fr33convict: Songs To Learn For Vocal Practice?

fr33convict 04.07.11	My voice is in the baritone area but my range is actually pretty good. So anyway...
Trebor. 04.07.11	Nude by Radiohead is a really good warm up range song.
eternium 04.07.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEGWCNTm6g
americanmusicmachine 04.07.11	"darn that dream" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Rr5kmmmdE
fr33convict 04.07.11	I'm going to learn how to scream after I get my singing down a bit better. I downloaded two DVD's (Zen of Screaming I think?) that Rhandy Blythe used and since he's my favorite screamer I figured it must work haha. I just want to get used to my voice a bit better before I get into that kind of thing.
East Hastings 04.07.11	stuff by incubus is great for warming up, brandon boyd has awesome range that he utilizes well over different songs
jayfatha 04.07.11	System of a Down has some good vocal-practice songs.
Spec 04.07.11	Once you get to screaming you should use VIP by The Casualties. That's how I learned to scream.
Trebor. 04.07.11	Screaming is fun, but don't push yourself. Do it everyday until your throat hurts a little bit, but don't go too far. Drinking honey afterwards helps.
Emim 04.07.11	Sing it loud and proud in the shower.
Trebor. 04.07.11	The shower has great acoustics
fr33convict 04.07.11	I guess the thing with screaming is that it's not supposed to hurt. It's supposed to be effortless and strain your voice less than a yell and singing out of your range but it hurts my throat a bit when I try. Once I get my singing down a bit better I was going to get some help from my bands vocalist. All I can do right now is the Nile-esque growls and the Dethklok-style straight up guttarals.
Emim 04.07.11	All I can really do with any proficiency are inhaled growls, which from what I understand basically anyone can do.
Trebor. 04.07.11	It's supposed to hurt a little. Always warm up before.
Emim 04.07.11	twss
flalafell 04.07.11	honestly i learned how to scream well using the contortionist's last album, the guy has a really basic style thats easy to pick up, at least for me it was
fr33convict 04.07.11	Exoplanet or the one before that? It's also hard for me because to do a mid-growl I've actually have to bring my voice up a bit.
Trebor. 04.07.11	You should be able to scream ups and downs the same way as singing. Like starting low and climbing up.
CrisStyles 04.07.11	Maybe listen to some of the Rolling Stones stuff? Pay attention to how Mick Jagger and Keith Richards complement each other on certain songs, like Wild Horses. I do lead and backup but I just sing, I'm not the best at recommending songs for vocals though.
fr33convict 04.07.11	Yeah that would be interesting. I've still got to work on playing guitar and singing at the same time so anything complicated might not be easy to do yet but it's something I definitely need to work on. Thanks! And I was planning on asking this in the forums but I am curiously banned from them for a week with no explanation lol.
Wolfhorde 04.07.11	Well, for practice I'd say just do the songs that fit your style. About screaming: There is a throat singing introduction on YT, that's a great start for technical screaming and maybe try to bring your own voice in a bit while screaming.
fr33convict 04.07.11	I'm probably going to do a more melodic metalcore type of screaming (can't remember the damn word I'm too tired) simply because I want to be able to keep my voice and what not. If you do the other types of screaming you'll fuck up you're singing ability pretty bad, and I'm primarily planning on singing.
Wolfhorde 04.07.11	Sorry, but that's bollocks. That only happens if you do techniques that damage your vocal chords, which doesn't happen if you do it technically right and don't force yourself. Which is something you should feel if you have a decent feeling for your singing.
fr33convict 04.07.11	I'm not talking about permanent damage. Try screaming like that a bit and then going into your head voice, passiago, or falsetto. It sounds like shit. It kills your vocal range temporarily. Yeah you're voice isn't permanately damaged but in a live situation where you do both not being able to sing well is a problem. I'm plenty confident in my singing ability.
fr33convict 04.07.11	And just to clarify I'm not exactly sure what style of screaming you're talking about since I haven't looked into it yet and I'm fairly new to the terminology for screaming so if I'm misunderstanding and my assumption up there is wrong than I'm sorry :)
Wolfhorde 04.07.11	That also depends on your technical abilities and from where to where you want to go. Of course it might be bad if you have a low voice like baritone or bass and then go from low growl to high pitched clear vocals. But you can train those changes. SikTh pull that off pretty good in the song "Tupelo".
SirFeonix 04.07.11	So many hate his vocals, but I too love Randy's vocals, definitely not the most brutal or technical but they're hell vicious
Dodenakker 04.07.11	Rebecca Black - Friday.. Anyone?! No seriously: Maybe some Textures? Or Pain of Salvation.. Or Tool..
witchxrapist 04.07.11	Try singing along with the backing sections on Chiodos' first album.
InjunJoe 04.07.11	"Oh My Fucking God" by Strapping Young Lad
Puzzles 04.07.11	Meshuggah - Electric Red The Dillinger Escape Plan - Panasonic Youth Red Hot Chili Peppers - Get Up And Jump Wesley Willis - My Mother Smokes Crack Rocks
Spare 04.07.11	oh look this thread about singing devolves into a thread about screaming how helpful. learn SCALES you jackass.
witchxrapist 04.07.11	Yeah, you're clearly best off learning scales, but singing actual songs helps you with figuring out STAYYYYLLLL.
promiseswept 04.07.11	yeah melissa cross is good, if you actually watch both zens of screaming stick with the program, it will pay off late. screaming is the shit
witchxrapist 04.07.11	The only thing I've stuck with from Cross is the low hum warm up thing. She's really NOT that helpful unless you go in for 8 million dollar lessons. I've been skrammin since I was 15 (22 now) and my singing voice is better than its ever been.
promiseswept 04.07.11	yeah the best method is just time and learning what works best for you
MunsuLight 04.07.11	Oh god, a baritone too. What is your range? I say begin with stuff more in your range, so anything by Radiohead and Muse is not a good starting point even their lower range stuff since they're tenors and singing D4 and higher is easy for them . Also, pretty much all singers these days are tenor, so finding stuff is harder. I did begin with some "alto" stuff singing and octave lower. I did tried some "classical" bass stuff but the thing is my range doesn't really go under a E2, but it really helped me being stronger in these range. After that, stuff that is alike to what you put here, trying to belt the higher notes and when I was unable to, I just used falsetto. Also get a singing teacher , because he will surely help you with how to "project" your sound more. At first, I was singing with power but putting too much strain on them because I didn't know how to do it.
witchxrapist 04.07.11	Yar, I be a tenor. =^.^=
MunsuLight 04.07.11	Tenor doesn't have balls......(not really but I find their voice so near of women).
witchxrapist 04.07.11	yeah but the range helps me do siqq grind vokillz (like the sawtooth grin)
MunsuLight 04.07.11	Stop talking like that -_-
witchxrapist 04.07.11	Nigga don't tell me how to speak.
fr33convict 04.07.11	@Munsu: My comfortable range is about 3 octaves (from what I can tell from practicing and after warming up) so it's not as hard as you would think. It's also good to sing in the upper area of you range to help stretch it. I also just bring it down into my range if I can't hit the higher notes. Also, after the summer I am planning on getting a vocal teacher I just don't have the money to start yet. @Spare: I do a lot of vocal warmups, which includes plenty of scales thank you very much. :P
MunsuLight 04.07.11	With or without falsetto three octaves? I'm kinda skeptical about 3 octaves without falsetto. Mine without falsetto would be from E2 to a A4 confortable. With falsetto, I don't know really know because none of the thing I sang did get higher than my range. For stretching range, I know that . When I first began to sing, I couldn't go higher than a C4 which was basically pathetic. It is good to exploit your lower range too. I found that some my friends who sing tend to not exploit the mellowness in it
Crimson Death 04.07.11	Opeth is always good to practice if you're Baritone, I'm a Bass so I can get the lower ones. I found Ghost Reveries to be the best Opeth album to practice from. Are you at 3 octaves including falsetto or no? What notes can you go from? I'm able to scale the piano from C1 to C4-E4 depending on the day, w/o falsetto. The National is perfect for me to practice. Look up "Aussie Vocal Coach" on youtube, his free youtube lessons are very helpful, like the riffs/runs, breathing exercises, vibrato and his warm up is very good as well.
Crimson Death 04.07.11	@MunsuLight I want to hit A4-B4 so badly!!! I feel like most of my favorite tracks are at the point where I have to strain to hit them, but they don't feel completely out of reach
fr33convict 04.07.11	With falsetto but I'm not that good at using it yet so I only get a couple of notes out of it well haha. I practice with my acoustic not a piano so I'm not really sure what the name you would use (C3 as opposed to C4) but I can go from the lowest G to E to F# on the highest string.
fr33convict 04.07.11	Which is just under or at 3 octaves.
Crimson Death 04.07.11	http://www.play-piano.org/ Use that, it's simple. I don't play anything, so I wouldn't know. I might be able to tell by ear though. Don't worry about falsetto, work on your full voice first. Mine sounds literally retarded, it's because I always used falsetto voice to mimic stupid sounding people, I guess it kind of stuck. It's slowly improving though, I guess.
MunsuLight 04.07.11	Today I'm not able to hit the A4 . Fuck my shows scraped it.. Really need to have some vocal rest. Damn it. And Damn you C1, so low Like 3 octaves under the middle C. But maybe you wanted to say C2 too which is already low . I also sing in a choir(yeah, who cares), and they place me in the bass. I hate seing note under the "portée"
Crimson Death 04.07.11	My C1 is really breathy, probably not within my comfortable zone, but E1 on the other hand I could probably do pretty comfortably. And yeah, Middle C is towards the top of my range. w/ Falsetto I believe I'm up to F5. Or actually, Munsu, is that online piano I posted legit? Because if the numbers are off then what I'm saying is off.
MunsuLight 04.07.11	I highly doubt about C1 being really a C1 here. Going under C2 is so rare these day, it's maybe why I'm skeptical about yours. No, the thing works ok. Like I said the C1 to C2 sound on the piano kinda suck but near the truth. And F5 with Falsetto is great. I try to practice it more, because I'm not that proficient with it taking my range around yours. But I'm able to go higher but with strain so I doesn't want to
Crimson Death 04.07.11	Well let me say that I've never found a song that was too low for me to sing, if you can find me one that is too low for me I'm up for the challenge haha. But most songs (or at least parts of them) tend to be too high for me. My falsetto sounds terrible like I mentioned earlier. Nevermind, I'm only up to a C5 on Falsetto, I could have sworn I was at an F5 before. Maybe it's the sinus infection I have right now, I dunno.
MunsuLight 04.08.11	You already go on C4 without it, be happy about it. I never seen a note as low as in the C2 and under range in sheet music. C2 is the lower I've seen. Most of the time it's harmonized so it sound like it, like in some Queen songs. What I found funny it's that some women in my choir didn't go as high as me, but one with an incredible range did go to a D2 -_- (and she is a soprano going in the whistle register(the C6 range) without falsetto). God I need to see the band I'm in. I'm tired of singing classical things or some folk or semi-popular thing.
Yotimi 04.08.11	Antony and the Johnsons - Hope There's Someone
Prince1993 04.24.11	Try, 'Stockholm Syndrome' by Muse.
Captain North 04.24.11	I've never understood how to scream without it hurting your throat.
Wolfhorde 04.24.11	That's why the best tutorial therefore is throat singing, because you use the same vocal "chords" (if some didn't know, you only partially use your "normal" vocal chords for screaming). With a bit of technique it's actually pretty easy.