DamnVanne: What's Wrong With [genre]?

ChopSuey 01.02.13	glam metal, because I said so
DamnVanne 01.02.13	Indie rock: Doing away with shallow lyrics about falling for boys/girls, the traditional conception of a good voice, and gimmicky electronics, most indie rock (exceptions exist) maintains the vocal-centric songwriting of pop music. Since I rarely give a damn about lyrics and actually prefer a more traditional singer, indie rock to me is just pop music with grating/weird/awkward vocals.
Deathconscious 01.02.13	no
bakkermaarten007 01.02.13	"Indie rock" I think you're narrowing it down to indie pop.
DamnVanne 01.02.13	Is that indie pop on my list?
Trebor. 01.02.13	"Indie rock: Doing away with shallow lyrics about falling for boys/girls, the traditional conception of a good voice, and gimmicky electronics, most indie rock (exceptions exist) maintains the vocal-centric songwriting of pop music. Since I rarely give a damn about lyrics and actually prefer a more traditional singer, indie rock to me is just pop music with grating/weird/awkward vocals." You described indie pop my word have you even heard pixies - doolittle or modest mouse my word
ChopSuey 01.02.13	I heard people call Radiohead indie rock
foxblood 01.02.13	my word my word pixies - doolittle
ThroneOfAgony 01.02.13	I actually enjoy Power Metal, very few bands though. For me it's Metalcore. Absolutely hate the genre with a passion
DamnVanne 01.02.13	likely so; I would call Passion Pit and Florence + the Machine indie pop, and I have the same problem with those artists.
bakkermaarten007 01.02.13	"Is that indie pop on my list?" Fine if you don't like these, but many would disagree with your description even if they'd put aside their musical subjectivity. But indie rock is one of the biggest genres there is, it's an umbrella term for so many types of rock music: emo, some post-hardcore, slowcore, folk rock, jangle pop, twee, dream pop, shoegaze,... the list goes on and on. So dismissing it based on the 0,0005 % of albums you dislike is quite of a stretch.
bakkermaarten007 01.02.13	And you're a Circa Survive and Minus The Bear fan. These two are indie rock broadly taken.
DamnVanne 01.02.13	["Is that indie pop on my list?" Fine if you don't like these, but many would disagree with your description even if they'd put aside their musical subjectivity. But indie rock is one of the biggest genres there is, it's an umbrella term for so many types of rock music: emo, some post-hardcore, slowcore, folk rock, jangle pop, twee, dream pop, shoegaze,... the list goes on and on. So dismissing it based on the 0,0005 % of albums you dislike is quite of a stretch.] I have a much more specific conception of indie rock than the blanket you put over those other genres. The only one of those I could mix with indie rock is folk rock. I try not to dismiss bands if the term(s) used to describe them are vague. 'Indie' does seem to be used more vaguely than I like to think of it, but only slightly
DamnVanne 01.03.13	Minus the Bear is totally an indie rock band, but I like them for all the same reasons I like any pop artist, and I love the math rock aspects of their music
bakkermaarten007 01.03.13	Well, we're not discussing the same thing then. If I'm not mistaken you dislike introspective lyrics and vocals that go off key sometimes and some synths. Well you should look more in alt rock then. Too bad 'cause when done right, indie rock (and more specifically emo) can be the best there is imo.
DamnVanne 01.03.13	normally I would say that I'm perfectly fine with introspective lyrics, but in the case of emo, it can get to be a little too much. Plus, my favorite things about music are complex instrumentals, climactic song structures and awesome electric guitar solos. If you know of any emo bands that incorporate any of those things, then lay it on me.
DamnVanne 01.03.13	I got another one rap: rapping
bakkermaarten007 01.03.13	Can't immediately think of guitar solos no. But boy, you're missing out on one of the greatest genres, one of zeeeeee greaaaaaaatest!
YankeeDudel 01.03.13	I like a handful of emo bands mainly for the instrumentation but I dont know why anybody wants to hear a vocalist on the verge of tears.
bakkermaarten007 01.03.13	Because of empathy and because of crying and because of feeling and because of sincerity and because of heartfelt and because of FEEEEEEEEEEELS
YankeeDudel 01.03.13	sounds like you should man up and jam some disturbed
bakkermaarten007 01.03.13	lol disturbed =D. Ten years ago I would have.
DadKungFu 01.03.13	no genre is bad. I feel bad for people who think so
Eclecticist 01.03.13	No genre is bad, just some of the intentions behind its contributors are.
MO 01.03.13	country because lol
savagecabbage 01.03.13	Anyone in any genre that doesn't jam from their fucking heart.