BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | I think I lay somewhere between the Mosher and the Nodder. I love being a part of a good pit, but I also know when it's time to cut the chord and just listen to the music. |
Shemson
04.18.16 | Haha man this is so spot on! Glad I'm not the only one to notice the grumpy pusher! Just move somewhere else mate!? |
torts
04.18.16 | I'm 1,3, and 6 |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | Thanks man! Yeah, that role is definitely one of the goofier ones out there. |
DoofusWainwright
04.18.16 | I've been most of these at one point or another |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | This is surprisingly accurate.
Although describing the mosher as "Usually wearing a bro tank and snapback." makes it sound like you've only ever been to metalcore/deathcore shows |
Masochist
04.18.16 | So much truth in this. I'd even add one: the Serial Crowd Surfer. Doesn't do it just once or twice, but once they've made it to the front and security has pulled them down, they rush back to do it again. Crowd surfing sucks when you're a Front Row Packer, and to see the same guy over and over again bashing into your skull with his bony ass really makes you want break his legs.
Or maybe that's me. |
Treeman
04.18.16 | Im the guy who splits people's heads open |
Treeman
04.18.16 | at the all time low show |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | @MAsochist Nah I've seen those quite a few times
also
The Princess: The type of girl who will walk through a mosh pit and push her way to the front row while looking offended if anyone has to audacity to push back. |
Treeman
04.18.16 | GET IN THE PIT MAN |
DoofusWainwright
04.18.16 | A few more:
Kamikaze tomboy skater chick: thinks she can mosh but she's got the build of an eight year old child. Last seen trying to recover her shoe (she forgot to tie them up extra secure) from a circle pit and now likely unconscious.
Wanker Type 1: this dude and his posse just turn up at the venue each week to get pissed and don't give a shit who's playing. They'll just play fight and shout through the entire set.
Wanker Type 2: This cat just wants a fight and once in the pit will sneak gut and face punches in to the mix whenever possible. They usually get away with it having perfected the art of being a cunt at shows over many many years |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | Aw man, some of my best concert experiences have been in pits. Adds a physical dimension to the intensity of the live music. Very visceral, cathartic even |
Treeman
04.18.16 | TBH Im really large so I just stand midway through the crowd behind the pit so i dont get in anyones way or hurt anybody incidentally |
hesperus
04.18.16 | I'm probably a Front Row Packer by location, Balcony Nodder by behavior. I like being really close to the band, but I usually get there by showing up early and staking my claim before the first opener, not pushing my way to the front. And I know my voice sucks so I don't even try singing along, much less grabbing the mike. I usually just lightly headbang and enjoy watching the band do their stuff. |
hesperus
04.18.16 | Ov: Kindred spirits, you and I. |
guitarded_chuck
04.18.16 | ive literally been like all of these at some point |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | @SCREAM! I can change that definitely. A lot of the shows I've seen have been in college towns, so that's probably why. One of my favorite shows was in the pit at a GWAR concert. All these normal people entered, but when the lights went up everyone was soaked and torn up. That moment was really fucking powerful.
@Masochist that's what i was trying to get at with the Silver Surfer but I can add the part where it's more of a serial event than anything.
@Doofuswainwright I got a chuckle out of that. I'll add them to the list. |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | "Pits ruin the whole experience. How can you sit there and watch and experience and band up close when some jerks are just pushing each other around and jumping all over one another?"
It's part of the experience though. It's a way to unwind/blow off steam that isn't comparable to anything else really. I was actually disappointed by the lack of mosh pit at the Kvelertak show I went to. Would've much rather let loose with their energetic punk/metal playing in the background then stand there and watch a bunch of hairy/sweaty dudes play |
ChoccyPhilly
04.18.16 | "Content with watching the concert from a safe place not in the pit. These people don’t dance or seriously head bang, they just stand there and stare, maybe occasionally nodding their head like a float on a fishing line."
Yep, that's me. Some fag was giving me a condescending look because i did this at the front row and he was headbanging his arse off. cunt. |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | @Beyond Could be. I've definitely seen that type of mosher but I've never noticed them as being predominant. Plenty of dudes in their plain metal band t's or wearing denim vest, long hair, short hair. Not any specific common denominator really other than they mostly look like metalheads in one way or another. |
ChoccyPhilly
04.18.16 | tbh, some concerts I wouldnt mind losing my shit for and going all in for a mosh pit, I probably will do that if death grips comes to the UK but for the most part, I just like to watch and take in as much as i can |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | "It's comparable to a hundred sweaty strangers aggressively pushing you and breathing in your face. No thank you. I pay for a ticket to see a band play. Not to play bouncy sweat-circle with strangers. "
That's the equivalent of someone saying "welp listening to death metal is basically just a bunch of noisy unmelodic guitars with toneless grunting over top".
Like sure you're not wrong but you're missing the point entirely. |
theNateman
04.18.16 | I always go to shows with my girlfriend tho we almost always stand in the back nodding our heads. Tho once we aent to this festival and I carried her on my shoulders for like two hours. I so so sore afterwards haha |
guitarded_chuck
04.18.16 | "I hate mosh pits with a passion."
we found the Fanboy |
MO
04.18.16 | hahaha a lot of these are spot on, great list |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | Also the Hardcore Dancer deserves to be a separate personality altogether
Fuck those guys |
TheBarber
04.18.16 | 136 viva |
theNateman
04.18.16 | @scream, right?? I broke my nose in a mosh pit because of one of those guys |
DoofusWainwright
04.18.16 | The human-cow biohazard: the absolute worst person to be stood behind at a show, its a mystery what this (invariably male) customer ate before the gig as they've not stopped their flatulence ever since they entered the venue. Is the music causing an involuntary relaxation effect? |
DoofusWainwright
04.18.16 | Watched Kyuss Lives in Camden and that was the worst case of the above of all time it made my eyes water |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | @thenateman I'm totally for enjoying music with your girlfriend! I just think there are some couples out there who do it in a really silly way. They death grip each other and don't let go even in the middle of the pit.
A variation of this was at a Coheed and Cambria concert. A dad took four kids to a concert (I'm assuming for a birthday) and literally stretched his arms out behind them and grabbed the shoulders of the dudes on either side of him. He created their own little space. This wouldn't be annoying except they were in the pit, and just taking up that much space in an already small venue is inconsiderate.
@Ovdeath I can totally understand where you're coming from. For me the pit is a place to blow off steam. Does it smell like salami? Yeah, but for me it's an experience that can potentially elevate the excitement of a concert. Like Scream! said, there's definitely a physical aspect that I think is kinda an important part to a concert experience. But it's not for everyone and that's cool. |
ChoccyPhilly
04.18.16 | I dunno, standing behind the hardcore dancer that clearly isnt really there for the music is a bit more annoying |
TheBarber
04.18.16 | the ancient oak: often seen in bm/doom/stoner concerts, he's older than average, tall as fuck with long beard and hair, doesn't move that much but he's feelin' it |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | Shit! I totally forgot about the hardcore dancer. I'll put that one up.
One of the funniest experiences I had at a concert was with Havok. Before their set, like no set music or anything, they came on stage and said "If you see any doing karate in the pit I want you to dropkick that motherfucker." It was a great way to set the tone for the night. |
DirEnRefused
04.18.16 | list is dead on |
CalculatingInfinity
04.18.16 | "One of the funniest experiences I had at a concert was with Havok. Before their set, like no set music or anything, they came on stage and said "If you see any doing karate in the pit I want you to dropkick that motherfucker." It was a great way to set the tone for the night."
Haha my respect for Havok has increased dramatically. |
DungeonBoy
04.18.16 | Dude, I just caught Havok on their tour with Bodom and they were absolutely phenomenal. I've listen to their albums, and thought they were decent, but seeing them live completely changed my impression of them. They are one of the tightest bands I've ever seen live and were super entertaining. |
Spec
04.18.16 | Great list. I think I've been most of these at one point. |
CalculatingInfinity
04.18.16 | I imagine since the production on their albums are so flat, I'd totally go to one of their gigs. |
Tunaboy45
04.18.16 | You forgot the bald, sweaty bearded guy wearing a pantera tshirt who's probably drunk and ready to pick a fight with anyone who makes eye contact with him. |
Tunaboy45
04.18.16 | This guy was moshing so hard he faceplanted the concrete floor and knocked himself out cold, we carried him to the front but not a clue if he survived or not. |
torts
04.18.16 | "Pits ruin the whole experience. How can you sit there and watch and experience and band up close when some jerks are just pushing each other around and jumping all over one another?"
you are such a pushover, no wonder you make noise instead of actual music lmao |
macman76
04.18.16 | http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-02/why-mosh-pits-make
The mosh pit collective |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | I'm pretty surprised snox is so vehemently against pits given that he listens to more death metal than most other users on here |
DoofusWainwright
04.18.16 | Hive mind |
macman76
04.18.16 | What about the benevolent mosh pit caretaker, stands at the edge of the mosh and ensure that the pit is self contained, I do this a lot |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | "everyone at death metal concerts just stands there and headbangs and talks to each other and such"
The only DM show I've been to with no mosh pit was Beyond Creation and that was because the venue was too badly laid out to allow one |
torts
04.18.16 | I more or less meant pushover in a physical sense, in that you probably got pushed around and got a bruise in a pit once and now you just whine about em whenever they're brought up, but eh |
Avagantamos
04.18.16 | the first time I saw dillinger esc plan some kid tried to stage dive into the pit, nobody caught him and he face planted into the floor |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | @avagantamos That image killed me. |
ZippaThaRippa
04.18.16 | I am 8. I don't care if the openers aren't my thing. Heads gonna bang. |
ZippaThaRippa
04.18.16 | Also a 1 |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | I vary between 1-3 depending on the band |
ZippaThaRippa
04.18.16 | I don't like 2s, why bother |
hal1ax
04.18.16 | Good list |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | "I don't like 2s, why bother"
To watch and listen? |
BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | I'm definitely a 2 when it's the openers and they aren't particularly selling it. I remember, when I went to see Havok, Municipal Waste opened for them. They threw down and were an excellent example of an opener that go things going. It was a super small venue but they had us do a wall of death and all sorts of other shit. I always feel bad for openers but then again I've never played with a band live.
Anyone who has, is it hard to get the crowd pumped? I feel like you have to just be charismatic and active but again I've never been in an opener's position. |
hesperus
04.18.16 | Never been in that position myself, but something I've observed is that the openers that are better at getting the crowd excited are the ones who have a bigger reputation, even if it's just a local one. Ex: Loma Prieta toured with Converge a few years back, and at the show I saw them at in Chicago, the crowd was pretty still during Loma's set. But the local band that opened for them, Weekend Nachos, got the crowd moving a lot more because they had built up notoriety in the local scene. |
SCREAM!
04.18.16 | When I saw Loma open for Converge they played great and I really enjoyed the music but their stage presence was pretty tame for a screamo band. I don't know how they were for your show but that probably has a lot to do with it as well.
I've seen crowds go from uncertain/uneasy to jumping and cheering in the span of a half hour set when the opener knows how to interact with them (and plays songs they enjoy as well of course) |
hal1ax
04.18.16 | i guess I'm like in between 2 & 3, with a heavy dose of 5 mixed in |
Gameofmetal
04.18.16 | i usually just like to sit back and observe unless it's a band im really into. in that case i might get up close and have some fun but in really no situation would you catch me in a pit lol |
Snake.
04.18.16 | Can I put in a request?
Continental rifter: The people in the middle of the crowd looking to spend 90% of the show in the pit or crowdsurfing (depending on the situation). They also have a tendency to not give a flying fuck about personal space, whether it be somebody else's or their own, as they will always lean over and scream their lungs out to the lyrics during the climax of a song. |
Nocturnalize
04.18.16 | I'm a 3,4 and 15 hybrid
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BeyondCosby
04.18.16 | @snakedelilah I think that role is kinda covered by the mosher or silver surfer. I think any of the roles mentioned above can have people within it that are disrespectful or always in your face, I would just call them a douche haha. |
RogueNine
04.18.16 | Not sure what I am but I remember my Dad surprised me with tickets to AiC and I decided I would buy my own in a separate section. I lose it at shows and there's no way I'd do that with my Dad next to me. |
Emyay
04.18.16 | theres always that big fucker that weights close to 300 pounds and is impossible to budge in the pit |
RVAHC13
04.18.16 | What about the drunken fangirl who moshes her way to the front of the stage, throwing up the horns and screaming loudly while Alex G is desperately trying to maintain his composure without chuckling at the sound of her boisterously yelling slurred obscenities at him |
Prognoz
04.18.16 | I've seen all of these in a single Deafheaven concert lol |
Flugmorph
04.18.16 | depends. im all back row nodder, rooster, fanboy and headbanger |
dmp3131
04.18.16 | If it's a band I don't really know or like, I'm probably a back row nodder. If it's a heavier band I'm in the pit jumping around, and if it's one of my favorites I'm pretty much the fanboy.
Description of the couple is spot on, seems just like a waste of time for both of them. But, at least they bought tickets for the band. |