AsleepInTheBack
07.03.17 | Damn you music for being so enjoyable. |
theBoneyKing
07.03.17 | I feel your pain: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=1061036&listid=163264 |
Papa Universe
07.03.17 | I feel you |
Kalopsia
07.03.17 | an embarrassment of riches i believe is what they say.
2017's music will still be here once you come back.
you can't know where you're going until you know where you've been.
some other meaningless platitude.
cheers mate. |
theBoneyKing
07.03.17 | Here's the thing Asleep. These records, and all the other ones I'm sure you want to get into some day, aren't going anywhere. Despite how some people on this and other sites like it may act, quantity of albums listened isn't everything. You just have to accept that you can't listen to everything at once and that it's going to take you years to get to certain albums or artists. You won't regret taking the time to really appreciate great albums, because the best music gets better, not worse, over time. I can usually tell within a few listens whether an album is worth my time or not, but for the ones that are, I try the best I can to give them the time the deserve. It sounds like you've already figured all this out though, so I guess this is just redundant. |
SandwichBubble
07.03.17 | 2017's music will still be here once you come back [2] |
theBoneyKing
07.03.17 | Hush Sandwich you're part of the problem ;D |
SandwichBubble
07.03.17 | 2017's music will still be here once you come back [👖]
@theBoneyKing :D i know |
Demon of the Fall
07.03.17 | I've listened to chuff all from the last 3 years, still catching up. Far too much good music out there! |
Sniff
07.03.17 | I do not recognise that feeling |
Drifter
07.03.17 | This is why I got my ratings deleted again and am not just doing them all over immediately. I'm taking time to listen to everything and I'm not worrying about trying to get a ton of ratings. |
GhandhiLion
07.03.17 | Just looking at your taste, you may like "The Lemon of Pink" by The Books. |
Demon of the Fall
07.03.17 | I'm not meaning to commandeer this list for my own devices but it's related...
How do you guys decide what the priority is? I struggle with this, feel like I'm randomly throwing darts & sometimes hit big. These days I (try &) stick to vaguely well known things that are somewhat influential first & rightly or wrongly use the Sputnik average ratings within the genres I'm interested in. |
GhandhiLion
07.03.17 | My go-to site a while ago http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/ |
AsleepInTheBack
07.03.17 | Cheers guys.
Well said Boney, thats the realisation I've just about made. The drive to listen to as much as possible as soon as possible resulted from me feeling very much under-informed on large sections of the musical world, always feeling like I'm still catching up in order to be able to participate in musical conversations as informed as possible. But as you said, the albums I want to check aren't going anywhere, so I may as well take my time and enjoy the journey.
Hush Sandwich you're part of the problem ;D [2]
As for Sunlight's question, I kind of just go for where my mood takes me, though often I try to stick to the big / influential stuff for the sake of expanding my knowledge (as you seem to), as well as things people have recommended me based on my tastes (always the surest route from my experience to finding new favourites).
Will try to give The Lemon of Pink a listen Ghandhi, after I've had a short break of course |
DoofusWainwright
07.03.17 | The trick for me is when I'm at home I 90% listen to new music, when I'm out and about wherever then I listen to stuff I have downloaded/purchased. Seems a perfect 50/50 balance most of the time. |
Demon of the Fall
07.03.17 | Yeah guess there's no correct way, I just overplan/think stuff like this. Deciding to start my DM journey based on the artists that dominated the all-time Sputnik album ratings (Death/Opeth) proved to be the most rewarding decision... doesn't always work out like that however. I used to buy random stuff on a whim because I'd read something about it once, suppose it at least broadened my horizons at the time.
There's definitely no prefect way, I'd do well to remember that. Knowing people that understand your taste must be invaluable. |
DoofusWainwright
07.03.17 | Also you have my total respect for putting 5 up |
Minushuman24
07.03.17 | I feel this so hard |
GhandhiLion
07.03.17 | Wait you guys listen to new music? 90% of my listening is to album's I have already rated. I finish an album and pretend its a "final rating" |
TheCrocodile
07.03.17 | doing that right now. Taking the year off acquiring new music (old or new). Honestly feel like it was a good decision. I'm returning to albums that I haven't given the time of day when I first heard them and some of them I really should've given more time so at least it was worth it for a couple of records.
At the end of the day, for me it was more about telling myself to calm down when new shit was coming out or finding about older classics because if I don't even give the proper time of day to enjoy stuff then what's the point. You will always have to play catch up so it seems silly not to accept that. There is indeed too much good music. |
Sniff
07.03.17 | What Doof said |
Prancer
07.03.17 | "1 or 2 listens and then I move on"
For me at least, an album is either going to click with me on first listen or I am just not going to get into it. Albums do grow on me, but usually 4.0 to 4.5 or 5.0 type of growing. In other words, I already liked it quite a bit in the first place and ended up liking it even more.
I recently tried listening to Tool again, and while I acknowledge they are a great band it's just not a band whose sound I really enjoy all that much so I am not going to try and force their albums to grow on me by listening to them over again. |
AsleepInTheBack
07.03.17 | Used to do a similar thing Doof, fell out of that habit into just gorging myself on stuff I haven't heard. 5 is quite wonderful, still got to more to unpack from it though, I can tell.
I definitely get you Prancer, but so so often I find that perseverance with something I'm indifferent to or even hate can often unveil a new favourite, so the current 1-2 listen pattern I've gotten into very much goes against my better judgement. For instance, getting past the initially harsh vocal performances on The Wild Hunt by The Tallest Man on Earth paid off massively for me, the album creeping into my top 25 or so despite my initial hatred for the thing. Similarly with the bulk of the first Thrash Metal, Death Metal and Hard Rock I'd heard, all took a bit of perseverance to crack.
Cool to see people generally have gone through similar things, figured as much of course |
FullOfSounds
07.03.17 | I feel ya man. I've been making an effort to stay with albums more recently |
Ocean of Noise
07.03.17 | I've developed a solution to this problem that at least mostly works for me. I listen to new music on weekdays, and stuff I've heard before on weekends.
Also, if you listening to more than one album a day, you could say that the first one should be new and the second one should be familiar, etc, or vice versa. |
schoonda
07.04.17 | wholeheartedly agree Asleep, a lot of users here listen to so much, but I honestly need a lot more time with albums, which is probably why I have under 300 ratings here. Also agree with your point about albums that you may not like initially turn out to become some of your favourites.
It's funny, albums that take time to listen to and get to know the album always turn out to be better than those albums that are more immediate I've found. |
bgillesp
07.04.17 | I definitely agree. This summer I'm going through discographies of artists I've only heard a little from, but I'm only giving each album 1 listen. Once the summer is over, I plan to make the rest of my listening for 2017 to be entirely stuff from 2017 plus revisiting each of my 4.5+ albums at least once. I've got a couple fives with only 3 listens although most of my 4.5+ I've given 5-10. I think a balance between new and old is important to find though. Several of my 4s are really what I need to revisit since there are so many I know I didn't fully understand my first listen, and I know more listens will either raise or lower the score. |
bgillesp
07.04.17 | That's the entire reason I first joined the site though, so I could have a record of what I should revisit. |
Risodo
07.04.17 | as a journalist student I have to say that sputnik is the best thing to ever happen to me, because all the things I dig and listen come from here |
schoonda
07.04.17 | agreed, sput really is a fantastic resource, so many discoveries have come from this site. |
Prancer
07.04.17 | "I listen to new music on weekdays, and stuff I've heard before on weekends."
I watched a Joe Rogan podcast a few months ago with Henry Rollins who said the same exact thing. |
ThisIsTheApocalypse
07.04.17 | Dude I had this problem for what seemed like ages, now I just jam whatever I feel like. Listen to what you love until it grows stagnant, or until someone gives you a rec that sounds to sweet to miss out on. |
AlexKzillion
07.04.17 | Since January 1st 2016 I've been listening to one album a day from that "1001 Albums you need to hear before you die" book because for the most part those are albums you need to hear, plus it's in chronological order so an album like Black Sabbath's debut's impact and influence is even more potent. I don't really ever listen to most of these albums more than once but for me falling in love with all those albums isn't as important to me as just seeing how music has evolved from the 50s to now.
I try to listen to a good amount of new releases, and when it comes to those, ratings have no influence on how much I will listen to a release. I gave Weezer's White Album a 3.0 on first listen, and for some reason I just keep coming back to it and have probably listened to it more than 95% of my 3.5s/4s/4.5s from last year, yet it's still a 3.0. There are just some things that I will inexplicitly feel the need to come back to. I bought Death Grip's The Money Store and absolutley hated it first listen, but something intrigued me about it and I kept listening and listening and now it's one of my favorite albums ever. Some albums just have that vibe and some (most imo) just don't. I don't force myself to go back to anything. |
Sniff
07.04.17 | Only plebs have less than 4287 ratings tbh |
ScuroFantasma
07.04.17 | It takes me ages to rate things, generally. Some times are quicker than others, but yeah I've felt similarly overwhelmed at times. Also from 2013-2015 I put way too much effort into newer music as opposed to classics, which I often enjoyed more (not always). I also felt like I was approaching things a little more "structurally" back then. Even if I flat-out hated an album, I'd jam it like 3-4 times to see how it would grow or I'd feel I wasn't giving it a proper chance. Never made it better tbh. There's so much good music out there it's just not worth the effort to force something. And that goes for cramming in as much new music as possible too. If listening starts to becomes a chore, you're doing something wrong (: That's the way I see it anyway.
So lately I sample things that interest me, and stick with the stuff that I want to pursue, whether they're quality, intriguing or just weird. |
Sniff
07.04.17 | Make that 4288 |
GhandhiLion
07.04.17 | At least he has good ratings. |
Demon of the Fall
07.04.17 | Part of my issue is the recent realisation that I really like metal despite owning hardly any of it, think I'm trying too hard in playing ' catch up'. It'd be nice if it was a more natural thing. It doesn't help when you comment on *insert genre classic* & people are all like 'dude, how have you not heard this?'... or 'yeah, duh!' etc. when you praise said classic. |
Davil667
07.04.17 | "It takes me ages to rate things, generally."
^
For me it's way more easy to rate something I don't like than stuff I really enjoy. If I'm enjoying a record I need to listen to it repeated times in order to being able to give it a proper rating. I rarely rate albums at first listen, I usually need time to digest 'em which may even take some months on occasion, hence my relatively small number of ratings. |
teamster
07.04.17 | My life would be considerably more musically fruitful if iTunes supported FLAC files. |
AsleepInTheBack
07.04.17 | It's funny, albums that take time to listen to and get to know the album always turn out to be better than those albums that are more immediate I've found [2] for sure mate.
@ThisIsTheApocalypse Solid advice
I get you MrAlex, got that 1001 book myself (or at least one version of it), very useful and a drive for me to check the evolution of genres. Certainly loved delving into a lot of British classics lately
"If listening starts to becomes a chore, you're doing something wrong" I agree with this up to a point - challenging my tastes, even if it requires some unsavoury listening at times, is so so important in my book, helps develop my tastes and appreciation for music in general. But yeah, of course there is a point where continued listening is unenjoyable and futile.
And totally get you Sunlight, thats half the reason for why I keep giving such cursory listens, just to catch up with the discussion |
thefloydios
07.04.17 | I agree! I love listening to new music once in a while but when I find an album i like I always binge listen to it for a while. I've probably heard the Led Zeppelin, Steely Dan, Genesis, Rush, Yes, Dream theater and beatles entire discographies hundreds of times throughout my life and never tire of doing so. I probably get really into 20 new albums per year because I don't listen 1 or 2 times and then give up I listen till I know every note lol! I know that's going to prevent me from hearing all the good shit out there but I dont care, if I love something why not enjoy it! |
OldCrime
07.04.17 | Yep, feel this. I've been meaning to take a break from new music to catch up on all the stuff I've collected this past year. |
Trundle
07.04.17 | When my ipod classic glitched out, I couldn't add music to it. So i took like all of 2014 off looking for new music, it actually worked out pretty well. All I can say is, try not to feel pressure to keep up with every new release, stick to your favourite bands releases, and the rest you'll get to when you get to.
and getting ratings for the sake of ratings is pretty silly imo. |