FrostbiteOblivion: Excellent Metalcore Albums

FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	album art worked, good.
Foxhound 10.11.10	3 is starting to suck really bad for me. idk what to do I liked it at first..
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	Its the vocals. The singer for ABR is too monotone.
eternium 10.11.10	There's still better out there, but sure.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I would have to say I enjoy Messengers and Constellations equally
bloc 10.11.10	3 and 5 are king
Inveigh 10.11.10	I can't think of a single thing about 4 that isn't generic
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	4>3 IMO
Oceans 10.11.10	4 is hardcore, i like 3 4 and 5 though.
puma35 10.11.10	ehhh Architects have better records than Hollow Crown. There are much better metalcore albums though.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I wouldn't say TGI is generic, they did it good and did it right before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in
BigTuna 10.11.10	skycamefalling - 10.21
Inveigh 10.11.10	yeah not saying that 4 is bad, it's pretty enjoyable, but there's certainly nothing unique about it whatsoever. 3's kind of the same deal, but I find it to be far more enjoyable for some reason
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"4 is hardcore" wrong.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I'd say the guitar work in Returners is top notch, much better than all the chug-chug bands these days. (as much as I enjoy junz)
Inveigh 10.11.10	"I wouldn't say TGI is generic, they did it good and did it right before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in" are you joking? their first album came out like 3 years ago... Poison the Well, Unearth, Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, All That Remains, fuck even Parkway Drive were doing it wayyyyyy before TGI PtW, KsE and Unearth were all doing it damn near a decade before them.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, All That Remains" none of these bands sound the same as TGI...parkway drive is pretty similar, but TGI is pretty distinctive from all those bands you named.
Inveigh 10.11.10	dude TGI sound exactly like all of those bands. In fact, go listen to The Opposite of December by Poison the Well. It's like a way better version of TGI, and they came out a good 10 years earlier.
botb 10.11.10	i like TGI but they are generic.
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	Caitiff Choir owns anything 1-4 has ever done.
Yeahtoast 10.11.10	2 is pretty good
Emim 10.11.10	I definitely wouldn't call Luhrs monotone. "I wouldn't say TGI is generic, they did it good and did it right before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in" What veigh said.
botb 10.11.10	yeah and luhrs is a great vocalist tbh.
Inveigh 10.11.10	I still can't get over the fact that this guy thinks 2007 was "before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in" lol I don't want to be mean, but metalcore has been over-saturated since the early 2000s
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	He is just meh for me. He is certainly competent... but it all starts to sound the same. I've never heard an ABR song that I was like "wow... he sounds reaallllllly good on this song!".
WeepingBanana 10.11.10	why do these lists always leave out Every Time I Die??
Emim 10.11.10	He's usually even better live. Honestly I prefer the guy from Texas in July though.
eternium 10.11.10	It became over-saturated around 2004 or so, when bands like Killswitch, ATR, and Shadows Fall became popular. The only really new thing that has been added to the genre since then has been deathcore and we all know how well that has gone over.
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	"why do these lists always leave out Every Time I Die??" This. Buckley slays.
Spec 10.11.10	Good list. Check out Counterparts.
Inveigh 10.11.10	Luhrs is a really good vocalist, but yeah there's not much about him that has a "wow" factor. Like, I'd never bring him up in a "best metalcore vocalist" conversation and yeah, it's been damn near a decade since the genre was consistently fresh, Pit
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	I concur, Inveigh.
ConsiderPhlebas 10.11.10	Wonderful list. You've really grasped the potential of the genre. Well done!
Xplisit 10.11.10	2 and 4 are albums that get too much love around here tbh not excellent metalcore at all
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"Wonderful list. You've really grasped the potential of the genre. Well done!" I lol'ed from all that sarcasm dripping off of that.
Inveigh 10.11.10	haha did you delete Pit's comments? or report him? looks like he might be banned...
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	If you don't think these bands are any good rec me, dont be pricks about it...
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	I'm not banned at all.
eternium 10.11.10	blah blah blah
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	His comments are being deleted because he's being a douchebag about everything as usual.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	Why don't you say something to defend your views rather than deleting my comments?
ConsiderPhlebas 10.11.10	Arkangel - Dead Man Walking Naiad - Hardcore Emotion (Japanese band, hence the slightly camp album title; lost in translation and all that) All Out War - For Those Who Were Crucified Born Under Saturn - Reflecting the Beautiful Design Ringworm - The Venemous Grand Design
eternium 10.11.10	He's got a point.
climactic 10.11.10	enough of these
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	because your not worth the effort, I don't feel like feeding you troll, give me some actual recs or crawl back under the bridge from whence you came.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	ConsiderPhlebas, thanks I'll check those out
botb 10.11.10	Shai Hulud - everything.
liketotallydude 10.11.10	The World We Knew - To The Wolves I find this pretty generic, but I enjoy it from time to time.
AllTheWayKaye 10.11.10	you guys are really mean to each other Holy Shit
Inveigh 10.11.10	ok, recs: Misery Signals - Controller Poison the Well - You Come Before You Botch - We Are The Romans The Dillinger Escape Plan - Miss Machine Killswitch Engage - Alive or Just Breathing Every Time I Die - Hot Damn! Unearth - The Oncoming Storm Integrity - Those Who Fear Tomorrow Coalesce - 0:12 Revolution in Just Listening Converge - Jane Doe
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	maybe I would have gotten less crap if I put 'extremely enjoyable metalcore'
eternium 10.11.10	Earth Crisis - Destroy the Machines Coalesce - Functioning on Impatience Cave In - Until Your Heart Stops Converge - You Fail Me Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker Integrity - Those Who Fear Tomorrow
Inveigh 10.11.10	aaaaaand Shai Hulud - That Within Blood Ill-Tempered Skycamefalling - 10.21
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I like misery signals a lot
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	Recs - It Dies Today - The Caitiff Choir Every Time I Die - New Junk Aesthetic Norma Jean - Bless The Martyr Kiss The Child Dead and Divine - The Machines We Are A Static Lullaby - Rattlesnake!
Emim 10.11.10	"It became over-saturated around 2004 or so, when bands like Killswitch, ATR, and Shadows Fall became popular." Been getting into older SF lately and it rules. Old ATR and KsE are the same.
eternium 10.11.10	aaaaaand Rorschach - Autopsy Snapcase - Progression Through Unlearning Strife - In This Defiance Will Haven - Carpe Diem 108 - Threefold Misery The Blinding Light - The Ascension Attempt Harvest - Transitions Knut - Challenger Rise and Fall - Our Circle Is Vicious Get through all of these before you make another metalcore list. Every single rec you'd gotten.
Winsomniac 10.11.10	Shai Hulud - That Within Blood Ill-Tempered [2] Counterparts - Prophets It Prevails - The Inspiration And you guys can say all the shit you want, but For The Fallen Dreams - Changes was pretty awesome. Gotta have my bro-as-fuck moments.
Emim 10.11.10	Check out Spitfire - The Dead Next Door as well.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	That's a bro-album if I'd ever heard one. Pretty generic, but at least listenable.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	A Static Lullaby - Rattlesnake! I thought their self titled was a load of crap, is this different than their last?
Emim 10.11.10	"That's a bro-album if I'd ever heard one. Pretty generic, but at least listenable." You talking about Spitfire?
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	It's waaaaay different. It's actually good.
iPim 10.11.10	they're all great, but 2 isnt their best
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I like all architects records tbh
botb 10.11.10	honest to god this isn't a bad list, its just mainly like generic stuff that sputnik as a whole kind of looks down on.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I wonder if ten years from now, today's high schoolers will be trolling fans of that wave of music...
Emim 10.11.10	Ah, ok. Have you listened to Spitfire?
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	^ This is why he keeps deleting your comments.
Emim 10.11.10	Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, do you like them?
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	^ This is why he keeps deleting your comments. I don't think he quite gets it, I guess some people are slow learners
ImpendingSpoon321 10.11.10	1,2, and 5 FTW
Spec 10.11.10	Hollow Crown FTW.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	I would tell you that I like the two albums I've heard Emim, but he'll delete my comment anyways.
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	Oh. Well idk.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Gorgonzola, if you can control yourself I won't delete your comments.
Emim 10.11.10	WILL YOU FUCKING STOP DELETING THE COMMENTS OF THE PERSON I AM TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH?! ABRAHAM FUCKING LINCOLN!
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	WILL YOU FUCKING STOP DELETING THE COMMENTS OF THE PERSON I AM TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH?! ABRAHAM FUCKING LINCOLN! I lol'ed, I won't delete his comments if he doesn't act like a total douche.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Im gonna give him 3 more strikes, if he doesnt stop I'm just gonna ignore him and you can continue your conversation elsewhere.
Emim 10.11.10	Anyways, I thought Spitfire was a breath of fresh air. Too bad they broke up.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	DUDE, I WASN'T EVEN TALKING TO YOU!!!!
Jakeitwasaghost 10.11.10	They would respect the cock, whether or not they believe in it
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	isn't Shai Halud more hardcore? and not metalcore?
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	I love Cult Fiction, and the only other one I've heard is Self-Help, and that was pretty good as well. I'll check out the others a bit later today.
eternium 10.11.10	Jesus Christ, stop bitching.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Jesus Christ, stop bitching. who?
Oceans 10.11.10	Frostbite, you think shai halud is more hardcore and think that 4 isnt hardcore. wtf
eternium 10.11.10	All of you.
BigTuna 10.11.10	all ov u
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"Frostbite, you think shai halud is more hardcore and think that 4 isnt hardcore. wtf" I havent listened to them yet, I was just asking based on what everybody says about them..calm down
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	Why don't you just delete his comment, too? Oh, btw, check out my list. It's actually a list of GOOD metalcore albums.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I wasn't rating first wave. If I cared about your opinion I wouldn't have deleted all of your pathetic comments btw
ConsiderPhlebas 10.11.10	A lot of the bands who get labelled metalcore actually think of themselves as hardcore bands with metal influences, including Converge. Shai Hulud were one of the bands who embraced the term, although they've distanced themselves from it now.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	I wasn't rating first wave. Also, if I cared about your opinion I wouldn't have deleted all of your pathetic comments btw
Emim 10.11.10	Attack Attack! is hardcore.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	No, you would have left them. Stop lying to yourself.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"A lot of the bands who get labelled metalcore actually think of themselves as hardcore bands with metal influences" I thought that was what metalcore was? Is there something more than that for it to be actually considered "metalcore?"
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Attack Attack! is hardcore. brootal!
ConsiderPhlebas 10.11.10	The term was apparently used originally in a jokey sense to describe the hardcore bands who were knocking out heavy shit. It's become something utterly removed from that now, though. Personally I think it's useful to think of the term as a spectrum that ranges from hardcore bands with a little metal mixed in, all the way to metal bands with a little hardcore. What bands like As I Lay Dying and August Burns Red have to do with hardcore punk escapes me.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	No, you would have left them. Stop lying to yourself. If I cared I would have left them, you're correct.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	What bands like As I Lay Dying and August Burns Red have to do with hardcore punk escapes me. I agree. IMO it doesnt matter what you call these bands on this site, your going to be stoned for it... most of the time at least
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	That doesn't make any sense. If you cared about my opinion, you would have left them up? Really? Or is it that you do care so much that you don't want to have proven what an uninformed moron you are? If you really didn't care, you'd have left them up and just ignored them.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	that's true, I do care in that sense. You were trolling, and I don't tolerate that. I'll ignore that moron comment and wait for you to take that 7 foot stick out of your ass.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	Lol, disagreeing with you and supporting Blake's comments is considered trolling, huh? Get used to it, bub. This whole site's going to be trolling you the rest of your time on here then.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	That's where your wrong. Everybody else was being helpful
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	No, everyone was laughing at you. Trust me. It's Sputnik. "I still can't get over the fact that this guy thinks 2007 was "before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in" lol" That right there, buddy.
Emim 10.11.10	Not gonna lie. I laughed at that. You more just pissed me off with your commie censoring bullshit.
SlightlyEpic 10.11.10	'modern metalcore' isn't really metalcore at all given that it has pretty much zero hardcore influence. this has probably been said before but I'm not reading 100+ comments.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	they can laugh if they want, I was laughing. "You more just pissed me off with your commie censoring bullshit." If your gonna come onto my list and be a bitch I'm gonna delete your spam. Also, I don't care if everyone hates me, no skin off my back. I just wanna talk music without the infantile trolling.. my ASL question was overlooked, was Rattlesnake! worth a listen?
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	"I still can't get over the fact that this guy thinks 2007 was "before the hordes of crappy metalcore bands swarmed in" lol" I was more referring to bands like Asking Alexandria and Scarlett O'hara there, but yeah that wasn't a very good comment.
zarquan99 10.11.10	there is no good metalcore nowadays except for Converge and DEP (who are more there own weird blend than metalcore). so... Botch - anythin The Dillinger Escape Plan - anything
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	there is no good metalcore nowadays I disagree
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	"there is no good metalcore nowadays I disagree" That's the only correct thing you've said this whole entire list. Congrats, now let's just help you find what is good metalcore and not the shitfest you listen to now
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	All the music I listen to does not suck. If you think every band on this list sucks were not even talking about the same genre, and maybe I got the genre name wrong.
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	No, you got it right(as skewed as metalcore has become nowadays), but it all sounds the same and is breakdown-centric. Architects is okay(at best). ABR and TGI are the kings of mediocre/generic. Hundredth doesn't belong on a metalcore list. The only thing that's decent(and metalcore at the same time)on here is Underoath.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	ABR and TGI are the kings of mediocre/generic. Attack Attack!, Abandon All Ships, Woe is me
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	No, Attack Attack! and so forth are the kings of suck. None of those 3 are mediocre at all.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	haha mediocre and suck are pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned... I'd say Constellations wasn't that generic, with tracks such as marianas trench... correct me if I'm wrong.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	(I'm guilty of enjoying the clean vocals on Woe, is me...)
GorgonzolaCheese1 10.11.10	"haha mediocre and suck are pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned..." Okay, look up the definitions of mediocre and suck, and then tell me what you think. Jesus Christ, I feel like I'm trying to teach a pitbull how to cook a proper egg. "I'd say Constellations wasn't that generic, with tracks such as marianas trench... correct me if I'm wrong." Yeah, they never use the same elementary breakdowns at all. Nope, all of it sounds different. I guess it's just me that can't tell the difference between EACH AND EVERY SONG.
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Haters gonna hate
10barnesj 10.16.10	3 is amazing
Spec 10.16.10	222222222
deathofasalesman 10.16.10	Dead Man In Reno.
Helvete 10.16.10	excellent metalcore?
ConsiderPhlebas 10.16.10	at least it's not black metal
Helvete 10.16.10	blackcore
shortz 10.16.10	I've only listened to #3 to be honest, and am looking to get more decent metalcore albums. If some random person on the internet says they're good (or should I say, excellent), perhaps I should check them out.
SlightlyEpic 10.16.10	shortz are you sure this is the kind of person you can trust
shortz 10.16.10	I don't know Slightly, I'm a pretty trusting person, especially when it comes to the internet, so why not?!
SlightlyEpic 10.16.10	okay i was just making sure i wouldn't want you to misplace your trust ever and be hopelessly disappointed that would be dreadful!
shortz 10.16.10	Well I thank you for looking out for me Slightly! How sweet of you