Thrice
The Alchemy Index Vols. III & IV


4.5
superb

Review

by ScifiSaint USER (2 Reviews)
June 29th, 2008 | 19 replies


Release Date: 2008 | Tracklist

Review Summary: One of the best albums this year and of the past couple years. Though it has some faults they are minor and easily overlooked because of sheer magical moments throughout the entire collection of songs. A must listen for any fan of music.

When Thrice set out to record at guitarist Teppei Teranishi's house in Orange County, Dustin’s thoughts of “experimental EPs; more landscapes, nothing resembling a normal album or grouping of normal songs” had really begun. Dustin approached the rest of the band members with his concept after their tour supporting Vheissu at summers end back in 2006. A series of albums or volumes that represented the four classical elements of Fire, Water, Air and Earth respectively was the launching point. From the direction they were on after the release of Vheissu, it wasn’t surprising that they would all be on board for such a daunting challenge for this release. “Let’s give ourselves a new challenge and see if we can meet that challenge,” Riley said in regards to the start of the whole process. And if they were going to do it they were going to do it their way with no “outside” interference.

Embracing this new found freedom was guitarist Teppei who mixed, engineered and along with the rest of the band produced the entire project from the comfort of his own living room. To capture the soulful and grass roots vibe of the Earth disc the band implored just “two stereo mics” in the middle of Teppei’s living room that were never moved. For the Water disc they contributed predominately effect-drenched piano and drum loops with heavily processed vocals layered on top for a weightier and colder feel. Fire was approached with a heavier “riff based” mindset said Dustin, while Air was an amalgamation of all the EPs; more “traditional rock, bass and drum arrangements” Teppei noted.

Their maturity can easily be heard on these releases, from the recording and technical aspects to the arrangements and lyrics. The highlight of all four of the EPs would definitely be Dustin’s vocals and lyrics though. Here is the biggest evidence of a person growing before your very “ears.” The layers of complexity in every word he sings can be staggering at times when listening to songs such as “Child of Dust,” “Daedalus,” “Silver Wings” and “The Whaler.” Again, along with his vocals, he truly captures the “feelings” of each of these elements; whether it’s being in flight for the Air disc or burning something down to rebuild it again for the Fire disc. My own English professor was quite impressed by them when presented to her for a class project. In “Daedalus” he writes from the point of view of Icarus’ father and the pain of seeing ‘your own child or love one fail and or die’ trying to push or better themselves.

Now, I’ve read on other’s reviews where they complain about the last song on each disc being “too short.” I’ll explain something for people who may not know. Dustin set out to have an “element sonnet” on each disc; one that personifies a given element, in which that particular element gives a message to us about our failings. Here his writing shines with a great deal of complexity because he follows the English sonnet form of 14 lines in an iambic pentameter with an “a-b-a-b / c-d-c-d / e-f-e-f / g-g” rhyme scheme and a couplet at the end. To keep it a “sonnet” these guidelines needed to be followed and that’s why lines weren’t repeated for a chorus or what have you, so the songs remained short. The different timbres and vocal stylings presented to the listener throughout the four CDs is something to marvel. I believe when the music doesn’t quite live up to the element Dustin’s vocals are there to convince the listener otherwise. Listening to his raw and unadulterated shredding vocals on “The Flame Deluge,” then to his delicate and ethereal musings on “Silver Wings,” or “As the Crow Flies,” furthered on with his soulful and bluesy performance during “Moving Mountains” never does he come across as someone going overboard or someone missing their mark, even when a song is not quiet up to par.

Yes, there are some failings on this gigantic and stellar delivery. I believe the problem lies in trying to truly capture each element 100% of the time. If you look towards the Air disc this problem comes up more than once. On “Broken Lungs” and “The Sky Is Falling,” especially, the band ventures off course more than naught. Though on “Broken Lungs” they seem to still pull it back here and there, but on “The Sky Is Falling” the whole concept of Air is convoluted and tainted. Unwarranted handclaps and Oboe noises trying to imitate birds just doesn’t work for me even though on paper it sounds interesting. The other problem area, I find, is on the Fire disc, where most of the songs seem like refined pre-Vheissu Thrice music, which is not a bad thing, but I wish they would have explored or dabbled in something a little “different” sounding in the heavy department. Now, these are more of a personal preference thing than any real faults, I guess.

The thing with this release is that even though it has those “out of place moments” they are undeniably redeemed or forgotten about when listening to songs such as “Silver Wings,” “The Arsonist” and the entire collection of songs on both the Water and Earth EP. Some of these songs are instant classics for me and truly the greatest thing released by this band or most bands out there right now. There’s a genius behind such songs as “Milly Michaelson” with its simplistic drone-like guitar arrangement back dropped by the sparse and swirling build-ups of “airy” noises to the haunting, seemingly forgotten, child-like lullaby of “The Lion and the Wolf.” The beautiful and lush harmonies on “Open Water” gives impresses of the Beach Boys, at the same time giving the sensation that a wall of water is coming the listener’s way. The ending to this entire project is probably the most disturbing and visceral idea put to wax. During the couplet at the end of “Child of Dust:”

“Now safe beneath their wisdom and their feet
Here I will teach you truly how to sleep.”

You can hear the mounds of dirt and soil cover and close the casket, whether or not from their side or your side, distancing the vocals and music resulting in a chillingly and unconventional ending.

With every listen, from the start of this project to the end, I never once find myself looking at how much time is left nor do I have any antsy feelings of wanting to get to the next song, even when I’m on one that isn’t quite up to par. The worst song on this entire collection is better than anything they’ve done before and better than anything popular right now. When Riley said he just wanted the band to meet the demands of this new challenge, I would have to say they did it with flying colors. This whole project was, from the looks of it, a touchy subject because no one thought they could do it. On paper it sounds silly and overblown, but not once does either of those words cross my mind when listening. I applaud Thrice for achieving, and dare I say, surpassing my expectations.


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Yazz_Flute
June 29th 2008


19174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Good review here.



btw, a sonnet also requires that every line is 10 syllables long, might want to add

that ;)This Message Edited On 06.29.08

ScifiSaint
June 29th 2008


6 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hey, thank you.



I really thought I had that info about the sonnet in there. Hmm, maybe I will add it. ;)





Maybe you can help me with this question. I posted a review of Hiromi's Sonic Bloom (Jazz, progressive) album last night at the same time as this one and now it has been deleted. Why would that be? And here's another noob question, but why did all the reviews or at least mine get deleted a month or so ago? Was there a problem with the website?



Thank you.

Cuban Pete
June 29th 2008


3814 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I posted a review of Hiromi's Sonic Bloom (Jazz, progressive) album last night at the same time as this one and now it has been deleted. Why would that be?
you may want to ask the mods here: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552851
And here's another noob question, but why did all the reviews or at least mine get deleted a month or so ago? Was there a problem with the website?
yeah, the review site database crashed on may 17, so any reviews submitted since then were deleted.



Abdar112
June 29th 2008


392 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"The worst song on this entire collection is better than anything they’ve done before"



-Not true, Vheissu has so many amazing songs on it (i.e. For Miles & Red Sky)

SpinLightTwo
June 29th 2008


1067 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The worst song on this entire collection is better than anything they’ve done before




this album is probably the worst thing they've done, honestly. (obviously it's opinion). Songs like For Miles, To Awake And Avenge The Dead, Deadbolt, The Abolition of Man, Stand and Feel Your Worth, The Earth Will Shake, etc. just blow this away.

Yazz_Flute
June 29th 2008


19174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This may be slightly better than the first two sets, but the Fire disc is my favorite over all. Milly Michaelson is my favorite Thrice song behind For Miles and possibly The Earth Will Shake though. She needs more love

xmattxhardcore
June 30th 2008


422 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Fire is the worst.

roofi
June 30th 2008


959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Earth is the worst, but even that rules.

ninjuice
June 30th 2008


6760 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Nah Fire sucks, Water makes up for it. This album is much more consistently good.

Cuban Pete
June 30th 2008


3814 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

none of them suck, but i'd say fire is the least awesome

8ight8all
June 30th 2008


178 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yea fire doesn't do it for me like the other 3 do. Earth rules.

willfellmarsy
June 30th 2008


3847 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

silly and overblown


One album combining the best of all of the four parts probably could have been very good...review gives wayyy too much credit to the band, especially to the vocals/lyrics, but is well written and a very good first...

StrizzMatik
June 30th 2008


4232 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Great album and great review. The Alchemy Index is still Thrice's overall weakest effort since TAITA though.

Cuban Pete
June 30th 2008


3814 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

123

ninjuice
June 30th 2008


6760 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

none of them suck, but i'd say fire is the least awesome


I guess you're right. It's just that besides "Firebreather" Fire is pretty boring.

Yazz_Flute
June 30th 2008


19174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Doesn't anyone else have any love for fire



fire>air>>water>earth



Firebreather and Backdraft own face.This Message Edited On 06.30.08

botb
June 30th 2008


19794 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This album is classic for me. Great review.

Abdar112
July 1st 2008


392 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I used to just listen to "Firebreather" & "The Flame Deluge", disregarding everything in between, but after seeing "The Messenger" live it gave me a different perspective on it



Air>Water>Earth=Fire

Abdar112
July 1st 2008


392 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This comment above was pertaining to the Fire disc, obviously



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