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nononsense 03.11.13	I forgot Forever on the first list. Here is the revised. I decided to not put the two serial films this time.
lucasjcockcroft 03.11.13	all the old ones in random order on the top and the new ones in random order on the bottom
DotEight 03.11.13	Eh I think I'll always love the original the best.
KenboSlice 03.11.13	1. Batman Begins 2. The Dark Knight 3. Batman Returns 4. Batman 5. The Dark Knight Rises 6. Batman Forever 7. Batman and Robin I'll never understand why people think TDK was better than Begins.
DotEight 03.11.13	"I'll never understand why people think TDK was better than Begins." Heath...Ledger...
lucasjcockcroft 03.11.13	I've seen all 3 of the new ones and Heath is still the only character I remember
XingKing 03.11.13	This list is almost perfect. I would flip Batman Returns and TDKR. 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 5 > 7
nononsense 03.11.13	Am I the only one who thinks Jim Carrey was genius as The Riddler? When they reboot the series in 2015 I think he could revisit the role.
Crymsonblaze 03.11.13	1. Batman '89 2. Batman Returns Doesn't matter past this point
lucasjcockcroft 03.11.13	Yeah he nailed it I hope the new ones are silly again
nononsense 03.11.13	I wouldn't call the old ones silly. Batman and Batman Forever were pretty dark.
NapalmCrusader 03.11.13	Lol. 6 and 7
Atari 03.11.13	dude batman returns is waaaaay better than batman forever so is the dark knight rises
Atari 03.11.13	batman returns is my favorite of the old ones. i saw batman forever a few months ago because i remembered liking it when i was younger but god it was just about as awful as batman and robin.
nononsense 03.11.13	Nah Jim Carrey was brilliant as The Riddler.
Atari 03.11.13	when's the last time you'e seen it nononsense? lol
omnipanzer 03.11.13	"1. Batman '89" Jack Nicholson = Best Villain Michael Keaton = Best Batman It did a great job of walking that comic book/film tight rope at a time when comic book based films were horrid for the most part. 2. Batman Begins Fantastic reboot.
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Any of the films between Batman Returns and Batman Begins are a travesty.
nononsense 03.11.13	Ledger was better than Nicholson as The Joker. He made him much more evil than Nicholson did. Imo of course.
omnipanzer 03.11.13	I thought the Ledger take on The Joker was phenomenal and a great angle but I prefer the Nicholson version. It might be because you already know Nicholson is fucking insane.
Atari 03.11.13	lol both jim carrey and tommy lee jones are just annoying in that movie
omnipanzer 03.11.13	lol, yes
toxin. 03.11.13	"I'll never understand why people think TDK was better than Begins. " probably because the plot made sense? "Sup we're gonna evaporate the water supply and make everyone crazy... even though evaporating the water will kill everyone in the vicinity" also scarecrow is the shittiest villain ever with the most anticlimactic death this side of Miranda Tate
nononsense 03.11.13	Jim Carrey's Riddler was the closest to The Joker as you can get without being The Joker.
nononsense 03.11.13	also scarecrow is the shittiest villain ever with the most anticlimactic death this side of Miranda Tate Scarecrow never died..... I think you mean Bane.
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Wit, charm, knowledge, the ability to make women swoon and kill his opponents. These are all tools in the utility belt of any worthwhile Batman.
lucasjcockcroft 03.11.13	honestly, I don't Christian Bale at all
toxin. 03.11.13	"Scarecrow never died..... I think you mean Bane." yeah you're right, I should have said "downfall" or whatever. basically what andcas said
nononsense 03.11.13	I likes Keaton the best. Bale was alright. Clooney was the worst.
ViralOblivion 03.11.13	http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/mjtv/ss/37377-shameful-sequels-batman-forever
omnipanzer 03.11.13	"batman in tdkr had no wit, charm, or knowledge. in fact he was pretty much a dumbass who got played by catwoman on multiple occasions yet still trusted her." Sarcasm much andcas
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Batman Forever (1995) Robin: Holey rusted metal, Batman! Batman: Huh? Robin: The ground, it's all metal. It's full of holes. You know, holey. Batman: Oh. need I say more?
Ire 03.11.13	dkr ruled fuck you guys
omnipanzer 03.11.13	lol, seems like a good evening.
omnipanzer 03.11.13	I've been in and out of it over the years. Nothing recently though. Most recent things I've seen are the "War of Light" and the "Blackest Night" Lantern corps crossovers and "World War Hulk".
omnipanzer 03.11.13	nah, a series goes for longevity, movies go for the big bang.
nononsense 03.11.13	Thoughts on Paul Giamatti as Rhino in the new Spider-Man?
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Paul Giamatti is great at everything he does, fuck it.
Tikicobra 03.11.13	When you say "Batman," do you mean the '60s one? If so that should be number one, and if not, then why the heck isn't that movie on this list?
nononsense 03.11.13	No I mean the one with Jack Nicholson.
nononsense 03.11.13	Were Electro and Rhino ever partners in any of the spider-man comics?
CK 03.11.13	I have a hard time deciding between Batman and The Dark Knight. TDK was just such a good film overall, but Batman has Jack Nicholson...
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	JaimIe Foxxxy as Electro? Holy facepalm
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	60s Batman movie should be on this list at two or three
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Fuck it dust Ben Affleck off and give spidey some help. My favorite Superhero needs a web redemption.
omnipanzer 03.11.13	Oh yah by far.
Curse. 03.11.13	Kilmer as Bruce Wayne/Batman>Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman
nononsense 03.11.13	http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/spider-man/24285/rhino-electro-the-amazing-spider-man-2-villains-in-depth
omnipanzer 03.11.13	oh, now that's a controversial stand.
Curse. 03.11.13	Spiderman 1&2 are awesome and blow away ASM
Curse. 03.11.13	Bale's Batman is the weak link in TDK trilogy
Curse. 03.11.13	I don't particularly like Tobey as Spiderman but I also don't like garfield as him either. Honestly, idk who would be great as Spiderman
nononsense 03.11.13	Considering Gwen's death is so iconic, I doubt it will be at the hands of either Electro or Rhino. I think that will happen in film 3 at the hands of the Green Goblin. We agree that it was Norman Osborn in the post-credits of TAS-M?
nononsense 03.11.13	It says the address is invalid, andcas.
d4rock 03.11.13	This is without a doubt the correct order. 1 Batman (1989) 2 The Dark Knight 3 Batman Begins 4 Batman Returns 5 The Dark Knight Rises 6 Batman Forever 7 Batman (1966) 8 Batman and Robin
nononsense 03.11.13	I mean they can kill her in the next movie, but as iconic as her death is, it would be disappointing if it was at the hands of either Electro or Rhino. It's their movie so they can do what they wish.
nononsense 03.11.13	That's what I'm saying. It would have to be in a third film though.
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	90s Batman cartoon > greater than the movies yes except it barely beats the last two movies with Bane and Joker I haven't seen AMS but rebooting a whole movie series was assinine if it wasn't at least a 4.5/5. Idc if Toby was a bad Spiderman and tbh I thought he was average at worst.... Although I admit at his best...still average lol.
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	I would totally go see a Spidey movie in theaters if they did the original MJ "death" from the comics. That would be truly epic.
nononsense 03.11.13	Reboots are inevitable, especially comic movies. Batman reboot is due in 2015.
Ignimbrite 03.11.13	you actually put Forever above TDKR TDK>TDKR>BB>Batman>BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forever>>>>>>>>B&R
nononsense 03.11.13	Well TDKR was awful so yes I actually did :)
Ignimbrite 03.11.13	your mom was awful
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	TDKR definitely had some serious pacing problems, but c'mon...the first time Bane and Batman met was one of the best scenes of the trilogy-that alone has to give it more points than Forever, which was just a cheese fest
Ignimbrite 03.11.13	also, Anne Hathaway was hot as fuck in that movie.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	I disagree, but still-Bane's dialogue was the most badass
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	Andcas I totally agree with you on the Bane Batman fight but I liked how Bane took over the city and the twists at the end were well done.
klap 03.11.13	i definitely find dunst more attractive than stone hep kat, just the fact that i know dunst is DOWN is a big turn on
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	She's down?
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	Kirsten has beautiful eyes
Ignimbrite 03.11.13	She's down? [2]
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	They had two chances to make Mary Jane hotter than Gwen like in the comics and they fucked up both times
tragic.details 03.11.13	Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are definitely the best. Every time I watch TDKR, I like it less and less. It's just one of those things you can really only enjoy once, before you start to see all of its inherent flaws.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	The Dark Knight has its flaws too, not nearly as bad as TDKR but they still become obvious and annoying on repeated viewings even if TDK has the best villains of the series. Batman Begins is the best imo (pacing doesnt suck, Bruce Wayne is actually a character that people give a shit about, he's a ninja unlike in TDK, atmosphere, sucker for origin stores, etc)
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	Yup, they set the bar too high when they cast Emma Stone as Gwen in the first one...seriously, who did they think they were gonna get that was hotter than her?
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.13	Damn Ive only seen TDKR once does this mean I don't actually like it and I was tricked?
nononsense 03.11.13	Yeah pretty much.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.11.13	I fucking loved it the first time I saw it, but then again I was also too stoned/excited to notice all of the embarrassingly obvious plot holes
nononsense 03.12.13	http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/12/28/everything-wrong-with-the-dark-knight-rises-in-3-minutes/
PayneTiger777 03.12.13	Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood!!!
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	The Dark Knight Returns was also a very solid 2 part adaptation
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	There's very little that's good about Nolan's trilogy. However, none of those are as annoying as Batman Forever.
klap 03.12.13	i dk the only time i found emma stone attractive was in superbad and bc she's like eminently attainable in that movie
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	I dunno, I still think Batman Begins is amazing and though I don't like all of TDK< parts of it are some of the best scenes in comic movie history.
nononsense 03.12.13	There's very little that's good about Nolan's trilogy. However, none of those are as annoying as Batman Forever. I'm not surprised you would say this coming from the guy who thought Oz The Great And Powerful was "pree good"
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Point is Evil Dead remake is going to be better than every movie talked about in this list
nononsense 03.12.13	Horror remakes are always laughable, Evil Dead will be no different.
Trebor. 03.12.13	Why are people still doing this to themselves Every Batman thread is exactly the same
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Normally I'd agree with you, but considering that the red-band trailer looked like the greatest thing ever (coming from someone who despised the idea of this film existing before the trailer was released, Evil Dead is one of my favorite films), Bruce Campbell and Raimi getting the final say in everything as producers, promise of VERY hard R (which I normally wouldn't care about, but it's Evil Dead), going back to its horror roots, and all of the overwhelmingly positive early reviews, I'm pretty optimistic about it
Trebor. 03.12.13	The new Evil Dead got rave reviews from festivals so far It took them 70 days of filming (unheard of for horror) because they refused to film it on a set (at night only) and no CG bro it's fucking legit
nononsense 03.12.13	If its good, let me know.
Trebor. 03.12.13	There are usually 0 good movies until May every year so I'm stoked just at the prospect of actually seeing a good movie
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Are we even getting any good movies this summer? Star Trek II looks pretty cool, but that can't be it.
nononsense 03.12.13	I'm pumped for Man of Steel.
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	"I'm not surprised you would say this coming from the guy who thought Oz The Great And Powerful was "pree good"" And it was. Boom.
Trebor. 03.12.13	They didn't call it Star Trek II because that would be confusing as fuck Iron Man 3, Monster University, Pacific Rim, Elysium
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	Nolan's pseudo-intellectual dreck is beyond irritating. If you like ham-fisted dialogue, passionless acting (for the most part), and plot holes magnified by Nolan's pathetic attempts at comic book realism, then go ahead. I will stick to movies that don't annoy the shit out of me.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Holy shit I totally forgot all about Man of Steel- @Trebor, honestly I don't really care about any of those other movies (other than Star Trek "into darkness" of course...just looked up the name in google, I wasnt actually cool enough to remember)
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	"hollywood will fuck up superman again" Agreed.
nononsense 03.12.13	hollywood will fuck up superman again It's Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan so I'm optimistic.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	@andcas-wreck it ralph was the tits, but I do wish they spent a little less time in that candy land place @crymson-whats your favorite comic film?
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	New Star Trek looks entertaining. Evil Dead remake of course. Hmm... Gatsby I'll see. The Conjuring looks pree good. Actually quite a few movies I want to see.
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	"@crymson-whats your favorite comic film?" The Spider-Man trilogy. Followed by Batman '89 and then probably X-Men United.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Forgot it was Snyder directing that...he hasn't done anything good ever, minus a few cool scenes in Dawn of the Dead
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins are my two favorites, I actually really didn't like X Men United at all
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	I liked the Dawn of the Dead remake well enough, but otherwise I find Snyder pretty irritating as well.
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	"Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins are my two favorites, I actually really didn't like X Men United at all" The first two X-Men are a pretty distant 5th and 6th for me. Aside from the three Raimi Spider-Man films and Batman '89, I can't really say I like comic book movies very much.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	The second X-Men movie is the only one I really liked, I grew up on the comics and I guess it was just way too distant from that for me to enjoy. Agreed, most comic movies suck and Snyder is not the right choice for any movie that he actually has to direct minus Dawn, which was more cool than good.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	andcas- yeah, like I said before I thought it was a good movie, but they kind of cockteased me too bad when they had that awesome Halo/Gears-esque universe for like 7 minutes and then went to candy land for the remainder of the movie.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Apparently the next one will have Mario, they wanted to put him in the first one but the director said there was no where for him to make a cameo where it would fit into the script naturally. I know it's never gonna happen, but I'm crossing my fingers for Crash Bandicoot
klap 03.12.13	Evil Dead has gotten some negative to middling reviews too, but I'm going to it to see a movie that miraculously received an R instead of an NC-17, not something intending to recapture the oddball comedy of the original (which is impossible anyways without a time travelling Bruce Campbell)
klap 03.12.13	i mean no remake really ever needs to be done, that ship has sailed
nononsense 03.12.13	Forgot it was Snyder directing that...he hasn't done anything good ever, minus a few cool scenes in Dawn of the Dead Um......300, Watchmen.....
Trebor. 03.12.13	Because that's what it was rated
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Wasn't a fan of 300 or Watchmen, 300 was just a bunch of slow-motion over CGI action scenes with zero plot which wasn't really my thing and Watchmen was directed poorly imo-yeah it was accurate, but the acting (minus a couple people)/music choices/etc were just wayyyy too poorly done and straightforward for the complex source material...it felt like a fake carbon copy. And it's possible that Evil Dead won't be awesome, but I'm still hopeful for it because everything that has been released thus far about that movie looks like they're really doing it justice, which I never thought I'd say a year ago
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Every review I've read has pretty much agreed that it's insanely violent, gory, and uncomfortable to watch so I'm not too worried about it being too soft. Though, it would be nice to see a full body dismemberment like in the original which I don't know if they will do (those squirming disconnected body parts freaked me out as a kid)
nononsense 03.12.13	I enjoyed both 300 and Watchmen so I have high expectations, but that's just me.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	imo sin city captured the feel of the comics WAYYY better than watchmen did
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	i don't think evil dead will be very good but it's still the movie i'm most looking forward to this year
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	If it's anywhere as good as the second redband trailer I'll be happy, it will never be as good as the original 2 (not too huge on Army, feels like a spinoff with no horror element) because I grew up on those movies and they're B-movie horror perfection imo, I just want a movie that is gory, scary and shows respect to the original
savaah 03.12.13	Anybody seen Batman: Year One movie yet?
nononsense 03.12.13	Olympus Has Fallen should be good.
nononsense 03.12.13	But it also had god in it.
PistolPete 03.12.13	You know what...I agree with this exactly I think. Well done sir. Really disliked TDKR
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Just saw an ad for Hangover 3...why is this a thing thats happening? Also, I know this is another horror remake but considering they're supposedly being way more faithful to the novel I'm kind of nervously excited but still kind of excited for Carrie. Won't be surprised if it blows, but it has a fighting chance.
nononsense 03.12.13	The first Hangover is hilarious.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Won't this just be the third? And the others didn't really give as much of a fuck as following the book from what I know. Yeah, first Hangover was fun but it REALLY didn't need a sequel, definitely doesn't need another one
nononsense 03.12.13	Yeah I agree, but they made to sequels for money, obviously.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	True, it's an obvious cash grab, but I hope they atleast try to have a good time/make a good movie while doing so. Wishful thinking, but fuck 2013 is looking grim for movies, I need to look forward to something.
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	"If it's anywhere as good as the second redband trailer I'll be happy, it will never be as good as the original 2 (not too huge on Army, feels like a spinoff with no horror element) because I grew up on those movies and they're B-movie horror perfection imo, I just want a movie that is gory, scary and shows respect to the original" I think the red band trailer looks okay, but it seems like it's lacking that Evil Dead element. I don't think it's going to be able to separate itself enough from standard horror fare, despite the amount of gore. I think they were wise to not include the character of Ash if Bruce wasn't going to reprise it, but I don't see this movie having a real standout character like that. He wasn't really that prominent in the original ED though, so I guess it's alright. I dunno, the three ED films are some of my favorite movies of all time (and I'd be hard-pressed to pick a favorite; I love all three for different reasons) and I don't think it'll measure up, but I'm certainly excited to see it either way.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Yeah, I'm hoping this movie will have its own identity but who knows. Agreed, I think it's stupid that so many people were bitching about Ash not being in it...why the fuck would anyone want to replace Bruce Campbell with some younger no name dude who is starring in a horror remake? That sounds way more disrespectful then a reinterpretation, especially considering the people complaining really just want the Ash from Evil Dead II/Army. All he did in the first movie was get scared, he was more just a prop for the horror that was happening around him. And andcas, I highly doubt that's whats going to happen, but if it does turn out to be a shitty torture porn I will...not threaten to murder someone on the internet, but I will send everyone involved with the film disapproving letters that will more than likely hurt their feelings for at least several minutes. And I will send them these letters every day so they will have to live out the rest of their lives knowing how much they upset me personally, which will obviously ruin their happiness. It's the best I got.
klap 03.12.13	the levels of gore are right up there with the best french torture porn supposedly
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Wait, you mean like Inside and Martyrs and stuff like that? I wouldn't classify that as torture porn, but if that's true then that is great news.
nononsense 03.12.13	Saw is the prime example of torture porn.
DarkSideOfLucca 03.12.13	Well, yeah that and Hostel. MTV stylized/ over the top gore but not in a horrific way, just stupid, pointless and fun-less gore/everyone is one dimensional/ etc Basically its like the new generation trying to be over the top like the gory 70s and 80s horror splatter fests but they don't understand anything that made them awesome, while also totally lacking creativity and failing at generally all aspects of filmmaking
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	Except the first Saw is pretty good. 2-7 are awful though.
Crymsonblaze 03.12.13	And torture porn in general is terrible.
nononsense 03.12.13	The first Saw is one of my favorite movies. Strong plot, less emphasis on gore.
klap 03.12.13	i dk Martyrs is def torture porn