Secret And Whisper
Great White Whale


2.0
poor

Review

by AtavanHalen USER (181 Reviews)
May 19th, 2008 | 14 replies


Release Date: 2008 | Tracklist

Review Summary: The sincerest form of flattery.

British Columbian quintet Secret & Whisper are one of the latest Tooth and Nail signings. After breaking up an older band and starting anew with a different vocalist (Charles Furney, formerly of Thebleedingalarm), you can understand how determined the band are to establish themselves as a staple of the flourishing North American post-hardcore scene. They have the passion, unquestionably, in hand with hype, energy and even sound instrumental ability.

It is sad to say, however, that this not enough to stop Great White Whale, the band’s debut, from being a generally uninteresting and lethargic effort that completely defies the band’s obvious potential. The album cover depicts a whale in a cage, which unintentionally describes the record perfectly- Secret and Whisper are aiming for something massive, but simply don’t know how to unlock it yet.

The main restriction on the band is their overall lack of ideas- though it’s not as if they don’t try. The idea of mixing elements of post-hardcore, metalcore and progressive rock must have looked great on paper, but ultimately falls short of the ridiculously high pedestal the band have set for themselves. There is no real stamp of identity found on the record- extract Charles Furney’s wailing on the plodding “You Are Familiar” and replace with the howls of Alex Varkatzas or Howard Jones and one could easily have an Atreyu or Killswitch Engage track left on the cutting room floor. The lyrics, too, are generally boring and tend to reference “secrets” and “whispers” frequently- wonder where that came from.

The worst thing about it all is when a song starts to show potential on Great White Whale, the band either get repetitive or use breakdowns to create a heavier backdrop or emphasise emotion, both of which simply don’t work at all. Guitarists Braydn Byron and Jason Ciolli appear to underestimate their own abilities, reluctant to take charge in any aspect of the songs’ overall sound, leaving that to the vocals (which are generally dull to begin with).

Near the end, the band even turns to balladry- and what a mistake this turns out to be. “Werewolves” is an absolute pain to even listen to, with weak delivery, soppy piano and ridiculously dull drum programming coming across as a mutant breed of Saosin’s “You’re Not Alone” and OneRepublic’s “Apologize”. Speaking of Saosin, guess who are fans? If you’ve guessed S&W, you’re not wrong: “Lovers” pays homage to both “Voices” and “I Can Tell There Was An Accident Here Earlier”; while “Vanishings” owes more than a share to “Bury Your Head”. Vocally, especially, Furney tries desperately to sound just like both the former (Anthony Green) and current (Cove Reber) frontmen of Saosin. He lacks, however, Green’s high pitched intensity and Reber’s harmony and emotional delivery to even be considered in the same league of either.

In spite of this, there is still hope for Secret & Whisper. In Great White Whale’s case, it is found in the songs “XOXOXO” and “Spider Besider”. Over an intense, fast-paced lick (arguably the only decent one found on the entire record), “XOXOXO” is the closest the band get at this stage to their desired sound- huge vocals, downtuned riffing and high-octane energy that keeps the listener interested and excited.

“Spider Besider” keeps up the pace of “X0XOXO”, but with more melodic contrast and an infectious chorus (easily the best song ever to have a Chinese name in its hook- “Iachoku! Iachoku!”). It is here where the band are focused, tight and prove their potential.

Such a shame, then, that this simply does not last throughout the album’s entirety. Even at forty-two minutes, the record feels overlong and attempts at listening to the record from start to finish are futile. Generally uninspired and, worse, uninteresting, Great White Whale unfortunately fails to make much of a splash at all. Post-hardcore fans should keep “XOXOXO” and “Spider Besider” on their iPods, everybody else should most probably steer clear of this one.



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AmericnZero02
May 16th 2008


3956 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Good review. I disagree with a lot of the points but they're well backed so don't worry I wont neg. I do agree that the guitarists let Charles lead more than he needs to.

Willie
Moderator
May 16th 2008


20673 Comments


There's a four and a two review for this now which almost feel like they're reviewing two different albums, but I just recently heard this again and am more inclined to agree with this one.

roofi
May 16th 2008


959 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I agree with this review more than Mike's, but I guess I like the album a little more than you do. They do some cool stuff with their guitars and the vocalist has a good, interesting voice, but most of the songs don't really go anywhere.This Message Edited On 05.16.08

SHOOTME
June 4th 2008


2393 Comments


Is this your first negative review?

Anyways, it's pretty good.

hybridstigmata
June 8th 2008


170 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I was quite impressed with this cd.

ScorpionStan
January 21st 2009


1912 Comments


I agree in part. SAW definitely shows some potential with this album, but they aren't there yet. In my opinion though, they're a lot closer than you think. Besides the 2 songs you mentioned, You Are Familiar has a killer opening and Attacker is just a great song, with very good lyrics too. Actress and Vanishings are pretty cool also. They have several duds as well, but the good moments outshine them.

I just wish you and others on this site would stop whining about how one band is a carbon copy of another, no individuality, blah blah blah, and thus crappy music. Just shut up. That's the way the rock music business is. It's been that way since the very beginning, with The Beatles. Get used to it. If we just had one band for every genre and subgenre of music, it'd be pretty dull, wouldn't it?This Message Edited On 01.21.09

Benjeh
December 1st 2009


17 Comments


I like this album. The drums (especially), guitars, and vocals stay interesting & technical throughout and it has alot of replay value.

AtavanHalen
December 1st 2009


17919 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

What a strange bump.



But yes this is still crap, I agree.

sspedding
February 12th 2010


5777 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"There is no real stamp of identity found on the record- extract Charles Furney’s wailing on the plodding “You Are Familiar” and replace with the howls of Alex Varkatzas or Howard Jones and one could easily have an Atreyu or Killswitch Engage track left on the cutting room floor."



Bizarre comment. Which of these songs strikes any resemblance to a KsE or Atreyu song? They are bands of a totally different genre.

AtavanHalen
February 13th 2010


17919 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The song I mentioned? Douche-fag.

sspedding
February 13th 2010


5777 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

point is you are wrong, wrong because it isn't metalcore and sounds nothing like either band. And its douche bag, douche fag.

AtavanHalen
February 13th 2010


17919 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The vocals may be all "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" but the drop C chuggachugg is metalcore as fuck.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3qncy5Qfk

Pndi
March 20th 2013


464 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Review is spot on.

Emim
October 8th 2024


38551 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Never felt led to neg a review from 16 years ago but I made an exception in this case.



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