Devastator
11.08.19 | I've heard that there's a bunch of tiny details and features that don't serve much purpose. |
Pikazilla
11.08.19 | The general consensus seems to be that it's very tedious and non-engaging. You are effectively a postman in a post-apocalyptic world. |
Devastator
11.08.19 | I read that a lot. Apparently you have to make sure you traverse normal ground carefully so your cargo doesn't fall over. |
Pikazilla
11.08.19 | Yes. And your boots get worn out too. And if your cargo falls over while it's raining, it degrades too. Fuckin' hell. |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.08.19 | Am sceptical of the backlash, sounds like a slow burn with a lot of thought put in. Will hopefully play it soonish |
CugnoBrasso
11.08.19 | Having watched the entire Satantango all at once when I was 17, I am now immune to boredom. I'm playing the game right now and I'm enjoying it. |
Tundra
11.08.19 | From my view on it so far, HORRIBLE/FUCKING BORING gameplay, good and interesting story, basically, Kojima should have made just a movie instead, cause this "games" gameplay is fucking ASS, seriously |
Demon of the Fall
11.08.19 | I may be a total sad act, but the little nuances that seem tedious af kind of appeal to me, in theory. Colour me intrigued, my interest is certainly piqued anyway. Depends how it actually plays out in reality. |
Devastator
11.08.19 | The story is what interests me the most. Kojima with blank universe to create stuff is exciting. |
Tundra
11.08.19 | although the story is decent so far though, there is a LARGE reliance on shock value in basically every scene (ones that make you go WOAH OMG WHAT WAS THAT?!?!?) and it is way overused even in my short time playing the game |
trilo
11.08.19 | game looks dreadful honestly. tedium overkill |
EyesWideShut
11.08.19 | its like American Truck Simulator but walking |
Source
11.08.19 | bet this is good |
trilo
11.08.19 | "its like American Truck Simulator but walking"
the truck sim games are cozy though. this doesn't look cozy at all |
EyesWideShut
11.08.19 | "the truck sim games are cozy though. this doesn't look cozy at all"
cozy as being trapped in a high tech refrigerator |
trilo
11.08.19 | brrrrrrr |
CugnoBrasso
11.08.19 | I have no idea what everyone's talking about, I'm loving the gameplay so far. |
Rowhaus
11.08.19 | somehow I just knew this would be disappointing |
Gallantin
11.09.19 | Game is incredible. Loving every moment of it. The moment-by-moment gameplay is a relaxing exercise. I hear a lot of reviewers complain about falling over constantly -- I haven't fallen over once. I imagine if you run a lot and don't take the time to hold your cargo over unsteady terrain you may fall a lot.
Each expedition in this game is like a drone track. I may or may not be writing a lengthy essay on this comparison. |
Gallantin
11.09.19 | Also from my experience, nothing Tundra has said about the story so far seems to be true. Most of the generally sparse cutscenes are long bits of exposition, which is common for Kojima. I haven't seen any "shock value" stuff. |
Gallantin
11.09.19 | You're missing out on a very good game that creates dense experiences out of mapping expeditions, forging unique paths, and helping other players more easily traverse harder paths. It's sort of like mapping the perfect stealth route in a Metal Gear Solid game. There's a certain thrill to finding the most efficient route. |
Gallantin
11.09.19 | Well, your decision to get it or not is your own. But the quality is immaculate, and the game is not nearly as tedious as detractors would have you believe.
Let me put it this way: if you enjoy sneaking around in MGS at a snail's pace and mapping guard locations and finding smart routes through dense areas, this game will appeal to you. |
Larkinhill
11.09.19 | I actually just bought a PS4 and am contemplating whether to pick this up or not. |
Stormheart
11.09.19 | it will be one of the best games ever made |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | Drake sad: blowing £60 to become a virtual deliveroo driver
Drake glad: blowing £50 to get pre order orange light saber in jedi fallen order |
Pikazilla
11.09.19 | Never trust EA until the actual release. Have your learnt nothing from the past few years? |
Pikazilla
11.09.19 | Also comparing this to truck simulator is pretty accurate. Except the truck is on fire and shit's constantly falling out and the roads and bridges are dilapidated and there's some ghastly shit trying to kill the driver |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | "Never trust EA until the actual release. Have your learnt nothing from the past few years?"
this is a safe release |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | the worst they can do is add microtransactions d1 (and i don't think they will) and i don't really care anyway cos im still gonna play the shit out of it
also i havent pre ordered a game since like pokemon diamond so allow me blud as we say across the puddle |
Pikazilla
11.09.19 | Remember Anthem? Yeah, that went very well. |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | anthem was always gonna be a pile of shit so please get off me. i've read and absorbed enough over the last week to believe this is gonna be a very solid release |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | i#ll 5 a7x's discog if it isn't |
Pikazilla
11.09.19 | I'll hold you to that. The preview gameplay videos do look dope. |
anarchistfish
11.09.19 | https://www.reddit.com/r/FallenOrder/comments/dszvv2/pretty_sure_i_wont_be_able_to_play_yet_but_at/f6umeig/ |
teamster
11.09.19 | 3rd person games can take a suck... |
Demon of the Fall
11.09.19 | I have zero interest in that Star Wars game, bet it’s all style and no substance. Damn I miss the KOTOR games. |
Source
11.09.19 | don't support anything star wars related kids, it's bad |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | my ass |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | im more hyped for this game than the new movie |
Source
11.10.19 | understandable |
GhostB1rd
11.10.19 | Isn't this mid 80s on Metacritic? How is that a failure? |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | the last jedi effect |
Gallantin
11.10.19 | Demon, you know that Chris Avellone, lead writer for KOTOR 2, is the writer for the new Star Wars game, right? If you miss KOTOR, this game may be your only chance of getting that type of quality back. |
Devastator
11.10.19 | I would love for EA to lose the Star Wars license and EA let other developers make SW games. Could you imagine a CD Projekt Red Star Wars RPG? |
Gallantin
11.10.19 | I'd rather a CD Projekt Red new IP, but Cyberpunk will have to do. I guess it's a new take on an old and relatively unused IP.
Kill Star Wars. Just kill it. It doesn't deserve any life any more. |
WhiteNoise
11.10.19 | Well I’ve managed to put more time into this game in two days than I have with Outer worlds and Borderlands 3 in two weeks.
Fantastic game so far. It reminds me of all those amazing TV shows that you have no idea what’s going on but you watch it week after week because it sucks you in. |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | > first single player star wars in like 10 yes
> Needs to die |
Gallantin
11.10.19 | I mean Star Wars as an IP, not the new game. I mean people need to stop making Star Wars-based ANYTHING. |
rabidfish
11.10.19 | Fuck Star wars
DS looks weird but cool. Never had any interest in Kojima games, so idunno, but characters and story look cool |
Space Jester
11.10.19 | I was really looking forward to seeing more of that Star Wars 1313 game before Disney decided to kill all of the Lucasarts projects. The new game could have a good story but the gameplay I’ve seen doesn’t look very interesting. |
Tundra
11.10.19 | "Well I’ve managed to put more time into this game in two days than I have with Outer worlds and Borderlands 3 in two weeks."
Man I agree with that, there's just nothing about Borderlands 3 for me that gives me the desire to finish it |
teamster
11.10.19 | Too bad if I even wanted to play this it wouldn’t be for another 6 months. By then this game will be dead in the dirt. |
foxblood
11.10.19 | looks awful. I love mgs tho. I wish silent hills happened, SH is my favorite series |
Space Jester
11.10.19 | “Too bad if I even wanted to play this it wouldn’t be for another 6 months. By then this game will be dead in the dirt.”
What does it matter if a game came out yesterday or 20 years ago
I think too many people are judging this game based on what they want or think it should be rather than what it is. I have no idea if it’ll be good or not but it just seems so bizarre that I can’t help but be intrigued |
Space Jester
11.10.19 | Silent Hills was doomed from the beginning |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | "I mean Star Wars as an IP, not the new game. I mean people need to stop making Star Wars-based ANYTHING."
just give me Kotor 3 and im happy |
Emim
11.10.19 | It looks insanely tedious. |
robotmagician
11.10.19 | I don’t know if it’s “fun” exactly, at least so far, but i’m kinda loving the game so far. some of the cutscenes are super gripping as well. interesting game and looking forward to sinking more hours into it. I can 10000000% see why a huge amount of people would hate it though |
DrGonzo1937
11.10.19 | i'm 30 hours into it and how people are calling it a masterpiece is beyond me. 90% of the game is a fetch quest, whilst constantly trying to make sure Norman doesn't fall on his ass. The missions themselves are so damn lazy and repetitive. I'm literally seeing this through to the end because of its story, because the gameplay, frankly, is terrible. |
Space Jester
11.10.19 | Honestly the lack of combos and them taking out the style system completely has put me off quite a bit, also I can’t figure out how to taunt |
Source
11.10.19 | "The missions themselves are so damn lazy and repetitive."
so it's a continuation of the phantom pain |
DrGonzo1937
11.10.19 | Basically Source. The difference is that MGSV was at least fun to play. |
Source
11.10.19 | dang |
R4zor3dge
11.10.19 | Ouch... |
anarchistfish
11.10.19 | i can imagine a sort of scenic inventory management game could be cool in theory. there's an avenue for appeal but if you fuck it up you end up with a tedious mess. farmville was a hit. you'd need a spaceship at least. or just make it like the sims and make the currency condoms. little flourishes like that |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | All the haters in here have shit taste in gamez |
Space Jester
11.11.19 | They probably loved Bioshock Infinite |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | 100% guaranteed they loved Bioshock Infinite
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autoNamed
11.11.19 | Put 20 hours in so far and am really into it. It's pure unrestrained madness... i can't believe this game was actually made. |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | "All the haters in here have shit taste in gamez"
as opposed to people who love walking simulators? |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Death Stranding isn't a walking simulator, at least not in the sense that term was actually created from. A lot of Death Stranding's gameplay may be in literal physical navigation, but it's not just like pressing forward on the analogue stick and calling it a day. And also, thinking the game is nothing but walking is silly. If anything, this game has too many stealth and combat sections for what I want out of it. It's not that far removed from any other action title, at least not as much as random reviewers would have you believe. |
Faraudo
11.11.19 | This game is awesome, and more AAA companies should take the risk and make stuff like this. |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | @Gallantin
lol i think we played different games. ALL this game is is walking and driving with the occasional bit of stealth -- take the thing from point A to point B. the only time the game gets interesting is when Mads Mikkelsen comes into the fray. i think the only reason people are losing their load over this is because of the fact it's hideo. if anyone else had made this it would be openly criticized. i love the world and story, but in terms of gameplay this is such a step back. all of the main missions feel like side missions, making the thought of doing the side missions unbearable |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | You guys calling it a walking simulator pft smh, it's obviously an Amazon delivery simulator |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | "If anything, this game has too many stealth and combat sections"
we definitely played a different game |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | The game IS openly criticised. Don't pull weak shit like "people only like it bc it says Kojima". That's not criticism
That's weak deflection.
The game's moment by moment traversal is engaging and wonderful to experience. I absolutely love plotting out multiple routes around timefall locations and spans of time, using the map to figure out what types of terrain I'll be crossing and which tools I'll need most, being able to find optimal routes around or through MULE camps, etc. It's absolutely sublime the way the game has stripped back traditional action gameplay and turned the mere act of area traversal into a considered and challenging experience. One time I got chased by MULEs into a bad part of the map and had to scale a cliff in timefall with only two ladders and getting to the top, ran into a timefall shelter built by someone else on the server, which allowed me just BARELY to save the package I was delivering. It was exhilerating and I've waited so long for a game to emulate the "journey" like this game does. As I said earlier, Death Stranding is like a drone album. It's repetitive and considered and it takes what other genres would consider a base for the music/gameplay and turns it into its own exploratory experience. Seeing the way it changes laterally rather than vertically into forced climaxes, it's a surreal experience getting to the end of a long trek and the climax is just a quiet stroll into a waystation to drop off some cargo.
But again, I've always been into slow and considered gameplay. It's why I like to play the Souls games in heavy armour with a shield. It's why in MGS games I always focus on pure, excessively slow non-lethal stealth. This is EXACTLY my jam. And I feel like the game is somewhat too padded with MULE camps just to fuel faux-excitement for those who want action. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | I'll link my article comparing Death Stranding to drone music when it's finished so everyone can laugh at me |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Not to mention the asymmetrical online is by far the best version of this idea we've ever seen. I've always felt that the Souls series asymmetrical online stuff, while damn ingenious and pioneering, was never perfected. Well, as far as I'm concerned, Death Stranding has perfected it. Nothing beats the feeling of coming across a ladder or shelter or generator or road laid down by another player just in the exact right spot you need it, and it encourages you to go out and go through harsh areas solely with the focus of creating new paths for other people in order to make it easier for them. It's a brilliant system. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Anyone saying shit like "fetch quests" has their mind in gutter. This is not an RPG. There are no fetch quests. You are not meant to be seeking extrinsic rewards here. The game is entirely focused on intrinsic rewards related to experiential gameplay. I'm gonna remember the experience far more than i'm gonna remember some skinner box faux-reward system. People these days have had their minds flayed by modern AAA game standards, I swear.
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Gyromania
11.11.19 | We get it bro, you're a massive fan of Kojima and will defend his Amazon delivery service simulator to the bitter end |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | I don't consider myself a specific fan of Kojima. I'm pretty openly critical of a few of his games. That's why I avoid referring to Kojima, I just refer to the games themselves. I mean I hate MGS Peace Walker, and I'm quite negative in regards to the majority of MGS2 gameplay-wise. I get no great enjoyment out of Zone of the Enders, I think Snatcher and Policenauts aren't really standouts of their genre, though they're not bad. And I also think Metal Gear 1 and 2 suffer a lot of garbage design decisions that plagued games of that era.
I just like the games that I like, I have no interest in putting Kojima on a pedastal. I have plenty of issues with Death Stranding, too, just not the issues everyone else seems to have. I think the cutscenes rely way too much on exposition (ESPECIALLY for a Kojima game), I think the game focuses too hard on trying to force action setpieces with an overabundance of MULE camps and lacklustre boss battles. I think the game definitely is way too far up Norman Reedus' ass, just look at any gameplay from the private room. The game has issues, but those issues aren't in its main systems or its world traversal. |
ramon.
11.11.19 | Mmm yea I'm enjoying the core gameplay loop. What's happening on screen might look mundane but I find you are constantly being forced to make meaningful decisions. You get rewarded for strategizing. It isn't a case of "hold W and click heads". The level to which the environment plays a part in survival (or lack thereof) also prevents stuff like exploiting AI less of a comfort.
And, well, it's the only game of its ilk right now. There are certainly many inventory management heavy games out there but few that give near-constant feedback regarding the alterations you make. You are made to feel every tiny decision you make constantly. Regardless of what aesthetic package that kind of gameplay comes in, I find that to be a very impressive feat, and especially for a single player title where you aren't having to adapt to other players in a direct, head-on sense. |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | Zone of the Enders is awesome wtf |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | It's alright. |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | "Don't pull weak shit like "people only like it bc it says Kojima". That's not criticism"
i dont need to. i could criticize this thing all day without stating the blind fandom. and you can sugarcoat the mundane gameplay as "an experience" all you want, but at the end of the day the game boils down to offering nothing more than side-mission grade missions. i literally did a mission last night that annoyed the hell out of me: go up a mountain and meet a hologram, go down the mountain to meet another hologram, only to have that hologram send you back up the mountain again to delivery a thing. how is that satisfying? honestly, that shit wouldn't fly with anyone other than hideo, if this is what it was offering for main missions.
im an open-minded player as well, i love things that are different, but its just the same thing all the time. the production values are obviously there, the story is great, and the online aspects are meaningful and well executed, but the gameplay is so self-indulgent it fails to be fun. this is hideo being given free reign and it bloody well shows. the mgs games had him on a leash and theyre better games for it. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Again, "wouldn't fly with anyone other than hideo" is the dumbest criticism you could possibly levy at the game. At least pretend like you're just unimpressed and/or disappointed on your own part, don't try to unload your dissatisfaction with something as somebody else's failure to be dissatisfied, too. |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | at what point have i pretended to be anything other than disappointed and unimpressed? Im merely pointing out that if anyone else had made a game like this, you can bet your ass it would be strung for its mechanics |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Dissapointed and unimpressed *on your own part*, on your own end. Again, stop trying to hang your own dissatisfaction on the lack of dissatisfaction from others. You're manufacturing reasons for why you're enlightened and unbiased like it's some kind of objective truth that if the exact same game came from any other development studio on the planet, then everybody would be as enlightened as you, unrestrained by the shackles of *checks notes* enjoying a video game. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Hate the game all you want, lambast it forever, criticise it as harshly as you like, just stop being a little bitch about it. |
BigBlob
11.11.19 | game looks boring as fk lolz |
DrGonzo1937
11.11.19 | @Gallantin
lol! how am i being a little bitch about it?
youre right blob, and it plays as boring as it looks as well |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Because only little bitches can't man up to their own likes and dislikes without making up scenarios in order to push a false biases on those who disagree with them. |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | "Because only little bitches can't man up to their own likes and dislikes without making up scenarios in order to push a false biases on those who disagree with them."
Real men embrace their opinions as arbitrary fluff floating in a vacuum, only little bitches try to pinpoint their views as symptomatic of identifiable phenomena, yes. There goes Gonzo again pointing out specific facets of gameplay and sequences he disliked; when is that guy going to stop making up scenarios smh. Only thing elevating this from instant pasta is the time it takes to unpack the amount of bullshit stuffed into it. |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | Gallantin is the only one who's being a little bitch here, constantly whining about somebody disliking a game. Seriously, man? Gonzo isn't the only one who's "pushing false biases onto people", the tediousness has been the primary complaint from a bevy of gamers. |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.19 | tbf Gonzo keeps bringing up his assertion that people only like this, or are at least more 'forgiving' of its flaws because of Hideo. Whereas there's zero evidence that's the case, at least here. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | @pika: I know, I'm the one who acknowledged that when Dr. "If Kojima didn't make it then it would be criticised" Gonzo acted as if the game isn't widely polarising right now.
I just think if you're gonna criticise a game, pulling out dumb shit like "ppl wouldnt like it if x didnt make it" is the single stupidest shit you could say in regards to literally anything, thus extracting the info that Dr. Gonzo is a dumb lil bitch who probs like Bioshock infinite heyoooooo nobody would like that game if it wasnt called bioshock amirite BoooiiZZZ |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | Well, yeah, I don't think the creator/studio matters at the end of the day. It's all about the final product. Remember when EA actually released good games and not live service garbage?
At least my boi Igarashi lived up to the hype and produced a quality game. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Like, is it not telling that most of the comments here in regards to the game are negative? And most online discourse involves many detractors. Hell, despite a lot of perfect reviews, it's telling that the game got a bunch of excessively negative reviews. Middle of the road reviews are common, but it's actually quite a rare occurance for a game of this size from a AAA dev to get such highly negative reviews from game critics.
There is far more negative bias for this game than there is usually for a AAA title, which is fine, really, but it's weird that people still act like it somehow hasn't been lambasted by many people, critics and consumers alike. The way Dr Ginzo tells it, you'd think the game has literally never been criticised once, despite all the constant evidence to contrary literally anywhere on the internet. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Anyway, derailed that convo.
2019 has been the best year for games this decade. DMCV, Sekiro, Mario Maker 2, Three Houses, Astral Chain, Outer Worlds, Judgment, Luigi's Mansion 3, Resident Evil 2, Disco Elysium, a tonne of indies, aaaaand Death Stranding? And we're still not done like DAMN what a year. I am blessed by my wallet is not. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Probably got my favourite puzzle game ever this year with Baba Is You. Absolutely brilliant.
Not to mention the massive expansion to Monster Hunter World with Iceborne. Man I put like 80 hours into that expansion already. |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | Monster Hunter World is one of the best games this decade probably. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | If I were to rank top games of the decade, I'd put MonHun 4U, 3U, or GenU on the list over World, BUT I'd also probably put them all on just bc I fucking love Monster Hunter |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | I haven't actually played any other installment, because I only own a PC. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | Actually let me try to make my top, say...10 games of the decade.
1. Dark Souls
2. Metal Gear Solid V
3. Breath of the Wild
4. ...honestly? Probably Death Stranding
5. MonHun 4U
6. Resident Evil 2 Remake
7. Bloodborne
8. Pillars of Eternity
9. Overwatch (don't play it anymore but 500 hours don't lie)
10. XCOM 2 |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | Lmao I'm a sad fuck who put 3k hours into cs go. But it's definitely not going on my list.
1, 2, 3, 6 and 8 are amazing. |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | If I put the time into a game I feel like I can't not acknowledge its place. I may not play Overwatch anymore but I'll be damned if it wasn't the game I played most this decade and that has to stand for something. |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.19 | Damn I play like no games these days, like most of those sound cool but I haven't actually played any of them, lol. |
Devastator
11.11.19 | I'm about to hardcore no life when Pokemon comes out this week. |
Pikazilla
11.11.19 | The new pokemon is the one I'm most anxious about. They cut the dex by almost 500 mons. That's crazy. Devastator, you ever played fan-made hacks/games? |
BigBlob
11.11.19 | whats ur steam ID pika m8 |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | For the first time I'm probs not getting a new Pokemon game day 1. I'm not too concerned about the lower dex, just trying to be more frugal come new year. |
GhandhiLion
11.11.19 | "I may not play Overwatch anymore but I'll be damned if it wasn't the game I played most this decade"
Same
Also avoiding the new pokemon is the right choice. I hope it flops and Nintendo pressures Game Freak into selling. |
Devastator
11.11.19 | @Pika I'm bummed about the smaller dex number but supposedly the Dex does expand when the story is finished so idk. I have played Rom Hacks too. My favorite is the one where Delta pokemon where made, which is Regional Variants before gamefreak came up with it. |
DungeonBoy
11.11.19 | Oxenfree taught me that I don't enjoy walking simulators. This looks like a big budget one from what I've seen in the trailers. I love all things MGS, but I have some doubts i'll enjoy this. Are there weapons, puzzles, tactics, or is it just carry the sac baby around some fields? |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.19 | How does one go about playing hacked Pokemon games? Are they just online downloads via an emulator, or something? |
Relinquished
11.11.19 | yea you can play the hacked or 'modded' pokegames online
the bootlegs were fun for a few hours back in the day |
GhandhiLion
11.11.19 | yes, emulators like DeSmuME or VBA |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | Some Pokehacks are top of the pack when it comes to dumb fun |
Gallantin
11.11.19 | @Dungeonboy: Death Stranding is nothing like Oxenfree.
It has combat, stealth, and I wouldn't say "puzzles" per se, but there is a great deal of strategy when routing and traversing the map. And don't be fooled by the "walking" part, it is far from just pushing forward on the stick. You need to be able to physically manage your full body over all terrain, just pushing forward and walking straight will lead to tumbles and death |
DungeonBoy
11.11.19 | Thanks for the response Gallantin! that is encouraging, I don't want to know too much about the story, but wanted to make sure the gameplay was at least there. |
Faraudo
11.11.19 | I can definitely understand why someone wouldn't like this game lmao |
samwise2000
11.11.19 | Im gonna wait for a sale to play this one... All I care about now is that FF VII remake |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.11.19 | i read about this a bit and watched some initial gameplay / cut scenes and it looks like something i'd probably enjoy but i honestly can't tell if the plot is cool or the biggest cluster fucking trash heap of nonsense i've ever heard of |
Gmork89
11.11.19 | I'm really enjoying it and find it highly immersive. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.11.19 | "If I were to rank top games of the decade, I'd put MonHun 4U, 3U, or GenU on the list over World, BUT I'd also probably put them all on just bc I fucking love Monster Hunter"
this franchise seemed like something i'd dig but i got MH3U a couple months ago and it's honestly the shittiest fucking thing i've ever played. the movement and combat is hysterically ghetto and the game takes tedium to intergalactic levels. combined with the graphic and maps etc its a 2011 game that feels like a 2000 game.
based on this would i hate all the newer ones too? |
GhandhiLion
11.11.19 | Someone is streaming the new pokemon
https://www.twitch.tv/princesswiki |
anarchistfish
11.11.19 | "i honestly can't tell if the plot is cool or the biggest cluster fucking trash heap of nonsense i've ever heard of"
you ever played a japanese game? |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | mfw Nier |
anarchistfish
11.11.19 | havent played tbf. still gotta finish fucking persona 5 |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | Oh damn me too! about 75 hrs into Persona 5 that is - saw a playthrough of Nier Gestalt, and Automata is one of my all-time favourites but hot damn, the overall plotline between the two of them is wayward |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | Yeah I think MHW is awesome and that's coming from someone who's played 3 MH games prior to (including MH3U) and thought they were all dogshit. |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | Hmm, was thinking about trying MHW - pitch it me, Gyro? |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | Witcher 3 is my game of the decade tho. Nier Automata, Cupehead, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Celeste, Hollow Knight, Dirt Rally 2, Ori, Sonic Mania, Edith Finch, and RE7 are all up there too |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | Unlike the others in the series the combat is diverse and fun as hell and the biomes a blast to traverse - lots of vertically makes for cool shortcuts and fun traps to set. Moreover, the diversity of Monsters is great, and crossovers to other games (you can dress up as Nier Automata characters, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dark Souls, etc). That gameplay loop is still there tho, so if you don't like the grind of hunting down monsters and fighting and tracking them for upwards of 40 minutes sometimes, all for the sake of getting new gear and stronger weapons, then it won't be for you |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.11.19 | "you can dress up as Nier Automata characters, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dark Souls, etc"
Lol what. Sounds dope though, will keep an eye out for a cheap buy :] |
Gyromania
11.11.19 | Yeah, your palico (your cat partner) can be dressed up as a lot of things too, including MegaMan lol. Pretty sure you can even be Ryu from Street Fighter. It's a pretty cool suite of cosmetics, and with the new expansion out (Iceborne) now is the best time to jump in tbh. Also the weapons are all very unique - great hammers, bow staff, swords, bagpipes (yes, this is a thing), etc., all of them have a huge set of combos. It can take several hours to master even 1 weapon and it feels very rewarding - kind of akin to how deep some of Bloodborne's weapons' systems are. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.11.19 | Witcher 3 was good but I found it a bit overrated. Didnt get to play the expansions even tho I bought them tho, they didnt work |
JeetJeet
11.12.19 | I was so fuckin hype for this game but honestly its so underwhelming and disappointing and I'm just slogging thru it for the story. And even then I kinda just wanna look up the cut scenes on youtube and wash my hands of the game entirely. Fuck. |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | everyone in the witcher 3 is a dickhead. i prefer the vibe in DAO. the expansions were pretty spectacular though. still blew 90 hrs on it |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | i became addicted to gwent but my deck became OP and i lost interest |
CaliggyJack
11.12.19 | 83 on Metacritic ain't mixed. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | haha gwent was one of the best parts of the game |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | the last jedi has 85 on metacritic |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | i wish mgs were ported to ps4, still havent played |
Gyromania
11.12.19 | The expansions for Witcher 3 are the best pieces of dlc I've ever played, shame you missed them. And yeah Gwent is damn good fun |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | https://www.reddit.com/r/FallenOrder/comments/dux7wj/spoiler_interesting_skill_found_in_game_files/ |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Yeah, OG Monster Hunter is not for everyone, lol. There's a reason the series soared in popularity outside of Japan with World. Westerners like to have an easy time with all of the casualised mechanics. World is a lotta fun tho, can't deny it. I'm still a classic MonHun fan at heart tho. I love that weird esoteric Japanese design. |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | a guy in my school always binged monster hunter on his psp. i always thought it looked boring as hell, but maybe you have to play it to get it |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Look, you'd probably hate it. It's based around constant repetitive gameplay. You hunt a monster, turn it into gear, then hunt more monsters. The primary goal will always end up being to farm a single monster dozens of times to get specific parts for specific gear. There are lots of challenge hunts and some fun online stuff, but otherwise it's a series dedicated to unparalleled and uncompromising grind with obtuse mechanics and outdated controls that make it a chore to learn. It's difficult to love even if you want to love it. I won't deny anyone new to the series is better off going into World first, because that game eased up a lot of systems, made combat smoother and made it radically easier to farm gear. |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | yh anyway is it true that you can play OG MGS on the ps4 if u have ps now? |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Uh in the US, yeah that might be true, I know PS Now over there has a lot of older games. I'm in Australia so if I want to play old MGS games I don't have the option of PS Now, sp I have to use the PS3. You can play MGS1 on the PS3 easy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Tbf My dislike of monster hunter 3 wasn't about difficulty or mechanical depth at all, that's what made me check it out in fact. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | The combat wasnt fun, the quests were tedious, repetative and not nearly as rewarding as promised, I dunno everything about that game was monotonous |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Yo fight this monster for 40 minutes, k now do it again but trap it, k now do it again but now its purple, k now its purple AND you gotta trap it, k now go find it in the wild and fight it 12 more times so you can make a hat |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | I cant think of a single game that made grinding even less fun |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Yeah, that's Monster Hunter for you. And if I'm honest, there isn't much mechanical depth to it. When I said "casualised mechanics", I guess that might have been a wrong choice of words. I don't think the classic MonHun games are particularly difficult or mechanically rich, like the combat in them is really quite shallow, just has a large weapon pool. Idk what Gyro means when he says the weapons are as deep as Bloodbornes (both games have incredibly shallow weapon depth compared to any number of other action games). When I said casualised mechanics I meant stuff like how hunts are made simpler with less tedious tracking, grinding is lessened with far laxer reward requirements, etc. World requires much less grinding on the whole compared to the old games (outside of decoration farming, which is worse than ever in World funnily enough). People took to World easier because it asked less of them when it came to tedium and repetition, and offered up far more in terms of tangible rewards.
Again, I wouldn't blame anyone for hating old MonHun games, you have to be a very specific type of loser to enjoy that grindy, clunky bullshit |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | And I am exactly that type of loser. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Nice, well I think I'll probably give world a shot sometime then cuz I really wanted to love it and if that one takes care of the common gripes there is a good chance I'll dig it |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Despite me being the type of weirdo who misses all the garbage that World took out, I still love the game and have put 200 hours into it, so I very highly recommend it. Its online features are also so simple and easy that you can opt into multiplayer hunts whenever you want, and if you don't like the tedium of a long hunt but just want to enjoy it, the multiplayer is a super easy way to do that.
The only big problem with World is clunky UI, but you get used to it pretty quick. |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | And depending on how complex you want your combat to feel, I'd say go with the longsword if you want simple combat, or go charge blade/hunting horn if you want weapons with a bit more mechanical depth beyond a simple 1-2 repeat combo. But again, you probably know you're not gonna get Devil May Cry out of the combat system, it's pretty basic even once you learn the hardest weapons. |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | The bow is also OP in World and probably the easiest Gunner-type weapon to use. They even nerfed it in Iceborne and it's STILL OP. So that's an easy and powerful weapon if you like ranged play. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Thanks for the info. Not big fan of ranging when I have the choice, I used the great sword and the twin swords in MH3U |
Aenima97
11.12.19 | Walking simulator with cargo on your back which you have to go and fetch if knocked off due to the balance system. Tedious and arduous slogging across open terrain and the fast travel mechanic is fickle, honestly not particularly interested in continuing it. The game is gorgeous from an aesthetic standpoint but that doesn't really mean much at the end of the day when the actual gameplay is monotonous. Nice to see Norman Reedus get more projects but this ain't it for me. |
Gyromania
11.12.19 | It's all about that insect glaive |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | I never liked the insect glaive, but it is a popular one for speedy aerial combat |
aydross121
11.12.19 | Actually let me try to make my top, say...10 games of the decade.
1. Dark Souls
2. Metal Gear Solid V
3. Breath of the Wild
4. ...honestly? Probably Death Stranding
5. MonHun 4U
6. Resident Evil 2 Remake
7. Bloodborne
8. Pillars of Eternity
9. Overwatch (don't play it anymore but 500 hours don't lie)
10. XCOM 2
Great list, pretty similar to mine even though Death Stranding isn't anywhere in it lol. Maybe would add Smash and Mario Odyssey somewhere. Dark Souls is the best one easily though. Also thanks for not putting The Witcher there lol. Also I'd be tempted to add Hollow Knight somewhere. |
Gallantin
11.12.19 | Mario Odyssey would make my top 15 no doubt. XCOM 2 only edged it out by a little. |
CaliggyJack
11.12.19 | Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated
Forever jebaited 4 years we waited for this story Kojima created and my confusion escalated |
Gyromania
11.12.19 | Shit, yeah Odyssey is def a decade contender forgot all about it |
aydross121
11.12.19 | Actually, my top of the decade list that nobody requested now that I thought about it for a bit:
1. Dark Souls
2. Breath of the Wild
3. Undertale
4. Dark Souls 3
5. Hollow Knight
6. Portal 2
7. Bayonetta 2
8. Furi
9. Smash Ultimate
10. Enter the Gungeon
Admittedly, I didn't play much besides Nintendo, FromSoft and Indie games lol. |
Demon of the Fall
11.12.19 | 'Oh damn me too! about 75 hrs into Persona 5 that is'
I'm around 5 hours ahead of you, kind of wondering where you are, but also don't want to accidentally post spoilers for anyone. Erm… I'm post 'hacker/beach' (just) and we're back at school (that's not particularly revealing). |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Why does anyone give a fuck about norman reedus btw dude looks like possums asshole signed up for bring me the horizon |
budgie
11.12.19 | bro wtf im norman reedus |
budgie
11.12.19 | what thread is this |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Ur eye holes look like swollen anal glands |
DungeonBoy
11.12.19 | Death Stranding |
budgie
11.12.19 | whats death stranding |
budgie
11.12.19 | jokes on u idiot i dont even have eye holes |
DungeonBoy
11.12.19 | is Japanese video game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Whats the deal with this overwatch game everyone mentions? Is it one of then mostly online multiplayer shooters? Cuz I fuckin hate those |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | If there is no single player story or local multiplayer focus it can mostly FOAD |
budgie
11.12.19 | how can u not like cs 1.6 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | I dont know what the fuck that is |
DungeonBoy
11.12.19 | is Counter Strike video game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Oh fuck that shit I've never had even the slightest desire to play a counter strike game |
budgie
11.12.19 | i grew up with cs i can't imagine not loving it
it's like all i did in junior high |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | I mean I played call of duty games a lot when I was a tween but those games still suck too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | U know what else sucks? Fuckin halo |
budgie
11.12.19 | i hate halo so yeah
with you there |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Is that franchise even still goin? |
budgie
11.12.19 | me have no idea |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | I know they are making a show out of it which is yikes |
budgie
11.12.19 | lol dungeonboy is just answering all of our questions |
DungeonBoy
11.12.19 | just doing my part ;) |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | mass effect>ur favourite video game |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Which one? Doesnt really matter what the answer is tbh because no but it does make a difference still |
anarchistfish
11.12.19 | at least the first one |
Gyromania
11.12.19 | Halo 1 is phenomenal otherwise yeah fuck the halo series |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.12.19 | "I'm around 5 hours ahead of you, kind of wondering where you are, but also don't want to accidentally post spoilers for anyone. Erm… I'm post 'hacker/beach' (just) and we're back at school (that's not particularly revealing)."
Oh damn, that doesn't sound so far in if I'm getting the right end of it - I've just come out of what I'm pretty sure is either the last or second last Palace
Gyro, final question re. MHW - vibes on the OST? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.19 | Yeah I dunno mass effect 1 thru 3 were decent games and all but I'd never think of calling them goat game material |
Emim
11.13.19 | Halo 1-3 are all fantastic games. ODST is great but too short |
Source
11.13.19 | odst had my fav campaign. great little game |
Faraudo
11.13.19 | "Yeah I dunno mass effect 1 thru 3 were decent games and all but I'd never think of calling them goat game material"
The only one that could be called a goat would be Mass Effect 2, I think.
|
fromtheinside
11.13.19 | Isn't this an advanced walking simulator? |
ramon.
11.13.19 | good comment |
Gallantin
11.13.19 | The game is 90% walking simulator, but its mechanics are as deep as any action game. I actuallly think your options and mechanics for the core game are deeper than MGSV's gameplay |
Gallantin
11.13.19 | But also there are some straight up MGS boss battles in this game |
Demon of the Fall
11.13.19 | 'Oh damn, that doesn't sound so far in if I'm getting the right end of it - I've just come out of what I'm pretty sure is either the last or second last Palace'
As I had suspected I'm going at a snails pace, which is generally my modus operandi for games like this. Maybe I just took 'take your time' too literally.
'The only one that could be called a goat would be Mass Effect 2, I think.' (2)
They got the balance between action/cover shooter and RPG just right on that one, agreed. ME1 is a great game but a little clunkier and I don't even want to talk about how much of a disappointment ME3 was. |
budgie
11.13.19 | mass effect star wars halo it's all fuckin nerd shit real men play low fantasy games like diablo 2 |
Demon of the Fall
11.13.19 | What’s a ‘low fantasy’ game exactly? |
budgie
11.13.19 | low fantasy focuses on the dark and gritty like the conan the barbarian world, high fantasy is like glorfindel in shining armor wielding colorful magics |
Gallantin
11.13.19 | Dark fantasy is the term i'm familiar with |
budgie
11.13.19 | here you go children https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_fantasy |
DungeonBoy
11.13.19 | @Gallantin low fantasy is the contrast to high fantasy. Low fantasy is like real world with magical elements. High fantasy is like fake magic world. |
Gallantin
11.13.19 | I know. I'm just saying i use the term dark fantasy instead low fantasy |
DungeonBoy
11.13.19 | dark fantasy =/= low fantasy but really who cares. it's all nerd stuff anyways |
Source
11.13.19 | yes but what about middle fantasy |
Demon of the Fall
11.13.19 | Yeah I’m gonna say a balance between the two is optimal, without really having precise examples of either. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.13.19 | Advanced walking simulator starting norman reedus sounds neat and all but when do we get menial labour simulator starting willem dafoe |
budgie
11.13.19 | bro wtf im literally willem dafoe irl the fuck dude ... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.13.19 | Sup dude I've seen blood squirt out of your stumpy chubb |
budgie
11.13.19 | bro that was cgi wasnt even my real cucumber |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.13.19 | Sounds made up |
budgie
11.13.19 | YOU sound made up |
Floofus
11.13.19 | Waiting on that Diablo 4 drop |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | I ain't arguing it I'm just a ME fanboy |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | "The only one that could be called a goat would be Mass Effect 2, I think."
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | 1 day til fallen order. Can't play for another two weeks though cos I'm going to Canada |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | I predict 99 on metacritic |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | " when do we get menial labour simulator starting willem dafoe"
U mean like Until dawn |
anarchistfish
11.14.19 | Where u have to figure out how to restore the electricity so Willem can come round for tea |
ramon.
11.14.19 | That Tim Rodgers review is pretty fucking good in slight retrospect |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | Tim Rogers reviews are always delightful |
JeetJeet
11.14.19 | anyone finish the game yet? |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | I'm forty hours in, still on chapter 5.
There are 15 chapters. |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | But as far as I know, I am an outlier. I am taking this game very slow. |
ramon.
11.14.19 | The man is the rock on which Kotaku wobbles I swear. I'll watch anything he puts out. |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | Most Kotaku writers are good. Gita and Heather frequently put out great shit, and Jason does some of the best investigative journalism in the industry. I know it's cool to hate on Kotaku, but every other gaming journalism website is vastly worse from what I've seen. |
Space Jester
11.14.19 | http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/devil-may-cry-5-is-fantastic-but-dmc-devil-may-cry-is-more-relevant/
Case in point |
ramon.
11.14.19 | Oh, Kotaku have brilliant writers. I'd add Nathan to the list too. I just don't think any gaming publications are really that good on the whole to begin with. Brilliant writers notwithstanding, Tim's kinda still his own beast, and I seldom see support for the site that isn't near-directly headed in his direction. Escapist Magazine had some fantastic writers for a while, and even then, Yahtzee was clearly the the site's boon.
I'm likely just a little too blessed by independent content creation at this point, what with channels like Ahoy, GMTK, Turbo Button, etc, all delivering content that's consistently enthralling and thought provoking without any of the nonsense that comes with having a full staff. |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | Ahoy's vid on the first video game was incredible. Love his Monkey Island vid too |
teamster
11.14.19 | I read you’re just a bonafide postman. |
Gallantin
11.14.19 | There's more than enough combat in the game for people |
anarchistfish
11.15.19 | Y'all blow me https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order |
Space Jester
11.15.19 | Ah yes Metacritic the best place to go to find out if something is good
|
Gallantin
11.15.19 | Why is this guy shilling for EA
Like I'm sure the Star Wars game is good like
Are there really any truly awful AAA experiences these days? Even the worst games are still just, like, fine. |
DrGonzo1937
11.15.19 | So I finished the story for death stranding, and it’s pretty incredible.
@teamster
That is what you are for 90% of this slog. Story, graphics, music etc brilliant. gameplay, garbage. |
teamster
11.15.19 | I guess I will wait till it’s on Steam next year. |
anarchistfish
11.15.19 | "Why is this guy shilling for EA"
Talk to me direct little bitch |
Gallantin
11.15.19 | Hey
Only I get to call people little bitches |
anarchistfish
11.15.19 | Ok. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | you know, people are talking a lot of shit about this game but there's one thing no ones mentioned that i think is much worse than any of the above
having to be fucking norman reedus |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | no wonder your character has such difficulty fucking walking straight just look at that trailer trash incest byproduct |
Dmax28
11.16.19 | So I've been watching story summaries/ending explained videos for this game and the story still doesn't make much sense. |
Floofus
11.16.19 | It's Kojima, it doesn't have to make sense as long as it's presented from the lens of an a autistic egoist who crams as much contrived bullshit as he can into everything |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | yo with a concept as preposterous as death strandings there is no making it make sense. |
Gallantin
11.16.19 | Kojima games have never been complex or hard to understand, Death Stranding is no exception. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | lol its not about it being ~too complex too understand~, its about the comically over-the-top, methed out concept of certain people walking around with premature mud babies to avoid giant invisible acid rain monsters from another dimension who FUCKING EXPLODE massive craters in the earth when they destroy you and if ur special you wake up in their secret dimension resurrected naked so you can crawl out of the fucking mud with your norman reedus face and do it all over again |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | its like they just took a fuckload of unrelated ideas that they thought were cool and just stuck them in the oven together.
"alright boys lets make a future game. ideas?"
*raises hand* "NORMAN REEDUS. INVISIBLE MONSTERS"
"thanks haruto thats fantastic. but whats it about?"
*hand* "POSTMAN WALKING SIMULATOR. PREMATURE FETUS."
"brilliant work yuto"
*screams* "THE SKIES ARE ACID" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | *fucking flips the table* "RESTORE THE WIFI NETWORK"
*jumps out the fucking window* "ZOOOOOOMMMMBIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEES" |
StarlessCore
11.16.19 | did u play the game? its a bit more than that lmao |
Gallantin
11.16.19 | Nah, skies aren't acid, the rain accelerates time on anything it touches. Also a lot of Death Stranding's themes and ideas are stolen from classic sci-fi works, Left Hand of Darkness, Stalker/Roadside Picnic, Ghost In the Shell. It's not very out there or new for the genre. |
anarchistfish
11.16.19 | Im glad this game exists but I will mercilessly mock it always |
JeetJeet
11.16.19 | In an earlier comment I said the gameplay was disappointing, but maaaaann....the shit just hits different when you're off an edible and you're walking/cruising thru the landscape just taking in how massive and beautiful the shit looks. And the soundtrack is amazing. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | I see gamers are unfamiliar with the concepts of sarcasm and hyperbole
"It's not very out there or new for the genre."
its also not very coherent or thought-provoking ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | Never suggested it struck me as too "complex", "hard to understand", "out there", or "new". I wish it was considering none of those things are really criticisms. Just overly self-indulgent, spasmodic, and ultimately not very intriguing because of it. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.19 | Of course these are just my feelings from reading about the story online but its important for a game to make you want to play it and this game just makes me want to make fun of it |
anarchistfish
11.17.19 | I also haven't played it |
Gallantin
11.17.19 | "its also not very coherent or thought-provoking"
I never said it was, either. My biggest problem with the game now is the story. There's far too much exposition, and Kojima is still on his bullshit where he's constantly turning all his women into a tool for suffering, and there are some random little plot points that are overdone for almost no reason.
I'm only really in this for the gameplay. I have never really fetishised Kojima's storytelling, because it is always by far the weakest aspect of all his games. |
Floofus
11.19.19 | Watched my fiance play the game when she got it on release and it was just 3 hours of nearly pure exposition and cutscenes. Now, whenever she's playing it, I just the phone chirp and the same dude coming on to say, "Sam, I'm going to tell you why this important for the 80th time, tell you again in 5 minutes" |
Gallantin
11.19.19 | Thankfully that cuts back after the opening. The story and dialogue in this game are unbearable. |
Larkinhill
11.19.19 | Recently got a ps 4 — got the Witcher, gta v (had this on ps3 tho), DA:I, Spider-Man, watch dogs 2, red dead 2, fallout 4, far cryb4, Skyrim (had on ps3), dead souls 3...might have a few others. Considering that, is this really sorry buying right now? Or wait until cheap in a few months? |
Gallantin
11.19.19 | It's better than literally every game you just listed, so yea |
ramon.
11.19.19 | that is a fuck load of open world titles for "recently" lmao |
Gallantin
11.19.19 | Holy shit this game just keeps one-upping itself when it comes to fucking awful dialogue and cutscenes...may be one of the worst game stories I've ever experienced |
DungeonBoy
11.19.19 | "The story and dialogue in this game are unbearable"
so with next to zero gameplay, it doesn't sound like it has much going for it.. it looks pretty though, and the sound design in those games is generally pretty great |
Gallantin
11.19.19 | "Next to zero gameplay" is a funny way of saying "one of the most mechanically deep action games of the past decade".
The game has so much gameplay that you can play for ovee 100 hours before even deciding to get to the end. |
Gallantin
11.19.19 | Gameplay in Death Stranding: 10/10 masterpiece
Story in Death Stranding: 0.5/10 dogshit holy fuxk princess BEACH? |
DungeonBoy
11.19.19 | this thread is giving me some very heavy mixed signals about this game. As expected from y'all, thanks! |
Devastator
11.20.19 | My friend is having a kid early next year and I'm lobbying hard to have them name him Die-Hardman |
GhandhiLion
11.20.19 | This game made me realise how much of a boner Kojima has for evangelion.
...That and Lindsay Wagner. |
aydross121
11.22.19 | Honestly who even is Norman Reedus. |
anarchistfish
11.22.19 | "Recently got a ps 4 — got the Witcher, gta v (had this on ps3 tho), DA:I, Spider-Man, watch dogs 2, red dead 2, fallout 4, far cryb4, Skyrim (had on ps3), dead souls 3...might have a few others. Considering that, is this really sorry buying right now? Or wait until cheap in a few months?"
Get fallen order |
