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| POST PUNK OFF, A COMPETITION ROUND 5
RULES: A sister-competition to the "Con VS Unique Emo Crown". Two competitors rec 30 albums, 1 at a time, to 3 judges. A new round of recs will be presented once all three judges have finished rating/listening to both albums. This will continue until a total of 30 albums will be presented, 15 from each competitor. Winner will be determined by the highest AVG but tie breaker will be whoever had the best rec and each judge gets 1 vote for that.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NEW RULE: Competitors who fail to submit their recs within 1 day after each list's creation will have .5 deducted from their score for EACH day late ____JUDGES: Conmaniac, DeadlyNightShade, neekafat_____ COMPETITORS: UniqueUniverse, Tyler.,teamster_______ EMO COMPETITION: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?mode=1&listid=176039#comments | 1 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
UniqueUniverse's rec
CURRENT COMPETITION SCORE: 51.9
Con: You competitors never learn do you? I mean I’ve tried to help you out the best I can by saying exactly what I like and didn’t like about each album, but sometimes I feel as though you aren’t even listening (are you even reading this now??). This is post punk drone, repetitive and gloomy while a baritone voiced man angstily and poorly sings about his strifes in a poetically beautiful way. The music itself isn’t bad, as there are at least 3 or 4 songs I enjoyed enough to look past the fact that they were repetitive drivel, but overall this album bored me. Can you already see how conflicted this album is making me? Production is probably the best thing about this record though, and the instrumentation is atmospheric yet poignant when needed. It’s just that I sometimes can’t get over the singer’s voice (and yes I’ve read his backstory its very sad). Last song is perfect though and after some re-listens, | 2 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
I did start to see it grow on me but I would have to give this album a lot of time and attention which is something I don’t have for this competition. 3.5/5 | 3 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
Neeka: This album probably has one of the thickest and deepest atmospheres I’ve ever heard before, and yet I can’t help but wish that I liked it more. It seems to rely on its mood more than anything, and while there’s obvious talent and clever musicianship here, it feels like some possible melody and variety was sacrificed for the sake of keeping that unified dense sound, a choice I’m not sure that I agree with. The singer sounds like Lou Reed with his best impersonation of an English accent, almost to a comical point on songs like “She’s Lost Control.” Overall, this was a very solid album, one that I can see myself coming back to if only for its unique nature, though I do wish it pushed itself a little bit farther than it did. I feel bad giving Unique another one of these, but to me this is a definite 3.7/5. | 4 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
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Tracking Ratings: Disorder: 7.5, Day of Our Lords: 7.5 , Candidate: 7, Insight: 8, New Dawn Fades: 8, She’s Lost Control: 7.5, Shadowplay: 8, Wilderness: 7.5, Interzone: 7.5, I Remember Nothing: 8 (AVG: 7.65) | 5 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
Deadly: Entering your first listen of Unknown Pleasures it’s easy to be deceived into thinking you’re walking into an upbeat album. The opening track “Disorder” begins with a thumping bass beat that nearly impossible to avoid tapping your foot to, paired with a repetitive albeit energetic drum beat that carries the track in a rather uplifting manner. However, upon further inspection the lyrical content boasts a feeling of dissociation and wanting to belong. This deception is rather intentional as the album mimics a feeling of detachment as the album carries you into a deep hole of sorrow and hopelessness. The shift in song tempos only becomes more depressing as the album continues which is effective in encapsulating the range of emotions showcased throughout the album. The album rather thoughtfully pulls you back into a state of deceit one last time when “Interzone” kicks in with another pulsing bass beat paired with some tasty guitar licks and a drum beat reminiscent | 6 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
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of the opening track, though this is short lived. The album closes with one of the most gloomy and discordant closers I’ve ever heard. The spacey atmosphere, glass shattering sound effects, and crooning vocal delivery are effective in wrapping the album up to a chilling close. 4.2/5 | 7 | | Talking Heads Fear of Music
Tyler.'s rec
CURRENT COMPETITION SCORE: 53.3
Con: Talking Heads impressed me with this one. Having heard Remain In Light, I was left confused and a bit disgruntled, yet I know of their CON-potential with classics like Psycho Killer. I was pretty pleased to find out that this album was a straightforward, funky, eclectic listen, and it cleansed the bitter taste that Joy Division left in my mouth. First two songs are insanely fun and intoxicating, and while the middle/end started to slow down a bit for me, ‘Heaven’ and ‘Drugs’ are also easy highlights. Was a fun listen, not too gloomy post punk and just enough New Wave, but I need to give this one a bit more time because it’s right now at the “huh I should maybe jam this again” instead of a “I REALLY wanna jam that again” so I’ll throw it a 3.7/5. | 8 | | Talking Heads Fear of Music
Neeka: Fear of Music is certainly an interesting listen. Shifting between batshit insane (“I, Zimbra” and “Animals”) and been-there-done-that (“Paper” and “Electric Guitar”), even its weaker tracks are very enjoyable. That majority of the tracks here are built on the concept of taking good ideas and stretching them as far out as you can, and even when this does work, that solid root foundation is still there. Things do tend to get a tad tiresome here and there, and the fact that the ridiculously-good opener is the best song on the album is more than a bit disappointing, but overall this was a fun listen, and something that I could definitely see growing on me in the future. 3.8/5
Track Ratings: I, Zimbra: 8.5 +, Mind: 7.5 -, Paper: 7 +, Cities: 8 +, Life During Wartime: 7.5 +, Memories Can’t Wait: 8 -, Air: 7.5 -, Heaven: 8.5 -, Animals: 8 +, Electric Guitar: 7.5 +, Drugs: 8 - | 9 | | Talking Heads Fear of Music
Deadly: From the beginning of Fear of Music the listener is bombarded with a barrage of funk and spastic instrumentals that will set the tone for a rather unpredictable album. The peculiarity of the twangy vocals, funky bass beats, and experimental guitar riffs gauge the listener for an entertaining listen. Although there is plenty to love here I could agree with Neeka that the highs of the album are never really met consistently. 3.7/5 | 10 | | Arctic Flowers Weaver
teamster's rec
CURRENT COMPETITION SCORE: 48.2
Con: Female fronted post punk? About damn time, and man are these vocals amazing, slightly emo/pop punk in nature and incredibly impassioned while still maintaining that gothic tinge. The instrumentals to back it up are also incredible, this is basically everything Stellarscope was trying to be with their opener (punk-post-punk) and I adore it. It’s energetic, dark, and is unique enough to conjure up some highlights. The opener was an easy favorite for me but the closer ‘Impasse’ features some climactic duel vocals which perfectly caps off this album. If I had one criticism it’s that this album sounds like a band on the edge of an imaginary cliff, and they are too scared to jump off to reach that full-throttle, high energy potential. You can hear glimpses of it throughout, but they never make that leap. Frustrating, sure, but still very enjoyable. 4/5 | 11 | | Arctic Flowers Weaver
Neeka: Featuring some killer riffs and solid female vocals (about time, I was getting a bit sick of the post-punk sausage fest), Weaver is an extremely easy listen. From it’s almost-too-short runtime to its quick and to the point tracks, it’s all a breeze, but maybe that’s for the best -- it almost seems to start running low on ideas by the end of it all. So maybe it does get a little bit tasteless by the end of it, but that doesn’t change the fact that we have an incredibly clean-sounding and formidable young punk band here willing to give something different a go; hopefully in the future they’ll just push themselves a bit further. 3.6/5
Track Ratings: Magdalene: 8 -, Tell My Horse: 7 -, Ex Oblivione: 7 +, Anamnesis: 7.5 +, Cold Air Dead Hand: ?, Byzantine: 8 -, Weaver: 7.5 +, Dirges Dwell: 7 +, Impasse: 7.5 - | 12 | | Arctic Flowers Weaver
Deadly: On this rec, teamster stepped outside the box of his competitors but with a risk well worth taking. Weaver stays true to its punk roots with aggressive riffs, hard-hitting bass lines, pummeling drums and angst-ridden vocals that range from apathetic to ballsy. Although typical for the genre, these vocal performances are brought a unique sound being that this is a female fronted band. Overall, I would say these vocals are the standout element that set the Arctic Flowers away from their contemporaries. From the opening riffs in “Magdelene”, the breakneck bassline that opens “Tell My Horse”, to the hostile vocals and clobbering drums beats in “Anamnesis”, and the atmospheric “Cold Air Dead Hands” it’s hard to find many flaws here. The only real flaw would be the band seem to be just shy of mastering their craft.
Nonetheless, this was a refreshing album that was wildly amusing and never truly loses its potency. 4.3/5 | |
ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | BACK IN CONTROL BITCHES | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | I've noticed that none of you rated Unknown Pleasure by Joy Division. If that ain't true, put in Closer, if that won't fly either, put in Have a Nice Life - The Unnatural World. | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | You want closer for your rec then this round Unique? Definitely qualifies in my eyes | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | or you saying you want unknown pleasure? | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Then on with it | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | UP I mean | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | alrighty there's your entry | neekafat
08.10.17 | Lol good thing I already listened to Joy Division when I accidentally thought that was your first rec in Round 1
I'll relisten of course tho | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | eh no harm done makes the process easier for you this round. | neekafat
08.10.17 | Exactly haha | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | What are the rules if somebody recs a band that was submitted before? | neekafat
08.10.17 | We come to your house and beat you
Actually idk that's a good question | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | tacos N stuff takes off -0.1 from an overall rating for that rec in his competition. | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | SO I've schemed up an idea here, for nice last twist. Instead of going back to those recs I missed before I will instead hold on rating them and choose at the end of the competition whether or not to rate them depending upon scores at the end of the competition. (i.e. will rate in the event of a tiebreaker or if I just want to shake things up cause competition was close) | Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.10.17 | Too many rules, needs more anarchy | neekafat
08.10.17 | Huh could be fun
And UU, maybe there just won't be a penalty and reccing the same band will have to be a risk you're willing to take? | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | like that idea neeka as far as the same band rec thing goes, we'll go with that and leave it at the discretion of each judge | neekafat
08.10.17 | Aight coo :) | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | nice i like that deadly. keeps it moving too | Tyler.
08.10.17 | Uhhh | Tyler.
08.10.17 | Talking heads - fear of music | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | added! | neekafat
08.10.17 | Looks like we'll have a good round ahead of us | teamster
08.11.17 | Nothing - Tired Of Tomorrow
I hope I redeem myself a little ... sorry about the last rec brothers , thought you would dig it. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | How's that Post-Punk? | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | I mean, okay New Wave and all that shit rec'd in the past aside at least it was a derivative of Post-Punk, Nothing is a straight-out Shoegaze-Rock band nowhere close to Post-Punk. | Conmaniac
08.11.17 | i have that rated already teamster. | teamster
08.11.17 | There's post punk in it brother - if u can't hear it , stop stream lining | Tyler.
08.11.17 | No not really lol | teamster
08.11.17 | Fak - my bad Com ...I digress ... | teamster
08.11.17 | Yes really
| Papa Universe
08.11.17 | There's as much Post-Punk in it as sanity in Burzum. Maybe there is an idea of it, but it is far from being even a secondary thing. | Tyler.
08.11.17 | Yeah | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | I mean, I messed up like this in Emo Crown regularly, but now you're my domain, honeybunny. | teamster
08.11.17 | Sylvaine - Wistful
Hopefully none of u 3 have rated this. Does this one qualify UU? | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Honestly, no. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Okay, let's from now on agree that the submitted artist should at least have a Post-Punk tag. | teamster
08.11.17 | Well who the hell listens to you anyways ;) | teamster
08.11.17 | Actually Nothing and Sylvaine have post punk tags ...on their bandcamp pages | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Good question, but I've go a better one. Who listen to the Ambient/Folk-infused/Atmospheric-Post-Blackgaze and thinks "This is some good Post-Punk"? | teamster
08.11.17 | The same people that tag it post punk on their bandcamp pages and wiki pages , tough guy | teamster
08.11.17 | So it must be you | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Sylvaine doesn't. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | And Nothing also has Psychedelic tagged, which, granted, is much more present than Post-Punk, but is nevertheless maybe an inspiration for some tracks. It's not Post-Punk, it's Shoegaze.
You're like one of those people, who answer a 'Knock knock' joke with "Nobody's home". | teamster
08.11.17 | Indeed they do , second tag as a matter of fact ...on the wiki ..dam wiki trolls ... | teamster
08.11.17 | Wtf does that even mean ? I'm not here to argue ..If you want to be genre Nazi , have at it. That's the great thing about music dude , different interpretations for different people. As matter of fact , u sound like a pompous ass. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Their Wikipedia page doesn't even say anything about the Psych part, unless you're referring to something else or just mocking me at this point. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | You must have missed the "Post-Punk-off" sign above... | teamster
08.11.17 | I am trying to present stuff with some different ingredients. I can rec post punk music like the soundtrack for the movie Hardware (remember that movie ? Heh..) all day ...too monotonous. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Bloody hell, I skipped that film. Thought it might have been a mistake.
Okay, point taken, you want to rec something that fits within the Post-Punk category, but also tries to incorporate various other styles. That's fine, more power to you. But neither Nothing an for that matter definitely not Sylvaine fit even within that criteria. | teamster
08.11.17 | Ok brother , I want to keep within the guidelines ...lemme check my discog tomorrow after work , gotta hit the rack , g'night. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Okay, I think if I'll continue this bacchanalia my head'll explode. We're obviously both stubborn in our views, let's just agree with that. I secede and let you submit whatever you choose to submit, even if it's a folkloristic/Atmo/Shoegaze and we'll just carry on with our lives. Aye? It'll then be only up to judges to decide, whether it fits the theme of the tourney or not. Although knowing their knowledge of the genre, they might take Cult of Luna as Post-Punk. | Conmaniac
08.11.17 | uhhhhhhhhhhhhh | neekafat
08.11.17 | ...we all okay here guys? | Tyler.
08.11.17 | Lol
| Conmaniac
08.11.17 | i just wanna know what teamster's rec is | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | I think, unless unless decides to change it, be it through personal decision or through my thorough and persistent nagging, it's still Sylvaine's Wistful | ZombieToyDuck
08.11.17 | so no rec from teamster yet?...confused | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Well he didn't recall Sylvaine - Wistful, so I guess that's what he goes with. Although I can't wrap my head around just what can he perceive as Post-Punk in that album, but I don't want to have to deal with that anymore. | ZombieToyDuck
08.11.17 | we agreed only sputnik post punk tags so that doesn't qualify by that standard therefore he needs a new rec | neekafat
08.11.17 | Shame, that album looks super interesting | ZombieToyDuck
08.11.17 | well oh well I'm not gunna play guessing games and thats a definitive way to avoid the genre arguments | neekafat
08.11.17 | Agreed | Conmaniac
08.11.17 | yeah i agree with deadly, same rules as EMO crown: has to AT LEAST have a sput post punk tag
btw Nothing is strictly a shoegaze band | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Chances are that I might not have WiFi over the weekend, so if ro 6 comes along, please enter me as Have a Nice Life, as mentioned at the beginning of this comment section. | Conmaniac
08.11.17 | gotcha man, noted | teamster
08.12.17 | sorry bro's, busy last couple days...Here's my next rec....
http://arcticflowers.bandcamp.com/album/weaver-2 | Papa Universe
08.12.17 | Oooh, Darkwave, that's outta be good. | teamster
08.12.17 | The album is actually on Sput...never thought so... | neekafat
08.12.17 | Looks interesting teamster, only time will tell whether we like it more than the last... | teamster
08.12.17 | Yea man , no hurt feelings , I like integrity and honesty. | Conmaniac
08.12.17 | excited to jam | ZombieToyDuck
08.12.17 | Updated! | Conmaniac
08.12.17 | darkwave // dark album covers
nice | ZombieToyDuck
08.12.17 | Yeah dig the album cover for sure | ZombieToyDuck
08.12.17 | All dark album covers this round I dig it | Conmaniac
08.13.17 | jammin these now | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | [2] | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | Rejamming Fear of Music for like a 1000th time in my life. | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | re-jammin Joy Division | neekafat
08.14.17 | Ye these covers are mucho aesthetic
Btw I'm done listenin'
I always thought I'd usually be the last one to be done jamming... | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | 2/3 writeups are finished. Deadly will prob be posting soon...
all I'll say is great round, was probably the closest one | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | aight boys getting ready to post these! | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | lets gooo ay | Tyler.
08.14.17 | Oh boy | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | and posted! | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | if someone would be so kind to give me avgs lol | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | nice work deadly, as usual
also nice comeback rec teamster | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | thank ya kindly con | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | My personal opinions:
Talking Heads - Fear of Music
The classic! 4.8/5
Arctic Flowers - Weaver
Taking influences from the more direct, in-your-face and upfront side of the genre and giving it that nice heavy DIY spin. I liked the sark and somewhat subdued instrumentation, because it definitely had a certain disheartening weight to it that gave the album some kind of personality. However, the production also sometimes drowned the songwriting and most notably the vocals, not that they were anything outstanding, but a lot of the time they jsut kind of sunk in the background like a desperate yelp. It's by no means bad, but it's not particularly outstanding either. That Anamnesis track though, that kind of upfront aggression is what could have saved the album. 3.4/5 | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | teamster taking this round like a hurricane! | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | NEW SCORES:
Unique: 51.9
Tyler: 53.3
Teamster: 48.2 | Tyler.
08.14.17 | What are the scores now ? | Tyler.
08.14.17 | Nvm lol | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | edited cuz math is hard but those are the scores yep | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | thank you con bb will update | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | there we go! | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | hey tip to competitors: read the writeups. we dont do em for nothing (; | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | I do, but I also have all the recs planned out upfront. Granted, sometimes I have to delete something, because someone already rec'd it (like Talking Heads and The Sound, goddammit.) | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | you do you! | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | Also, it's kind of hard to keep up with everyone's interests, but seeing that Deadly gave Red Lorry a 5 I thought it'll be easier to get an utmost positive rating from him on a gloomy and depressive album than a positive rating from Con on an upfront, more Noisy rec, which is what he seems to like. | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | haha thats funny because in our chat we speculated that this round's rec was aimed at deadly. we know you better than you think (; | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | Well, I shall keep the round 6 rec as mentioned at the beginning, be it The Unnatural World by Have a Nice Life, cause a certain someone already spoiled Deathconsciousness for himself... | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | if that album is as dense as DC then I'm gonna have to listen to it like 10 times before I give it a fair score hahah | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | I KNEW IT! | neekafat
08.14.17 | I don't even know what neeka likes | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | yeah you make a good judge, you are rather unpredictable | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | yeah truth hahah | Tyler.
08.14.17 | my recs are aimed at people with good taste | neekafat
08.14.17 | I'll take it lol I never know what I'm gonna think, it's kinda fun! | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | been working out for ya so far :D | ZombieToyDuck
08.14.17 | https://imgflip.com/i/1u37ij | neekafat
08.14.17 | Truuu | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | it's proven to be a compliment because he's winning even if that wasnt his original intention so | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | with that being said, TYLER YOUVE BEEN NEEKA'D BOII
LC OG RATING: 4.1
RE-RATE: 4
DIFFERENCE: -.1 | neekafat
08.14.17 | It's already been counted in the current score tho lol | Conmaniac
08.14.17 | yeah yeah just wanted to make it more DRAMATIC | neekafat
08.14.17 | FUCK YE | teamster
08.14.17 | Next rec when fellas ? | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | You can put it out right now. | teamster
08.14.17 | Going old school and mainstream ....
Flock Of Seagulls - Flock Of Seagulls | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | interesting | neekafat
08.14.17 | UU i'm sorry I keep giving you 3.7s I swear it's not intentional lol | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | It's alright... Stability is my middle name, as they say. | neekafat
08.14.17 | Unique Stability Universe? | Papa Universe
08.14.17 | . . . yes . . . | neekafat
08.14.17 | :O | teamster
08.14.17 | USU | neekafat
09.16.17 | There were no changes to scores this round!
However, I figured some of you would be interested in seeing my final track ratings:
Joy Division - “Unknown Pleasures”: 3.7/5
Disorder: 7.5, Day of Our Lords: 7.5, Candidate: 7, Insight: 8, New Dawn Fades: 8, She’s Lost Control: 7.5, Shadowplay: 8, Wilderness: 7.5, Interzone: 7.5, I Remember Nothing: 8 (AVG: 7.65)
Talking Heads - Fear of Music: 3.8/5
I, Zimbra: 8.5, Mind: 7.5, Paper: 7, Cities: 7.5, Life During Wartime: 7.5, Memories Can’t Wait: 8, Air: 7.5, Heaven: 8.5, Animals: 8, Electric Guitar: 7.5, Drugs: 8 (AVG: 7.77)
Arctic Flower - Weaver: 3.6/5
Magdalene: 8, Tell My Horse: 7, Ex Oblivione: 7, Anamnesis: 7.5, (Cold Air Dead Hand), Byzantine: 7.5, Weaver: 8, Dirges Dwell: 7.5, Impasse: 7 (AVG: 7.44) |
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