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TheMightyScoop 12.29.18	Rachels, Talk Talk, Swans, Slint, and Bark Psychosis are some pretty major ones
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	Mogwai and maybe Mono
Kompys2000 12.29.18	As someone who doesn't know much about post rock I can say I've heard of the first three but I've never heard of Do Make Say Think. Make of that what you will.
Jasdevi087 12.29.18	yeah Mogwai instead of DMST
DANcore 12.29.18	Conversation begins with Slint if you ax me
Doibhin69 12.29.18	I've listened to top three bands but not #4
zaruyache 12.29.18	Mogwai, EitS, Godspeed, Sigur. DMST are a more hidden gem.
hal1ax 12.29.18	talk talk
dimsim3478 12.29.18	"Mogwai, EitS, Godspeed, Sigur." ya this looks about right. i wouldnt say DMST are "hidden" but they're definitely not on the same level of popularity.
StrikeOfTheBeast 12.29.18	Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax are usually consid... oh wait wrong thread.
splinter 12.29.18	Where is God Is An Astronaut?
Sinternet 12.29.18	GIAA are great obviously but they're not as weĺ known as some of these guys I'd say 65daysofstatic have a good shout of being here
Flugmorph 12.29.18	swans
LunaticSoul 12.29.18	65dos, Sigur, Mogwai for personal preference I'd add Maybeshewill over GYBE but their importance is massive in the post-rock realm.
Viriathus 12.29.18	Swans have waaaaay too many different genres they play to be put into a Big 4 of Post-Rock type of thing
onionbubs 12.29.18	jus swap dmst w mogwai n you there
Flugmorph 12.29.18	moog thats almost like saying neurosis are too different to be considered post metal or meshuggah are too different to be considered djent
Viriathus 12.29.18	Meshuggah and Neurosis experiment with different sounds but they still stick to their genres. Swans changes genres too much to lump them in as Post-Rock, its blanketing their whole discog.
Flugmorph 12.29.18	they helped birth the post rock genre tho, thats what im referring to
Viriathus 12.29.18	Yeah but they never started out as that nor did they stick to it. Seems weird to put them as representation of Post-Rock imo Swans are too well established as a band that shifts so much.
Sniff 12.29.18	just swap dmst with mogwai [200]
Relinquished 12.29.18	top 5 would include dmst
widowslaugh123 12.29.18	Dmst is my favorite. Only heard random Mogwai songs never jammed a full album. Where should I start?
Doibhin69 12.29.18	Young Team
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	Swans only released one post-rock album in the 90s. And it was far from what most were doing at the time. Their recent works are way to late to the club I'd say big four are Talk Talk Slint Tortoise GYBE
sizeofanocean 12.29.18	just swap dmst with mogwai [200²]
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.18	I've always heard about Mogwai but I've never heard of Do Make Say Think. The other three are obvious shoe-ins. But there is some amazing post-rock out there besides the majors. Yndi Halda, Moonlit Sailor, Pg. 99, The Antlers....
botb 12.29.18	Instead of 4 I’d have mono otherwise yep
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.18	@sin All Is Violent, All Is Bright has 900 votes you should know better than to say that. They got like 400 or 500 votes on DMST's most rated album.
PistolPete 12.29.18	Swans were not originally post-rock. Swans cannot be categorized. Swans will invade your dreams and nightmares.
widowslaugh123 12.29.18	Just listened to young team. It was pretty good but if that’s their best album they don’t deserve to be in the big4 imo
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	too much crescendocore
TheSpaceMan 12.29.18	2nd worst genre
BallsToTheWall 12.29.18	Mono > Sigur
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	"2nd worst genre" - post 2000s yeah
SitarHero 12.29.18	Mogwai and Slint I've never heard of Do Make Say Think
zaruyache 12.29.18	problem is there are essentially three/four distinct waves of post-rock, developed similarly to black metal so asking for the top 4 is kinda hard unless you specify which era you mean. Kinda like asking for top bm and sticking Celtic Frost next to Windir. there's: 1. early/mid 80s: proto-post-rock like Dif Juz and experimental dream pop 2. late 80's/early 90s: first "real" post-rock like Talk Talk, Tortoise, Slint 3. mid 90's: post-rock as its own real genre, not just a hybrid anymore: Godspeed, Mogwai, Sigur Ros, DMST 4. 2000s+: "modern" post-rock, crescendocore
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	What do you mean not a hybrid?
SitarHero 12.29.18	Pretty sure we're talking only about eras 2 and 3 (if there's a difference). Everything before wasnt post rock and erything after isn't influential
DamnVanne 12.29.18	Russian Circles Godspeed Russian Circles Sigur Ros, I guess
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	"Just listened to young team. It was pretty good but if that’s their best album they don’t deserve to be in the big4 imo" Give Come On Die Young a jam and see if you feel the same. Tbh the appeal of Mogwai is more consistency between albums than any 11/10 individual moments - they're kinda the opposite of Slint in the sense that they never released anything phenominal (some might disagree over Young Team), but they did put out so many solid albums that they deserve something of a legacy
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	Sigur = Godspeed > Mono > Mogwai > Explosions In The Sky in any case. Talk Talk, Slint, Tortoise and Bark Psychosis are all obviously essential bands with monumental albums, but I don't feel that their sounds defined post-rock as much as they shaped it (i.e. they paved the way for the bands whose sound better encapsulates what the genre turned into)
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	The think with Mogwai is that they were the first band to really utilise and combine the techniques of early slowcore and post-rock pioneers. The popularity and refined quality of Come On Die Young is the major catalyst for post-rock.
widowslaugh123 12.29.18	Surprise at the lack of knowledge on dmst. I thought hey were huge around these parts. Check em dudes they got multiple great albums
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	Yeah, I'd never heard of them before this list - definitely interested to hear them though!
widowslaugh123 12.29.18	Don’t forget the quotation marks
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Sniff 12.29.18	you're not a post rock fan if you haven't heard dmst
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GhandhiLion 12.29.18	"you're not a post rock fan if you haven't heard dmst" eww
zaruyache 12.29.18	"What do you mean not a hybrid?" talk talk was weird nu jazz, slint was math rock, post-hardcore, and spoken word, tortoise was goofy jazz rock with electronics and krautrock; their influences were distinct and separate ideas pasted together. Later bands took all those influences and wove them together into a more general genre. now adays when a post-rock band does weird stuff you don't go "o that's krautrock" you just say it's an element that was made part of post-rock instead of being a unique influence.
GhandhiLion 12.29.18	^i disagree. I treat post-punk the same way. There are a variety of styles within the catch em all term. Difference is post-rock has for the most part devolved into crescendocore. Modern post-rock isnt more general. They took 90% of influence from Explosions in the Sky (interpreting GYBE). There are few post 90's post-rock bands that have elements of Talk Talk, krautrock or minimalism.
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	"talk talk was weird nu jazz, slint was math rock, post-hardcore, and spoken word, tortoise was goofy jazz rock with electronics and krautrock; their influences were distinct and separate ideas pasted together. Later bands took all those influences and wove them together into a more general genre" ^this. "They took 90% of influence from Explosions in the Sky" This is 100% why post-rock turned into bedroom-project loop pedal-core horseshite. Explosions had their share of moments but were nowhere near a good enough band to deserve the impact they had on the genre
SitarHero 12.29.18	"talk talk was weird nu jazz, slint was math rock, post-hardcore, and spoken word, tortoise was goofy jazz rock with electronics and krautrock; their influences were distinct and separate ideas pasted together. Later bands took all those influences and wove them together into a more general genre. now adays when a post-rock band does weird stuff you don't go "o that's krautrock" you just say it's an element that was made part of post-rock instead of being a unique influence." Then aren't we disagreeing on what the genre of post-rock is? Pearl Jam and Soundgarden (for instance) are considered to be two of the big 4 of Grunge even though their sounds are vastly different and they're not even really contemporaries seeing as how they were formed 6 years apart. Soundgarden was alive and kicking well before Eddie Vedder came along and became the voice of grunge. But that doesn't mean the bands can't both be considered equally influential and identifiable with the "genre" of grunge.
Deathconscious 12.29.18	GYBE EITS Bark Psychosis And uhhh idk Mogwai or something As far as my own personal top 4, the list would be very different, although Bark Psychosis would still be there.
JohnnyoftheWell 12.29.18	Wait a second, DMST have overlap with Broken Social Scene??
teamster 12.29.18	pg.lost Caspian Tides From Nebula Sleepmakeswaves
widowslaugh123 12.30.18	Just listened to come on die young and liked it more than young team but it still didn’t kick my ass or anything. Both those records are pretty solid tho
JohnnyoftheWell 12.30.18	Haha CODY isn't an ass-kicker, it's more the kinda album that stalks your neighbourhood
Relinquished 12.30.18	that's one way to look at it
JohnnyoftheWell 10.24.19	Late bump to this list as a thank you for getting me into DMST. Great band, way better than Mono, Explosions in the Sky and (in the long run, I guess) Mogwai - I've had a great time picking through their discog and finally finished the other day
GhandhiLion 10.24.19	Late bump to ask what everyone thinks of the new Explosions in the sky song. https://youtu.be/s8SrerotCV8