JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | would have put viking and folk under deathcore but i dont give a fuck |
TheAntichrist
10.23.20 | death and thrash all the way 420/69 recommended by 9 out of 10 doctors |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | shit well who am i to disagree with the consensus from the pro's |
AsleepInTheBack
10.23.20 | thats one fast boi [2]
prog metal / djent / grind / powerviolence / mathcore etc. must be accounted for, dammit! |
NeroCorleone
10.23.20 | You're missing the best two |
AsleepInTheBack
10.23.20 | where be the thrash
edit: oh, wait, that was the speedy boi, shit |
TheAntichrist
10.23.20 | "You're missing the best two"
he already put down death and thrash lol |
combustion07
10.23.20 | Death Metal
Doom
Black Metal
Thrash
Sludge
Grindcore
Crossover
Heavy Metal
Death core
Metalcore
Power Metal |
combustion07
10.23.20 | If we include powerviolence it'd be #2 and mathcore would be pretty high as well |
Josh D.
10.23.20 | black metal last |
wildinferno2010
10.23.20 | Dm is king |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | @Asleep: Idk, powerviolence is definitely rooted in hardcore and punk, not really a metal genre. I generally consider it hardcore punk pushed to grind extremes in speed and brutality, but next to no metal stylistic choices. And even when we're talking hardcore that's not so punk, it's still it's own separate thing. |
AsleepInTheBack
10.23.20 | yeah tbf i agree with you in terms of influences/history/genre-tropes. i just tend to think of heavy/extreme shit as falling within the broad term 'Metal' (as it tends to be used) more so than 'Punk' (as it tends to be used). |
Shuyin
10.23.20 | plebs, real men listen to Post Metal and Sludge |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Post metal honestly and completely fucking sucks I however am ragin that I forgot to add prog, which would be just right below fucking power metal cause it’s overblown boring shit |
TheAntichrist
10.23.20 | glad they finally got when the kite string pops on youtube again. took long enough |
Rolling Girl
10.23.20 | 12 is one and I want an apology. |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | I’m ready to fight tooth and nail for my choices |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | @Asleep: Dude, you'd be surprised how fuckin brutal hardcore punk, post-hardcore, noise rock, post-punk, crust, deathrock and even regular goth can get, all what I would consider punk genres. It doesn't always hit the same as metal but a lot of it is as heavy as anything. I think of punk as perfectly being capable of reaching heights of intensity like metal is perfectly capable of being soft/folky. |
NeroCorleone
10.23.20 | "he already put down death and thrash lol"
I'm talking about grind and sludge |
ShadowRemains
10.23.20 | dm
fast boi (thrash)
bm
doom/sludge
even faster boi (grind)
heavy metal/NWOBHM
crossover
power metal
industrial metal
metalcore
deathcore
glam metal |
Masochist
10.23.20 | What about Melo Death? Is that included in DM? |
ShadowRemains
10.23.20 | yes, all sub genres of dm that are dominantly dm are included like melodeath, blackened death, and death/doom (for me anyways) |
TheAntichrist
10.23.20 | and that's why dm is the tits |
Aberf
10.23.20 | metalcore more like metalchoke |
el_newg
10.23.20 | awful ranking sry |
Ryus
10.23.20 | 1. dm
2. bm
3. metalcore
then power metal, glam, and dad metal are all tied for last
dont care about the rest |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Yeah, including goddamn Parkway Drive in the metalcore slot was weak. Listen to Rorschach or Gaza or something. |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | sludge will always be 1. |
WalrusTusk
10.23.20 | Prog Metal is ranked even above 1, agree. |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | prog is trash agreed. |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | A lot of prog is cheesy af but some of it is S tier. maudlin of the Well?? FUCK |
WalrusTusk
10.23.20 | ^Listen to the man John. |
Emim
10.23.20 | awful ranking sry [2] |
Shuyin
10.23.20 | Deserving of sputnik jail |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | i could count the number of good metalcore bands on one hand. |
SteakByrnes
10.23.20 | Bro why did you choose that arena dad metal album to represent metalcore lol |
Emim
10.23.20 | Lol does your hand have 40 fingers you freak |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | ya definitely shoulda been Jane Doe or Calculating Infinity for the metalcore spot |
DavidYowi
10.23.20 | Wtf is alt metal anyway. It’s the most annoying genre to search for b/c you either get the good early 90s alt metal like Faith No More or Helmet or you get fuckin Godsmack |
Veks
10.23.20 | Yeah i don't need to listen some guys in make up and dressed like clowns while talking about how religion is bad because a priest touched their peepee. Find it funny how in trying to separate and be non conformist, they all look and sound the same. |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | black metal is so little peepee |
garas
10.23.20 | Correct first two, the rest doesn't really matter.
(But come on, saying no to some sweet doom is an impossible thing.) |
budgie
10.23.20 | anyone who calls black sabbath dad metal should go fuck themselves |
Ryus
10.23.20 | black sabbath are pretty good definitely the best dad metal band |
Ryus
10.23.20 | hard rock/dad metal is the worst genre of music to ever exist |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Bottom three are prog, thrash, and djent in that order. |
Egarran
10.23.20 | >anyone who calls black sabbath dad metal should go fuck themselves
ok boomer |
Veks
10.23.20 | As a dad, everything i listen to is dad metal I guess. |
Veks
10.23.20 | Is djent really a genre? I thought it was a style of tuning. |
porcupinetheater
10.23.20 | Some weak ass bm takes in here.
That shit ain't apply to Weakling |
bloodshy
10.23.20 | i don't see how this ranking could fully please anyone. it's a little all over the place. deathcore is one of my faves, but seeing it rank that high with your others with metalcore down near the bottom... that just looks weird |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | Best genres are metalcore, deathcore, prog metal, post hardcore. The rest can eat my ass |
Veks
10.23.20 | Good stuff bigweinerdon.
But I would add hardcore. |
garas
10.23.20 | > Best genres are metalcore, deathcore, prog metal, post hardcore
I bet this comment won't age really well. |
garas
10.23.20 | We'll end up loving dad metal after some time, plus owning every Europe record on vinyl. Just accept it. |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | Yeah hardcore in there for sure |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | "I bet this comment won't age really well". It didn't even come out well. lol Post-hardcore isn't even metal, and when people mention prog it could be really good or really bad. And people should stop calling hardcore metal, too. |
Veks
10.23.20 | Bah. Don't be a purist Million.
Is converge metalcore or hardcore? |
Veks
10.23.20 | Lots of bands share genres and tags so. Yeah. |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | Lol hardcore is heavier than glam and dad metal |
Ryus
10.23.20 | just bc its heavier doesnt mean its metal |
bloodshy
10.23.20 | i will just go ahead and agreed with bigweinerdong, except prog metal is now prog metalcore |
Sinternet
10.23.20 | hardcore
metal
pick one |
Sinternet
10.23.20 | Bottom three are prog, thrash, and djent in that order.
agreed x10000000 |
Cygnatti
10.23.20 | Prog metal is so bad it's not even on the list, God bless |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | "is converge metalcore or hardcore"
converge is life. |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Converge is definitely metalcore. Too much metal influence to ever be straight up hardcore. Great ass band though. Their guitarist and a large part of the internet would term that style of metalcore "metallic hardcore" though, as it focuses more on the 90s hardcore aspects versus something completely different sounding, metal focused, and modern (and worse) like As I Lay Dying.
Yeah, things being heavy doesn't turn them into metal. Lots of brutal af noise, rap, punk, electronic, experimental, jazz etc. |
Cygnatti
10.23.20 | Dm = bm
Sludge and doom are up there
Drone metal is kool too
The others are gay and bad but they have some jamz. Hard to choose the worst tho. |
Veks
10.23.20 | So they are both. My point exactly. |
Cygnatti
10.23.20 | Brutal dm is so good, idk why ppl hate it! |
bloodshy
10.23.20 | i feel like anyone who doesn't like prog hasn't heard prog+your favorite genre. just add prog in front of what you like, search it. prog thrash i just learned was a thing, prog black metal i'm sure, prog anything
don't give up on prog, it hasn't given up on you |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | agree ^ |
porcupinetheater
10.23.20 | Yeah, prog in spirit shouldn't even be a genre. Like, it is, but it's claimed by a bunch of dweebs sweeping in 12/8 instead of doing weird shit like the name ought to imply |
Veks
10.23.20 | I love prog but understand why people would hate it. |
CygnusX1
10.23.20 | Real tier: Black, death, thrash, doom, prog, dad
Trash tier: deathcore, metalcore, glam
Badass in middle school tier: power, alt, grind
Not a genre tier: djent
|
porcupinetheater
10.23.20 | Damn I wish I was cool enough to jam grind in middle school |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Yeah, I didn't get into grind til I was like 17 and now I'm 25 and I can't get enough lmao.
"So they are both. My point exactly." It's hard to just define them outright. On top of straight up metalcore/metallic hardcore sounds hey have grind songs, post-metal songs, post-hardcore songs, sludge songs, punk songs, etc. Metalcore/metallic hardcore implies the mix of styles therein. Like Gaza and Botch are insanely great metallic hardcore bands too, but far from straight up hardcore like Trapped Under Ice. There's hardcore in the sound but they aren't just hardcore bands. |
bigweinerdon
10.23.20 | Hilarious how all this is subjective but we talk like we know the truth |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | I feel like genres/subgenres are pretty cut and dry a lot of the time, not that it actually MATTERS tbf |
SteakByrnes
10.23.20 | I just jam tunes |
CygnusX1
10.23.20 | The only objective truth in metal is that there are infinite subgenres and the distinction between them is very minor but super important and must be debated regularly
|
Egarran
10.23.20 | Tool is prog metal right?
he asked innocently |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Thanks for the good reading bro’s I have been enjoying.
But some of you need to put some fuckin respec on BM’s name |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Add prog to #13 |
Veks
10.23.20 | I find it odd someone can like post metal and hate prog. Don't ask me why. |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Both of them suck to fucking high heavens |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Are Dream Theater and Isis even comparable? |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | "Both of them suck to fucking high heavens"
But you like deathcore and glam metal, like a lot. |
porcupinetheater
10.23.20 | How can a person claim to like metal and not have a place in their heart for Neurosis? |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | I dunno guys what do you want me to say, if I didn’t have my girlfriend I’d clearly be an angry incel and it reflects in my music tastes |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Updated |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | You can be an angry incel and fluke your way into companionship, make no mistake. lmao jk |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Deafheaven ain't post-metal tho |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Deafheaven as post-metal?? MANNNN |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Prog has rush and btbam, which makes it the worst metal subgenre by default |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | What is it then |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Blackgaze |
Senetrix666
10.23.20 | post/sludge is easily the best. Cult of Luna, Isis, and Neurosis alone warrant that. |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | HELL I DONT KNOW
I just wanted to see how Sputnik rated their metal |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | Old Man Gloom, Sumac, and early Intronaut are great mentions as well. |
Ryus
10.23.20 | i always think im gonna like post/sludge/doomy stuff but ive never rly loved anything like that |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Black Metal has priority in my heart, I can listen to pretty garbage black metal and still find a lot of qualities I love |
Pikazilla
10.23.20 | Unless it's liturgy |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | You should try some post-black metal like Altar of Plagues if you haven't. |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.23.20 | Funny you should say that Million, the only post-black outside of Deafheaven I’ve heard is Altar of Plagues and it was pretty sweet |
MillionDead
10.23.20 | See?? They really aren't even the same thing lol. |
Veks
10.23.20 | What about post blackcore? |
Brabiz
10.23.20 | I’m in two black metal bands and even I think the genre is trash. So this list is probably wrong |
TheAntichrist
10.23.20 | incorrect |
Shuyin
10.23.20 | ^ better get your umbrellas ready cuz the shitstorm is inevitable |
ChoccyPhilly
10.23.20 | Black metal is 1 but post metal is trash? Duuude post black is awesome wtf |
evilford
10.24.20 | Dm is king
Sludge (plus post metal i guess?)
Thrash
Doom
Bm
Dad
Prog (although tool legit has 2 5's)
Idc about the rest |
evilford
10.24.20 | also regardless of how u categorize meshuggah, they are the best band ever made objectively agreed |
Avagantamos
10.24.20 | death metal black metal and post metal are good and thrash metal is bad |
Avagantamos
10.24.20 | also grind is cool |
LeddSledd
10.24.20 | what even is this list, you forgot the thirty-seven other subgenres. disliked and unsubscribed from JeremiahBullfrog
also post metal is good and deathcore is usually bad |
Ryus
10.24.20 | grind [2] |
Cygnatti
10.24.20 | grind is cool, i forget about it a lot tho. post-metal kinda sux tho
meshuggah is actually good which is kinda wild lmao the meme is real |
ArsMoriendi
10.24.20 | Your choices to represent alt. metal and industrial metal make me sad |
Itwasthatwas
10.24.20 | 1) dm
2) post/sludge
3) bm
4) the handful of good core bands
5) doom
6) thrash
7) who cares |
Egarran
10.24.20 | Atmonaturepostblack ftw |
garas
10.24.20 | grind [3]
I enjoy grind more than DM, ngl.
Maybe my ranking order would look like this:
BM, grind, thrash, dad, doom, DM... and the rest I can't care about. |
EphemeralEternity
10.24.20 | from the man that brought you such esteemed lists as Transformers: Live action films ranked! Dude where's my buttplug
|
SteakByrnes
10.24.20 | lmao |
JohnnyoftheWell
10.24.20 | this is the worst list i have ever seen |
Egarran
10.24.20 | You a power metal guy? It kinda makes sense actually. |
MillionDead
10.24.20 | Yeah listen to more stuff! Seriously, you need to hear some good metalcore. Listen to I Don't Care Where I Go When I Die by Gaza. Shit is evil and dark and amazing. |
LeddSledd
10.24.20 | ^ i second this
also check The Sanity Universal by Seizures, similarly dark and powerful metalcore. shit's great |
TheAntichrist
10.24.20 | power metal is what glam metal wanted to be not that either one is amazing |
rellik009
10.26.20 | Is this a metalarchives x Sputnik thread or something? Yikes. |
Egarran
10.26.20 | you a power metal guy too? |
rellik009
10.26.20 | naw. just saying what i think of this """"intellectual debate"""" |
Veks
10.26.20 | Listen to Botch and then decide if metalcore sucks. |
rellik009
10.26.20 | have fun boiz |
farmerobama
10.26.20 | Post and Prog Metal at the end and Deathcore at 3. Sigh. |
Egarran
10.26.20 | day ruined |
Dedes
10.26.20 | Listen to Twilight Force weakling
Power metal has the potential to slap nuts and you are afraid of what it can do to your estrogen ridden body |
Egarran
10.26.20 | Wimps and posers, leave the hall! |
Scheumke
10.26.20 | - Prog (how can the most versatile and diverse of the subgenres be boring, it literally goes with anything. If you only see Dream Theater and BTBAM as progmetal I can get it, but it has soooo much more)
- Post
- Black (and Blackgaze)
- Death
- Power
- Metalcore/Deathcore
- Thrash
|
CocaineDick
10.26.20 | lol why does everyone hate power metal on this fucking site. god forbid there is melody and catchy riffs every now and again. |
Ryus
10.26.20 | CocaineDick |
CocaineDick
10.26.20 | I mean I don’t love the shit but it’s not terrible. |
Scheumke
10.27.20 | I've found the sput community to be pretty lactose intolerant and power is innately cheesy. |
MillionDead
10.27.20 | Yeah power metal is cheesy as fuck. I want my metal about death and trauma and suffering and human ills and existential dread, and I think it's best when it sounds dark/depressive and abrasive. Power metal is so often major key and they sing about fantasy shit, definitely a hard sell for an edgelord like me. All that said, I still have X Japan's Art of Life 5'd cause it's actually amazing. I've heard some great records in the style but overall, power metal sucks. |
Egarran
10.27.20 | I prefer lyrics with arrogant wizards who don't let subhumans get in their way of metaphysical euphoria. |
alamo
10.27.20 | melodic death metal > every other genre |
JeremiahBullfrog
10.27.20 | its power metals vocals and lyrics more than anything tbh
alamo BM says hi |
EphemeralEternity
10.27.20 | Power metal probably doesn't deserve to get sharted on as much as it does but there just isn't really a place for it in my rotation..... if I want something uplifting I'll put on some pop/hip hop/electronic... if I want something epic I'll put on some nordic folk or prog or melodeath or soundtrack or ambient...if I want riffs I'll put on... other metal. Every now and then I'll listen to a few Bling guardian tracks and quite enjoy it but it gets old quickly |
MillionDead
10.27.20 | Yeah, the vocals in power metal generally SUCK. I couldn't get into cheesy, soaring, high pitched metal vocals like that for a while expressly because of power metal leaving a poor impression, but shit like King Diamond and Confessor actually kills. |
porcupinetheater
10.27.20 | “ power metal is what glam metal wanted to be not that either one is amazing”
You mean music that gets groupies and bottomless coke money? Pretty sure they got what they were looking for better’n power metal |
LeddSledd
10.28.20 | Yeah I'm basically allergic to the sheer cheese most power metal brings to the table. PM fans always seemed to be apart of that same crowd that listens to anime and video game OSTs. |
MillionDead
10.28.20 | Bro there are so many anime and videogame OSTs that are SEVERELY less cheesy than PM. Like Silent Hill or Condemned: Criminal Origins, hell even Final Fantasy and that does get kinda cheese sometimes. And for anime you got shit like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, FLCL, Ghost in the Shell! All actually awesome music. |
TheAntichrist
10.28.20 | how the fuck is glam metal better than dad metal? |
CocaineDick
10.28.20 | The only accurate one here is post metal, which is probably the most useless metal subgenre |
MillionDead
10.28.20 | How? What else do you call Isis and Neurosis? Both seminal bands |
Scheumke
10.28.20 | + Cult of Luna, The Ocean (later work is more prog but still), Pelican. There are so many quality post metal bands. Also it's often a harder version of post-rock which hosts another huge can of quality bands (GY!BE, Mono etc) |
Veks
10.28.20 | Yeah i totally get the power metal hate for the vocals. It's the same reason i can't get into Protest the Hero. Hate the singer. |
TrantaLocked
10.28.20 | Black metal and riffs in the same sentence. |
Egarran
10.28.20 | oh dear |
budgie
10.28.20 | bad list |
EphemeralEternity
10.29.20 | I mean post metal is sort of just progressive sludge with some ambience
and probably the best genre when you're in the right mood
along w atmospheric bm |
DamnVanne
10.29.20 | This list is unemployed and plays Xbox360 in the middle of the day |
bigguytoo9
11.10.20 | LOL, GLAM is way too high up. |
ReturnToRock
11.26.20 | Classic hard rock (e.g. AC/DC, Cream, Bad Co.)
Glam rock
Classic heavy (e.g. Sabbath, Maiden, old school Priest)
Melodic thrash (e.g. Metallica, 80s Anthrax)
Nu-metal
Melodic heavy
Thrash/groove (e.g. Sepultura, Pantera)
Modern hard rock / radio rock
Alt-metal
Classic death/thrash (e.g. Death, Possessed)
Desert/stoner rock
Melodic metalcore (e.g. Trivium, God Forbid, All That Remains)
Goth metal
Euro power metal
Industrial metal
Melodeath
Melodic doom (e.g. Katatonia)
Prog metal
Post-metal
Sludge
Funeral doom
Brutal death
Grindcore
Black metal
Last 4 being interchangeable as the only ones I actively will not listen to.
|
Ryus
11.26.20 | no disrespect to grandpa but that might be the worst ranking possible |
Egarran
11.26.20 | Wow you weren't kidding |
Evreaia
11.26.20 | Man I thought thgis list was legit when I saw 1 and 2, but than you fucked up with 14. |
MillionDead
11.26.20 | Yeah. This list still sucks and Return to Rock, your list is so bad but it would be a lot better if you just inverted it. |
ReturnToRock
11.26.20 | I'm sorry, that's my ranking. Me and black metal don't get on at all. The more trve the less I like it. As for death metal I tried liking it as a younger man but gave up years ago after managing to like a grand total of like 3 bands from the genre. |
Motiv3
11.26.20 | Can't see how post-metal is last when you have bands like Neurosis, Cult of Luna, ISIS, The Ocean, Rosetta etc. |
Nerdurosis
11.26.20 | My top is probably heavy/traditional metal, and epic metal. It all depends on my mood, really, but I generally hate funeral doom and that post-metal shit. Complete horseshit if you ask me. I've grown into black metal over the years, but it's a really mood dependent genre for me. |
TheAntichrist
11.26.20 | i had a friend whose reason for not liking dm was because of the "cookie monster" vocals.
he dead now |
Nerdurosis
11.26.20 | Prog is ok I guess, the best bands are the ones that don't blow it out proportion and wank off to the instruments, like Fates Warning for an example. I've grown out of power metal but it's still ok. I'd rather listen to that than prog though. |
ReturnToRock
11.26.20 | Oh shit, I forgot prog. It would be pretty low on my list. I don't have much patience for long songs in general. Probably above The Unlistenables, but below everything else. Post would probably go on there too.
Actually...list edited. |
TheAntichrist
11.26.20 | my prog % would be much lower had sputnik not labelled albums with songs longer than 4 minutes as prog lol |
TheAntichrist
11.26.20 | that being said, good prog is really fucking good |
ReturnToRock
11.26.20 | I sort of like old-timey prog. Modern prog/prog-metal...nah. |
LeddSledd
11.26.20 | there's a lot more diversity in the modern progressive genre than people give credit for. it ain't all just 20 minutes of wanky guitar and keyboard solos, there is a lot of innovation and variety though it's hard to spot at first |
ReturnToRock
11.26.20 | @Ledd I can dig it with bands like Pain of Salvation or just Steve Wilson's body of work in general. But every other band labelled 'prog metal' seems to be a Dream Theater/Symphony X clone. Those I have no patience for. |
TheAntichrist
11.26.20 | it wouldn't be called progressive if it didn't progress eh? |
Dedes
11.27.20 | Progressive metal is more of a style than an actual statement. Imo most things that are sincerely progressive tend to be labeled under avant-garde metal. |
aydross121
11.27.20 | I won't stand for the power metal hate on this site. Yeah it's dumb and cheesy but so are you how bout dat |
Casavir
11.27.20 | prog, thrash and trad/power are in the top three. |
NeroCorleone
11.27.20 | more like bottom three. top three are grind, sludge and dm |
JeremiahBullfrog
11.27.20 | it doesn't register in my mind why anyone's top genre wouldn't be Black Metal sorry |
LeddSledd
11.27.20 | maybe the complete lack of listenable vocals or production might be a factor |
MillionDead
11.27.20 | I mean black metal has largely moved past the shitty production thing. Get wit the times, GRAMPS. |
TheAntichrist
11.27.20 | "it doesn't register in my mind why anyone's top genre wouldn't be Black Metal sorry"
because death metal exists |
LeddSledd
11.27.20 | yeah I haven't explored black metal very thoroughly - or at all - but I'm not too crazy about it from what I've heard. Might make a rec request list for that at some point |
rellik009
11.27.20 | garas made a list about good obscure black metal, and there's a couple well-produced schtuff like Dodheimsgard and Door 216
of course there's also Deathspell Omega. Check out Regarde Les Hommes Tomber |
JeremiahBullfrog
11.27.20 | Black Metal Vocals are the best part |
Egarran
11.27.20 | Yeah DSO is like entry level BM |
JeremiahBullfrog
11.27.20 | Who |
JeremiahBullfrog
11.27.20 | Oh death spell omega |
