MFer: Ny Should Have A Death Penalty

Counterfeit 09.22.10	I'd listen to something really angry and then charge the firing squad.
theacademy 09.22.10	the firing squad? lolol this is america...
bloc 09.22.10	Canada should really have it
ButcheredChildren 09.22.10	I'd not do something so I wouldn't be put infront of a firing squad cuz i'm not a moron. But let's look at another side of the coin, if NY did have the death penalty it would most likely be "the chair" because it has been deemed the most sanitary method of carrying out the death penalty. Firing squads are only used in war and maybe for public exectutions like in the middle east or back when the soviet union was still 'round.
MFer 09.22.10	exactly...america should be tuff...like the firing squad... we have become pussies. we can't even kill killers. give me three stones to the face.
bungy 09.22.10	Yeah, I would just not kill, rape, or torture anybody.
theacademy 09.22.10	what the fuck are you babbling about like 99% of executions are lethal injection...
Jash 09.22.10	Death penalty is bullshit plain and simple
patroneyes 09.22.10	i agree with the comments above me, BUT 5 would be epic to die to
ButcheredChildren 09.22.10	how about.... no1 commits a terrible crime so they dont need to get the death penalty? I like that idea best
MFer 09.22.10	not sure why people want convicted killers to live a full life (off tax payers money). what is wrong with you? kill them all.
theacademy 09.22.10	but those taxpayers vote on this very issue...
Jash 09.22.10	I agree with you butchered, but still if someone kills someone and then they get the death sentence, it's stuiped. It's wrong for the murderer to kill someone but when the government kills them it's okay? Doesn't compute for me
theacademy 09.22.10	stop saying butchered was right. he said this: "ut let's look at another side of the coin, if NY did have the death penalty it would most likely be "the chair" because it has been deemed the most sanitary method of carrying out the death penalty. Firing squads are only used in war and maybe for public exectutions like in the middle east or back when the soviet union was still 'round." what the hell is wrong with all of you aihaihwreoawhreouahew i quit
MFer 09.22.10	the system is fucked. parole boards are freeing cop killers in NY. are you kidding me???? i work within the system and let me tell you.....it's totally fucked.
ButcheredChildren 09.22.10	yea I'll admit my own mistake, I didn't fully think what I said out, I was angry at what some ppl said about being put infront of a "firing squad" fuck kids these days need to grow up
ButcheredChildren 09.22.10	the whole basis of why laws are made are to protect peoples rights and freedoms, also what is deemed "humaine" in society and behind bars respectively
Ire 09.22.10	kill everybody who dislikes opeth
MFer 09.22.10	the killer wasn't acting humaine when he raped, tortured and killed the children....fuck the killer. eye for an eye.
kangaroopoo 09.22.10	murder totals, ranking changes when per capita. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders
Baphomet 09.22.10	Death penalty presents a paradox which makes it impossible to fully support. That said I would ask for a unicorn as my last meal, and they can't off me without giving me my last meal.
ShadowRemains 09.22.10	Robert Pickton should die...
DiceMan 09.22.10	Death Penalty is fucking stupid. THIS PERSON KILLED PEOPLE SO WE'RE GOING TO KILL HIM LOLOLOLOL Excuse me... What? Who hired a troll to make laws?
theacademy 09.22.10	THERE IS NO 'I' IN HUMANE ACK WHY THE FUCK DID I COME BACK HERE i quit
DiceMan 09.22.10	Also MFer, because they have a certain number of appeals for the death penalty and they (almost) always use them, it costs just as much or more to kill them through "humane" ways than it does to keep them in jail. The only serious thing the DP has going for it is population control (50k people come into the US every week through immigration being born etc) but other than that, we're a developed civilized nation. Try using your head.
theacademy 09.22.10	"The only serious thing the DP has going for it is population control (50k people come into the US every week through immigration being born etc)" i think something like only 400 people executed in the entire U.S. over the last decade.
DiceMan 09.22.10	Probably something around there I haven't done research on that end but seriously... Wtf...
AnotherBrick 09.22.10	i lol'd
Dryden 09.22.10	he returns
Ire 09.22.10	racist
Emim 09.22.10	Kill 'Em All.
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	...or you could have gun control and not have the highest murder rate of any industrialized country in the world.
JWT155 09.22.10	"Death penalty is bullshit plain and simple" Your stupid and so is anyone who has such a concrete black and white view on this. And Rabbit your argument doesn't hold true because Texas has the loosest gun laws in the US and has the lowest crime rate.
Emim 09.22.10	Yeah that worked so well for Australia. Not like people have been killing each other without guns for thousands of years or anything...
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	lol Ottawa would have 30 murders a year a city of an equivalent size in the USA would have tenfold that amount easily. The best example of how a fucked up backwards country the us is is to think that the amount of people killed on 9/11 is just slightly more then the daily average for murders. I'm not making fun of the USA I feel sad for it.
theacademy 09.22.10	lol @ how hilariously ignorant couldwinarabbit is. Seriously, that comment is so dumb i can't even begin to omfg why did i come back here I QUIT.
JWT155 09.22.10	To believe that banning guns would decrease that though isn't logical. Imo if someone believes it's logical to kill someone or commit such an illegal act, then what will keep them turning to the blackmarket or an underground arms dealer who will exist and provide no matter whether weapons are legal to the average citizen. Sure, it'll deter a few but if someone wants to acquire a gun to commit a crime, they'll still find a way.
foreverendeared 09.22.10	apparently robert hates nigs
theacademy 09.22.10	"To believe that banning guns would decrease that though isn't logical." no that wasn't the ignorant part. i happen to agree with him. "highest murder rate of any industrialized country in the world." this is where he brings the retard.
JWT155 09.22.10	Yea, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to guns. Criminals don't fuck with people with guns i.e. Texas.
theacademy 09.22.10	i mean, it's not like that kind of change would make a big difference in texas, but banning guns would undoubtedly cause an aggregate decline in homicides (on a national scale).
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	Canada has fewer murders today then it did 50 years ago despite a major growth in population, urban density and immigration (which is sadly a reason behind a higher crime and murder rate). This has largely been credited with tighter gun regulations esp the ban on hand guns and regulations on where you can have long guns.
theacademy 09.22.10	don't cop out lets return to "highest murder rate of any industrialized country in the world," you racist fuck
JWT155 09.22.10	I wouldn't be so certain of a decrease in homicides, a lot of variables to consider.
kangaroopoo 09.22.10	http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	@theacademy it is true. It's was a case study in my politics course. @JWT its a well known fact that you are more likely to be killed by your own gun then anyone elses
Ire 09.22.10	oh you
Ire 09.22.10	oh you
Ire 09.22.10	oh you
theacademy 09.22.10	seriously this kid is progmaster-level unintelligent. get the fuck off sputnik and read a book.
JWT155 09.22.10	Well known fact my ass, is Glenn Beck your politics prof?
theacademy 09.22.10	no no man it's true he heard it in his politics course.
Ire 09.22.10	you are very smart rabbit i highly agree
bailar14 09.22.10	lol ire enrique approves
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp bam I win
theacademy 09.22.10	all things considered, though, canada is fucking awesome.
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-increases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed.html this one is shorter and proves I win more/ faster
theacademy 09.22.10	no you don't win. you don't get to say something blatantly ignorant and then cite something called the new scientist which we can't even read without a subscription.
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	"Despite the US having the highest rate of firearms-related homicide in the industrialised world" "Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens" what about me being wrong?
theacademy 09.22.10	try clicking the link for that quote?
foreverendeared 09.22.10	DEATH
JWT155 09.22.10	You realize that the study was done in just Philadelphia which has a rather high crime rate. Also, had you taken a basic statistics class you'd learn about sample sizes and relating that to a population and that deducing the statistics from a research project done by a very liberal Ivy League school, Penn, in an area of the US with a rather high crime rate, that this sample size used cannot possibly be interpolated into a broad generalization.
theacademy 09.22.10	"the industrialised world" i guess mexico, argentina, and russia don't count... YOURE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT. JUST DIE.
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	...It's ok to admit I am right. You like tool you are justed to being wrong. Actually Ok Computer would defend me to a certain extent
bailar14 09.22.10	karma police arrest this man
couldwinarabbit 09.22.10	@megadeth (cool name) I'm spainish/ french
nb100 09.22.10	couldwinarabbit you ugly faggot bitch
theacademy 09.22.10	LIIIIIIIIIKE DAMMM..? yo rabbit u got greecy white face u faggat wit da curly golden pubes 2 go withit dam u a skinny white bitch lold so hard
kangaroopoo 09.22.10	Hablo frances and je parle esagnol
JWT155 09.22.10	Your not right bro, to make such a complicated issue, where really no party on either the far left or right have correct, and portray it as black and white issue and that your the Nobel prize winning intellectual thinker whose solved this crisis on a music site thread is laughable.
bailar14 09.22.10	jwt gonna fuck yhu up
megadeth101 09.22.10	u rly dum forreal
nb100 09.22.10	^^^^
megadeth101 09.22.10	french bitch
Ire 09.22.10	productive thread
JWT155 09.22.10	Just growing up and now being an Econ/Poly Sci major and just learning more about politics and economics I've discovered it's really arrogant and ignorant to believe things are so simple.
bailar14 09.22.10	jwt gonna fuck yhu up its his major too
RippingCorpse 09.22.10	"Death Penalty is fucking stupid. THIS PERSON KILLED PEOPLE SO WE'RE GOING TO KILL HIM LOLOLOLOL Excuse me... What? Who hired a troll to make laws?" best thing ive read on sputnik in ages
Sabottheory 09.22.10	Death penalty is like so cool. Like you can kill people whose behaviour you don't like and stuff.
Prolapse 09.22.10	if only you guys knew how many people i've killed...
Emim 09.22.10	""Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens" Oh, no shit? This is because most people are stupid, especially the morons that get concealed permits and don't know how to operate a weapon. Besides that, most shootings (at least where I live) are perpetrated by illegally-obtained guns anyways, usually in gang situations. As for the death penalty, when did we decide punishment doesn't work anymore? Also, murder is defined as with malice, so saying it is murder is completely wrong.
JWT155 09.22.10	I just can't conceive people who believe that the death penalty has absolutely no place in society. Forget where this happened but recently there's a guy or men on trial for entering a rich home, ordered the wife to go to the bank and retrieve $15,000 and return back and that her daughter and husband would be killed if she called the police. Well she returned but did call the police. The man watched his wife and daughter get raped and then killed and then he was shot and left to die. Apparently he survived and the man/men who did this heinous act are on trial. Anyone who believes these men deserve anymore time on this earth to breathe and should be put in jail for my tax dollars to have them keep on living is fucked up.
Lambda 09.22.10	4 & 5 nice
Emim 09.22.10	"I just can't conceive people who believe that the death penalty has absolutely no place in society. Forget where this happened but recently there's a guy or men on trial for entering a rich home, ordered the wife to go to the bank and retrieve $15,000 and return back and that her daughter and husband would be killed if she called the police. Well she returned but did call the police. The man watched his wife and daughter get raped and then killed and then he was shot and left to die. Apparently he survived and the man/men who did this heinous act are on trial. Anyone who believes these men deserve anymore time on this earth to breathe and should be put in jail for my tax dollars to have them keep on living is fucked up." This sounds like the exact plot to Law Abiding Citizen
DiceMan 09.22.10	JWT with appeals and such it costs just as much or more to kill them than it does to keep them in prison. Honestly I'd rather they rot in a cell, die alone, then go to hell rather than anything else. Plus revenge of that sort doesn't help relatives to come to terms with the death of their loved ones. More often than not it just leaves regrets about things they didn't say to the killer. Psychologically it is easier for a family to cope knowing that the killer isn't having the time of his life but locked behind bars. And yeah Emim that is almost exactly what happened I just couldn't remember which movie it was from when I was reading it but it sounded awfully familiar. I'd reeeally like to read that news article.
theacademy 09.22.10	"Anyone who believes these men deserve anymore time on this earth to breathe and should be put in jail for my tax dollars to have them keep on living is fucked up." except if it didn't happen in your state. then you aren't paying taxes and your opinion is worthless.
JWT155 09.22.10	This is the case I believe, my facts were slightly off; and your right academy but still. http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/chilling-tapes-aired-in-connecticut-triple-murder-trial/19636184
DiceMan 09.22.10	Also, you paying tax dollars to kill people is no better than anyone else killing people. It naturally forms a paradox that causes immorality to spawn immorality. Kinda silly don't you think? Saying that you've studied this shit and that it is not black and white, then proceeding to completely ignore the moral and financial complications it causes is kind of ignorant too don't you think?
JWT155 09.22.10	My opinion was based more or less of what I personally think should be done, it was ignoring the actual process of which I completely agree, the practicality of proceeding with executing these men in today's day and age would not work. If I had my way, tax dollars wouldn't be needed for an execution, they can hang on a rope outside the courthouse for all I care.
RippingCorpse 09.22.10	i love it when people pretend to be smart on sputnik
DiceMan 09.22.10	You're not the only one.
Emim 09.22.10	I have no problem with the death penalty. My only qualm is that if it's going to take 20-30 years for them to actually be executed, just give them fucking life in prison to begin with.
DiceMan 09.22.10	Due process of law Emim, due process of law. Also it's for if any other evidence comes up for their situation that indicates that they didn't do it then they can be cleared of the DP. It's stupid really which is why we as a nation shouldn't even allow it to begin with.
Emim 09.22.10	I understand that it is the due process of law. If they're going to wait that long, however, what's the point of convicting them?
DiceMan 09.22.10	Exactly... It's more expensive than keeping them in prison anyways (more often than not of course, there are exceptions as there are with most generalizations).
SCREAM! 09.22.10	Honestly id rather die than be stuck in a max security prison cell for life.
Emim 09.22.10	Well, if nothing else we need the space in jail. Metallica had it right.
bloc 09.22.10	HEEEEEEEEEE NEVER GETS RESPECT
DiceMan 09.22.10	Well, if nothing else we need the space in jail. Metallica had it right. Umm you're kidding right? It isn't like we're all going LOL OUT OF SPACE YOU'RE FREE TO GO. Metallica is a troll. Plus, think about what you just said... "Well we need more room to keep all the people who are being bad, so we're gonna kill you is that okay with you? Ok cool thanks."
Emim 09.22.10	No, but if they're on death row, then actually kill them. This would free up space.
Ire 09.22.10	YO FUCK DA DETH PENALTY I'LL KILL DEM MUFFUCKAS MYSELF
ShadowRemains 09.22.10	rabbit is such a fucking idiot
Emim 09.22.10	Never gets old.
DiceMan 09.22.10	Yeah rabbit is an idiot. But killing people for the sake of space still is one of the most disgustingly inhuman things I've ever heard. Plus it's not even a valid point.