Further Seems Forever
How to Start a Fire


4.0
excellent

Review

by Chevy182 USER (10 Reviews)
May 26th, 2012 | 29 replies


Release Date: 2003 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Seems like further involved musicianship packed with lots of melody and edgy vocals.

Further Seems Forever had a niche of suffering line-up changes which affected them musically. After their first album, vocalist Chris Carrabba left the band to focus on his –once- project Dashboard Confessional. Subsequently Jason Gleason from –insert band name here- joined to holler and win and lastly there’s other album with ex-Sense Field’s front man Jon Bunch. And lets not disregard that guitarist Nick Dominguez left along with Carrabba and this other guy Derick Cordoba replaced him to take over guitar duties.

Singer changes are very noticeable, not only because of the voice itself but also songwriting. In this album, Mr. Gleason takes both a harder and softer (refined if you will) approach compared to his predecessor. There’s an urgent mood in the vocals which juxtapose close to perfect with, relatively, fiery guitar riffs. The title track bursts in without any introduction and probably is the only straightforward post-hardcore song. Although, they never scream, throughout the album the vocal ranges between delicate and high pitched vocals to strained shouting.

Afterward, How To Start a Fire channels musically a more consistent voyage. This album crosses between “harsh” soulful tracks (not exactly ballads) such as A Blank Page Empire or I Am which is arguably one of their best, and watered down mellifluous tracks like On Legendary and Insincerity as an Artform.
Against My Better Judgement starts sluggish but builds up to be more energetic and consistent than the others mentioned.

Part of their sound must be credited Steve Kleisath’s drumming technique. I believe he uses what in spanish is called “Contrapunto”, which means that there is a contrast in melody and timing of two instruments playing simultaneously; oh and also is worth mentioning he is a known professional poker player.
Anyway, that overall musical pattern contrasts with The Sound because rather than being complex, this basically ends up being a very catchy pop-punk song.

The lyrics are poetic in a Baroque-like style but often ambiguous; Pride War is very upbeat and is a personal favorite, is very short lyrically but it really doesn't make much sense if not related with Christian themes:
"You'd trade our starving eyes
For a tar and feathered heart
A 25 cent execution
To hear your anthem praises
Played on frequency decayed
A breath of frigid self-made winter."
And still, it seems as they are written in a very personal perspective but there appears to be some continuity within the songs.

The Deep is a decent song musically but is one of the best in the lyrical department. Again, I can only relate words like “You'll be a wolf devoured by a lion cause you look like a lamb but baptized in fire” with dark Christian imagery (is it an Oxymoron?).
Lastly there is Aurora Borealis which takes a whole different turn to finish the album. This song doesn't have drums nor dynamic guitar soloing, just scratches, sonic landscapes and both crooning and harsh vocals by Jason, closing the album interestingly enough.

So the end result is very artful as depicted in the album cover, and even if it is a little more fuming it has the same melodic level-headedness as in their other releases. Vocals are top-notch and instrumentally more vigorous than ever. If I had to recommend this band I would recommend this album along with FSF B-Sides with Gleason which are particularly the best.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
Chevy182
May 26th 2012


116 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

And really, check out Bjork's Pagan Poetry cover, There Now I've Said It which is the original version of Bleed, Gleason's version of Say It Ain't So and recently, I discovered a Christmas jazzy song Jason released at the time.

Skoop
January 9th 2013


2201 Comments


Nobody has commented on this.

Thats sad because this is a brilliant album

savaah
April 18th 2014


515 Comments


album rocked back in the day, need to re-listen

random
October 23rd 2016


3148 Comments


This album rules.

MetalMarcJK
August 15th 2018


1002 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Fantastic album! I love it! 4.25 out of 5

Source
November 8th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Sweet album

Ecnalzen
November 8th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Love the vocalist on this album. Still like to play several songs from this, especially Pride War.

Source
November 8th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Have you heard the moon is down

Ecnalzen
November 8th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

A little bit. Never been big a fan of Dashboard vocals so I prolly didn't give it much of a chance.



Really, out of all the vocalists they have had, I think the guy on this one was the best.

Source
November 8th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I'm not generally a carrabba fan either but that album is so good. And i actually think his vox suit it really well

Ecnalzen
November 8th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I will have to give it another go. It has been a looooonnng time since I have tried it.



I remember trying Moon and Hide after I got a hold of this and being really disappointed he wasn't in the band for either of them. Have to try them both out again one of these days.



Source
November 8th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Yeah this guy is good. I don't care much for the guy on hide nothing

Ecnalzen
November 10th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Tried a little bit of Moon again. I just can't get into it for whatever reason. Might give it another go here soon for one last try.



On a side note, I just got the album after this for a dollar at a used cd store. Hopefully it's got a couple worthwhile songs on it.

Source
November 10th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Carrabba's vocals are pretty whiney which I'm guessing is what you can't get into. I don't know why but I actually like them. I haven't listened to hide nothing in awhile but I remember not really liking it. It pretty much sounds like a different band

Ecnalzen
December 16th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah, he seems to be the reason I can't get into it.



Has this guy been in any other bands that you know of?

Source
December 16th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Not that i know of. I think I read somewhere that he's actually back with fsf now

Ecnalzen
December 16th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I have been doing me some internet research since I asked and I finally found something.



He was in a band called Affinity that was way heavier than this. It took a bit but I finally found a download. It's not too shabby.



Yeah, wikipedia says he rejoined in 2015.

Source
December 16th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

So they must have two vocalists now, since I think carrabba has also returned

Ecnalzen
December 16th 2018


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It did not mention anything about Carrabba leaving. I haven't heard anything about them since they did Penny Black, tho. Maybe they have just been playing shows.

Source
December 16th 2018


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I don't think I ever heard penny black



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