Calc
09.25.12 | THEY GAVE AWAY THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!!!! HOW MANY BLOWN CALLS CAN THEY MAKE!!!!!!! |
Trebor.
09.25.12 | sweet, this has been the most interesting season ever, no more shitty dynasties
|
bach
09.25.12 | GOLD TEAM RULES! |
AfterTheBreakdown
09.25.12 | kinda shitty being a packer fan right now... I honestly think there will be riots here tonight. |
Trebor.
09.25.12 | Packers fans are like the calmest people ever |
Calc
09.25.12 | Literally the first time I've ever been actually angry at a sport lol |
AfterTheBreakdown
09.25.12 | @trebor uhmmmm no. |
PuddlesPuddles
09.25.12 | As a packer fan, it was treated by the team with dignity. But I will fucking stab pinky toes |
Calc
09.25.12 | if i was that last field goal team i would had all my teammates turn their backs |
Satellite
09.25.12 | Packers fans are the biggest pussies ever.**
fixed |
PuddlesPuddles
09.25.12 | That was rather rude |
newjunkaesthetic93
09.25.12 | I've never seen anything like that. I fully expect to wake up tomorrow and see Roger Goddell's severed head on the news. |
Calc
09.25.12 | foxxxy is just the toy monkey clapping his cymbals together. after a while it's just background noise. lol jk |
illmitch
09.25.12 | i hate the packers and that was a horrible call, but the entire game was poorly officiated
at least now the media is going to blow up |
Recspecs
09.25.12 | Falcons
3-0
Life is good. |
Calc
09.25.12 | I WAS KIDDING!!!!!! |
North0House2
09.25.12 | lol football. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | Simultaneous catches have always gone to the receiver. Not really that controversial. There were worse calls on Sunday. |
illmitch
09.25.12 | that wasn't a simultaneous catch, though. DB got possession of the ball first and there was uncalled offensive pass interference. |
Calc
09.25.12 | @Aso that was clearly an interception in every way shape and form. |
ShadowRemains
09.25.12 | lol go Seahawks, but that call was fucking retarded |
Calc
09.25.12 | my sister-in-law is bragging about it and I wanna slap a bitch |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | He did initially catch it and get possession, but he didn't keep it. It was far from being "clear" and surely not clear enough to reverse.
The pass interference definitely happened though lol. Oh well. |
Poet
09.25.12 | They normally do not call offensive pass interference on a jump ball like that in the final play. Plus it was such a bang bang call in real motion instead of the slow motion replays that we've seen for the past half hour |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | Agreed. |
Calc
09.25.12 | again he did not catch that ball in anyway. the GB dude caught it, held it against his chest fell to the ground with it with the seattle guys arm trapped..its pretty obvious in every replay they showed |
Calc
09.25.12 | it wasn't even a bang bang call they signaled the TD like 7 secs later, which was to avoid looking dumb for not knowing what to do. |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | Anyone who thought that was a "simultaneous" catch is either high or doesn't know what "simultaneous" means. |
Calc
09.25.12 | i was waiting for pit to come in here.. |
acorncheese
09.25.12 | ^ yep. what an absolute shame. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | Simultaneous catch isn't when they both have control over it, it's when they catch it at the SAME time, that clearly didn't happen here.
On top of that, Jennings had obvious control.
On top of that, the two refs at the play signaled different things before the other raised his arms for touchdown.
On top of that, that missed interference call.
I mean god lol. |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | Aso's not only an idiot when it comes to music, but football as well.
Does your stupidity translate over to life as well? |
paxman
09.25.12 | As a born and bred Green Bay fan I am going on a murdering spree tonight. Good knowing you guys |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | It was "bang bang" as in when the ref got in a position where he actually could see who had possession of the ball on the ground, it looked like they both had it. The ref who had the better angle actually didn't signal for a TD, but that's too bad. It was too close to overturn. |
Mickeymau5
09.25.12 | lol paxman |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | "It was "bang bang" as in when the ref got in a position where he actually could see who had possession of the ball on the ground, it looked like they both had it. The ref who had the better angle actually didn't signal for a TD, but that's too bad. It was too close to overturn."
You do realize the term "bang-bang" doesn't exist in the NFL anymore, due to instant replay?
Actually think before you post next time. |
JAXETA
09.25.12 | a few |
Calc
09.25.12 | again..even on the ground GB had the ball firmly in his chest while Seattle only had his hands on it after working them in afterwards..your arguments are all nullified by the obvious video evidence |
illmitch
09.25.12 | i'm just glad everybody is responding to it and commenting on how horrible it is
troy aikman tweeted that the game was a joke |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | "You do realize the term "bang-bang" doesn't exist in the NFL anymore, due to instant replay?"
You do realize that there has to be indisputable evidence for something to be overturned, right? The "bang-bang" call on the field still matters because it will usually stand if there is even a shred of doubt.
Perhaps you should actually think! |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "It was "bang bang" as in when the ref got in a position where he actually could see who had possession of the ball on the ground, it looked like they both had it. The ref who had the better angle actually didn't signal for a TD, but that's too bad. It was too close to overturn."
OK but he could clearly see who had possession first. Green Bay. |
Calc
09.25.12 | aso has no idea how the NFL works.. |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | Aso, you're forgetting that THERE WAS INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE.
Again, think you fucking 'tard. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | "aso has no idea how the NFL works.."
Explain the replay rules to me, sir. I may be wrong!
"Lol you forgetting that THERE WAS INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE."
Nope, idiot. If it was indisputable, it would've been overturned! |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | so glad to be a Seahawks fan right now |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | you didn't reply to my reasonable and informed response and instead relied to pit's jabs
cool |
illmitch
09.25.12 | i wouldn't be glad to be a seahawks fan right now
winning the game like that is like making out with your sister |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | "Nope, idiot. If it was indisputable, it would've been overturned!"
Everyone in the world says it was indisputable evidence besides these replacement AMATEUR refs.
If this call were made by seasoned vets, I might give it the benefit of the doubt. After looking at the video and remembering the other variables, I can say that there was indisputable evidence.
Only a blind man or an idiot would say otherwise. Which are you? |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | yeah shit call |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | "you didn't reply to my reasonable and informed response and instead relied to pit's jabs
cool"
That's because he hasn't a fucking clue as to what he's talking about, Sea. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | yeah and i wasn't implying that your comments weren't totally right and warranted (obviously), don't worry pit ; ) |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | Oh, I didn't take offense to it, Sea. |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | driving through seattle was pretty shitty today because of the game, although it wasn't quite as bad
as i had anticipated. i didn't even know the seahawks won lol, i never watch sports. it's funny to see
people get in such heated arguments over grown men dressing up in tights and throwing balls around,
sometimes pausing to bend over or roll around on the ground with one another. |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | its not that it was the right call, but it has to be PERFECTLY CLEAR for a call to be over-turned, and it wasn't perfectly clear, but it was a bad call. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | @Sea, The evidence was not conclusive enough. Yeah, it looked like Jennings had it and pulled it in, but Tate had his hand on it. It was not indisputable enough to overturn. If it was called an INT initially, that call would have stuck for sure. Too bad it wasn't though. |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | It was pretty much as perfectly clear as you can get |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | nope, they both had hands on the ball. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "@Sea, The evidence was not conclusive enough. Yeah, it looked like Jennings had it and pulled it in, but Tate had his hand on it. It was not indisputable enough to overturn. If it was called an INT initially, that call would have stuck for sure. Too bad it wasn't though"
I never said they should overturn it. you can't even overturn possession on that play. it was an absolutely atrocious call because he missed (among other things) the fact that Jennings had obviously been the first to establish possession. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "nope, they both had hands on the ball."
what are you not getting? that doesn't matter |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | Both hands on the ball and simultaneous possession are two separate calls.
An arm on the ball as the players hits the ground doesn't warrant simultaneous possession.
Dumb call. Aso's dumb. Dumb all around. |
illmitch
09.25.12 | "it's funny to see people get in such heated arguments over grown men dressing up in tights and throwing balls around, sometimes pausing to bend over or roll around on the ground with one another."
SO EDGY |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | uhhhh if Tate didn't have his hands on the ball, the evidence would have been clear and it would have got overturned, but they both had possession |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | this shouldn't even be an argument
this thread should only be filled with rants about how much the officiating sucked |
Calc
09.25.12 | I can't believe how blind some people are. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | "I never said they should overturn it. you can't even overturn possession on that play. it was an absolutely atrocious call because he missed (among other things) the fact that Jennings had obviously been the first to establish possession."
Lol what. Wow. Then what are you even arguing about if not that it should have been overturned? Neither official was in good enough position to have seen it clearly in real time. And when they ran up and saw the two players on the ground, it must have looked simultaneous. Can't really blame them for that. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "uhhhh if Tate didn't have his hands on the ball, the evidence would have been clear and it would have got overturned, but they both had possession"
ugh
it doesn't matter that his hand was on the ball
a hand on the ball does not warrant possession
the call comes down to the fact that Jennings CLEARLY established possession FIRST therefore the simultaneous possession ruling is moot |
illmitch
09.25.12 | @Sea: exactly. regardless of whether that one call was blown, there were terrible calls throughout the entire game. the fact is that because of the replacement refs, a team may or may not have lost a game, which is just ridiculous. |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | "uhhhh if Tate didn't have his hands on the ball, the evidence would have been clear and it would have
got overturned, but they both had possession"
God, you're just as dumb as Aso. Tate only had one arm on the ball until they both hit the ground and
he finally had enough leverage to grab with his other arm. |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | yes, it was a horrible call and a horribly called game.
but it was entertaining |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | yeah i'm pretty edgy. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "Lol what. Wow. Then what are you even arguing about if not that it should have been overturned? Neither official was in good enough position to have seen it clearly in real time. And when they ran up and saw the two players on the ground, it must have looked simultaneous. Can't really blame them for that."
Yes they were in good enough position. It's their job to be. "saw the two players on the ground, it must have looked simultaneous"... like... how the fuck... are you not getting this lol?
the lack of simultaneous possession occurs in the air, not on the ground
when GB got possession first it makes the sim. poss. rule moot like omg how many times does this have to be explained... |
illmitch
09.25.12 | i love golden tate's reaction to being accused of pushing off against that defender
what a piece of shit |
Calc
09.25.12 | Everyone in the world know is familiar with the rules in any way knows the call was not right. whoever thinks otherwise needs to look at the replay again. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | "Yes they were in good enough position."
Okay, now I'm thinking you didn't even see the play and just read about it on sputnik. |
lucasjcockcroft
09.25.12 | intotheshit is getting way to upset over a wrong call in a football game |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "Simultaneous catches have always gone to the receiver. Not really that controversial."
And Aso, this is what I was arguing. The 'simultaneous catch' thing is complete bs as I've explained like 7 times now. keep up. |
Calc
09.25.12 | what was his reaction? |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "Okay, now I'm thinking you didn't even see the play and just read about it on sputnik."
ok, glad you got that out of your system
now please proceed to reply to my point... |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | Which point, Sea? |
illmitch
09.25.12 | @Calc: completely denied it and acted like he had no idea what they were talking about |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "Which point, Sea?"
the lack of simultaneous possession occurs in the air, not on the ground
when GB got possession first it makes the sim. poss. rule moot like omg how many times does this have to be explained...
"Simultaneous catches have always gone to the receiver. Not really that controversial."
And Aso, this is what I was arguing. The 'simultaneous catch' thing is complete bs as I've explained like 7 times now. keep up.
ugh
it doesn't matter that his hand was on the ball
a hand on the ball does not warrant possession
the call comes down to the fact that Jennings CLEARLY established possession FIRST therefore the simultaneous possession ruling is moot
|
Calc
09.25.12 | the dude rolled he pushed him so hard lol |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | you guys it's just a game seriously. |
illmitch
09.25.12 | yeah and then in some postgame interview he was like "we're just all about competing, that's what coach teaches us to do"
after they rolled that on espn somebody (i think it was steve young) said "i hate to say it, but by competing does he mean cheating?" |
illmitch
09.25.12 | aubergine, why are you bothering posting in a thread about something you don't care about |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 |
"Jennings CLEARLY established possession FIRST therefore the simultaneous possession ruling is moot"
Okay. This definitely was not clear in real time. Not from the broadcast angle and not from the angle the two referees had. |
acorncheese
09.25.12 | "Nope, idiot. If it was indisputable, it would've been overturned!"
lol retard lololololololol prolly a seattle fan lolololololol you're as bad as the god damn replacement refs |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "Okay. This definitely was not clear in real time. Not from the broadcast angle and not from the angle the two referees had."
lol
anyone else wanna weigh in on this?... |
EverythingEvil2113
09.25.12 | direct that anger at Roger Goodell, these refs are in way over their heads. but a deal needs to be made now. |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | @illmitch: i just honestly don't understand why people get so worked up over this stuff lol. i mean
just because i don't like watching sports doesn't mean you guys shouldn't enjoy it, but it seems kind
of silly to get so worked up over something that in the grand scheme of things is pretty
insignificant. it's not like they're going to go back and change the call if you argue about it
enough. also i'm bored. |
Calc
09.25.12 | "you guys it's just a game seriously."
shut up the arguments are about people's inability to see obvious video evidence of something. it could be about anything, it just happens to be about sports.
@mitch I don't have ESPN anymore but I've always liked steve young he says w/e he wants |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | "Not from the broadcast angle"
You mean the replay that they showed 10+ times where Jennings clearly had the ball? Is that what you're talking about? |
ShadowRemains
09.25.12 | "i never watch sports. it's funny to see people get in such heated arguments over grown men dressing up in tights and throwing balls around, sometimes pausing to bend over or roll around on the ground with one another."
lol you are hopeless |
illmitch
09.25.12 | @calc: definitely. he was one of the first analysts to speak out about this stuff too, i love it
@aubergine who are you to say what's significant and what's insignificant |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | wow that really offended you sorry. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | "lol"
That's a very reasonable and informed response.
"You mean the replay that they showed 10+ times where Jennings clearly had the ball? Is that what you're talking about?"
Nope, I'm pretty sure I said in real time. |
Calc
09.25.12 | "i never watch sports. it's funny to see people get in such heated arguments over grown men dressing up in tights and throwing balls around, sometimes pausing to bend over or roll around on the ground with one another."
if that is how you see things, then you have other things to worry about. |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | "Nope, I'm pretty sure I said in real time."
Okay, and then upon further review it was abundantly clear that Tate did not have possession of the ball. How can you be this dense? |
illmitch
09.25.12 | referring to sports as "grown men in tights" is basically the maturity equivalent of refusing to say "under god" in the pledge of allegiance in high school because you're an atheist |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | "if that is how you see things, then you have other things to worry about."
like what? |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | "referring to sports as "grown men in tights" is basically the maturity equivalent of refusing to say "under god" in the pledge of allegiance in high school because you're an atheist"
obviously i was exaggerating for comedic effect (although my efforts apparently failed.) |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | they did |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | Alright, looks like aubergine ruined the thread. I'll make my exit now.
And hey, guess what? The refs "clearly" agreed with what I'm saying. And I bet you the official response from the league that you'll hear tomorrow is that "the evidence was not conclusive enough for the ruling to be overturned" and that's all that will matter.
Peace out, suckas! |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | damn :/ |
illmitch
09.25.12 | the refs are terrible and the league is going to back whatever they say
i don't know what point you're trying to make |
auberginedreams
09.25.12 | "I'll make my exit now."
proceeds to reestablish his point one last time. |
WeepingBanana
09.25.12 | oh man Aso, i know you were dumb but i didn't know you were this dumb |
illmitch
09.25.12 | https://twitter.com/BMcCarthy32/status/250465895707725824
lol'd |
Calc
09.25.12 | Aso you are a dumb person and I guarantee the league will be apologizing for this joke of a game with the real referee holdout ending soon after. |
intotheshit
09.25.12 | The league is already apologizing. There's a vid on ESPN.com of the Head of Officiating saying the refs got the call wrong and he's already apologizing. |
Recspecs
09.25.12 | AsoTamaki still being a dumbass what else is new?
Oh yeah, Falcons 3-0. |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066164/article/nfl-supports-decision-to-not-overturn-seahawks-touchdown |
Recspecs
09.25.12 | That's how I feel when Arsenal loses. |
SeaAnemone
09.25.12 | "http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066164/article/nfl-supports-decision-to-not-overturn-seahawks-touchdown"
yes, because the NFL wouldn't be biased at all towards that opinion lol...
stop trying to refute clear video evidence, so many things about that call (and lack thereof) were incorrect
you, the nfl, and (some of but not all) the people that are paid to remain neutral on the issue are the only ones saying otherwise |
AsoTamaki
09.25.12 | Dude, Sea. Face the facts. What bias? They even straight up admitted the part that was clearly an error in officiating:
"While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game."
Everything is exactly as I said. It was indeed reviewable, but there was no indisputable evidence to overturn the simultaneous possession. |
Recspecs
09.26.12 | Aso have you ever played any form of a sport in your life? |
YoYoMancuso
09.26.12 | GOLD TEAM RULES! [2] |
AsoTamaki
09.26.12 | Yes, Recspecs. Why do you ask? |
Recspecs
09.26.12 | The drama club doesn't count. |
AsoTamaki
09.26.12 | @andcas, the regular refs want a better deal/more money and the league doesn't want to give it to them.
@Recspecs, I was hoping for something more clever. You've lost it, man. |