each of them.

Now for vocals, firstly there are times when they are out of key. It isn’t to create tension with the song because this album is aimed for radio stations around the world so if they’re out of key, they’re out of key. You simply don’t sing out of key and put it on the album. Matt seems to be struggling through the album and you get the feeling that his vocals just don’t fit to what the rest of the band are doing. Even when it comes to the hooks, they could be improved and I honestly don’t think David Draiman has anything to do with it, simply speaking Matt really struggled with vocals on this album.

Lyrics are just as bad as the vocals on this album, there aren’t any songs with strong lyrical depth to them. They seem to go on from In Waves, which didn’t have the best lyrics but not the worst, but these are just down a level. Boring, overly board and very cliché. Even song titles are bad e.g. Wake (The End Is Nigh) kind of seems like they are trying to get the interest of horses.

The only star on this whole album is Nick (drums). He really manages to keep the strength in each of the songs or as much as he can with a poor performance by the other members. So credit to him, he didn’t save the album by any means, but you can’t expect one person to stop a sinking ship.

In Summary, this is an album aimed for radio airplay and to simply break into a more mainstream crowd. But they even failed creating a catchy album with poor vocals performance and lame guitar work on most songs.


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Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Some basic wording and grammar to watch hear.



In Summary,
--from the last paragraph.



In summary,*



e.g. Wake




Words are not hard, don't be afraid to flesh things out. For example, it's not really that hard to

type "for example:"



Tidy it up and this will be a nice enough review for your third. These are just two examples.



kind of seems like they are trying to get the interest of horses.




Also, what?

Agingman
October 12th 2013


4 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Cheers for that Ill repost a better version

Judio!
October 12th 2013


8496 Comments


"Trivium's attempt at making a mainstream album"

Weak summary, considering that every single Trivium album is mainstream. You should reword your summary to "The most mainstream Trivum album yet" or something like that.

Vakarian12
October 12th 2013


4091 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

yeah that summary is really silly

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Okay ignore the negs, the only way to improve is through feedback so here we go:



Trivium's attempt at making a mainstream album




A summary like this is obviously filled with a personal bias, but without the knowledge to fully comprehend the statement or to see just how your readers will translate such a statement. Trivium are widely accepted as a 'mainstream' act, with releases that are friendly enough to listen to without seeing a need to slump them in say a 48kbps recorded taped underground act. What I'm trying to say is Trivium (for the most part) is very listenable.



Trivium have been around for a while now, with their debut, Ember to Inferno, in 2003.




*Trivium have been around for a while now, debuting with Ember To Inferno back in 2003.



Albums like the Crusade and In Waves caused rifts within fans of the band and fans of the genre.




*There have been albums in the band's discography that have caused divided opinions among fans and critics, namely in the likes of In Waves and The Crusade.



Of course, this is yet another opinion that may not be shared by everyone, don't forget to back up your examples! You could mention the stylistic change of The Crusade with its completely clean vocals and Metallica mannerisms. Just one example.



The band have always stuck to their guns and tossed aside negative comments about their music




This is sort-of good. But again, back up your statements.



their sixth effort has this good band just taken the mainstream way out to get as big as some of their idols?




These kind of questions are 'neg' worthy. Your a reviewer stating your position/opinion on sounds/music/album/band et cetera. Expand, but without the questions. Try stating it, rather than asking stupid questions.



From the start you get the feel that the albums are set on hooks rather than good song writing.




Missing a word here? Check your phrasing/grammar too! For example this would read a whole lot better as: " From the start, you get the feeling that the album's tracks are set on hooks rather than quality song-writing."



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Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

In Trivium’s defence the hooks are generally well written but we have Bullet for My Valentine and a ton of other mainstream metal bands to deliver on that.




*defense



In Trivium's defense, the hooks are actually well written. But, we have countless acts already toting these lyrically catchy ideas.



Fans always expected great riffs from Trivium and 90% most people got what they wanted.




Sweeping statement, backed up by nothing.



But this, Vengeance Falls does not deliver anything close to what Trivium had going on Shogun or Crusade or even Ember to Inferno.




Read your review aloud, sentences like these make little to no sense as well as like I said before - provide examples and back yourself up! People are not going to take your opinion as is because of these one-liners.



So anyone who wants to listen to this and hear great riffs and solos, just don’t bother they’re not anywhere in sight. Which really is a pity because Trivium have shown us before that they have the skill to produce some really high quality tracks. In terms of solos, Corey has always been able deliver really stand out solos in almost all of Trivium tracks but that great streak has run out.




As above.



______________________________________Still going, more on next...



Snake.
October 12th 2013


25249 Comments


THAT. FUCKING. AVATAR.


HOLY SHIT

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

There is only one song where I can say Corey shows off his good shredding side...




Shredding side? Try "technical ability" Reference the band's past solos, add something that reinforces why you think Mr. Corey B. is such a bad-ass behind his instrument.



Apart from that they all sound the sound with the same harmonies in each of them.




Let's at least try to make some sense here.



Now for vocals, firstly there are times when they are out of key.




Okay, I'm going to bust your balls here. Vocals, either sung or screamed actually have a hard time being out of key. Especially considering the rock and metal genres don't have specifics. They either match the music... or don't. An operatic vocalist may be "out of key" but that usually has something to do with that specific style, the conductor and composer.



It isn’t to create tension with the song because this album is aimed for radio stations around the world so if they’re out of key, they’re out of key.




Reference the above and add the fact that most won't ever hear this on their local radio unless there's a niche for it.



Matt seems to be struggling through the album...




*Throughout the album...



How? Why? Are there any specific points where you feel this point can be related to your readers?



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Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

THAT. FUCKING. AVATAR.





HOLY SHIT





That for me?



Lyrics are just as bad as the vocals on this album,




The* lyrics...



there aren’t any songs with strong lyrical depth to them.




Provide examples for I disagree. The lyrics hear speak of devastation, betrayal, politics etc, which are pretty in depth topics ready to be expanded.





Boring, overly board and very cliché.




Cliche, yes. Overboard* and how?



Even song titles are bad e.g. Wake (The End Is Nigh) kind of seems like they are trying to get the interest of horses.




I asked this before -- What??



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Snake.
October 12th 2013


25249 Comments


No, for the reviewer.

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
October 12th 2013


18256 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The only star on this whole album is Nick (drums).




Change "star" to "highlight". Spread your sentences out, it gives flow. For example: The only

highlight to found on the record is the admirable work of Nick who handles the band's percussive

element.



You can remove the brackets and give a very readable sentence to readers.



So credit to him, he didn’t save the album by any means, but you can’t expect one person to

stop a sinking ship.




Vague metaphor that comes out of the blue. It would be better if your whole thesis was: "Trivium's

2013 record can be likened to a sinking ship".



this is an album aimed for radio airplay and to simply break into a more mainstream crowd.





Again, reference my previous statements.



But they even failed creating a catchy album with poor vocals performance and lame guitar

work on most songs.




Back yourself up, reiterate to your opinion. Make sure ALL your readers understand the WHY!



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Okay, that's a lot of dialogue but we all had to start from somewhere. Trust me, this was even done

to me. If it helps, you'll appreciate it in the long run. Keep writing, keep improving! : ]











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