Scheumke: Oppenheimer | Sputnikmusic

Scheumke 07.22.23	Anyone seen it yet, what did you guys think?
hobblepot 07.22.23	they better use Enola Gay by OMD for the credits
Havey 07.22.23	i heard it's loud
Hyperion1001 07.22.23	I’m too dumb to watch it
Scheumke 07.22.23	Just came back from the cinema. First impression is that it's a very important film, at least to me. The obvious: the acting is phenomenal, music is amazing, cinematography is subtle but effective, dialog is pretty great and the writing amazing as always, although I do get if people find it overlong, especially the last hour. The reason it feels important to me is that this is the first time that I really understand the capability we humans have to destroy the world. Like I've always known of course but the ramification of what that actually means have never been driven home quite this way. Heard a quote somewhere that describes it perfectly: I don't know with which weapons ww3 will be fought with, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones. I'm very impressed by the movie overall, to the point where right now I will feel it will end up in my top 10 favorite movies I've ever seen, but in the way Das Leben Der Andern is in there, not in the way Inception is.
CugnoBrasso 07.22.23	Nahhhh late august where im from
Sharenge 07.22.23	wait you really never thought about that before?
DominionMM1 07.23.23	https://open.spotify.com/episode/2CW1iOwym34Whn5JpAjBRs?si=To758t5_QS2Dzt12mPPUUw
nol 07.23.23	I’m also a big Nolan fan
grannypantys 07.23.23	really unimpressed by the movie. I've read a few books about the manhattan project and they were infinitely more interesting than this film. I get that Nolan had to keep the focus on his main character but as portrayed by this film, Oppenheimer appears to be a boring man surrounded by the exciting events of his day.
MeatSalad 07.23.23	Seeing it tonight. Expected very little at first cause Dunkirk was mid and Tenet was laughably bad, but good lord this movie is getting it's dick sucked reception-wise
TVC15 07.23.23	Pretty hype when The Catalyst by Linkin Park started playing during the Trinity test
rabidfish 07.23.23	Tenet is good. fun time. Seeing Op next week. Cant remember the last time i watched a movie in a movie theater.
Veldin 07.23.23	Gonna see this in IMAX with my brother soon. Excited! Glad to hear you enjoyed it
Scheumke 07.23.23	@Sharenge yeah def have, it's just never landed with me before as it did with this movie.
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	both this and Barbie were fantastic. Oppenheimer managed to get in a lot of information in a reasonably coherent way
bellovddd 07.23.23	nolans been going downhill ever since dark knight.
MeatSalad 07.23.23	This is about as close as a return to form as we're gonna get. Was much more engaging than Dunkirk as a historical piece and genuinely felt like a good movie. Would like to see him tackle another psychological mystery/thriller type of film like Memento or The Prestige cause those two are his peak imo
Get Low 07.23.23	Imagine wanting to see this instead of the Barbie movie
Havey 07.23.23	saw a movie with Robert De Niro as cast, despised it. Gambian Cinema (essay films on gold trade), and ONGs (such as Share The Meal) (my motto); besides
Azazzel 07.23.23	@grannypantys seems ^Scheumke is the target audience not us. for those in the know yes it felt VERY didactic and dry. Cilian does his best to carry it but god damn, Nolan you're not Terrance Malick. Nolan really needs to let somebody else pen his characters and dialogue. And why is a brit auteur the one canonizing our great American mythos? It's not a grand metaphor about the crisis of modern man or the individual - Herzog could've done something interesting - it really is just DYK McCarthyism?!? and boy he sure did wring those hands afterwards huh? As an adaptation based on a true story it's kind of fascinating- imagine the Brechtian alienation effect of watching a parralel universe equivalent set in Germany where one genius is so consequential- but this story is already much larger than life, than History, than myth, it's become a memetic hyper-myth that I didn't feel rose to meet that operant registry I'm glad it's finding it's audience but like, Andrew Dominik 'Blonde' from last year is a good close comparison imo and it somehow had more to say and with more depth than this
rabidfish 07.23.23	we need at least another 50 years to properly ponder and make great art about the greatest of all collective sins we've commited so far as a species. I'm just going in expecting a decent-to-good movie about a weird looking dude making a big ass bomb.
TheNotrap 07.23.23	Should be great
Hyperion1001 07.23.23	“for those in the know yes it felt VERY didactic and dry.” this is Nolan’s entire career. his whole thing is making “smart” movies aimed at an audience with room temperature IQ’s, so anything that has the potential to say or do anything interesting is diluted with so much dorky overwrought melodrama that it kills any potential it had to be something with substance. almost everything he does boils down to just being complete nonsense wrapped in a shiny package. interstellar is the worst offender, but they’re mostly all like that. his two best movies are the prestige and insomnia, and beyond that it’s just low brow entertainment cosplaying as something Important™
Ryus 07.23.23	memento is the only film of his that i really like.
TheNotrap 07.23.23	I hear you Hyperion but this is the movie industry, and within McDonald's IQ's I prefer Nolan to any Disney or Netflix crap
Ryus 07.23.23	im just glad it seems like the superhero shit seems to be dying down a bit lol
TheNotrap 07.23.23	The "superhero shit" is unfortunately a mirror of our society
ReefaJones 07.23.23	"we need at least another 50 years to properly ponder and make great art about the greatest of all collective sins we've commited so far as a species. I'm just going in expecting a decent-to-good movie about a weird looking dude making a big ass bomb." Nuclear proliferation is the single reason why we haven't had any major wars since WW2 so calling it the biggest sin we've committed is a pretty uninformed viewpoint
Scheumke 07.23.23	Nuclear proliferation is also the single reason why we are only going to have one more major war for the entirety of our species until we figure our a way to live on another planet though. Ww2 was less than a hundred years ago yet we'll have that sword above our heads for the foreseable future though won't we? That shit scares me more when thinking that the people who have this power are not the most mentally stable leaders we've ever seen. I don't know and I get the criticism you guys are having but that point just got to me while watching it.
JohnnyoftheWell 07.23.23	Was struck above all by the bloodlessness of the thing - thought the way the whole affair was firmly estranged from actual violence and v much enmeshed in the pettiest aspects of US policymaking was just about cogent enough to demand such elaborate narration "almost everything he does boils down to just being complete nonsense wrapped in a shiny package" babe don't get on your high horse about Nolan and room temp IQs (not something I'd otherwise disagree with) and then trot out the laziest generalisations on offer about the man's entire body of work. anyone smart enough to form a realistic set of expectations will be walking into this as an all-star effort to bring fresh stakes and tension to popular history, not as a groundbreaking exhibition of fresh insight
MeatSalad 07.23.23	I mean they did say "almost" everything in fairness
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	aight guess i'm the only asshole in the room that likes nolan movies lmao
MeatSalad 07.23.23	Naw I like his stuff too but I think the criticisms that get directed at films like Dark Knight Rises or Interstellar or especially fucking Tenet are entirely deserved
rabidfish 07.23.23	TENET rocks lmao people hatin on it don't get that it's mission impossible with retrocausality. It's just an action movie, man. Enjoy the cool fight scenes.
fogza 07.23.23	I preferred dark night rises to the dark night but heath was amazing
MeatSalad 07.23.23	The difference being Mission Impossible movies esp the later ones usually have coherent and well put together action choreography. Nolan's actions scenes all range between serviceable to embarrassingly bad
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	i don't like DNR or Interstellar all that much either tbh. Dunkirk's probably my least favourite i've seen, but I actually really liked Tenet tbh and I'm not sure I agree with many of the criticisms of it
fogza 07.23.23	Liked Dunkirk, was checking my phone during tenet
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	checking your phone for texts sent from the future no doubt
JohnnyoftheWell 07.23.23	Still ain't seen Tenet (although word I'd heard on it was dumb dumbness - am down with dumb fun), but Dunkirk is probs my 2nd fav after TDK. Loved the pacing love the tension love the structure (and thought Opp picked up a lot of the right tricks from these)
fogza 07.23.23	The words were all spelled the wrong way round
fogza 07.23.23	Dunkirk felt like an examination of the debilitating effect of tension and anxiety from inaction, just such a unique way to approach a war movie
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	for whatever reason, Dunkirk has just never made me feel much of anything, though I agree I like it's approach. I have a weird bias for WWI movies over WWII movies for some reason, idk why lol (with Das Boot being a notable exception)
rabidfish 07.23.23	Wanting character development from a script that makes its protagonist say "I am the protagonist"... Makes you look stupid. I celebrate that the only attempt to give some soul to the plot is done so poorly and comes from a character so useless and stupid she almost dooms all humanity because "muh feelings". I celebrate it not because I agree or think it's good (it's pretty fucking evil) but because it is purposeful and spiritually consistent. To Nolan emotions are evil. TENET is almost 100% purely gnostic. The ideas and images in it are done with so much purpose and vision (a dark vision, sure) I can't help but feel admiration. Dude is on a mission with his art. Expecting emotion and humanity from someone who clearly is showing active despise for all human emotions is self defeating. Only the ascended individual (and by that I mean MAN) is the one who can bring salvation. Everyone else (and all women, btw) get bent.
Jasdevi087 07.23.23	umm so... it was good, yeah?
Rowan5215 07.23.23	Tenet was absolute dogshit lmao. Opp was pretty good
Ecnalzen 07.23.23	This got a list but not Barbie? For shame. I thought it was supposed to be a Barbenheimer kind of weekend I'll probably watch this at some point, but I dunno, I started to lose interest in Nolan after Inception for whatever reason
rabidfish 07.23.23	Its a left hand path wizard making a gnostic psy-op. But I like it, it was pretty fun. I can get behind the idea of instinct as crucial to understanding of deep nature of reality. And the action scenes are cool, I don't know what you mean by them being bad. That's just hatin now.
TalonsOfFire 07.23.23	Tenet was fun in a big spectacle mind-bending action movie way like James Bond meets Inception, but Dunkirk was incredible, my favorite war movie. Was so immersive and beautifully made. Oppenheimer was pretty amazing too, deserves all the Oscars imo
ArsMoriendi 07.24.23	Solid 3.5/5 movie Don't love Oppenheimer's predictable Nolan "always out of order to piece together a mystery" "a third of the movie is in black in white" overreliance, but it was still entertaining, the acting was mostly good etc though the way Oppenheimer was sort of deified was kinda lame
ArsMoriendi 07.24.23	Won't lie, I very slightly preferred Barbie when I did the Barbenheimer double feature
PotsyTater 07.24.23	“ Imagine wanting to see this instead of the Barbie movie” [2] Also lol hype went in on Nolan. Couldn’t agree more with all that. Fuck Nolan and fuck this movie
MeatSalad 07.24.23	Barbie was a fucking blast, had a great time watching it
Jasdevi087 07.24.23	i thoroughly enjoyed both movies, the gag about the ken song being that buttrock ass nickelback song might be the loudest I've laughed in a movie theatre
pizzamachine 07.24.23	Who watches movies lols
CaliggyJack 07.24.23	Haven't watched Nolan since DKR but all I remember he had a fit about streaming killing cinema and that just made me hate him.
AlexKzillion 07.24.23	i couldn't get opp tickets at a decent time today so i streamed momento since that seems to be the one even his haters can sorta get behind and i liked it quite a bit.
TheSupernatural 07.24.23	"Haven't watched Nolan since DKR but all I remember he had a fit about streaming killing cinema and that just made me hate him." Tbf he basically spent years and the studio spent millions and then then their distribution plan was the equivalent of a straight-to-DVD release. He's said some dumb shit but I'd have been pissed too about that. Also DKR is arguably his worst film, probably a valid reason to hate him lol
CaliggyJack 07.24.23	I don't hate him, just his movies haven't interested me. I get it, but launching a tirade about streaming like a tone deaf millionaire grinds me up. Theaters are gouging prices, treating their workers like shit, with customers routinely getting out of control with noise. Not to mention driving there, and the effort needed for people with disabilities. Or neurodivergent people who can't deal with loud noises and crowded spaces. These anti-streaming directors can take their "Theater Experience" and shove it up their ass.
nol 07.24.23	“Fuck Nolan and fuck this movie” Jesus man what the fuck
nol 07.24.23	the dark knight is basically a mobster movie and I like mobster movies
fogza 07.24.23	"Also DKR is arguably his worst film, probably a valid reason to hate him lol" DKR is a better movie than DK, also better than interstellar and tenet
Jasdevi087 07.24.23	it absolutely isn't but that's ok
fogza 07.24.23	DK has a few good sequences and heath is incredible in it, but the second half of the movie is an absolute mess. Also Maggie G is abysmal, and so is Eckhart as two face. In fact whenever two face appears with his janky CGI I want to burst out laughing
BaselineOOO 07.24.23	First and last good movie Nolan will ever make - Memento
PotsyTater 07.24.23	“ DKR is a better movie than DK, also better than interstellar and tenet” Fog bro you are above these kinds of caliggyjack tier takes
CaliggyJack 07.24.23	Batman Begins is better than both.
PotsyTater 07.24.23	Bruh your take is worse than caliggys actual take that’s when you know
CaliggyJack 07.24.23	Lmao I love you pots
fogza 07.24.23	Love you too pots but I know I'm right one this one. I'll give you that the pit sequence in DKR is garbage but it doesn't derail the movie. No-one is going to sell me that the boat moral dilemma at the end of DK is good, or anything about the two face resolution, or Bale checking out of the movie halfway through (although if I had to respond to the somewhere over the rainbow scene I'd check out too)
rabidfish 07.24.23	The boat moral dilemma just serves a narrative purpose to put Joker's DIY aesthetic pitted against Batman's next gen surveillance tech. Tech wins over loser terrorist. Id bet if it was for Nolan's sake, he wouldn't even have those scenes on the 2 boats. He don't give a shit about that moral dilemma, the real issue is with what Batman and the Joker represent (immoveable object and unstoppable force)
fogza 07.24.23	the only thing worse than the boat scene was that whole "we must protect harvey dent's legacy or the city will explode" finale (as if), together with that terrible monologue. at least in the dark night rises, the threat was literally that the city would explode
rabidfish 07.24.23	I thought it was consistent with what the movie is about and what the overall batman mythos is about, tbf
MisogynysticTryhard 07.24.23	It drags a bit, wasn’t as suspenseful as I expected, and the visual effects played a much smaller role than I had anticipated. Honestly a bit underwhelming for me. Movie could’ve easily been trimmed 30 minutes. 3.8/5
MeatSalad 07.24.23	It's getting mad overrated but it's still his best since like... Inception
Ryus 07.24.23	"First and last good movie Nolan will ever make - Memento" basedline although oppenheimer does look pretty good. will prob see it sometime soon
henryChinaski 07.24.23	180 minutes is way too long, but I really wanna see it
nol 07.24.23	is it really 3 fucking hours
nol 07.24.23	first half of dark knight is goated but second half still has some really good scenes also two face is great
Colton14 07.24.23	are there any hot babes in oppenheimer
nol 07.24.23	the best part of DK is when the Russian model hides part of Harvey's face and conjectures that he could be Batman but he's obviously not because he's got a very noticeable butt chin
fogza 07.25.23	"also two face is great" Really? I mean each to their own, but it didn't work for me
rabidfish 07.25.23	2 face=Apollo Batman=Saturn Joker=Dionysus/Pan Gordon=Humanity
AlexKzillion 07.25.23	batman = george bush
rabidfish 07.25.23	and Lucius Fox is like... Mercury, ig
Flugmorph 07.25.23	prestige is great
MisogynysticTryhard 07.25.23	Prestige def a 5/5
TalonsOfFire 07.25.23	Yeah Prestige is his best and one of my all time favs.
denboy 07.26.23	what an obnoxious movie