KjSwantko
01.10.18 | List are my biggest influences. Thanks in advance to whoever can help. |
bloc
01.10.18 | For your DAW, I think the best bets are Audacity or the trial version of Reaper (both are free). And I was about to recommend using a digital rig or a modeller (i.e. Axe Fx) but it looks like you have that covered as well.
I am only familiar with recording with a modeller, but I would assume Guitar Rig talks to your audio interface, and then the audio interface talks to Audacity so you can record, no? Because the way Axe Fx works is that it is both the guitar rig and the audio interface at the same time. So in a way, you are cutting out the middle man.
You also need to be aware of latency. Because it's human played guitar, you really want the latency to be as low as possible, and this can depend on your pc specs and so on. |
Beardog
01.10.18 | Yeah, you should use Reaper. If you can't record the record in 60 days you can always just buy it for 60 dollars. For drums and other stuff I'd just download the free version of Kontakt 5, there are drums in there that sound really decent if you mix them a little. I can do drumprogramming if you want, I already have all the samples ready. |
DinosaurJones
01.10.18 | commenting because I also need this advice. |
SCREAM!
01.10.18 | Those focusrites come with Ableton Lite don't they? Wouldn't that give you a bit more to play around with than Audacity? I've used audacity in the past but never Ableton so it's hard for me to say. I was recording on a Rock band mic plugged straight into my laptop as well so it was lofi af hahaha
I just got myself a Steinberg UR22 (which comes with Cubase LE as opposed to Ableton) and a Shure SM57 so I'll be faced with a similar learning curve soon. |
KjSwantko
01.10.18 | OK that's helpful, thanks. I would love to the the Axe FX but I will have to economical with funds for this, so guitar rig should be fine. What's your thoughts on software for adding drums into Audacity? Eventually they will be recorded acoustically, but for now I need to do it digitally. |
KjSwantko
01.10.18 | It did come with Ableton, I just assumed Audacity would be simpler, but I could be wrong in that assumption. ALso, I will look into Reaper if that is the consensus better product. Thanks for all the responses thus far. |
bloc
01.10.18 | Drums I have no experience with. Like Beardog mentioned, a free version of Kontakt can work. What I think is cool is to use a sequencer to draw and map out your entire drum track for the song. Then, you can export that as audio and load it into your DAW so your drum track is pretty much done and now you'd just play your guitar over top. |
SCREAM!
01.10.18 | Audacity is simpler and pretty easy to learn but you won't be able to do everything on it (like program drums for example).
Back when I had first started I think I had a trial version of FL and a free plugin (can't remember which now) that I used to create my drum tracks and then put those into audacity and recorded the rest of the parts over it. I'm hoping I can just do everything in Cubase now but haven't started trying to figure that out just yet |
Piglet
01.10.18 | Bloody pirate pro tools, spend a 1000 hours reading up and watching youtube techniques or whatever you feel is relevant to your interests and hey presto, you're plini mate well done. |
DungeonBoy
01.10.18 | How good is your computer?
You don't need to pirate pro tools, and you don't need to spend tons of money on a DAW. Download Reaper and use the trial version and if you like it, it's only $60. It will do everything you want to do and it's intuitive. It's also incredibly light on CPU use, and in my experience certain DAWs such as protools can eat up your processing power real quick. |
cold
01.10.18 | All you need is Windows 95 sound recorder |
soymilk13
01.10.18 | that and don't use anything focusrite. also try not being stupid |
KjSwantko
01.10.18 | OK I'll definitely go in the reaper direction then. Dungeon, do you have an opinion on best way to track drums vritually to import into Reaper? |
DungeonBoy
01.10.18 | Well.. yeah! but it's super anecdotal and might not apply. I used to write all of my drums using guitar pro because it was easier than editing using the piano roll in the DAW, I exported the drum midi from GP and imorted that into my DAW, and then used Toontracks Metal Machine as my virtual drums, which back then was one of the best sounding fake drums IMO. But it costs some money, and there might be pretty decent free ones out there.
You can also directly write the drum parts in the DAW if you have a digital drum vst. It might be easier in this case. No matter what you do there is a bit of a learning curve to writing your own digital drum parts. |
DinosaurJones
01.10.18 | Haha, I still use GP5... it's so handy, and I don't want to pay out the ass for the newer editions/learn how to use them. |
bloc
01.10.18 | Not gonna lie, pirating helps. |
GmemberKills
01.10.18 | Audacity is really only good for plug and play recording, you could definitely record a album with it, but it is pretty limited in features. If you are planning to program drums or use any other virtual instruments, I'd get a hold of a DAW like Fl Studio or Reaper as both are resource friendly and on the cheaper side.
As far as drums I too can vouch for Toontrack. EZdrummer 2 is user friendly, and has a really solid sound.
Your Focusrite is perfect for recording as well, yeah there are more expensive options, but most of those small audio interfaces do the same damn thing. I know people who have made awesome albums with less gear than that. |
cold
01.10.18 | "also try not being stupid"
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KjSwantko
01.10.18 | Sweet, I appreciate all the advice guys. I at least feel like I have an idea of where to start and what software to start learning. |
soymilk13
01.10.18 | "Your Focusrite is perfect for recording as well"
you have never recorded music |
GmemberKills
01.10.18 | Don't be afraid to record or experiment with audacity either, it's really fun to do demos and learn to record with. You could easily record some tracks to a metronome, and add some drum tracks later with a DAW. |
GmemberKills
01.10.18 | "you have never recorded music"
Fuck off. I'm all ears to hear why it isn't perfect for what they are trying to accomplish. I mean you can record directly with the focusrite, and use plenty of mid range dynamic microphones with it, what more do you need for someone just starting out?
I mean Elliott Smith recorded a classic album with a 4 track tape recorder, and my personal favorite artist has recorded all his albums with a single sm57. If he wants to upgrade his gear later he can, but don't paint a picture that he can't make something of quality with what he has.
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Astral Abortis
01.10.18 | If I can record an album with an iPhone and mix it in Garageband and still get it released through two labels, you can work with all the limitations you have currently. Take the advice of all these good people and record the best album you can - though I will say, you’ll probably have to ruin a few albums before you really understand what you’re doing. |
BlackwaterPork
01.10.18 | Using GarageBand made me want to fling myself into wall |
Sevengill
01.10.18 | take a photo of yourself in geisha makeup. record your shit on a hotel room phone's answering machine. play it back into a walkman. send the tape to a boutique label in Argentina. that's how I do it. |
Astral Abortis
01.10.18 | @Blckwater: why? It’s honestly a pretty easy to use program and even though it is the go-to for a shitty bedroom projects, it’s surprisingly deep and effective for a free program. I can’t imagine using anything else these days. |
swipenet
01.10.18 | Use your computer mic to record your shit, layer it in Audacity or some other freeware. If you want better sound, get a better mic. Done. |
ramon.
01.10.18 | “Audacity” “Axe Fx” holy shit hahahaha |
swipenet
01.10.18 | Fuckin' PRANKED XD |
bloc
01.11.18 | GOT EM! XD |
Beardog
01.11.18 | I don't see what is wrong with Garageband. The real issues I have with the program is that you can only put in 6 effects on a track and that mastering is a pain in the ass, but it's a free program! You can basically use anything to record and make music, just depends on what you want the final outcome to be. |
Sevengill
01.11.18 | "You can basically use anything to record and make music, just depends on what you want the final outcome to be."
this forever |
hasan
01.11.18 | do it as hard as you and put it on the site. do it and then we can here it and give a score. as long as you put heart into the songs it is good |
Sevengill
01.11.18 | idk man, Black Malachite took about six albums to go from trying to succeeding |
hasan
01.11.18 | some rap some dub step he would not do a pop CD even if i asked hey do a pop cd |