combustion07: Have to Quit Smoking Weed and I'm sad about it

combustion07 11.28.18	I can still drink I guess but currently can't hold down anything like that. I'm ready for beer
TheSpaceMan 11.28.18	sucks man but like yeah just dont smoke you'll survive (:
GhostB1rd 11.28.18	Bruh start listening to happier music.
Eons 11.28.18	It's very very lame not gonna lie. Being sober. I just try to fill my life with shit to keep me busy. The worst thing to do is sit around with nothing to do. I think that alcohol, and weed in particular, when you do both a lot you start to piss away a lot of time. So when you get sober it's like the days just drag by. So you better find some shit to do.
GhostB1rd 11.28.18	Lol how tf do y'all have so much time. Between work, girls, family, friends, and hobbies I got like negative eight hours a day to fuck around with.
Funeralopolis 11.28.18	start lifting - it eats up all your free time, makes you more mentally stable, gives you testosterone and dopamine which makes you feel good.
Eons 11.28.18	Well I don't anymore but I used to. When I got sober I had to figure out what the fuck I'm doing in life. Remember though, women are the ultimate drug. I mean I really value having leisure time. I get extremely stressed if my schedule is completely full. All my hobbies are mostly able to be done at home since I paint and make music and have a small studio here. Did I mention women are the ultimate drug?
hal1ax 11.28.18	take kratom
GhostB1rd 11.28.18	My brother has a job, a newborn, a girlfriend, and graduate school. Talk about having free time.
Eons 11.28.18	Sounds terrible. Poor guy. You should hire him a hooker and buy him some drugs. Be a good brother.
combustion07 11.28.18	Fuck some kratom, I'm only 3 months clean from a more than half my life opiate addiction lol. Actually started lifting last year and that definitely helps, I dropped it these past few weeks since it's been nonstop puking, plan to pick it back up for sure though. I play guitar so that's where most of my time has been going. When you've been on some drugs majority of your life though lemme tell you it feels weird stopping. Don't know how to be normal.
Hawks 11.28.18	Damn bro that blows. :[
combustion07 11.28.18	The weed was the only thing bringing my appetite back so that's really the main hurdle now. And Ghost metal makes me pretty happy. Riffs are cool
combustion07 11.28.18	Yes sir Hawks, we just got medical passed in my state too starting January :/ Was all happy about these weed stores and it's been snatched from me!
Grimlin 11.28.18	Is it the smoking or the weed? I switched to vaping flower and/or concentrates a few years back, and all the negative aspects I'd ever experienced with weed disappeared completely.
combustion07 11.28.18	You know they didn't specifically tell me which but I've got a big packet to read. I may give some concentrates a go depending on what I read
hal1ax 11.28.18	did heroin for 9-10 years breh. i take kratom from time-to-time. not optimal but it really hasn't hindered me in any way. i take breaks every couple weeks.. don't crave it, don't withdrawal.. keep it very minimal and can manage it well. idk about u doe
combustion07 11.28.18	I may actually give that a shot. Dabbling anything opiate related just freaks me out because I've still got a good deal of people hitting my phone trying to sell me shit daily
combustion07 11.28.18	I weened off suboxone for a few months before quitting. Don't think I'll go back though seen too many friends od, murdered, etc
hal1ax 11.28.18	oh goodness my man i was on subs for like 2 years.. was worst kick of my life. way worse / more perennial than h kick or even fentanyl or oxycontin kick. i aint tryin to rock the boat too hard for you, given you seem to be doing ok right now and are still sort of fresh sounding in your sobriety.. was just tryin to convey what works for me. anyway, i started on kratom because work and school was becoming so stressful i was beginning to crave a bit and it was really unsettling so i sought the stuff out and it's actually worked out pretty well since. my thinking was, since the stress was getting so bad (and yea in hindsight i prob shouldve just worked on better stress coping skills), it felt like it wasn't worth slipping with how bad my cravings were so.. opted out. but ya dude everyone figures it out differently.. hope it all works out 4 u
Grimlin 11.28.18	Yeah, man. Give vaping a shot. Unless you're just allergic to weed somehow, I don't see how it could hurt you. But be sure it's low temperature (between 360-380F if you can help it). Coughing is probably something you don't want and keeping it low temperature would help with that. That said, you'd probably need to buy a mid to high end device with good temp control to get the results you'd like. Check out Storz and Bickel, the makers of the Volcano. Their stuff ain't cheap, but they are well build, last a long time and produce great results. Obviously, do what you want, but this is the best advice I can give you if you don't want to quit.
TheSpaceMan 11.28.18	if you were able to curb opiates (thats huge man, stay strong) then you have the willpower in you to not smoke weed
Avagantamos 11.28.18	kratom was really clutch for me when I couldn't smoke because of probation. also it's not an opiate just a partial mu-opioid receptor agonist meaning it just binds to the same receptors
Storm In A Teacup 11.28.18	are you sure it's not just your diet? put yourself on keto for a full 6 weeks and report back.
hal1ax 11.28.18	@ avagant, amen brother
Hawks 11.28.18	I have a THC oil pen and it’s amazing. Not harsh on the throat and gets you wrecked off like 2 hits. Might be able to give that a try bro.
BAT 11.28.18	Legit surprised im not the only person who knows about kratom. Id rec it over alcohol but it iss still druggy, never been into pills personally. white borneo ftw.
hal1ax 11.28.18	white borneo / white maeng da / white malaysian tbh
BAT 11.28.18	haven't tried malaysian, yeeeet. maeng das are solid but balis usually go easier on my stomach. but yeah i've been smoking weed half my life at this point, my family still smokes more than i do.
combustion07 11.28.18	The way I got off I actually spent a year still doing them and trying to build up some stress coping skills before I even tried to kick the habit. I was deep in though selling and doing a whole lot of risky shit. I see what you mean with the subs though, definitely wasn't easy to kick. I just noticed everyone at the meetings I was going to had been on them for about 8 years and quickly realized it was't really made to get you off of drugs instead it was made as a substitute that costs twice as much in this state than if you had a prescription to an actual opiate. Pretty fucked the way that system works really. I may give kratom a go just a little weary about it working on the same receptors and potentially dragging me back into the whole scene I just escaped. If I go back I'm gonna die, I just get too into it and then end up going into self destruct mode (200 mg of oxy, 30 shots of whiskey daily). Will check into those grim, I used the Volcano years back and loved it. Don't mind dropping some cash considering how much I have to play with being off the opiates. And storm I'll have to do some research on keto but since this started I've basically only been able to hold down baked chicken with no seasonings and apples. It'd be nice if it is just my diet though. Admittedly I'm not the healthiest person obviously lol. One of my people just hit me up trying to sell me some pens so I'm gonna take that as a sign lol
hal1ax 11.28.18	yea so suboxone was designed for expedient use under the harm reduction / wean sort of philosophy, and as a necessary replacement to methodone. it's intended duration of use, if i recall correctly, was like 1-3 months, throughout which one is obviously titrating down their doses. but what you've seen, which is exactly what i've seen, is pain management docs keeping people on subs for 5+ years.. no titration whatsoever.. fuck i know someone who's been on 4mg a day for 5 years lol.. it's horrible man. and tbh if you are sketching out on kratom just forego it for now...
combustion07 11.28.18	They had a girl at my doc on 3 8mg strips a day 8 years in. I'm actually going back to the meeting tomorrow to tell everybody I quit and that they should do the same. It's a scam the way they've got it setup. I've been going each week since I stopped acting like I'm still on it and I swear they sound more fiendy than most the fiends I know. Oblivious to it though. I may give some kratom a go later on but I feel like I should hit the 6 month mark first. Already cut everybody off and really that was the hardest part for me because that was literally everyone I've known since grade school
hal1ax 11.28.18	damn buddy i feel you on severing the social system... tis very rough. hopefully you have some support elsewhere though. and you will be attracting other types of people now whom are adoptive of a lifestyle more akin to your own. and lmao 24mg a day? that is straight up malpractice holy shit... i remember when i first got on them taking the whole 8mg strip and feeling fucking faded... and i was using like 1g of black a day so... yea. them bitches aint no joke
combustion07 11.28.18	Yeah the doctor treated it like a serve the first time I went in and it immediately clicked that I might as well be in a dopehouse that takes insurance. I can't even picture what 24mg would feel like 8 had me gone as well. She also gave birth to the first suboxone baby in our state and it had to be weened at birth. I'm ready for attracting the new people part though already starting to notice that for sure. I'm a bit socially awkward minus the drugs but I'm slowly figuring it out. Cheers
hal1ax 11.28.18	good stuff buddy. getting clean is actually easy it's life that's hard. just gotta be strong and really be an active part in the upkeep of your sobriety. it is nice to not have to live as a silhouette of a person anymore tho.. prob for the first time in a while. the anhedonia starts to thaw off and you remember that you actually like shit... have interests, etc. anyway, it'll be a process but,, you have more power than you know. i wish you the best
hal1ax 11.28.18	oh and if u ever want/need to talk hit me up anytime
combustion07 11.28.18	Will do man. Thanks for all the insight
THVRTVVN 11.28.18	funny that i see this cause i smoke constantly, have been dryheaving randomly, thinking it might be ulcers, been taking meds to counteract, and it hasn't gone away. maybe i should try the whole sober thing. not a fan
StrikeOfTheBeast 11.28.18	Welp as a wise man once told me, When you come clean of one addiction, you slave to another one in exchange. I won't exactly recommend you get addicted to something else to help you ween, but life sucks and then we die so pick your poison.
Relinquished 11.28.18	yea I switched to THC carts years ago. thing is that's another headache to dive in cuz that part of the weed industry is kinda shady, so if you get them make sure it's not being mixed with weird shit. I flew to Cali and spent a couple racks on nearly 25 carts from a company that stays passing the lab testings. fuckin worth it to stack up back home when you're thousands of miles away.
combustion07 12.02.18	I grabbed a few called Brass Knuckles for now and so far have had no problems and have been more roasted than before. Success!
Grimlin 12.02.18	Glad to here it!
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	kratoms dope hal never been opiate dependent i just down some time to time to chill / ease some muscle pain from lifting
EphemeralEternity 12.02.18	Every time you feel like having a toke pop an E instead
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	i hope i never get that rare weed vomit disease tho my life will have no meaning
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	self deprecating not srs humor but yeah fuck that would suck youll get used to not doing it after a few weeks tho dude youll like forget what its like and therefore not really want to do it
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	sup andrew careful with the e's thatll fuck ur happy receptors propa
EphemeralEternity 12.02.18	I’m aware but honestly 4-6 hours of intense euphoria several times per year interspersed by possibly lower periods is arguably better than a lifetime of very mild highs and tedium
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	yeeee one huned everybody should experience mdma if only because its kills peoples insecurity and makes them more empathetic, truly therapeutic if done propa
hal1ax 12.02.18	yea kratom is chillin. even the dudes i know who take like 50g a day, which is ridiculous, barely kick from it when they stop. they say it just feels like they have the flu for a couple days... which is a godsend compared to real opiate withdrawal. but ye helps a ton with tension and inflammation and shit fr
nol 12.02.18	I’m scared that if I did mdma I’d do it wrong and it’d fuck me up hard. I do really bad with crashes emotionally, I pr much can’t take stimulants anymore which sucks
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	yeah i heard you can have mild withdrawals which i avoid by not doing it a bunch of days in a row but its seemingly the least common denominator, godsend for people with the itch, good to see it growing in popularity it is no doubt saving lives
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	mdma comedown can be harsh yeah
nol 12.02.18	I generally stick to psychedelics lately, but I’ve been feeling withdrawn the past year cuz of it, like I don’t really care to go out and meet people anymore, so I have a feeling I’d dig mdma, trying to expand a little but always wanna do it in moderation
EphemeralEternity 12.02.18	I’d argue it’s actually safe as fuck as long as a) pills are pure and tested if possible b) appropriate dosage taken. c) rolls are spread out with at least a month in between to give seretonin a chance to replenish d) not taking any SSRIs or medication that could counteract. e) you remain hydrated It’s definitely helped me feel more of a connection to others which extends long after the roll has finished and the comedowns are usually gentle if it’s good stuff.
hal1ax 12.02.18	feeling withdrawn because psychedelics?? hmm.. how do you figure ? think it could be because of something else? and you're correlating it to psychs? and ya mdma comedown aint no joke
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	yeah gotta strike a balance too much of anything isnt good although i think the diminished need for social affirmation that comes with psych use is generally super healthy, debatable i guess if you do a moderate dose and follow the supplement guidelines online you can get away without too harsh of a comedown, they seem to get worse with consecutive experiences anyway and arent too bad at first that said if youre apprehensive i wouldnt bother, not worth stressin over
hal1ax 12.02.18	ye the SSRI point is a serious one. don't want to stack those two
nol 12.02.18	Psychs make me conscious of the fact that having a social life in a college town is overrated, at least at an SEC school. Like it’s really hyped up to go out and have fun every weekend and I realized that that doesn’t matter. But at the same time now I feel I’m not going out and experiencing the life enough ha.
nol 12.02.18	Yeah I take Prozac so mdma might be out of the cards
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	goin outs 100% overrated mate as people realize as they age with or without psychs booze culture is gross
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	"Yeah I take Prozac so mdma might be out of the cards" yeah dude nah you cant be mixing them
hal1ax 12.02.18	well neither pole is going to be ideal; don't want to be totally hermetic / don't want to subjugate school under partying either. maybe what you need is just more moderation in your use? psychs tend to put me in a really introspective place so naturally i don't feel super inclined to go socialize on em but both things can coexist. just have to moderate accordingly maybe
hal1ax 12.02.18	but ya booze culture is gross [2] and ultra unhealthy.
nol 12.02.18	I’ve been doing way better at moderating psych use lately. Last year it was like all I wanted to do which got kind of alarming. Now i use it as a way to reward myself or whatever. Thankfully I’m not a dumbass who enjoys getting black out drunk, and hate booze culture too, but still wish I could break out of the shell ive been in lately.
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	an acid microdose is hella conducive to socializing ime, dont be tempted to go overboard with it though or youll get into spacey territory, >12ug
hal1ax 12.02.18	Also 100% of the people who were committed to the college party culture look and feel like shit post-college
hal1ax 12.02.18	Ya tbh acid tends to make me social. Shrooms are the opposite for me tho.. like can barely talk on them bitches
nol 12.02.18	I tried micro dosing, but it gave me chronic migraines.
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	i havent actually tripped in like 2 years or more, reached the alan watts limit, "when you get the message hang up the phone"
guitarded_chuck 12.02.18	"I tried micro dosing, but it gave me chronic migraines." ahh too bad
nol 12.02.18	“Where you get the message and hang up the phone” Reached that point about 6 months ago, totally feel you
Avagantamos 12.02.18	^ I feel like that's what I've been ultimately working towards with my use of psychedelics but I've never been able to get there, even on really high doses. I don't use them nearly as much anymore, but for a while I was doing 500+ug of acid (or similar doses of other psychs) every week or two, chasing that "ultimate psychedelic experience." highest I ever went without tolerance was 1650ug of acid but I've never really tripped at more than a 6/8. I got myself into a situation kind of like nolerthebowler where my social skills have mostly slipped away and I feel like it has a lot to do with my heavy psych use. there was definitely other stuff going on in my life that likely caused it but was amplified by the psychs
Avagantamos 12.02.18	here's a link to what I mean about tripping at 6/8. although I guess I have been at a 7 from DMT. really want to try ayahuasca for a longer lasting DMT trip https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Geometry
combustion07 12.03.18	I'm a sit alone and think hallucinogen kind of guy. DMT is quite the experience. Felt like I quit breathing the first time it really hit me
hal1ax 12.03.18	have yet to do dmt. ima be real with yall.. shit sounds terrifying to me
nol 12.03.18	I did it once and my body wasn’t a fan, like I just felt like something was wrong. Crazy visuals tho.
combustion07 12.03.18	It reminded me of the time I od'd pretty hard the first time and kind of freaked me out then I did it again immediately after and loved it. It's brief enough even if it goes south though
Relinquished 12.03.18	make sure those knuckles are legit, they’ve been put on blast recently
combustion07 12.03.18	I noticed looking at the website. Apparently a lot of people around here are getting them and dumping out half and replacing it with glycol. I had one of my two break. He thinks first batch was real but his new ones are fake. I'm not having any problems so far but I don't really know how to test the authenticity
TheSpaceMan 12.03.18	DMT is overwhelming but isn't inherently negative, salvia is the same level of overload but pure evil
combustion07 12.03.18	I hated salvia when I did it but admittedly I was way too young to even be attempting it lol
Tchitcherine 12.06.18	Salvia isn't pure evil :D It just feels not really meaningful and more random than psychedelics. For me.
Relinquished 12.06.18	for the pens, try if you can to get clear oil distillates. it sucks when you can't really tell when you're getting scammed but my go-to was the colour and manufacturing of the pens.
combustion07 12.07.18	I've got someone with the clears too so I'm gonna grab them on payday. I don't think either would scam me but I know everything touches many hands