dunksman23: Metal Elitism Will Be The Death Of Metal

Turtlestlker 05.07.12	Wait till KILL sees this espeacially 245678
Crysis 05.07.12	metal elitism has always been around and will always be around
Keyblade 05.07.12	so because you like a band they're not deathcore anymore? btw wtf is pop-punk hardcore? you're adding and deleting genres out of nowhere.
MMX 05.07.12	1 overrated 2 Boring 3 overrated 4 I enjoy 5 Hawks Loves this 6 Shit 7 Shit with Makeup 8 Shit laced with breakdowns 9 not terrible, but not that amazing 10 boring
ApplicationToHeaven 05.07.12	"all of a sudden they are traitors to metal because they progressed their sound" change=/=progression jsyk
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	For one, elitism is a gripe of humanity, not the solely the metal scene. That being said, most of this has it's "status" for a reason - and just because people don't agree with your opinion (and lolno, Whitechapel isn't Death Metal) doesn't mean they're elitist.
Thane 05.07.12	Not deathcore. Suck it, it's not. It's death metal just fuckn deal with it.
Tyrael 05.07.12	8 is really, really bad
LifeAsAChipmunk 05.07.12	When can KILL kill you? Black Veil Brides and Emmure make awful music, as simple as that. Anyways, the most annoying part about most of the bands here are their fans.
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	3's boring as fuck. Their first is better but also gets boring. Wtf 2 they're deathcore. 4's newer stuff is shit. Their first is good. 9's boring. I don't care how 7 dresses. They're shit. That's the difference between then and Crüe/Twisted Sister. People don't these because they're "false metal" they hate them because they suck.
LifeAsAChipmunk 05.07.12	"All this being said: Idiots will be the death of Metal." Lol.
Killerhit 05.07.12	It's not my fault ya'll are so stupid
Motiv3 05.07.12	metal elitism has always been around and will always be around. [2]. I'm not a metal elitist by any means but most of these do really suck regardless of what sub genre they are. Oh and Whitechapel and Suidice Silence are definitely deathcore. Lrn2genre.
Killerhit 05.07.12	Which is more important The death of metal Or the death of your friends Decide.
Trebor. 05.07.12	Worst list ever?
Imperial 05.07.12	Like metal is the only genre that has elitism...also did you even listen to any of these albums? #1 and 3 are the only albums on this list that aren't absolute garbage.
Killerhit 05.07.12	Oh if you only knew
Hawks 05.07.12	"#1 and 3 are the only albums on this list that aren't absolute garbage." Nah, those suck too.
Imperial 05.07.12	"#1 and 3 are the only albums on this list that aren't absolute garbage." Nah, those suck too." It fills that void of guitar wankery when I need it.
Killerhit 05.07.12	Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever Best fucking thread ever
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	"Worst list ever?" Worst list ever.
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	"Nah, those suck too." Nailed it.
AllGabrielsAreGlass 05.07.12	Dude grow the fuck up, nobody gives a shit about this "Elitism" as I'm sure everyone else has already made clear, all you've gone and done is portrayed yourself to be every bit as bad as though your lashing out at. Again I repeat: Grow the fuck up, and to avoid getting flamed any further, leave this site entirely.
MO 05.07.12	All this is is someone getting pissed because bands that they just found or have been listening to for a few years and think are br00tal get ripped a new asshole by people who have listened to said bands and moved on to better stuff.
AllGabrielsAreGlass 05.07.12	Chargers 26 is feeling happy as he's finally found a crappier list than those he makes.
phishing 05.07.12	no wonder everyone complains about how retarded new users are
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	shit list
dunksman23 05.07.12	I think some of you are missing the point. I mean to say that yes bvb suck dick, but they get mostly on their image. And, with regards to cryptopsy and CoF and morbid, yes the albums aren'tgreat but so many of these "trve metalheads" are so quick to hate bands that change or don't fit into their idealized view of "real metal"
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	so you mean they like good music and hate bad music what a revelation
dunksman23 05.07.12	But I like metal. Just not some of the views within metal communities
Hawks 05.07.12	Because you like awful metal so it makes you feel bad when people shit on the terrible bands that you enjoy. It's alright bro, let it all out.
Ire 05.07.12	hawks calling the kettle black LOL
SpiritCrusher2 05.07.12	hahahah stupid kid, nobody hates these albums or bands because they look like fags, or because they changed their sound. that's just a bonus! the real reason is THEIR MUSIC SUCKS! deal with it
Hawks 05.07.12	Ire dude you've been going on about the same thing for years. Just do us all a favor and shut your 14 year old, fat Mexican ass up.
Ire 05.07.12	oh u rly told me hey man how's JEANNETTE JAY HAWKS REPRESENT
AllGabrielsAreGlass 05.07.12	And the shit rains down...
Eulogize 05.07.12	The Cleansing and A New Era Of Corruption are deathcore.
Hawks 05.07.12	And there you go resorting back to the same thing you always say because you can't think of anything else. MAN YOU'RE AWESOME PLEASE TEACH ME YOUR WAYS.
MO 05.07.12	"but so many of these "trve metalheads" are so quick to hate bands that change or don't fit into their idealized view of "real metal" no we just stick with that bands better albums, they're still a good band, but only reflected in the albums that don't sound like dogshit
SpiritCrusher2 05.07.12	Hawks and Ire remind me of Kyle and Cartman here somehow.. lol maybe not
Ire 05.07.12	im srry idk lemme make fun of peple who post cof on their lists ohwait u used to the same thing
MMX 05.07.12	'The Cleansing and A New Era Of Corruption are deathcore." THE DEATHCORE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN
dunksman23 05.07.12	Garr your missing the point. The only bands I enjoy in this are 1,3,4,9,10. All I'm saying is that, for instance, some metalheads I know have totally renounced cryptopsy and morbid angel because of their latest offerings. I mean, hating a band cause of 1 or 2 lame albums? That's what so many elitists do. And I think that is just stupid. And with regards to bvb I know they suck. But I don't understand why metalheads have to keep hating them. Just get over it don't listen to them
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	"The Cleansing and A New Era Of Corruption are deathcore." The sputnik deathcore authority has spoken. They're deathcore. "stop dealing with metal. then you won't have to associate with the people." Yeah, pretty much. Listmaker needs to stop being a little bitch.
Emim 05.07.12	"Which is more important The death of metal Or the death of your friends Decide." DEICIDE* anyway list sucks. metal elitism will be the death of bad metal, i.e., this list
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	"I'm saying is that, for instance, some metalheads I know have totally renounced cryptopsy and morbid angel because of their latest offerings. I mean, hating a band cause of 1 or 2 lame albums? That's what so many elitists do. And I think that is just stupid. And with regards to bvb I know they suck. But I don't understand why metalheads have to keep hating them. Just get over it don't listen to them" Dude who cares. If they don't like it, they don't like it. Stop whining about what others don't like and shut up.
KSK1 05.07.12	lolthread
Motiv3 05.07.12	Dude who cares. If they don't like it, they don't like it. Stop whining about what others don't like and shut up. [2]. You're fighting a losing battle bro, I'd back out now.
MO 05.07.12	"Just get over it don't listen to them" the thing here is that people will always find something they don't like and rip it hard...ESPECIALLY on the internet. It just so happens these bands paint a massive bullseye on themselves so it makes it that much easier to rip them for obvious reasons suck it up princess
dunksman23 05.07.12	Naham I don't care. I'm not trying to whine or anything, just express my opinion. Granted this list was a bit of a rant, but hey, it's Sputnik. I just would like if some people got any message from this list. Apart from "list maker sucks" or whatever :p
Eulogize 05.07.12	"THE DEATHCORE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN" Thank you. I'll be here all week.
MMX 05.07.12	"list maker sucks" Pretty sure that's the only thing people got from this list
dunksman23 05.07.12	And andcas, you really think there are no good metal bands coming through? :/ I dunno
dunksman23 05.07.12	And how do I suck? I would like to know
KSK1 05.07.12	I like 4 and 9 to extent, but people throwing hissy fits cause other people don't like their music is part of the reason the fan base for both of those bands (and the rest of these) sucks so bad.
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	andcas is just trying really hard
MO 05.07.12	lol
dunksman23 05.07.12	Fair call andcas. And by hard to please, you're talking about elitists? Cause if you are, that's kinda like what I'm talking about, or trying to anyway
Ire 05.07.12	so hard
dunksman23 05.07.12	Ksk, I'm not throwing a hissy fit. I'm just sticking up for what I thinkngetsbhated on too much. I'm not a fanboy of any of these bands. I just hate the close mindedness and perpetual hate elitists emit
BallsToTheWall 05.07.12	Gayest list of all time.
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	andas, usually I like you but what you just said was incredibly stupid.
Emim 05.07.12	since when did hating bad music become elitism?
dunksman23 05.07.12	Geez. Im guessing i just gained pretty much infinite hate cause of this list huh? Oh well I tried :/
dunksman23 05.07.12	There's a big difference between hating bad music and elitism. That's kinda why the term elitism exists
AllGabrielsAreGlass 05.07.12	How, tell me HOW does it affect you in any way if people who aren't you have differing opinions to you? REALLY? Does it hurt you? Does this list make you feel special because you think you're more open-minded? Seriously, people rag on these bands for whatever reason they want, you shouldn't even give a damn to begin with. [2] Be proud of open mindedness inwardly, because everyone has different taste and not everyone is like that. And as evidenced its a sure way to get flamed. So stop giving a shit what other people think and value your opinions over others, because it's yours and no one else's.
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	"since when did hating bad music become elitism?" A long time according to dunksman.
MO 05.07.12	no, people will forget in a week dunksman
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	"since when did hating bad music become elitism?" Since when did recognizing bad music is bad become "hating" ? If everyone hating every shitty band that everyone would sure as hell be busy with their emotions.
ZilbelPing 05.07.12	"There's a big difference between hating bad music and elitism. That's kinda why the term elitism exists" Then let them be elite. Doesn't harm you in any way, shape, or form.
Emim 05.07.12	"There's a big difference between hating bad music and elitism. That's kinda why the term elitism exists" not in the way you presented it.
SpiritCrusher2 05.07.12	SOOOOOO MUUUUUCH HAAAAAAATE
Keyblade 05.07.12	" some metalheads I know have totally renounced cryptopsy and morbid angel because of their latest offerings. I mean, hating a band cause of 1 or 2 lame albums?That's what so many elitists do." No, that's what idiots do. Dedicating a list to idiots is a waste of time.
Emim 05.07.12	"If everyone hating every shitty band that everyone would sure as hell be busy with their emotions. " their angry emotions is they're the acacia strain
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	lol, very angry.
dunksman23 05.07.12	Well I apologize if I presented my idea wrongly. I didn't mean to offend anyone, just venting some frustration I guess. Listen. Hating on a band for making shit music isn't elitism. Hating on a band because they are different or move away from pre existing expectation or mould is. And I hate that view. That's what was trying to say. Sorry if i fucked up which I guess I kinda did. And I know it doesn't effect me. But as I said I as just venting
Shuyin 05.07.12	6: i would prefer them to release that album under a different project, not under the name 'Morbid angel'. if they had done that then im pretty sure many people wouldnt mind the album at all, its cool to experiment. it was an obvious marketing move and as a fan of the old stuff i was pretty pissed as well tbh.
Motiv3 05.07.12	'Well I apologize if I presented my idea wrongly. I didn't mean to offend anyone, just venting some frustration I guess.' Don't worry, I doubt anyone took you too seriously.
alachlahol 05.07.12	this is pretty much the worst list ive ever seen
alachlahol 05.07.12	and why is hawks defending metal like he actually knows anything about it
alachlahol 05.07.12	also i see hollier is in here saying that hes not a metal elitsit hes just a race elitist
alachlahol 05.07.12	notice how the first band he commented on was WHITEchapel
Hawks 05.07.12	Hey look it's Alachlahol criticizing me once again even though in reality he doesn't know shit himself. What a surprise.
Tyrael 05.07.12	Hey guys remember when alachlahol used to be funny owait
TheSpirit 05.07.12	this list
OnlyAnchors 05.07.12	I kinda get where this dude is coming from. I mean look at the new ceremony album for example. All the mosh warriors will probably hate that album because of a lack of "PACK UR FISTS FULLA HATE" and will overlook the album just because they went a different direction.
Graveyard 05.07.12	list is crap
OnlyAnchors 05.07.12	did you actually listen to it or? because i think its a pretty natural direction to take after the covers ep and rohnert park
Motiv3 05.07.12	Ceremony suck anyway who cares.
Ire 05.07.12	go away hollier nobody cares
coneren 05.07.12	ire is gay
Motiv3 05.07.12	true story bro.
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	sup boneren.
coneren 05.07.12	nm just going to work i hope you all have nice days but not you ire
OnlyAnchors 05.07.12	hey man you dont HAVE to listen to anything to write a review. you can say " it sounds like 70's punk, i hate it." just like everyone else and put it in a review. im just saying that alot of people will dismiss albums because it sounds different from the first album
YankeeDudel 05.07.12	I only have 1 and 3 off this but listen to what you want to. Anybody who tries to tell you whats trve or not is a doosher with a small pecker.
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	korn nevr 4get
Ire 05.07.12	i am having a great day hi coneren
chambered69 05.07.12	hyperion likes deathcore he told me in secret but im letting the world know
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	oh no now my secret is out better go fix my gauges
chambered69 05.07.12	better laser off that dxc4life tat too man :/
Tyrael 05.07.12	I thought it was okay to like The Contortionist now
bloc 05.07.12	Music elitism is one of the most hilarious things ever conjured. Seeing it on Sputnik daily is just priceless.
YankeeDudel 05.07.12	ALL DAY I DREAM ABOUT SEX ALL DAY I DREAM ABOUT FUCKING Pure poetry Hype. You dont get it.
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	neither do you
YankeeDudel 05.07.12	Burn
chambered69 05.07.12	hyperion is mad because he lieks deathcore but doesnt want crysis or angel to find out
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	im more worried about riff he will b very mad
Palimpsest 05.07.12	There are elitists in every genre. To be fair though, most of these bands/albums are hated because they suck, not because of some genre distinction.
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Wolfhorde 05.07.12	Fuck Matt, I thought you were kvlt.
chambered69 05.07.12	he is kvlt he has long hair and wears black and goes to concerts with other long haired black wearing ppl
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	Black women also wear black and have long hair and go to concerts with other people. So your argument is invalid.
chambered69 05.07.12	black women tend to like black metal
Anthracks 05.07.12	KILL is considered an elitist now? Wow, how this site has fallen. Sad.
chambered69 05.07.12	hey what are u doing
Wolfhorde 05.07.12	unless Matt's also a strong black women who don't need no man.
paxman 05.07.12	This list is bookmarked for future reference.
YankeeDudel 05.07.12	@ Pal. Yea but you get elitism more with metal than any other genre Ive noticed. I guess Indie comes close, but they're not as hostile. By nature people who listen to metal are going to be more aggressive and protective of their genre. But basically it just comes down to people not really liking the more poppy forms of their music. Alot of punk/hardcore fans might not like pop/overproduced punk. Alot of Indie fans might not like the more indie pop stuff that gets airtime now. Black metal fans might not like COF or Dimmu. Metalcore fans might not like BFMV. 80s metal/thrash fans might not like hair metal. Its a common thread in all forms of music to me, but theres just so many genres of metal now so there seems to be some divide in the metal community.
ffs 05.07.12	actually the apocalypse will be the death of metal. read the fucken bible you idoites.
Shuyin 05.07.12	idoites
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	i am a strong black woman yes
YankeeDudel 05.07.12	Basically Im happy if I run into somebody outside of a metal concert who likes any form of metal at all, so its funny to me why there is so much infighting in the scene. Mainly just on the internet though by some 15 years olds who were told what to think. What I do know is that metalcore breathed new life into metal, so I dont get the complete hatred for it by some. It brought in millions of fans who might now be into other forms of metal. Metal is always going to need good "gateway" type bands if it wants to survive. Theres alot of shit bands in metalcore but theres alot of good ones too. Its no different than any other metal genre, and I try to listen to it all. Metalcore is just more out in the open.
YetAnotherBrick 05.07.12	i love this list. i used to be a stubborn, ignorant elitist myself. so glad i changed my ways.
MalleusMaleficarum 05.07.12	Continent is pretty good yeah and the Cleansing is okay but the rest of this sux
macman76 05.07.12	@yankee I feel the same way, i saw a girl with a 5fdp shirt and just smiled and told her it was a cool shirt
Trebor. 05.07.12	wow I've seen the light, this list changed me Why spend my life getting mad and haeting others? Thanks list maker
MalleusMaleficarum 05.07.12	http://youtu.be/QjBA1SSylJk
alachlahol 05.07.12	these are great gateway bands its how i started and look where i am now
Eulogize 05.07.12	hai guise go look at dunksman23's "My Favorite Deathcore Albums" list. A New Era Of Corruption is on there.
Evreaia 05.07.12	Elitism is over-exaggerated. It's mostly stupid people who can't deal with the opinions of others and can't argue to prove their own point, that's why they call the others elitist so that it's their fault instead of their own.
alachlahol 05.07.12	ok so what evreaia just said makes no sense whatsoever i dont give a crap about any of this all i know is im adding dunksman23 to facebook real soon
Evreaia 05.07.12	Makes sense, it's just a weird sentence.
Trebor. 05.07.12	I'm feel inadequate towards my terrible taste in music so I'm gonna make a list complaining about elitism to feel better about myself
Storm In A Teacup 05.07.12	Thrice > Metal
Vesper 05.07.12	^ ha
Hyperion1001 05.07.12	wonder why
Storm In A Teacup 05.07.12	Going to hell = Metal
YouGotLucky 05.07.12	your a fag bro hop[e u die
666IMPF2112 05.07.12	OP is a faggot
Emim 05.07.12	"Hey guys remember when alachlahol used to be funny owait" porch lite
Bloodhail 05.07.12	thanks for this laughs were had
chambered69 05.07.12	Its innovative , fun , simplistic and its specs are really low . BRING IT ON !
ILJ 05.07.12	I really wish I had read this before 150+ comments. Holy fuck the ignorance in this list is just....wow.
Recspecs 05.07.12	FUCCKKKKKKKK
Recspecs 05.07.12	I'm not even that big into metal, and all I can say is fuck you.
KILL 05.07.12	cool
DeafMetal 05.07.12	nice list
BarkHammer 05.07.12	It's always been a few good bands and a sea of shit. Always has been, always will be. Older metal fans naturally relate to older material and newer fans relate to newer material. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone but it's something of a general truth to a certain extent and of course people will chuck shit at each other but seriously there's bigger things to worry about in life. Move on and forger about them.
Katechon 05.07.12	WAAAH WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT ME AND MY SHITTY TASTE IN MUSIC?
AfterTheBreakdown 05.10.12	boo
Dashy 05.10.12	"The death of metal Or the death of your friends" Lol. This is my new favorite comment. Sounds like a motto to a movie or something. And lol BVB sucks because their music is ass, I don't give a rat's ass if they like cross-dressing.
DeafMetal 05.10.12	666
Calicula 05.11.12	Oh cool, most of the bands here are pretty good. I didn't know so much people hate them.
DeafMetal 05.11.12	lol
ultradevilgod 05.18.12	Bwahahaha! Just read this list! LOL By the way, there are good bands that sputnikmusic both loved and hated. BTBAM, Opeth, Meshuggah, Black Dahlia Murder...the list could go on.
DeafMetal 05.19.12	lol could it
BigBlob 02.03.14	Best list ever
Vakarian12 02.03.14	sims old account :D
ffs 02.03.14	i love to read my old posts i am so hecking funny
Gwyn. 02.03.14	I remember this list from when I first joined in my first account how nostalgic
ChopSuey 02.03.14	"just like whatever music you want. Who cares if it's "TRUE KVLT METAL" or "scene" or whatever. Just don't be a dumbass."[2] you people are mean