someone: global warming general thread

someone 12.26.21	felt like getting bummed out in these our festive times. innit inescapable, all the demise and depravity?
someone 12.26.21	been the first snow day of the winter yesterday. i remember white christmas a regularity back in my youth
TheAntichrist 12.26.21	yawl mothafuckas litter and eat meat like it's candy what the fuck is wrong with all of yous
someone 12.26.21	meat is obsolete what else
TheAntichrist 12.26.21	saying no to drugs cus meth labs emit carbon trust me i would know first hand
Vercetti 12.26.21	we are all going to die
Trebor. 12.26.21	no point in paying off those student loans when the world is going to end
Vercetti 12.26.21	But seriously: I'm very depressed and don't feel like doing any research. And then I feel worse because I haven't done any research on global warming and feel like i should have. And then I hear about companies using this topic as a marketing tool but not really giving a f***. It's all so bad.
Calc 12.26.21	Don't Look Up
Trebor. 12.26.21	There's a new levi's commercial saying it's better for the environment to buy their jeans because they last longer lol
widowslaugh123 12.26.21	I like striped shirts
BookoftheFallen 12.27.21	according to my crazy uncle global warming isnt real because something al gore said didnt come true.
someone 12.27.21	So buying new jeans made in sweatshops is better for the environment than buying thrifted jeans made in sweatshops?
JohnnyoftheWell 12.27.21	Bomb all beef And maybe the other ones too, later
Hyperion1001 12.27.21	Iâ€™m actually in the process of completely changing career paths so I can do work to help mitigate the effects of climate change. Iâ€™m getting ready to have children and canâ€™t tolerate the idea that they will live in a world worse off than the one I currently live in. Got a degree in English my first time around and it is entirely and wholly useless in almost every aspect. Currently enrolled in a biology program that is specifically environmental restoration and remediation. I want to work on the field doing conservation and helping to protect and preserve out diverse biomes from the tyranny of the Anthropocene. Got a 3.9 my first semester so far and I start working in the field next semester. Tbqh I havenâ€™t been happier or more satisfied with my life trajectory in years.
Ryus 12.27.21	big respect hype
sixdegrees 12.27.21	what if its actually good
LeddSledd 12.27.21	good shit hyperion
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.21	Half the days in December here have broken record temp highs and no days below freezing. Even cray.
widowslaugh123 12.27.21	How can there be global warming if it snowed today? Checkmate leftists
CottonSalad 12.27.21	While doing some of my research last week, I came across a book called Questioning Technology by Andrew Feenberg that has a chapter on the social/political/technological interactions of climate change - itâ€™s from the late 90s, so it isnâ€™t the most up to date as far as current trends in actionability go, but the framework for considering it - and the case study he looks at - felt quite sensitive as a starting point for dipping my toes in to how others (in positions of activism) are possibly thinking about it all. Crazy stuff @Hyp, thatâ€™s so cool - congrats!
Jasdevi087 12.27.21	the pandemic has been real good, cause it's given us a reality check in that people can't even be assed or generally aren't interested in participating in incredibly simple and low stakes mitigation methods in the interest of the health of their loved ones in the here and now, let alone drastic and permanent lifestyle and legislative changes that affect the future of ourselves and our children in response to something they cannot easily observe outside of scientific literature
someone 12.27.21	im too stupid to study actual science, so im sticking to my english major degree, but all the power to you Hyperion yeah, agree with Jas. it's been strange to see people not even giving two shits to help better the situation in the world, because "well it's gonna make me lose some of my luxuries for literally a short period of time"
garas 12.27.21	> we are all going to die [2] We are doomed, a global catastrophe will happen. But there is still some little hope: to dampen the consequences. I honestly hope I can contribute to the overall process with my work as a plant biologist. Conservation and improvement on carbon fixation might help, but everyone should participate in saving our planet. Also that goal sounds amazing, Hyperion! "canâ€™t tolerate the idea that they will live in a world worse off than the one I currently live in." [2]
Pangea 12.27.21	nice hyperion! welcome to the biology field! we're mostly nice people my current work aims to mitigate effects of nitrogen deposition. it has a pretty direct practical use (funded by local government), which is nice since i'm more used to do fundamental work and yeah it's going really bad with the climate, to the point where processes have started that aren't easily reversable. it's not too late to turn the tide, but big change needs to happen really quickly and it's not happening at the moment. really worrying stuff. i really hope we can get people in charge soon that are able to make a meaningful difference
someone 12.27.21	here's a video about the subject from one of my favourite funny-smartypants talking youtuber https://youtu.be/YbYpbXMUsYM
dedex 12.27.21	[2] everything Jas said
Piglet 12.27.21	love how cunts act like global warming is a hard problem to solve. just plop sum more nuclear reactors down and bobs your uncle
dedex 12.27.21	stop beef eat ass
CottonSalad 12.27.21	"everyone should participate in saving our planet." [2]
TheAntichrist 12.27.21	let's just be cavemen and fuck anal cus we'll reduce our carbon footprint by needing less stuff, and we won't be supporting condom factories problem solved end world hunger of eating ass
Bedex 12.27.21	"the virus doesn't help or does it?" it does, the economic contraction caused by the pandemic made 2020 the only year where global footprint was reduced sufficiently to be on track to achieve the +2C Paris agreement targets. the tough thing is that to achieve said objectives, we would not only need to maintain this economic contraction, but also to repeat it every year, i.e. have the economic effect of a covid re-applied every year on top of the previous contractions to sufficiently reduce our footprint. alas, we aren't on track at all - with everything reopening, 2021 saw emissions increase again relative to 2020 (afaik)
someone 12.27.21	yeesh
GhandhiLion 12.27.21	"love how cunts act like global warming is a hard problem to solve. just plop sum more nuclear reactors down and bobs your uncle" Nuclear waste is terrible for the environment and the stations take 5 years to build.
Sharenge 12.27.21	good luck, guys
someone 12.27.21	you leavin?
Hyperion1001 12.27.21	â€œim too stupid to study actual science, so im sticking to my english major degreeâ€ my wording might have been a little too fatalistic. what I should have said was that my English degree was wonderful because of all the new information I learned, but my BACHELORS English degree is essentially worthless on the job market. my best advice for you would be to absolutely make 100% sure that you know what specific job you are working towards, and heavily, heavily consider graduate school, which is where English and theory degrees really have some ability to score a good job.
Colton 12.27.21	I used to do what youre planning on doing hyperion. it was called ecosystem management. it had too much filler for me and a lot of holding hands in the woods singing kumbaya stuff (almost literally) but a lot of it was really cool and felt applicable to real jobs. a lot of field work and trips. the people who had a real passion for it are the ones who did well
ArsMoriendi 12.27.21	We should grow lab meat and make it the standard
WeepingBanana 12.27.21	Not that what youâ€™re doing isnâ€™t commendable Hyp, it is, but I tend to roll my eyes at stories like â€œthese scientists are developing a machine that turns plastic waste into fertilizer!!!â€ Or some shit. Thatâ€™s all fine and good but in general as a society I really really think we need to not look for some private group of genius-saviors to develop a cheat code for top polluters to keep polluting because the deleterious effects are slightly mitigated. Priority number one is to hold the ~100 corporations who are responsible for the vast majority of ongoing environmental destruction accountable in real, material ways. That includes the pentagon first and foremost. Also the discourse around individualizing the global warming question to individual consumer choices and Malthusian solutions is disgusting and borders in eugenics. It is not â€œup to usâ€ to save the planet. That lie benefits no one but the ruling class Again, not trying to take anything away from what youâ€™re doing, but mitigation absolutely needs to go hand in hand with stopping pollution and destruction from the source
WeepingBanana 12.27.21	Also my apologies if Iâ€™m totally mischaracterizing your mission here. Iâ€™m sure what youâ€™re doing is way more complex than all this, Iâ€™m just speaking in very general terms
CottonSalad 12.27.21	^ WeepingBanana, you may be interested in the Feenberg book I mentioned above - he dives into what you're saying, and the discourse around that going back to 30 years ago.
Hyperion1001 12.27.21	I hear what your saying, because the sad reality is that there is very little the general population can actually do to mitigate the effects of large scale industrialized capitalism. but, as far as Iâ€™m concerned, even if thereâ€™s only so much I can do on an individual level, Iâ€™m still going to do it, because itâ€™s the right thing to do. canâ€™t we work on the ground while simultaneously working to resist the power structures that put us in this situation?
dedex 12.27.21	Nuclear is objectively the safest and most sustainable method of generating electricity [âˆž]
Jasdevi087 12.27.21	pros: nuclear energy cons: nuclear energy
dedex 12.27.21	in a nutshell yeah
TheAntichrist 12.27.21	change starts with yourself
twlight 12.27.21	that's why i ride an electric scooter to work everyday
WeepingBanana 12.27.21	Sure hyp, I do â€œmy partâ€ too, but I think thereâ€™s something to be said about the discourse (ugh) and I feel like the personal responsibility angle has been undermining the systematic change angle for the majority of people quite effectively. Saw the trailer for that Donâ€™t Look Up movie and almost puked. One of the most patronizing things Iâ€™ve seen in a while, I almost couldnâ€™t believe it
CottonSalad 12.27.21	atomize me cap'n
GhandhiLion 12.27.21	"Nuclear is objectively the safest and most sustainable method of generating electricity" uh It's objectively not. It's also not climate change friendly, it requires an enormous amount of water to cool the stations. https://www.climateforesight.eu/energy/nuclear-power-feeling-the-heat/
GhandhiLion 12.27.21	solar all the way, it's only going to get cheaper and cheaper.
WeepingBanana 12.28.21	The more I learn the more it seems nuclear is the only way out
someone 12.30.21	is going vegan gonna help you think?
Hyperion1001 12.30.21	there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism so effectively none of our purchasing power will have any real effect. general labor strike is probably the only option for substantial change at this point.
WeepingBanana 12.30.21	No, neither would buying a Tesla
WeepingBanana 12.30.21	You gotta wonder, would the hegemony of the US interstate highway system be as intense if itâ€™s construction decimated rich neighborhoods as well as poor neighborhoods? Who can say!
CottonSalad 12.30.21	Summer of '68, Oui
Egarran 12.30.21	December tornados ftw. Also I just read a sweet article on how all the freshwater is disappearing from the western USA. May you live in interesting times.
DrMaximus 12.30.21	Climate is a far left deep state conspiracy theory to subvert western democracy and traditional values
NOTINTHEFACE 12.30.21	We're all fucked.
TheAntichrist 12.30.21	we're so fucked shit out of luck hardwired to self destruct
Egarran 12.30.21	Blackened did that before it was cool
GhandhiLion 12.30.21	"there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism" soyyyyyy lamest mantra excuse to not give up eating animals
zakalwe 12.30.21	More renewable energy sources Less hole in ozone layer More regulation Less litter More recycling Less plastic More carbon offsets Less countries no longer signed into climate accord More bollocks Less chance of having a reasoned scientific debate
Hyperion1001 12.30.21	â€œlamest mantra excuse to not give up eating animalsâ€œ I didnâ€™t say it was an excuse, just that it was a reality. there are plenty of valid reasons to give up meat consumption. im just saying that your individual choice to do so probably isnâ€™t going to shift the tide for the general population at this point.
TheAntichrist 12.31.21	less meat is a good start given all the resources needed to make pork chops, cheeseburgers, and chicken wings alone but i already didn't eat meat since i'm not a ratord
Egarran 12.31.21	I don't remember what the law is called, but a conversation involving more than 3 Americans will inevitably become about food.
CottonSalad 12.31.21	I love spotted dick
Egarran 12.31.21	I saw Just Look Up, which is a very heavy-handed analogy of the climate disaster, and it's probably too long, but I admit I liked it 7/10
Jasdevi087 12.31.21	i also just watched that and thought it sucked ass, probs a 2/10 reminded me of idiocracy and not in a good way. unfocused, misdirects aim, more interested in being snappy than insightful, protagonists were difficult to rally round. felt like an SNL skit
Egarran 12.31.21	Yeah it's very divisive, which I guess is a good thing. Never seen Idiocracy, maybe that helps.