Within the Ruins



by grindpantera USER (10 Reviews)
February 28th, 2013 | 7 replies

Release Date: 2013 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Within the Ruins take a one step forward/two steps back mentality with their signature “paint-by-numbers” approach to downtuned metalcore.

“Elite” Guitar Tuning: 6-string / G# D# G# C# F A#

On Within the Ruins’ debut album Creatures, a memorable guitar lead comes in at the end of the song Tractor Pull. Requiring lightning fast dexterity over the span of 7 frets, one can’t help but imagine the almost autistic-like mentality that is required to master guitar playing at this level.

It’s ultimately this “autistic-like” absent-minded quality that has continued to define (and ultimately limit) the potential of metal bands like Within the Ruins.

It has been no secret that the release for WTR’s “Elite” has seen several delays, with the release date originally being slated for Fall 2012. As is often the case in Hollywood, delayed releases usually speak to deeper problems, either with the product itself or the studio/label behind it.

The most frustrating thing about listening to Elite is in how much it sounds EXACTLY like Invade, considering the evolutionary leap in songwriting and creativity shown on WTR’s Omen EP.

"New Holy War," "Absolute Hell" and "Feeding Frenzy" feature some of the more memorable riffing, but honestly, ALL of the guitar gimmicks on Elite, from the Gojira/Danza-esque pick scrapes, to the Emmure “trademarked” Digitech Whammy Pedal pitchshifts coupled with immense (if predictable) breakdowns all fall flat due to an extremely lackluster production mix.

Overtly compressed/gated guitar tone and a completely inaudible bass take what is already tepid songwriting and render it even more 2-dimensional. Ultimately, each song plays out like an advanced level from Sonic the Hedgehog, careening into a sea of guitar leads with little regard for listener interest.

Vocalist Tim Goergen sounds endlessly lost in a myriad of songs that leave little room for dramatic interpretation. Guitarist Joe Cocchi does experiment with some odd delay/phaser effects on “I, Blaspheme” and “Weightless,” but by then it’s too little too late.

If WTR had strived to captured the raw energy of their live shows, the final product of Elite would have been all the better for it. Instead we’re treated to an overly produced, emasculated studio album that lacks low-end depth and rawness.

Within the Ruins could’ve been a genre-defying band, but in today’s market, where even the most youth-oriented bands like iwrestledabearonce and Veil of Maya have complex guitar leads . . . you need more to stand out from the pack than just technical chops (and breakdowns). Unfortunately, Within the Ruins have yet to have found their musical gambit.

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February 27th 2013


Album Rating: 3.0

So much talented goes to waste using mindless chugs.

February 27th 2013


Album Rating: 3.0

"Overtly compressed/gated guitar tone and a completely inaudible bass take what is already tepid songwriting and render it even more 2-dimensional."

The compressed guitar is their sound.

Inaudible bass - dude it's a metalcore record. You won't hear it on 95% of the rest of them either.

"Within the Ruins could’ve been a genre-defying band, but in today’s market, where even the most youth-oriented bands like iwrestledabearonce and Veil of Maya"

Sorry bro, neg.

Bad examples. Veil of Maya has been around forever, they aren't in their youth anymore. And IWABO doesn't have anything special about their leads.

February 27th 2013


I heard this yesterday. Not bad, but not great either.

February 28th 2013


Is just an average deathcore band with a lot of chugga chugga. I'm sure you will hate this.

February 28th 2013


You don't have a bad start to your review here, but add to it and form paragraphs instead of just 1-2 sentences and then a line break.

And why is the very first thing you mention the guitar tuning? This is something that should be detailed in the body of review somewhere.

February 28th 2013


Album Rating: 3.0

I figured alot of WTR fans (like myself) are guitarists, hence why I threw in the tuning since Joe gets asked that question the beginning of every show, haha!

"Youth-oriented" as in bands that appeal to the younger late teens-early 20s set, which Veil of Maya/IWABO definitely fit into. Within the Ruins have toured extensively with both bands in the past 2 years, hence the comparison. They're all of the same "scene" whether or not you care to acknowledge.

Compressed guitars and lack of bass are fine when the ONE guitarist you have can write awesome songs. Genghis Tron and Pig Destroyer have proven that point on several releases.

Now where exactly do Within the Ruins fit along this spectrum???

February 28th 2013


mehhh album

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