The Appleseed Cast
Two Conversations



by TheAppleseed USER (1 Reviews)
March 13th, 2010 | 15 replies

Release Date: 2003 | Tracklist

Review Summary: While Two Conversations was an odd turn by the band that managed to divide their fans and listeners, it is an album that any once heartbroken individual can easily learn to love.

To the more accustomed The Appleseed Cast listener it is a well known fact that the band has undergone a transformation through the span of their seven albums. Upon the release of the two volume LP records Low Level Owl I & II, fans found themselves confused at the sharp turn the band took away from their past Mineral-, Sunny Day Real Estate-ish-emowails of their debut album, to instead approaching the more post-rock oriented sound that they had hinted at in their subsequent album, Mare Vitalis. Little did it help the confusion when the band after that, again, took yet another sharp turn away from the instrumental, dreamy aesthetics of Low Level Owl and instead back in the direction they first came from, something which resulted in the more easy-listened and - to some fans - shallow Two Conversations.

Even in this apparent disorientation The Appleseed Cast never lost that mature and experimental vibe they toyed around with in Low Level Owl – it is still there (as we’ve indeed witnessed in the albums following this one). The post-rock was simply forced to take a few steps back into the blender, where End of the Ring Wars already had settled in comfortably, so that the band forcefully could hit BLEND and release, ventilate and cry out their frustrations of torn and withered relationships in the form of an album with a perfectly balanced mixture of emo and post-rock.

In terms of a break up concept album, Two Conversations does a miraculous job. The structure is perfect, featuring a story of a couple slipping away from each other, slowly – going from the root of the problems in the opener Hello Dearest Love (“welcome home/ her eyes know/ mistakes you've made/ the plans you laid”) to the struggle to keep the love alive in Fight Song (“We're finding fault/ When you kissed her/ Or you slept with him/ Or you didn't care”) and finally letting go of it all and moving on – with hope - played up beautifully in the wonderful two last tracks on the album (“Amazing how life can turn one day to the next you know./ I’ll figure out where I am and figure which way to go”). It is a journey that the listener easily can follow in both his heart as well as his ears, made stronger by the best lyrics the band has written to date, sung by Crisci’s ethereal, dreamy voice.

Technically, the album is far simpler than the Low Level Owls – a choice made perfectly, as any far too experimental touches would have made the album lose the heavy emotions it wanted to mediate. Two Conversations couldn’t have been composed any other way.

The drums are as “clinky-clonky”, intense and inventive as we had come to love in the previous albums, and Crisci does, as mentioned above, a very good performance as the narrator of this harsh and beautiful story. The guitar work is simple but experimental, not taking too much of the attention while still working through well-written harmonies toying with subtle arpeggios in a suitable non-intrusive background to the album’s concept.

While Two Conversations was an odd turn by the band that managed to divide their fans and listeners, it is an album that any once heartbroken individual can easily learn to love. It features a very complete track list with only a few weaker moments (Sinking comes to mind), and for the band it came to pave the path away from the emotional towards the later releases where the band once again found themselves flying with their Owls.

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March 13th 2010


written by The Appleseed... coincidence? I think not!

Just kidding, this is a decent first review, could you some work but I'm too drunk to tell you what that is. Keep it up.

March 14th 2010


cool choice for a first review... if I wasn't boycotting downloading new music at the moment I would listen to this right away as Appleseed is a band I've been meaning to hear

March 14th 2010


Album Rating: 4.5

Thank you. This is my first review on the site, and also my first review written in english. I apologize for the minor design flaws - but those should be edited now! Any criticism is very welcome though.

Very glad you liked it.

And, SeaAnemone - if you want to get into the band, I'd suggest listening to either this or Mare Vitalis.

March 14th 2010


Album Rating: 5.0

ridiculously good album. seeing these guys on 4/20, haha.

March 14th 2010


Album Rating: 4.5

-very- envious of that. They've been to sweden twice as far as I know, and I've managed to miss them both times.

June 18th 2011


Your perception of the "concept" of this record is a little off. The reason its entitled "Two Conversations" is because the music/lyrics capture two relationships, one a romantic one (which you eluded to) and another relationship, a relationship between a nation and its leader. The record was released in 2003, when after enjoying across the board popularity George W Bush saw his numbers plummet.

These two relationships, both exhibiting the exhilaration of newness, the pain of betrayal, the bitterness of the end, and the eventual recognition of separation.

This is by far the most complex of the ASC's records in terms of its scope. The lyrics hint at the "two conversations" bouncing back and forth to a love story and this other relationship. Its is a remarkable accomplishment.

"You're just bouncing on your strings, a puppet on a screen. I'm not sure when you left, but it started with that theft, it seems it's been so long."

February 16th 2012


sooo loving this. second half is near-perfection. might be their best album now. and i was convinced nothing could top peregrine

November 28th 2012


Album Rating: 4.0

One of my favorite albums at the moment. It flows so well

November 28th 2012


Album Rating: 4.0

Sweet album, sweet band. Good review man.

Staff Reviewer
November 28th 2012


Album Rating: 3.5

sweet band

November 28th 2012


Album Rating: 3.0


December 3rd 2012


Album Rating: 4.0

Been listening to this a lot lately, such a romantic album.

December 3rd 2012


I've actually never listened to this album. I'll have to get on that.

November 15th 2015


Album Rating: 4.0

a dream for us is prob the saddest song ever ok thx

November 7th 2018


Album slays for days, amazing band

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