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Intothepit 07.23.15	I'm in love
InfamousGrouse 07.23.15	You are aware Bela Lugosi's Dead is technically like a single, right? Actually listening to 20 right now.
Intothepit 07.23.15	Boys is so good though.
AmericanFlagAsh 07.23.15	Mmm 10
InfamousGrouse 07.23.15	Always preferred Heaven Up Here and Porcupine tbh
Intothepit 07.23.15	Understood
adr 07.23.15	good list, but it needs some Wipers
AmericanFlagAsh 07.23.15	The killing moon will come too soon For you Grouse
BMDrummer 07.23.15	closer is better, but it's nice to see deceit at 1 and a different PIL album on here
PappyMason 07.23.15	Nice, very nice.
AmericanFlagAsh 07.23.15	I'm gonna add the ones I haven't heard to my queue
Intothepit 07.23.15	Love me some Deceit
Ryus 07.23.15	yep deceit is fantastic
altertide0 07.23.15	good list, lacks Nick Cave's debut and Pop Group's Y
BigHans 07.23.15	I see you are still elite Pit
Intothepit 07.23.15	I will always be elite. So much garbage is discussed on this site nowadays. It's all a bunch of metalcore pissants. Time for a change. ¡Viva la revolución!
BigHans 07.23.15	Ive pretty much only been engaging in classic and thrash metal threads.
Cygnatti 07.23.15	fairly entry level list but any post punk is better than none. sput needs moar post-punx
Greem 07.23.15	listen to Kino
NeroCorleone80 07.23.15	Cool list. I'd definitely have Youth of America on here.
ShadowRemains 07.23.15	"good list, but it needs some Wipers" wipers is more punk than post imo
Intothepit 07.23.15	Entry level? Lol buddy
NeroCorleone80 07.23.15	Wipers are experimental enough to be considered post-punk, some bands are just on the more punk end of the genre.
Intothepit 07.23.15	Experimenting =/= post punk
adr 07.23.15	"Experimenting =/= post punk" Define me post-punk then? Because that's what exactly post-punk is. First Wipers album is just a punk album i agree, but the next two are definitely post-punk/art punk. They just have that more typical punk sound.
InfamousGrouse 07.23.15	"Entry level? Lol buddy" I wouldn't necessarily take that as a bad thing. Sure, about half of this list is pretty much entry level. Doesn't mean they're not quality records.
Cygnatti 07.23.15	^exactly. most of post punk's best records happen to be entry level
adr 07.23.15	check Beastmilk
Intothepit 07.23.15	It's not about the proper definition of post punk. I've heard bands experiment with other genres in their music, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a post-metal band becomes, say, a death metal one.
Cygnatti 07.23.15	if you say so: post-punk is a form of rock music - an offshoot/advancement of the punk rock genre, and a notable precursor to the alt rock and indie rock genres. post-punk rejects punk's simplicity, while embracing and advancing the radical/political ideas, coupling it with more radical and experimental music. post-punk took important influences from krautrock, dub, electronic, synth/electropop, experimental, and sometimes folk and jazz which are almost always absent from traditional punk rock. post-punk was literally formed when former punks or those influenced by punks decided to experiment with the sound and idea of punk. (an example would be john lydon/johnny rotten of sex pistols fame playing straightforward rockin' "punk" to PiL's dreary, meandering, unsettling, kraut and dub-heavy 'metal box') indeed that simply being post-punk is not experimental, however certain bands and waves of post-punk induced a very important wave of experimental rock bands (think no wave). and the first 5 years of post-punk can be considered highly influential to future genres of alternative rock, indie rock, post rock, jangle pop, twee pop, indie pop, and many many more. post-punk and it's countless derivative genres would then become the dominant musical force in the 80s along with new wave. post-punk can also be considered a sister genre to new wave, which coincides with post-punk, but having particular r&b, disco, dance, electro and synthpop influences. many post-punk bands happen to also be new wave as well.
Intothepit 07.23.15	Thanks for the unnecessary enlightenment.
adr 07.23.15	i'm not sure i'm following you, that example was terrible. Post-Punk is just more experimental punk that still retaining its roots from punk. It's more about the atmosphere tho, also a lot of Electronic/Krautrock/Art Rock influences therefore experimental.
Intothepit 07.23.15	It kind of is, considering it doesn't support neither argument, and didnt tell us anything we already didn't know.
adr 07.23.15	lol Cyg beat me with that wiki post lol
Intothepit 07.23.15	How is that example terrible? So any punk band that experiments is automatically not just a punk band? I get that there are a lot of other aspects of post punk that set it apart from its origins, but experimenting doesn't automatically make it post punk.
Intothepit 07.23.15	Not really. Experimenting with different sounds doesn't automatically make a band "post punk." There's a lot more to it than that.
Intothepit 07.23.15	We weren't talking about the name of a genre. We were discussing a singular band that he said "experimented."
Intothepit 07.23.15	I can understand that, and I'm not disagreeing with you nor him on that, but a insert genre here band adding a little bit of another instrument or another genre to their music doesn't make them that genre. That's all I'm saying.
jagride 07.24.15	first 3 wipers records and the impulse behind them epitomize punk. i've never gone in for the tendency to treat it like some inherently creatively stunted 1-2-3-4 garage shit and then start throwing around the post-puink tag to describe more sophisticated music either. those restrictions and distinctions weren't there at the start and most punk bands worth a shit weren't/aren't content to play it safe solid list man. been giving ubu another go recently, never really warmed to them despite loving a lot of that clevo scene in general
widowslaugh123 02.25.20	Good