savagecabbage
04.18.11 | Dude for some reason your profile pic has me lmao. |
Dodenakker
04.18.11 | Don't think Veil of Maya is Deathcore.. is it |
bloc
04.18.11 | BOO |
Dodenakker
04.18.11 | And yes that picture is funny :P |
promiseswept
04.18.11 | get ABRB off this list |
dnor
04.18.11 | I literally made a list to rec to people that make lists like this, but I deleted it today. Oh well...
and yes VoM is tech. deathcore.
1, 3, (new) 6, 7 (Price of Existance) are all decent bands.
the rest is complete garbage. |
TheSpirit
04.18.11 | pretty much
you check out Incarpathia |
dnor
04.18.11 | Whoa Nick....
eh, actually, for the amount of shit bands in the genre, that's actually probably true. Plus, the "good" deathcore bands are usually classified as something else. The Faceless, The Contortionist, Bleed From Within, Glass Casket....they all get placed in different genres to Genre Elitists. |
promiseswept
04.18.11 | agreed. plus new carnifex is good ;) |
dnor
04.18.11 | Never giving Carnifex a shot. EVER. |
lucasjcockcroft
04.18.11 | upon a burning body should be here |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | Basically everything that dnor said. Plus, never listening to carnifex is something that I should have done |
promiseswept
04.18.11 | awww hell chose me is good times. especially "dead archetype" |
FearThyEvil
04.18.11 | 3,6, and 7 is about it and 3 isn't that great and 6 is only good for their new album. |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | I disagree, but to each his own |
Motiv3
04.18.11 | lack of the red chord, glass casket and the contortionist. You pretty much listed the shit end of deathcore except BOO. |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | just tell me one thing
why would you choose to listen to deathcore over death metal |
promiseswept
04.18.11 | malleus- no way brah, jfac isn't even deathcore anymore
and new whitechapel is good, listen to it |
dnor
04.18.11 | i didn't choose helllllll
HELL. CHOSE. MEEEEEEEEEE |
promiseswept
04.18.11 | dan- that's what up. they are getting a lot better, sorrowspell is a sick song too |
Hawks
04.18.11 | All Shall Perish is the only deathcore band that really matters at all. |
dnor
04.18.11 | FearThyEvil, Motiv3, whoa, I agree with your comments EXCEPT the fact Hester Prynne is actually pretty good. and Fear, yep you're right, only boo's NEW album is good.
Malleus - Not that this is my list or anything, but let me shed light on it. Some people enjoy Deathcore over Death Metal because as abundantly over used and cliche they are, breakdowns are fun to headbang to.
Promises - No. No Whitechapel is good. NONE OF IT. (No metal band needs 3 guitarists, especially when it's a deathcore metal band.) |
FearThyEvil
04.18.11 | All Shall Perish is the only deathcore band that really matters at all.
Mostly true but Glass Casket and The Contortionist give them some competition. |
FearThyEvil
04.18.11 | Dnor I never heard Hester Prynne before so I wasn't basing off them just the rest of them. |
Hawks
04.18.11 | The Contortionist is good, but not good enough to change my opinion on deathcore. No deathcore album, other than The Price of Existence, has ever gotten more than a 3.5 from me and probably never will. I'm not counting The Red Chord or The Faceless as deathcore either, like some people do. |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | That was meant for promiseswept. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Here, I'll just type up a quick Rec's list....
The Contortionist - Exoplanet
The Faceless - Akeldama (More deathcore than Planetary Duality, but both albums are good)
Glass Casket - Desperate Man's Diary
Bleed from Within - Humanity
Necrophagist - Epitaph |
Hawks
04.18.11 | Epitaph is not deathcore in any way and Akeldama is pretty bland. |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | I never really looked at necrophagist as deathcore. Always thought they were tech death |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | Damn, ignore what I just said. |
FearThyEvil
04.18.11 | The Contortionist is good, but not good enough to change my opinion on deathcore. No deathcore album, other than The Price of Existence, has ever gotten more than a 3.5 from me and probably never will. I'm not counting The Red Chord or The Faceless as deathcore either, like some people do.
I agree The Faceless and The Red Chord are more along the lines of tech-death. |
Hawks
04.18.11 | Yeah Necrophagist is just tech death. Not deathcore at all. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Epitaph is deathcore in the sense that they deviated from the common death metal feel they went for in Onset, and took up a much more progressive feel, which gives it a similar feel to other tech/prog death bands, making them closer and more accessible to fans of deathcore. (but you did do a good job of proving my point that good bands that could fit into deathcore categories are getting placed in different genres to preserve their name by elitists Hawks...)
also, I like Akeldama. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Typed up this last wall of text after "Epitaph is not deathcore in any way"
so realize that I agree with you to avoid conflict here. |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | "Malleus - Not that this is my list or anything, but let me shed light on it. Some people enjoy Deathcore over Death Metal because as abundantly over used and cliche they are, breakdowns are fun to headbang to."
jesus fucking christ |
Hawks
04.18.11 | But Necrophagist isn't deathcore. They're just not in any way, shape, or form. They're just straight-up technical death metal. |
Hawks
04.18.11 | And don't worry, there's no conflict lol. It's all good. |
dnor
04.18.11 | I tend to lean more towards Tech Death and Death Metal than Deathcore Malleus, so don't go getting ideas that I shun music without breakdowns, please...
also Hawks, no-where in my rec's list did I say THESE ARE GOOD DEATHCORE bands. I was making a rec's list to get him out of the mindset that 8-12 are bands that make "Good music". I was simply making a rec's list he'd probably enjoy, and I chose Epitaph because the prog/tech death sound they go for is more accessible from the deathcore sound than if I told him to go listen to Onset.
relax broski |
Hawks
04.18.11 | I'm relaxed man lol. I just figured you were giving him deathcore recs, so I didn't want him to be mislead. It's all good. |
dixoncocks
04.18.11 | "Akeldama is pretty bland."
WUT
Day of Mourning shits on 10 of these. |
dnor
04.18.11 | yeah dixon, I agree, with a starter track like An Autopsy, how are you not instantly hooked? |
dixoncocks
04.18.11 | Haha i spent like 2 hours trying to perfect the into on drums, but my hands dont work that fast :( |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | user DNOR... im facepalming intensely because you continue to imply that in order to hear breakdowns you need to listen to deathcore. In reality, the breakdowns utilized on most deathcore albums are just dumbed down versions of death metal breakdowns..
Most of the top death metal albums have some great breakdowns. |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | BREAKDOWNS BREAKDOWNS BREAKDOWNS
etc |
dnor
04.18.11 | I don't remember which drummer actually recorded on An Autopsy, if it was Nick Pierce, Brett Batdorf, or Lyle Cooper....but whichever drummer it was, they were beastly. |
dnor
04.18.11 | To be honest, Malleus, I bring up breakdowns because the stereotype of the breakdowns I refer to are the, as you so perfectly put it, "dumbed down versions". INTENSE GROWL, BASS DROP, CHUG CHUG CHUG....where as the technicality behind a "death metal breakdown" is that of an intensely heavy riff and not a simplistic "JUN JUN JUN RAWR" that is easier to...how should I put this....understand(?) |
Satellite
04.18.11 | protip: troll 1-ing entire discogs is a good way to get yr ratings deleted |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | i love you man |
dixoncocks
04.18.11 | i agree with dnor, when bands like for today break it down its not in the same ballpark as say a beneath the massacre or all shall perish breakdown. |
dnor
04.18.11 | I hope you do...because I'm completely on your side of this DEATH METAL > DEATHCORE argument. You just have to understand that a person that likes Suicide Silence, Carnifex, and Chelsea Grin are probably not going to respect the "Breakdowns" of bands such as Death, Immolation, or Nile. |
bowlofsoup
04.18.11 | Assuming that they even notice a breakdown by any of the bands you just named. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Read the post before my last post. Sums that issue up nicely |
sspedding
04.18.11 | Bleed From Within [2] |
twlight
04.18.11 | UPON A BURNING BODY!!!!
COME ON MANG!!!!!! |
Motiv3
04.18.11 | the faceless are tech death not deathcore. |
MalleusMaleficarum
04.18.11 | UPON A BURNING FAIL BAND |
dnor
04.18.11 | Fuck off motiv3. Lol
And Steven, you like bleed from within? Thought I was the only one... |
sspedding
04.18.11 | Yeah mate, I prefer the newer release to Humanity but yeah I like them both. |
dnor
04.18.11 | The one thing I like about them is that they keep getting better with each release |
sspedding
04.18.11 | Yeah man, agree totally. Empire was an altogether more mature release and The Healing and The Last Of Our Kind were absolutely awesome. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Idk tho, still have a sweet spot for let's play god off of their "plague" ep lol |
Motiv3
04.18.11 | hahaha sorry dnor, had to correct you ;). |
dnor
04.18.11 | My rec list was music accessible from a deathcore mindset to get him away from genericore bands like whitchapel, suicide silence, Chelsea grin, and carnifex |
dnor
04.18.11 | Nah nick, you haven't.
Deathcore is FAR from my main stream of enjoyed music. I'd take fugazi over any deathcore band any day |
Motiv3
04.18.11 | ah i see, fair enough dnor, my bad xD. |
dnor
04.18.11 | Technically I listen to technical death metal... |
dnor
04.18.11 | What? You don't like tech death? |
witchxrapist
04.18.11 | whisteria cottage, fuck yeah |
dnor
04.18.11 | nick, go make a drink. sit down, cool off, then come back and talk to me. you're obviously in a bad mood |
HaydenDyson
04.18.11 | 1, 2 , 3 , 4 ,5 , 8 ,9 ect... are bad |
dixoncocks
04.18.11 | Dude with real time approval ratings sucks ass |
witchxrapist
04.18.11 | 3 & 11 = win, 4, 7, and 10 have a good release each
REALITY |
witchxrapist
04.18.11 | "Dude with real time approval ratings sucks ass"
yeah, dude's kind of a huge doucher |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Anyway, this is my opinion. Sorry I can't please everyone on Sputnik but I still love you guys. |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Oh and I forgot about I Shot the Sheriff, but they're really unknown. |
TheSpirit
04.19.11 | Check out Incarpathia |
LepreCon
04.19.11 | Deafbore |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Is it just this band that has the awful production quality or the file? This is ridiculously bad quality but sounds really good. How sweet LepreCon, love you too. |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | @dnor, how come people that listen to death metal try to get the kids that listen to deathcore out of the phase? I mean, I KNOW for a fact that me listening to deathcore is a phase because I'm already moving into some death metal territory and straying away from the deathcore genre. |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Changed 9 and 12 because I forgot about those two bands. |
TheSpirit
04.19.11 | If you were addressing me Eulogize, the production is fine it may just be the file you downloaded. |
dnor
04.19.11 | I'm in no way trying to get you OUT of the deathcore phase, I'm just trying to open your eyes to bands that have actual talent in them outside of the stereotyped "deathcore" genre of insanely generic music. Hence why I offered you music accessible to your musical pallet based on the fact you do, indeed, listen to deathcore. If I cam in here spouting off OSDM recs, or even straight new school death metal bands, you'd probably have a harder time transitioning out of this genre.
think of my rec's as stuff close to what you like, but also help expanding your musical horizons. |
Apollo
04.19.11 | agreed with everyone who says the profile pic is hilarious |
dnor
04.19.11 | see you added Thy Art Is Murder. What a shame of a band...they have a SHIT ton of talent, but choose to stay in the genericore catagory.
still, they have an increased level of brutality, if that's all you're listening to this genre for, so I'll give you that much. |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Yes, I was talking about Incarpathia. They sound really good but the file quality is really bad. It was the only zip file I could find because I'm at school on our MacBooks so I'll have to wait until I get home to download them in better quality (hopefully.) |
Apollo
04.19.11 | arguments about deathcore = retarded |
TheSpirit
04.19.11 | There's better quality out there but I'm glad you're enjoying what you heard. |
patman1001
04.19.11 | 99.9% of deathcore is complete garbage. (2) |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Well I honestly listen to music almost solely on the fact of the vocals. When I listen to music the first thing I look for is good vocals. If there are amazing instruments but the vocals aren't good, I won't listen to it at all. Take Thy Art is Murder for example, their old vocalist was one of the genre's best vocalists in my opinion. They dropped him in The Adversary, I didn't listen to the album at all because the vocals are generic.
I'm also listening to some death metal bands like The Black Dahlia Murder, Brain Drill, Ingested, Wretched and Within the Ruins. It's just the old school death metal bands I absolutely cannot get into at all, it may be because I care so much for the vocals and the vocals just aren't very good. |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | Thanks for the comment Thirty, appreciate it. |
flalafell
04.19.11 | the contortionist is really the only deathcore you need |
Eulogize
04.19.11 | I hear so much talk about The Contortionist. Any fans of The Contortionist please recommend me their best album
because I want a good first impression. |
flalafell
04.19.11 | exoplanet |
witchxrapist
04.19.11 | Yo threadstarter kid:
Dead Man In Reno & Embrace The End
Also, The Contortionist's Shapeshifter EP > both their albums. |
Winsomniac
04.19.11 | DR. ACULA! |
TheSpirit
04.19.11 | "I'm also listening to some death metal bands like The Black Dahlia Murder, Brain Drill, Ingested, Wretched and Within the Ruins. It's just the old school death metal bands I absolutely cannot get into at all, it may be because I care so much for the vocals and the vocals just aren't very good."
Dude, OSDM is the fucking way to go and (imo) much better and diverse than deathcore. Check out Defaced Creation - Serenity in Chaos for some OSDM with fucking killer vocals. |
fr33convict
04.19.11 | "Also, The Contortionist's Shapeshifter EP > both their albums."
Sometimes you say the stupidest things mappy. |
witchxrapist
04.19.11 | Nah dude, I just really fucking love The Contortionist's EP, and their new stuff isn't deathcore.
Seriously though, when deathcore is done right, it's my favorite type of metal (go figure), and Shapeshifter is straight up some of the best deathcore aside from Empires (Animosity) and Dead Man In Reno's self titled album. |
witchxrapist
04.19.11 | Like, Exoplanet and Apparition are really well done albums, but Shapeshifter seems a lot for cohesive, and I really prefer the old singer. |
TheSpirit
04.19.11 | Animosity does rule |
witchxrapist
04.19.11 | Indeed, and how does this list not have Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Graves Of Valor, or Despised Icon? |
climactic
04.19.11 | 3,6,7 are good |
ShinXetsu
04.19.11 | I actually like JFAC (Well, their latest album atleast. I can only listen to bits and pieces of their other stuff without hitting the skip button.). Besides that I don't really care for deathcore nor do I see why people (mostly high school teens I see around) think it's the hottest shit ever. |
witchxrapist
04.19.11 | Job For A Cowboy never had any hardcore in their sound.
Doom is awesome though, Ruination is cool but it's not JFAC without Ravi and Andy, let's be honest. |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | @ShinXetsu, it's not that I think it's the "hottest shit ever," it's the fact that I'm going through a deathcore phase and I'll be out of it soon because I'm already moving into death metal territory like I said earlier. Also, when I listed Job for a Cowboy I was referring to Doom because that's their only deathcore album.
Once again Spirit, I'll have to wait until I get home to download Defaced Creation because there are no zip files at all to download for them.
And I downloaded Contortionist's Exoplanet album and I did not like it all that much. |
dixoncocks
04.20.11 | Animosity[7] |
dnor
04.20.11 | Eulogize, I'll say it again. If you like deathcore, check out my list of albums to check out. They might not be deathcore, but they're accessible. You'll enjoy all of them. I'll post the list again.
The Faceless - Akeldama
Glass Casket - Desperate Man's Diary
Bleed from Within - Humanity
Necrophagist - Epitaph |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | I already have Akeldama, sick album. I'll go ahead and download the other bands though and see what I think of them. |
Satellite
04.20.11 | just out of morbid curiosity, why in god's name did you listen to both brokencyde's and botdf's entire dicogs? |
tkxxx7
04.20.11 | some user tried to tell me that the contortionist and BOO were my best best for instrumental post-hardcore, metalcore and/or emo |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | Lmao Satellite, I would feel bad (and I think it's against the rules) to just give them all ones. So I did my part and
listened to them so I can give them ones.
@dnor, can't find a zip file for Glass Casket's Desperate Man's Diary but Bleed From Within are definitely not what I'm
into. I could see myself getting into Necrophagist for their technicality but I did not enjoy Bleed From Within at all. |
dnor
04.20.11 | eh, bleed from within were the only true deathcore band on the list.
and i'll link you a file for glass casket on your shoutbox |
Emim
04.20.11 | Animosity.
1 and 7 are the only worthwhile bands on the list, imo. |
Emim
04.20.11 | And desperate man's diary really isn't as deathcore as we are gathered here today... |
dnor
04.20.11 | yeah, Emim's right, but it's still a killer album.
Do what I do...I listen to rec's. If I love the music, I get the discography of the band. |
Emim
04.20.11 | Generally a good idea. |
dnor
04.20.11 | Also, Mimsy, I love that you stick up for 1. Me and you are probably the only people that do. |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | Hester Prynne is by far one of the most talented deathcore bands out today and yet everyone brushes them off. |
Emim
04.20.11 | Everyone brushes off deathcore as a whole, so it doesn't really bother me.
If I like music, I listen to it. Simple as that. |
dnor
04.20.11 | I agree. mims...
listen to what you like. I can be listening to indie/folk one second, then switch to deathcore, and by the end of the afternoon have Wu-Tang bumping in my car. Listen to what you like, not what sputnik likes. |
dnor
04.20.11 | x3ni, I rec'd him BFW, but he didn't like them. Too bad :/ |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | I'm the same way. I don't care the genre, if it's good, I'll listen. I recently got into Fun's Aim and Ignite (indie pop band) and I told a few of my "br00tal" friends about them because I enjoy the band a lot and they generally like the same stuff I do and all of them told me it was garbage and so was the genre. You can't base a whole genre off of one band.
Also dnor, I need a zip file for the band because I'm on my school's MacBook right now, but I will download it when I get home from school. |
Eulogize
04.20.11 | I've only heard a couple songs from From the Shallows but what I heard was good. But I'm not going to put them in with my favorite bands just because a couple of their songs were good. |
dnor
04.20.11 | The reason I like them so much is the degree of improvement from their eps, through humanity, into empire. They are just a band that show a lot of promise...a band that's maturing in an extremely immature genre... Bleed from Within is proving it can be done. |
SexPanther
04.20.11 | 4; lol |
Defeater
04.20.11 | deathcore on my sputnik?
back to rush |
Minortimbo12
08.14.23 | I like to resurrect random pages |