BigHans: Stones Vs Beatles - Hans Breaks It Down

BigHans 12.13.11	m/
newjunkaesthetic93 12.13.11	This seems about right. I think I might have given the Beatles the edge in iconic songs though.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Hahaha Clash of titans. Beatles here.
JamieTwort 12.13.11	I prefer the Stones.
BigHans 12.13.11	I think I do too Jamie but objectively I think the Beatles were a bit better.
Gmork89 12.13.11	The Stones, hands down.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	lol its really not that hard since the rolling stones, despite their cultural importance are laughably overrated the beatles are the best band of all time its not a contest
Jethro42 12.13.11	Hell yesss Stones or Beatles!!!!! That is the question
Gmork89 12.13.11	@NT I hope that's a joke
BigHans 12.13.11	might have to do Zeppelin vs The Who soon.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	@Hans that ones an actual contest but led zeppelin are way more consistent and come on bro listen to jimmy page and then look at the release dates for those albums its like no way
Jethro42 12.13.11	''might have to do Zeppelin vs The Who soon'' Led Zep would slay The Who. And I love The who sooo much.
Dreamflight 12.13.11	The Beatles all the way :)
TheNotrap 12.13.11	ICONIC SONGS Beatles ALBUM CONSISTENCY Beatles Songwriting Ability Beatles INFLUENCE/LEGACY Beatles INNOVATION Beatles LONGEVITY Stones - not fair though VOCALS Difficult to choose...Probably Beatles GUITARS Stones BASS Probably Stones... DRUMS Neither/Tie
Jethro42 12.13.11	For once, I have to agree with thunder.
BigHans 12.13.11	I gave the Stones the iconic songs category because Gimme Shelter is basically the best song ever and Paint it Black is better than any Beatles song.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	longevity isnt fair at all on this list so that part should be omitted. beatles win in every category. including guitars.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	"Paint it Black is better than any Beatles song" you really do bring the lulz
MO 12.13.11	Yea Beatles by a mile on this one.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Humm Just remember all the timeless Beatles classics Hans...
omnipanzer 12.13.11	Bad comparison imo. Other than starting out the same way (R&B covers) in the same era they are really very different bands.
BigHans 12.13.11	I dont know I think the Who vs Zeppelin might be closer than you think. Obviously Bonham is unbeatable but Page vs Townshend is an argument, Entwhistle is probably better than John Paul Jones, and Zeppelin might get knocked for being such blatant rip off artists.
Jethro42 12.13.11	the Beatles, no wait... Dammit
geng 12.13.11	I prefer the Stones' songs to the Beatles' as well, but I wouldn't say that they're more iconic. I think more people could hum the tune to All You Need Is Love than they could to Gimme Shelter.
Gmork89 12.13.11	I would rather listen to LULU than The Beatles.
BigHans 12.13.11	longevity isnt fair at all on this list so that part should be omitted. beatles win in every category. including guitars. ^ maybe it isnt fair but its an important point regardless. Richards/Wood combo > Harrison.
MO 12.13.11	"I would rather listen to LULU than The Beatles." are you daft?!
BigHans 12.13.11	I think more people could hum the tune to All You Need Is Love than they could to Gimme Shelter. ^ Maybe, but more people can hum Satisfaction than any other Beatles song. Why am I talking like Im defending the Stones as if they won, lol
JWT155 12.13.11	Longevity should go to the Beatles, the fact that they haven't been a band since 1970 and are still the most listened to band on last.fm is astounding.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	Per the Stones and the Beatles: Beatles = Vocal driven where the Stones are Guitar Driven from a writing perspective. Almost all Stones songs started with Keith writing the guitar parts and coming up with a hook and almost all the Beatles songs started with the lyrics as they had two lyricists and four lead singers.
JWT155 12.13.11	Songs is a coin-flip but I'd go with the Beatles again as well, you can go to 3rd world countries where they no little to nothing about pop culture and they can prob sing/hum a Beatles tune.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	not completely necessary to know but I just read Life so I thought I'd throw it out there.
Hordewolf 12.13.11	"might have to do Zeppelin vs The Who soon." Now that sounds good.
BigHans 12.13.11	basically if you haven't heard Exile on Main Street, kill yourself.
Activista anti-MTV 12.13.11	There are two kinds of people: elvis or beatles people good list Hans rules
JWT155 12.13.11	That would be good, both iconic bands. Still pissed Peter Townsend didn't smash his guitar at the Super Bowl.
JWT155 12.13.11	And who would win drumming between Zep and the Who?
omnipanzer 12.13.11	I can honestly say I grew up in a Stones/Beatles neutral household and I'd have to say that the Beatles have way more #1's and albums sold. I'd be hard pressed to put Richards against Harrison but Richards would probably win. vocals Beatles for obvious reasons. Showmanship Stones hands down. Drums go to Charlie, Bass is a tie. But the song writing is Beatles not for quality but quality combined with quantity.
BigHans 12.13.11	dude thats not a question Bonham would have won a drumming contest with God.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	"basically if you haven't heard Exile on Main Street, kill yourself." Not my favorite and I'm not alone but I have to agree that people should have at least heard it to make a judgement call.
BigHans 12.13.11	Yeah Omni. My Dad worships the Beatles, jammed Rubber Soul when I was 3. Love both bands. Maybe its just the fact I like RAWK and the Stones are definitely more RAWK, so while the Beatles are in my top 5 bands of all time, I probably listen to the Stones more in the last 15 years.
JWT155 12.13.11	But Keith Moon would blow Bonham up like a hotel toilet before he had a chance to beat him.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	"Maybe its just the fact I like RAWK and the Stones are definitely more RAWK," Agreed, that's not really arguable ;^)
omnipanzer 12.13.11	There is a really funny part in Life where Richards is talking about how Jagger wanted to emulate Bowie in the 80's and Richards was like "dude, you're the original no Bowie, get your head out of your ass" Hahaha. Paraphrasing of course.
BigHans 12.13.11	dude one of Jagger's girlfriends says she walked in on Jagger and Bowie boning.
BigHans 12.13.11	But Keith Moon would blow Bonham up like a hotel toilet before he had a chance to beat him. ^ haha fair point although Bonham was probably the biggest drunk in music history.
sumyunguy 12.13.11	"Although nobody in the history of music has ever had a 5 album run like the Stones did from Beggars Banquet through Goat's Head Soup" I'll do you one better. LZ1 - Physical Graffiti. And that's 6.
BigHans 12.13.11	Sumyun, I wouldnt include Led Zepp 1 in there if you want that to be an argument considering about 75% of the album is straight up ripped off.
Zorak 12.13.11	Beatles
johnnyblaze 12.13.11	Zep > Who by a longggg shot. And no way Entwhistle is better than JPJ - JPJ is so underrated it hurts. I approve this list. Beatles ftw, but the Stones are still the greatest rock n roll band of all time. of all time!
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	led zep 1 is still better than exile
Zorak 12.13.11	Pink Floyd vs. Zep would be cool.
BigHans 12.13.11	led zep 1 is still better than exile ^ hahahahahahahahahahaha
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	rip off or not the songs are better, exile is immensely overrated sorry :(
BigHans 12.13.11	The Who are the best comparison to Zeppelin imo. Idk maybe Deep Purple. Cant think of anyone I would compare Floyd to.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Floyd is incomparable.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	zeppelin is better than the who though by a lot, also not a contest
MO 12.13.11	ooo Deep Purple vs Zep would be such a tough decision for me
Aids 12.13.11	The Beatles > The Rolling Stones I've never really got into The Rolling Stones. They have a handful of songs that I enjoy though.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	their overrated really overrated
newjunkaesthetic93 12.13.11	"I've never really got into The Rolling Stones. They have a handful of songs that I enjoy though." Have you tried listening to Exile or Sticky Fingers though? Those albums rule.
Zorak 12.13.11	Hans, I think you should do that Megadeth v. Metallica list
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	oh god no
BigHans 12.13.11	Dude I did that yesterday
Zorak 12.13.11	Holy shit. I must have missed the whole thread haha. Ill go check that out. Well then how about, Death v Cynic v Atheist? A three way.
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	lol hans u picked megadeth for better lyrics? all credibility lost :(
WeepingBanana 12.13.11	mccartney was an outstanding bassist bro
omnipanzer 12.13.11	"Although nobody in the history of music has ever had a 5 album run like the Stones did from Beggars Banquet through Goat's Head Soup" "I'll do you one better. LZ1 - Physical Graffiti. And that's 6." Run in what way? Help! through Let It Be = 9
omnipanzer 12.13.11	*mccartney is an outstanding bassist bro So is Bill Wyman
NeutralThunder12 12.13.11	somebody who has an actual taste in music that wasn't ripped straight from the rolling stone magazines outlook on music should do like a modern one for indie bands
wabbit 12.13.11	the stones just have so much shit but like exile on mainstreet >>> all the best beatles songs put together.
Nomad 12.13.11	Dude are you gonna do a Hulk Hogan Vs Macho Man Randy Savage list?
Nagrarok 12.13.11	There is no argument, anything pitted against the Beatles stands not a chance to win. Their consistency and innovation alone exceeds that of the Stones by far, whose legendary status I can only grap listening from Beggars Banquet through Exile (heard most of their albums). That said, Gimme Shelter is one of the best songs I've ever heard.
gotsthedewsdood 12.13.11	a lot more people are familiar with beatles classics than stones classics
jefflebowski 12.13.11	A Day In The Life destroys anything the stone sever did except perhaps Gimme Shelter. also, Goat's head soup isn't even good, and as for album runs, how about Dylan: Freewheelin' ----------> Blonde On Blonde
Nomad 12.13.11	Dylan Vs. Bowie would be an awesome match-up
wabbit 12.13.11	but I still think stones should win though because they at least wrote their own music...js
Phideaux 12.13.11	Sweet list. Both great bands.
Zorak 12.13.11	scorpions v motley crue
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	Pink Floyd is severely overrated and the only category they would win would be guitars because David Gilmour is a phenomenal guitarist. They would have a chance for lyrics, consistency, and maybe iconic songs depending on who they're up against. But not sure what influence they really have, drums are subpar, bass is subpar and vocals are subpar. But I never really got into pink floyd so that could change. But it really depends who they're against.
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	and lol "scorpions v motley crue"
geng 12.13.11	Pink Floyd vs King Crimson?
Zorak 12.13.11	^ I was pulling shit out of my ass haha
Maniac! 12.13.11	zeppelin is better than the who though by a lot, also not a contest [2]
Zorak 12.13.11	"Pink Floyd vs King Crimson?" That would be interesting. But I think Floyd would still take the cake.
BigHans 12.13.11	a lot more people are familiar with beatles classics than stones classics ^ The only Beatles song that is as famous as Satisfaction is Yesterday
Trebor. 12.13.11	Ramones vs. The Clash
DoubtGin 12.13.11	Beatles by far... NOT EVEN CLOSE
DominionMM1 12.13.11	"Dude are you gonna do a Hulk Hogan Vs Macho Man Randy Savage list?" should be Hogan vs. ric flair
Jethro42 12.13.11	PinK Floyd are very comparable to Eloy but here again, Pink Floyd wins.
BigHans 12.13.11	"Dude are you gonna do a Hulk Hogan Vs Macho Man Randy Savage list?" ^ I totally could.
BigHans 12.13.11	Ramones vs. The Clash ^ That would be one for Satellite or something. Im not qualified to analyze either of them at this level.
wabbit 12.13.11	"zeppelin is better than the who though by a lot, also not a contest [2]" if you hate music then yes this is true.
BigHans 12.13.11	also, Goat's head soup isn't even good, and as for album runs, how about Dylan ^ Dude have you even heard Angie, Winter, Heartbreaker, and Starfucker?
DominionMM1 12.13.11	floyd vs rush?
Jethro42 12.13.11	Led Zeppelin vs Pink Floyd, I would be in. Led Zep ftw
BigHans 12.13.11	Elton John vs Billy Joel is a great matchup. Trying to think who Cream could go against.
BigHans 12.13.11	If I have Zeppelin in a list theyre either going against The Who or Sabbath.
BigHans 12.13.11	somebody who has an actual taste in music that wasn't ripped straight from the rolling stone magazines outlook on music should do like a modern one for indie bands ^ Why dont you do Opeth vs BTBAM? hundreds of virgins would comment.
Jethro42 12.13.11	But Hans, do they really have to be cousins to compete?
BigHans 12.13.11	But Hans, do they really have to be cousins to compete? ^ I think they have to be similar or at least linked together in some way for the comparison to make sense.
Jethro42 12.13.11	fair enough
DominionMM1 12.13.11	Elton John vs Billy Joel is a great matchup. SAY WHAT? That shouldn't even be close
Zorak 12.13.11	Ke$ha v Randy Orton
BigHans 12.13.11	Elton John vs Billy Joel is a great matchup. SAY WHAT? That shouldn't even be close ^ That would be very close IMO
Jethro42 12.13.11	SINNG US A SONG YOUR THE PIANO MANNNNN SING US A SONG TONIIIIITE
geng 12.13.11	Cream vs Jimi Hendrix Experience?
DominionMM1 12.13.11	I just can't stand billy joel. but that's just me.
jefflebowski 12.13.11	hate to butt in again, but McCartney is probably a better bassist than Wyman IMO
Jethro42 12.13.11	Good call geng, but Cream has no chance.
geng 12.13.11	True dat.
Nagrarok 12.13.11	Cream are probably the most comparable to The Experience but yeah they wouldn't stand a chance.
Jethro42 12.13.11	Man I have hard times to choose 2 prog bands to match up with
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Experience destroy Cream in every area except bass and drums
Jethro42 12.13.11	The drummer of Cream is overrated. Mitch Mitchell is a god.
BigHans 12.13.11	Jethro do Yes vs King Crimson
geng 12.13.11	Having said that, I'm not sure how much of their stuff was actually written by them.
Jethro42 12.13.11	mmmm that's faisable Hans, nice!
JamieTwort 12.13.11	Free vs Ten Years After
Nomad 12.13.11	Talking Heads Vs. Joy Division please
BigHans 12.13.11	Talking Heads in a landslide
DominionMM1 12.13.11	AIC vs Nirvana vs Pearl Jam vs Soundgarden in a 4-way-free-for-all
BigHans 12.13.11	Jamie, do Steppenwolf vs Cream or something m/
newjunkaesthetic93 12.13.11	"Ramones vs. The Clash" Good matchup, but it would be The Clash winning every category except longevity.
Gmork89 12.13.11	AIC should win that but they probably wouldn't.
BigHans 12.13.11	AIC vs Nirvana vs Pearl Jam vs Soundgarden in a 4-way-free-for-all ^ I actually thought of that yesterday, would be massive.
Jethro42 12.13.11	more like Steve Miller band vs Cream, but thats just me.
Jethro42 12.13.11	^massive is the word.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	"Led Zeppelin vs Pink Floyd, I would be in. Led Zep ftw" Not on your life Jethro ;-)
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Mastodon vs Dream Theater?
Jethro42 12.13.11	@Notrap; Pink Floyd = for sputters Led Zep = In my heart
Jethro42 12.13.11	Dream theater vs Rush yeah
JamieTwort 12.13.11	Gary Moore vs Rory Gallagher
Jethro42 12.13.11	That's good JT Gary would win I guess
DominionMM1 12.13.11	kylesa vs baroness
JamieTwort 12.13.11	Yeah he would but it would be close. Obviously I'd have to change a few of the categories (bass and drums).
Jethro42 12.13.11	Symphony X vs Pain of Salvation
Jethro42 12.13.11	Queen vs Led Zeppelin
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Led Zep destroy queen
JamieTwort 12.13.11	Deep Purple vs Led Zeppelin
TheNotrap 12.13.11	B.B. King vs Albert King
Jethro42 12.13.11	I agree Jeff. The two bands have competed hard to be the #1 hard rock band back in the day. @Jamie, Good match, but then again...
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Eric Clapton vs Jeff Beck
JamieTwort 12.13.11	^Good one.
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Mott the Hoople vs Slade
geng 12.13.11	Queen vs Bowie?
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Henry Cow vs Bogshed
DominionMM1 12.13.11	Eric Clapton vs Jeff Beck vs Jimmy Page
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Hatfield and the North vs Caravan vs Gong
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Soft Machine vs King Crimson
Jethro42 12.13.11	Bowie vs Roxy Music. Oh wait, Bowie is a god.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	AC/DC vs Van Halen
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Robert Wyatt vs Bill Bruford vs Pip Pyle
Jethro42 12.13.11	Hatfield and the North vs National Health Caravan vs Gong yesss
Jethro42 12.13.11	Bill Bruford vs Brand X
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Frupp vs Stackridge the ultimate english whimsy-off
Jethro42 12.13.11	Robert Wyatt vs Talk Talk
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Al Di Meola vs Pat Metheny
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Talk Talk vs Roxy Music
Jethro42 12.13.11	Soft Machine vs Caravan =/= King Crimson, Jeff.
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Simple Minds vs U2
Jethro42 12.13.11	VERRRY good call Notrap. The Metheny discog is huuuge though
Jethro42 12.13.11	Al di Meola THINKS hes a god Pat Merheny IS a god so...
Jethro42 12.13.11	Metheny*
DominionMM1 12.13.11	Danzig vs Misfits
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Aretha Franklin vs Etta James
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Arab Strap vs Frightened Rabbit The war of the scottish miserablists
Jethro42 12.13.11	Frightened Rabbit is indie indie is crap
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Sodom vs Kreator
JamieTwort 12.13.11	^ m/
FrankRedHot 12.13.11	How in the fuck, Hans, do the Stones have more iconic songs?
BigHans 12.13.11	They dont have more. They have close to as many, and theirs are better IMO.
BigHans 12.13.11	Queen vs Bowie? ^ Not bad. AC/DC vs Van Halen ^ another good idea, although VH is so much more glam than AC/DC
BigHans 12.13.11	Eric Clapton vs Jeff Beck ^ This is actually a very good comparison. Jamie or Notrap should do it though, because while I am pretty familiar with Claptons stuff my experience with Beck is limited.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	Next: Paul Simon vs. Billy Joel Vs. Elton John ;^)
BigHans 12.13.11	Skynyrd vs Allman Brothers would be epic
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Let's say VH it's more US rock oriented but both bands have similarities.
BigHans 12.13.11	Omni, already planned to do John vs Joel. But maybe you should do that one, I think you might know more about each than I do.
omnipanzer 12.13.11	Let me see if I can get some time before the end of the week, been hammered lately.
BigHans 12.13.11	Categories i would do for that one Iconic songs, vocals, songwriting, influence/legacy/, piano playing, Innovation, Longevity.
BigHans 12.13.11	oh and album consistency of course
JumpTheShark 12.13.11	I dont like either of them all that much
Jethro42 12.14.11	Peter Gabriel vs David Bowie
omnipanzer 12.14.11	"zeppelin is better than the who though by a lot, also not a contest" Zep has more iconic songs but I think the Who are more historically relevant. "Trying to think who Cream could go against." Pick another great supergroup (it's only fair). Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Derek and the Dominos
Gmork89 12.14.11	Korn vs Bizkit would be hilarious.
NightProwler 12.17.11	Put in the Who vs. these two, and they'd win on both bass, drums and vocals - although The Rolling Stones is my favorite band, the Who'd still kick their asses on that matter.
NightProwler 12.17.11	And yeah, do Billy Joel vs. Elton John!
Ovrot 12.17.11	I prefer King Crimson
mandan 03.21.12	Nice face-off. I like the Beatles, but I personally prefer the Stones.
Inveigh 08.05.13	I would like to see Thin Lizzy vs Deep Purple
mandan 06.05.14	The Stones will always live under the shadow of the Beatles, 'tis a fact of life. But I think the Stones were the manlier, grittier, and more socially connected band. However, that's just my opinion.
mandan 02.18.24	Hot take, but I slightly prefer Jagger vocally to Lennon & McCartney. The latter annoy me in places. Also I could listen to the Stones for 3-5 days straight. Doing that with the Beatles is harder for my ears. Ultimately, we all have different taste.
SomeCallMeTim 02.18.24	that's not at all a hot take, that's an accurate take