Jasdevi087
08.04.23 | also Saints and Leeds are coming straight back up in the automatic spots |
ZombieParty
08.04.23 | come on tottenham hope we can get top 4 |
DadKungFu
08.04.23 | ARSENAL ad infinitum |
bludngorevidal
08.04.23 | as a Fulham fan my goal is to finish above Burnley, but our offseason was so weak I don't know that we have it in us |
bludngorevidal
08.04.23 | your wolves pick is the boldest IMO, I have them much lower but time will tell |
AdoreSwancore
08.04.23 | I’ll be surprised if Wolves get anywhere close to 10th. They only scored 31 goals last season and they’ve made no major signings, lost Neves to Al-Hilal, and reports suggest Lopetegui (who is pretty much the reason they stayed up last season) is supposedly considering whether or not to quit right now. Also I don’t think Fulham 17th is the craziest shout in the world. |
Jasdevi087
08.04.23 | that's exactly why Wolves gonna be crazy |
anarchistfish
08.04.23 | Arsenal pls |
Sinternet
08.04.23 | fulham overperformed last season and had barely any injuries if i recall so could def get spicy this year, lower midtable
think everton stay up because lol everton plot armour
chelsea 3rd/4th/5th guaranteed this year + a cup win but half the team stays out on long term injuries
arsenal fail to recover from disappointment last year and people figure out their system a bit more and they languish in lower cl places
man utd start strong and look to turn a new leaf then have the late season slump of all slumps
city do city mostly and win easily but we start to see the decline of kdb and other older first teamers
liverpool limp around lower cl spots for most of the season except for every couple months randomly beating a midtable club 8-0 and then losing 1-0 to a team in a relegation battle
spurs collapse after losing kane/knowing theyll lose kane next summer - son gains back some of his old form and theres a 75% reduction in hilarious goalkeeper mistakes but the defence completely implodes and they end the season with negative gd
newcastle take a second place finish comfortably ahead of the rest of the pack but disappoint in europe
villa and brighton both look set to creep into cl spots but have deep europe runs and lag a little bit in the league, ending up both getting europa
wolves relegation battle this is easy
luton obviously down, although tbf their entire transfer strategy has been to get an unstoppable championship team to come straight back more prepared
forest narrowly escape relegation amid off the field bullshit
west ham lower midtable, disappointing european run
brentford cement themselves as solid midtable
burnley get 10th/11th
bournemouth stay up with like one match to go
sheffield united lol bye bye
crystal palace do nothing interesting as always, and finish 13th/14th, as always |
AdoreSwancore
08.04.23 | @sinternet Chelsea 3rd - 5th from 12th last season is ballsy. I know they’ve done similar before, but I’m pretty sure at the moment their only senior midfielders are Enzo and Connor Gallagher. |
bellovddd
08.04.23 | I'm a spurs fan and an Aussie so I hope we keep Kane and then I'll be pretty excited for the season. although I know we will come 7th. |
Jasdevi087
08.04.23 | "I'm a spurs fan and an Aussie"
sorry to hear that |
bellovddd
08.04.23 | fair |
Jasdevi087
08.04.23 | Wednesday looked better than I thought they would against Saints, but I'm still worried they're gonna go back down
Totally didn't even click that Southampton still had Che Adams and Adam Armstrong, they're pretty much guaranteed 1st |
Winesburgohio
08.05.23 | gonna start following AVWFC so i have twice as many games to wake up at 4 in the morning for |
Sinternet
08.05.23 | theyre not a bad team! def showing year on year improvement |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | Reckon Tottenham will have a stinker.
Luton won’t get relegated
Villa to do well
|
henryChinaski
08.05.23 | hope Harry Kane stays at Tottenham cause Bayern sucks, coming from a German |
bellovddd
08.05.23 | I wonder if anyone is going to buy Ward-Prowse. |
Jasdevi087
08.05.23 | the thing with ward-prose tho is he's kinda getting on a bit and direct free kicks are kinda his main schtick. He'd really only wind up at a lower table club anyway, may as well stay at Southampton or go to Rangers or something |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | Chelsea will be top 4 easy I’m predicting - that lol will be wiped. No Europe and Pochy botchy loves a team of young boys to groom for his needs (what?)
Liverpool are doing fuck all, Klopp has lost his bop, see them lower - seem at the end of a cycle. Salah casting longing glances at zimmer frames.
Spurs to flirt with relegation like Everton this season - change of managers at Christmas, maybe Potter, plus we desperately enter the ‘goal scorer’ market and make a ludicrous bid to secure Ivan Toney (who?) and survival second half of the season |
Muzz79
08.05.23 | Don’t write off Ange yet |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | I will and I have.
He’s dead, gone already.
Already judging the next manager that’s how much of an irrelevance he is.
Blokes already stopped smiling and is mumbling something about defenders eyes locked firmly on the desk in front of him. Crushed his spirit already. |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | lol |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | Big Ange is no Fat Sam
He’s going to be the toughest Spurs related pub quiz question in ten years time. |
Muzz79
08.05.23 | He’s been successful everywhere he’s been so far so it’s an interesting appointment. |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | He’s less qualified to be a PL manager than Nuno and hasn’t been helped in any way this pre season.
The man responsible for 70% of Spurs goals last season is walking out the door in body and if not in spirit. He’s a classic fall guy, he’s been employed as such and will do the job he’s been asked to do! |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | I have a feeling we could be hovering around the relegation places as well. Bottom six something like that.
Our defence is shite, we will ship goals like nobodies business. The Ardiles era without the character |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | We’ve bought a weak keeper with no experience who can’t catch a football.
The lad Hercule Porro can’t head a ball either - going to concede from three crosses a game!
Even our star signing was relegated last year. It doesn’t bode well. |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | On the plus side though a pie and pint is only 35 quid. |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | They still jacked up the prices - good old spurs board!
The third most profitable team to own in WORLD SPORT - only two yank football sides have been more successful in creaming the cheddar from ‘captive audience’ fans than spurs over the last couple of decades.
Shameful shameful stuff. I’ll probably still visit the Soul Harvester Stadium a couple of times next season, good time to get a season ticket actually, someone who was previously 90,000th on the list got one the other day allegedly. Giving them up in droves. |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | Arab and yank owned nonsense has absolutely throttled the game.
May become a reverse glory supporter and start to go to Luton which is a contender for the worst shithole on the planet but at least there’s soul. |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | Luton, best known for its airport (escape route) - Brentford a lot more palatable, I should have supported them the last six years.
Lived in Isleworth when they were just starting to get it together, just down the road. |
Jasdevi087
08.05.23 | Brentford are a fucking blast to watch, I would if my team sucked too
that being said... we did just sell our entire midfield... Brighton lookin kinda good rn ngl |
dedex
08.05.23 | Arsenal yeehawww |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | Top 8 prediction:
1. City (boring dynasty)
2. Chelsea (to finish outside the top 4 after THAT spend would be one of the biggest failures in PL history)
3. Man U
4. Arsenal
5. Villa
6. Liverpool
7. Newcastle
8. Brighton |
markjamie
08.05.23 | Just hope it's one of the years when West Ham aren't fighting to avoid relegation.
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Shemson
08.05.23 | We won’t get relegated. Dyche is so much better than that clown Lampard as shown by how abysmal Chelsea did second half of last season.
I think Fulham with join Sheff U and Luton - they never really looked convincing even when they were in good form and it looks like they’ll lose some key players like Mitrovic and Willian |
Jasdevi087
08.05.23 | didn't they just re-sign Willian on a free or something?
your recruitment so far has been to ditch half your squad and bring in Ashley Young though. plus Dyche was heading down with Burnley last time he was in the prem |
bellovddd
08.05.23 | ange will be right at spurs. |
bighubbabuddha
08.05.23 | City will win comfortably. 1st
Man United will surprise people. 2nd
Liverpool will ship too many goals but get top 4. 3rd
Arsenal will struggle with small squad and Europe. 4th |
Shemson
08.05.23 | They signed Willian and are now selling him to Saudi… proper weird!
We haven’t ditched anyone mate, the only quality player to leave was Mina but he was injured more often than not.
We sold Simms but he never really cut it sadly so won’t really be a miss. Other than that I think Begovic has gone who was third choice keeper.
We signed Young as a one year stop gap and he played like 30 times for Villa last season so seems a decent addition and we’ve added Danjuma on loan and will actually play here unlike Spurs!
We’re about to sign a young striker from Sporting Lisbon and other rumours are mostly around adding strikers/wingers/center backs and Demarai Gray leaving which is fine as Dyche never played him because he can’t defend.
Dyche is better than Lampard and our squad should be marginally better than last year when the window closes. It won’t be pretty again but I think we’ll finish 15th or higher |
Jasdevi087
08.05.23 | damn didn't have both Wrexham and Notts County conceding 5 goals on opening day |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | Nice to see the SPL has been wrapped up on the first day |
DoofDoof
08.05.23 | Lol |
Shemson
08.05.23 | Lol Rodgers being able to win the lot in Scotland but then managing to relegate Leicester says it all! |
zakalwe
08.05.23 | I’d have preferred Rodger’s at Tottenham to be honest, at least we would be guaranteed mid table. |
MyNameIsPencil
08.06.23 | I'm fulling expecting relegation for the wolves, but I'm hoping you're right somehow. |
Deez
08.06.23 | Think Klopps been left scrimping around as he didn't expect to lost Both His captain and fabinhio with 2 weeks left till the season..doesn't excuse the criminal neglect of the need for a left sided centre back. I can excuse cover for Trent as Ramsay was injured..were not far away maybe 1 or 2 but still is A2 big holes. Fancy
City
Liverpool (if we get said 2 across the line)
Chelsea
Arsenal
Utd
Villa
Spurs
Everton to take their poss stadium to The championship |
Chippe
08.06.23 | Zakalwe said it but premier Lleague is like car accident: don't wan't to look but can't help watching it |
Shemson
08.06.23 | Haha say what you about Everton but our new stadium is beautiful |
zakalwe
08.06.23 | Soulless as fuck.
It’s no Goodison
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Shemson
08.06.23 | It’s not one of these identikit stadiums that got thrown up by Southampton and co. the crowd is right on the pitch still just like Goodison, plenty of soul from plenty of angry scousers as we’re getting beat 🤣
Remains to be seen when it’s finished obviously but it looks good mate
|
Deez
08.06.23 | The Boo Camp |
rabidfish
08.06.23 | Just give the trophy to city already. There's no way they lose. No matter how slow they start and how many points they leave behind in the 1st half, the 2nd half of the tourney they ALWAYS annihilate. Fuckers. |
Pheromone
10.01.23 | Didn't see this!!
That fuckin Spurs win yesterday has me laughing. Pool of all times claiming a conspiracy against them is hilarious. We played better with 11 vs 11 and then got worse when pool when down to 10, and then even worse when they went down to 9. Ange ball against the best low blocks is a bit of a struggle and I don't think Son or Maddison were 100% out there.
Interesting season where there are a bunch of atrocious teams in the league but also some really good quality up in the top half of the table. |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | spurs looking the goods. Son and Maddison coming good and Ange knows exactly what he is doing. |
Deez
10.01.23 | Talking absolute shite there Phero lad.
Weve already had a red card rescinded where only 7 games in. Now we have one of the worst offside decisions youll ever see. Theres no conspiracy theyre just fking inept. Although after also losing the league to that Rodri handball I dont actaully blame some people. VAR not realising the on field decision was offside and telling them 'Check over' thinking it was a goal is beyond incompetent, add that to Jotas first yellow where he didnt even touch him (a dumb as fk second from Jota). Even Andy gray and the hary handed mutant where sticking up for us and they fking hate us, Mancs , Blues never seen everyone take our side so much because it was unreal, everyones just had enough of this shite because they know your just around the corner from it happening to you.
You absolutely were not the best team with 11 either hahah Was pretty even. Even Big Ange said we were better first half |
Deez
10.01.23 | 'spurs looking the goods.'
Took an own goal after 96 minutes against 9 men. Im not sold. the Ange love in is great cos hes boss, loved him at celltic. VERY similar to Klopp when he took over and bonding with the crowd, everyone loved him. That will wear off and theyll hate him the second spurs are a threat. Defo be challenging for top 4 and domestics. Bench is weak though still. |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | we would have lost that game any other year not a doubt in my mind. Feels a lot different this time round with Ange. |
Pheromone
10.01.23 | https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article26818044.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_GettyImages-1486634179.jpg
last season, champions league final - feels good getting the rub of ref decisions against pool for the first time in a while
i didn't say we were better, i said we played better against 11 then we did against 10 or 9
we never fucking win this fixture, and we were lookin crisp (albeit with some shakiness) in the first 20 - looked the making of a cracking game (which, to be fair, it still was)
|
Pheromone
10.01.23 | was doubting why ange took son off so early bellov, but i reckon it was probably a pre-determined swap given son had a knock in the game before and apparently was somewhat nursing an injury
maybe worth resting him versus luton |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | Ye Ange said he was carrying a knock and was only going to ever play an hour or so. Still lead us from the front well despite being injured! Sticking richie out wide also might be the idea |
Pheromone
10.01.23 | Yeah Richie looks a level ahead of Solomon on the left. I think this was our worst game so far, but it's hard to really gather anything from a game against ten (or nine lol) players. Fact is we've 7 points from Man U, Pool & Arse. Not bad for 7 games into Ange's tenure... |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | yep. we got the 3 points so ill take it. Longggg way to go but there are some good signs!! |
VlacDrac
10.01.23 | Oi, you got a TV loicense for that, mate? |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | i'm 100% getting that Wolves prediction right |
Pheromone
10.01.23 | god neto is so good |
Deez
10.01.23 | Champs league final hahahhaha when sissoko had his arm out 90 degrees in the box?? Always been a pen can't believe you still cryarrse about that prob wouldn't be now cos of the deflection off his chest but that rule wasn't in place then 100 percent a handball which ironically is equally how you beat City to even get there.
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/moussa-sissoko-penalty-233664
Footy bias blinkers are great aren't they
'rub of decisions'
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12500681/tottenhams-harry-kane-lucky-to-be-spared-red-card-against-liverpool-ref-watch
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10326785/amp/Jamie-Redknapp-Jamie-Carragher-blast-horrendous-decision-Paul-Tierney.html
|
Deez
10.01.23 | Defo nothing suss here by the way,
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/darren-england-officiated-in-uae-just-48-hours-before-var-error-k0jzwzrsp
I've never bought into the corruption shouts but given that yesterday and that City handball that still stings. I mean Spain and Italy is so why wouldn't it be here? Looks like he was practicing his cards too.
8 card I think yesterday and 2 reds and couldn't for a second call that a dirty game. We also had a VAR error that didn't spot Saka miles offside cos of the 'angle' pretty sure it was Darren England as well. Funny that, Worst officials in the world are all in this country somehow |
Deez
10.01.23 | Oh and BTW spurs could still have won the game we go one up at 1-0 it's a Completely different game but no one knows the outcome of that game, might have kicked spurs into gear. Just sick of watching highlights about refereeing decisions every weekend. Spurs got a massive win there , we played really well with 10 men (defended well) and all anyone's talking about is these fat bald unfit for purpose bellends AGAIN |
Pikazilla
10.01.23 | obligatory fuck arsenal comment, been a shit club since henry days |
Sinternet
10.01.23 | the offside was obviously a joke and darren england should never be allowed to be involved in the pl again after that
i swear there's nothing like pool fans to get wound up and start claiming bias though. jones red card was 100% a red and that precedent has already been set this season, jota was a grade a moron to put that tackle in seconds after his first yellow even if that was flimsy (i still have not seen a good angle of the first yellow tbh but from what i saw it looked like contact to me and players know what they're doing running across an attacker from behind). |
CamiloG
10.01.23 | I still can’t get over that offside call on Lucho's goal, what a fucking joke. VAR in the prem has always been a disaster. |
FreakMachine
10.01.23 | anyone who truly believed chelsea to finish 6th is so stupid it's unbelievable. They're my club and I can see what nobody else can see -Boehly is sleepwalking them to mid-table obscurity. Using amortization rules to avoid FFP by putting players on 7-8 year contracts, buying up young players who haven't had especially great careers so far for ridiculous fees, ensuring they can't sell them on and nobody will take them. Lack of European football, meaning attracting real talent is difficult. Ignoring Pochettino's repeated public cries for a striker and goalkeeper. Chelsea's offensive stats are really good, as are their defensive stats. They just can't score, and there's no creativity on the wings whatsoever. Chelsea will continue to be a mid-table club until this Capitalist clown leaves out club. |
CamiloG
10.01.23 | Yeah, as a neutral follower of the prem, I have to say that Chelsea's situation is quite sad. That being said, Chelsea and United have provided some timeless memes this season. |
FreakMachine
10.01.23 | Yeah Chelsea and United are both garbage at the moment. But Chelsea's problems are deeper rooted, going back to that Capitalist idiot. He seems to think "oh throw money at any young player any team is looking at but at twice the fee and an 8 year contract" is a strategy for building a winning team. Without any experience or a proven goalscorer and using Brighton's third choice keeper. |
Deez
10.01.23 | @sin
Jota literally doesn't make any attempt to clip him, tackle him, nothing ,he's just running, players clips heel on Jotas knee then his own foot, there's nothing Jota can do about it, shouldn't even be a foul never mind a yellow. The player them was waving an imaginary yellow something your supposed to be booked for and we've had 2 yellows for but nothing. It was an extraordinary display of incompetence, they're too disorganized for it to he corrupt. I don't really have a problem with the red , funny how most players say it wasn't and others say it isI get he's unlucky but I'd want that the other way. There's no excusing that yellow or the offside (or Jota for his stupid 2nd yellow)especially. There's also a tackle on Gomez in the box that's no different than VVD on isak which apparently we were mad to say wasn't a red (it was) and now we're mad to want it the other way around
https://x.com/DN9LFC/status/1708443757589213451?t=s0SKwhycBlzXI4ekzn-35g&s=09 |
Deez
10.01.23 | Jota
https://twitter.com/Kloppholic/status/1708396450537725991?t=5a5euzuig_2KABCSVklhbQ&s=19 |
Sinternet
10.01.23 | i mean the contact there is a foul any day of the week, very harsh to give a yellow for it but you can't run behind an attacker like that even if it's accidental. the gomez clip he just runs into the defender? he initiates the contact there. i dont remember the vvd one. |
Deez
10.01.23 | The fella kicks Jota he's not even close to him.never a foul but if given still never a yellow. Gomez gets the ball first. Foul anywhere else. Mad you think ones a foul and one isn't hahah defender doesn't touch the ball. Jones was similar to that Chelsea lad last week Gutso, whatever his name is.
You can't run behind an attacker?? Hahha they're even warping fans heads
The major take away is the offside. It's inexcusable. |
Deez
10.01.23 | P.S Everton tho |
Deez
10.01.23 | What the fk are they even watching??
Just an absolute farce now
https://twitter.com/stehoare/status/1708509146608214369?t=NSe4htBSeUaj-u5tN2Xf8w&s=19
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zakalwe
10.01.23 | Just tried to hoof it. Never a pen. |
Deez
10.01.23 | Yeah and missed the fking ball and volleyed the man..obvious pen
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1708504715795869853?t=BuDvKJ0eFY-sfTpfEPyUww&s=19 |
zakalwe
10.01.23 | Absolutely no malicious intent whatsoever and wasn’t reckless. Keeper was trying to clear the ball albeit after a shite first touch and was closed down mid hoof making contact with the player. Can’t be a pen otherwise the game really would be a farce. |
Egarran
10.01.23 | This has been a morbidly entertaining round. Poor Liverpool fans. |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | did anyone else see that Everton got bought out by an investment firm that's sank about 5 historic clubs out of their top flight leagues over the last 5 or so years? |
zakalwe
10.01.23 | They’re going down with the Burnley |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | Liverpool fans gotta release crying ain’t bringing the three points back. Lol |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | doesn't matter we're still only two points off city anyway, and it's not like we weren't eventually gonna take a silly L to Crystal Palace at some point anyway lol
we gonna finish the season with 80 goals for and 70 against |
Deez
10.01.23 | Exactly we weren't winning it anyway with 9 men we only lost a point. It's being robbed of going one nil up by a horrific communication error. Little kids going 'hahha Chelsea/Manu in yo face' ' cry more' and the usual virgin soundbites by people who casually watch the match and haven't been to a gamein there 14 years in on earth I couldn't care less about . The games being absolutely ruined by terrible officiating on a daily basis. Is argue 7 just 7 games in every team already has a howler against them that should not be happening with twice as many officials and half with fking computers.
https://twitter.com/Bottle_Job_FC/status/1708192831372677433?t=oU5Y4bF78nrPxoPNnSllDw&s=19
@ Zak 'no malicious intent,trying to clear the ball and closed down mid hoof'
I guess this you would have say that this wasn't a pen either then since it meets all those
https://tenor.com/Uibx.gif |
Shemson
10.01.23 | Lol Jas if by ‘relegating about five historic clubs’ you mean no historic clubs but Hertha Berlin who had only got promoted ten years ago after only investing in November than sure 🤣
Deals also not done yet but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story
There is so much real shit you can talk about Everton right now you really don’t need to make stuff up! I was at the game yesterday, trust me I know. |
Deez
10.01.23 | I always say Everton will stay up cos theres always 3 teams worse than then (somehow) but they just lost at home to one of them. |
Shemson
10.01.23 | The way I see it is we have an undoubtably better squad than last season, shifting some deadweight, bringing in depth up top and Branthwaite looks a very good CB after his loan at psv
On top of that, Luton, Burnley and Sheff U are far worse than Leeds, Leicester and Southampton so I think we’ll be ok, just
Our problem is that we can’t break down stubborn teams with 10 men behind the ball (which is why our home record is so bad) and we do stupid zonal set piece defending… put those two together and you’ll see why we lost to Luton even with 68% possession and 23 shots on goal but managed to comfortably dispatch Brentford and Villa back to back before it.
We’ll stay up by getting points off the mid teams who have a go at us, we lost against Southampton at home last season too don’t forget 🤣 |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | your
squad
is
so much worse wtf
that's also a really weird rhetorical slight of hand to imply that Hertha Berlin have only been relevant since 2013 while completely ignoring Genoa or Vasco de Gama, or the fact that Sevilla and Standard Liege have recently had their worst seasons in a long time just this part year. fans of other clubs have been beefing with that investment firm for a while now. and it's not like that was a bare-faced lie anyway, the deal is agreed in principle, it's literally just gotta get past the premier league lol |
Shemson
10.01.23 | Nonsense, every Evertonian was delighted to see the back of Gray and Iwobi and other than that the only player we lost of any relevance was Mina who has been replaced by Branthwaite who isn’t permanently injured.
Gray and Iwobi (and the awful Maupay) have been replaced by Beto, Harrison, Danjuma and Chermiti if you think that’s worse (let alone ‘so much worse’) I can only think you haven’t watched us play much.
On the 777 Partners thing you’re right the deal probably will go through.
I forgot about Genoa who were relegated and then promoted straight back up. Vasco were already relegated before 777 who then oversaw their promotion last season.
The only thing I care about to be honest is is staying up whilst we sort out our finances (positive net spend over the last three seasons now) and the beautiful new ground is finished and then we’ll be much more stable.
Moshiri has been absolutely awful at running the club and I’ll be glad to see him gone with the stadium sorted so he’ll have done one good thing for us. |
Deez
10.01.23 | thought youz loved Iwobi?? Zero to hero, did he go back to zero again? |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | Vasco are gonna go straight back down lol and their rivals are winning the league
fuck knows how Genoa will do, that bottom half of Serie A is garbo and anyones to lose |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | Ange is fine at spurs. |
Jasdevi087
10.01.23 | i don't think spurs have had a figure that's actually a positive presence in their community since Pochettino, just that alone's gotta be having a massive impact for them under Ange |
bellovddd
10.01.23 | coming from mouriniho and conte it must be a huge fucking relief lol |
rabidfish
10.02.23 | Just give the trophy to city already. That offside VAR ruling was a DISGRACE |
Jasdevi087
10.02.23 | "just give the trophy to city already"
this is obviously west ham's title to lose, come on now |
bellovddd
10.02.23 | if haaland gets injured, city are pretty much fucked but considering De Bruyne is also out. their depth is pretty shocking considering the team they do have |
Jasdevi087
10.02.23 | there is also no way in hell we're letting them get 4 in a row, i'd genuinely rather spurs won it |
bellovddd
10.02.23 | someones just gotta take the plunge and cop a massive ban by taking out haaland. its the only way anyone else is going to have a chance |
Jasdevi087
10.02.23 | does Roy Keane have a son? |
bellovddd
10.02.23 | lol that dude really needs to just chill the fuck out. even in commentary he is so damn angry. |
Jasdevi087
10.02.23 | absolutely wild that he would assume I want to hear anything he has to say lol |
Shemson
10.02.23 | ‘thought youz loved Iwobi?’
What made you think that mate, he was slagged almost his entire time with us by 90% of Evertonians apart from a couple months under Lampard where he moved central and looked to have improved but it didn’t last. Slowed down every attack, terrible goals return and gave away the ball in dangerous positions so often he was a liability, couldn’t believe we got real money for him, I’d have Harrison, McNeil, Danjuma or even out of position James Garner on the right over him all day long. |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | problem with spurs at the minute is poor depth (though when bentancur comes back our midfield is EATING EATING)
but the goal for the start of the season was always show progress with the expectation of teething pains. i think most spurs would still be happy with an eventual top 6 finish given how early in Ange's tenure (and how bad we looked last season) it is. the 'spurs fans think they are title contenders' stuff is nonsense lol
...
...
... but what if? |
bellovddd
10.02.23 | what if indeed. |
zakalwe
10.02.23 | @deez
Absolutely no chance, Lamela clearly acting the cheat there the dirty bastard. |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | ah i miss lamela
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Deez
10.02.23 | At least your consistent mate |
Deez
10.02.23 | What made you think that mate'
Thought hed turned it around, was being told how good hed become under Lampard, I know he dipped again last year but thought hed turned Blues minds about him. |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | pool claiming conspiracy is hilarious
liVARpool
^ these guys? |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | I've heard conflict reasons too:
refs are united fans, refs are paid to keep city winning
aren't they two conflicting agendas? |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | lamela's a shithouse, like how Salah's a bit of a diver (albeit a way better player) |
Jasdevi087
10.02.23 | all refs are bad
ARAB
fuck... wait |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | lol |
Egarran
10.02.23 | Conspiracy or incompetence, the discussion that gets us through life. Anyways those refs should be caned. |
Deez
10.02.23 | @Phero
Im gonna guess youve never spoke to a Liverpool fan outside twitter
No one thinks its a conspiracy,Wants a replay ,none of that shit
Its massive massive incompetence. Its not a marginal decision they got wrong. Its a massive fuck up that probably shows that the VAR officials arent watching the game as they should, if they couldnt see that was given offside, there was no celebration ffs and that effects every one. They also shouldnt be getting jetted off to a place that owns Man city, 3 days before a top of the table clash between 2 unbeaten teams or youre asking for those things to be levelled at you
Also by their own rules youre not to b shown a still on the monitor first you have to see it slow mo and real time. He was shown a still first (I think its a red) But theyre making it up as they go along. If youre one of my mates who pays 200 quid to get down to london, watch a good goal ruled out (a yard onside) VAR say its onside but don't communicate it properly and you dont get the goal (With 10 men) and 2 mins later Spurs score?? Everyone would be fuming , Its not a subjective decision that happens in footy its a horrendous fuck up.
And by their own rules because the free kick was taken they cant then go and call it a goal. Just stop the game and give the goal. The right decision is the only thing they should be worried about. And if that is their rule how the fk do Utd get a Pen at Brighton AFTER the final whistle?? Theyre not on a tenner a week any more they are Professional referees. There a massive VAR fuck up weekly at the minute, it takes the joy out of it. Every week talking about refs and VAR |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | > Im gonna guess youve never spoke to a Liverpool fan outside twitter
too many : (
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zakalwe
10.02.23 | https://x.com/monikergeller/status/1708916965836759115?s=48&t=k4OhJo2_yJfJR_f05yh6Rg |
bellovddd
10.02.23 | VAR is a joke correct. |
Deez
10.02.23 | Saw that about 15 mins ago so fking no chance |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | lmao zak |
zakalwe
10.02.23 | :D |
DoofDoof
10.02.23 | I fell out of love with the game a bit with that early handball bollocks when Liverpool won that CL final...have to say I've been primed to fall head over heels for Spurs again recently and yup, that VAR call and result is the best thing that's happened in football in close to five years |
Pheromone
10.02.23 | doof gets it |
DoofDoof
10.02.23 | Liverpool have embarrassed themselves so much last six months, all the Jurassic talking head club legends whipping up the fans by spouting absolute entitled clueless nonsense in the face of other teams daring to lure players ahead of them...yes, despite their standing and history, no one cares!
Now you have fans posting vids of abuse aimed at the refs, the club itself saying human error is a conspiracy and being vaguely threatening, and Klopp doing his 'I'm a nice guy' routine but actually leaning very hard on the aggressive side of passive aggressive.
People are laughing at Liverpool right now...cos it would be dangerous to take the club seriously.
Other way round and Spurs had the same exact fate it's have been labelled Spursy, about 300 instant memes, and totally forgotten by Sunday morning - instead we have 'should be a replay'. Fuck em.
On the Lasagnegate scale it's barely a caeser salad, you move on. |
Deez
10.02.23 | hahaha here he is, biggest fking wet wipe on this site youve just spouted a loads of nonesense (as you do)
' absolute entitled clueless nonsense in the face of other teams daring to lure players ahead of the'
Like what???? Not wanting your best player to go?? I dont get this. We let 3 players go and had no ill feelings. Where as you had people saying breaking a scoring record with Spurs would mean more than going to one of the Biggest teams in Europe and actually winning stuff and challanging for the EC hahah Sweet irony
'the club itself saying human error is a conspiracy '
No they didnt. Where?
'People are laughing at Liverpool right now'
Actually and strangely everyone is on our side, Mancs, chelsea, podcasters , ex pros. Its weird cos its happened to everyone at this point and every who can see past base tribalism knows theyre only around the corner from one themselves..Weve ghad a PMGOL statement and theyll be releasing the Audio, so yeah....more bollocks
'
Other way round and Spurs had the same exact fate it's have been labelled Spursy,'
And were the 'victims' right? And it wouldnt it would be called out for exactly what it is because this is gaining traction week after week. People have had enough. If it happened to Utd/Everton and hope they would push for answers cos it cant go on to that level of a mistake. Again just 3 weeks after weve also had a wrongful red rescinded that VAR didnt.
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that early handball bollocks when Liverpool won that CL final.'
Youve had 3 fking years to learn the rules at the time and still cry arsing about the most blatant pen in a final in about 30 years
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/explained-why-liverpools-penalty-against-spurs-in-the-champions-league-final-was-given/1fq8s0migqb0p1xj9wdnv0pqb0 |
Deez
10.02.23 | Youre defo one of them that thinks ManE kIckED iT aT hiS arm arent ya? |
DoofDoof
10.02.23 | It's a soft pen
This was a bad call - have the replay at one man down...they'll lose heavier nine times out of ten. It's just an absolute nonsense to have this disgusting reaction from the 'professional' club itself. It's an unprecedented reaction.
The fans everyone already knows about, every one in the media knows you have to pander to Liverpool fans because they have a thin skin and are absolutely militant.
But a PL club issuing that statement? Lunacy. Fuck em. |
DoofDoof
10.02.23 | Deez - sorry bloke, you have never been able to read
Not your players leaving...players outbidding or securing deals ahead of sainted Liverpool. The reaction was embarrassing.
I think a case of the more you type here the more you live up to the billing. I mean you immediately resorted to a personal angle, guilty, you're done. You're a grown man, why personally attack someone for criticising your football club. Cheerio.
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Deez
10.02.23 | Honesty what the fk are you going on about? NOBODY is asking for a replay. No one. Maybe some fella on a dial up internet in Kenya on Twitter. Theyre asking for the audio to be released because they gave onside and the ref gave offside. And to make sure it doesnt happen again at all on a pitch in the most watched league in the world.
'
'It's an unprecedented reaction.' Because it was an Unprecedented decision. Its not hard to work out. Its not a close call, a subjective decision. People paid good money couldnt see a flag go up, a player not celebrating,fans not celebrating, Spurs fans laughing on multiple tv screens that they are PAID to pay the closest of attention too.
Maybe if you had a bit of passion and militancy over the years youd be less of a laughing stock for the last half century. |
Deez
10.02.23 | Not your players leaving...players outbidding or securing deals ahead of sainted Liverpool'
Yeah you made that up too. The furore was around our owners making fools of themselves. Not Chelsea bidding more everyone I knew understood people wanting to go to London for an 8 year contract rather than Liverpool. So another load of shite there, as you do.
'I mean you immediately resorted to a personal angle, guilty, you're done. You're a grown man, why personally attack someone for criticising your football club. Cheerio.'
Awwww was footy man rude talking about football. Awwwww.
Personal attack - Wet wipe hahah yet absolutely 'Living up to the billing' yourself.
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DoofDoof
10.03.23 | well I hope in their crusade against human error Liverpool FC get the escalation and reparations they are seeking lol
I’m pretty sure the baying mob have stopped posting racial abuse of spurs players and videos of hate rhetoric aimed at match officials so I’m sure that statement will calm everything down and not inflate any feelings of divine righteousness held among supporters.
The first half of their statement covered the officiating and the ‘someone needs to lose their job’ stuff so what the other half that seems to be aimed at the league itself and governing bodies is supposed to achieve I don’t know, at best empty rhetoric to pay lip service to a renowned mentally fragile fanbase - at worst Liverpool want some form of compensation/reparation or some massive reform of officiating based on one incident? That’s deluded at best, otherwise sets a dangerous precedent. It’s garbage.
Numptys |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | All the other stuff you don’t want to hear I could support with links, it’s mainstream stuff, most made F365’s media watch for example.
My mate is Chelsea and he loathes online Liverpool fans, he has done for about 15 years now, and he forwards me stuff all the time.
Spurs don’t have a victim complex, more gallows humour if anything, when I said the world would have moved on so would Spurs, we have before. We didn’t say the game was in disrepute when the Mendes freak goal wasn’t given - hopefully it brought forward goal line tech a bit earlier, but the system was fallible and shit happens. The new system has been better but is still fallible, there’s VAR controversy most weeks, you unfortunately found another loophole of human error. Those responsible have apologised and are already starting the process of retraining and the like. Beyond that Liverpool FC can go spin. |
Shemson
10.03.23 | The problem with the premier league officiating including but not solely focusing on VAR is consistency of which there is none.
That offside call (and I say this as an Evertonian) was a disgrace, shocking that the team could mess something up so clear and obvious (the point of VAR).
I think the straight red was a red even though he wasn’t trying to hurt him it was a dangerous tackle that a professional footballer knows is risking a red if he commits to it. Son snapped Andre Gomes and ruined his career with a similar tackle even though he wasn’t trying to hurt him - it happens but it’s a red imo. The problem is when you see players get away with that under the watchful eye of the same team of referees and VAR - how can it be a red one week and not the next?
At the start of the season we were seeing 10+ mins added on and players (especially keepers) booked for time wasting and I welcomed it tbh. Then I just sat at Goodison Park in the rain on Saturday watching the worst shithouse tactics I’ve ever seen as Luton held on to their one goal lead. Every time the ball went out of play a player went down with injury and the physio came on. Every goal kick took over a minute, he even moved the ball once after wasting 20 seconds and the keeper wasn’t booked. There was one booking for time wasting when a player went to take a throw wasted a minute and gave it to someone else but nothing when the same player time wasted repeatedly the rest of the game. Then only 7 minutes added on when it could have been 20 on week 1.
Consistency |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | The reason I compared to the Mendes goal is because this also feels like a freak incident - VARs been going ages and this has never happened in the PL before.
You shouldn’t get disproportionate reform or compensation for a ‘freak incident’. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | Look, when the second most toady and boring man in English football after Southgate, Gary Neville, is saying a statement is misguided, threatening and dangerous for the game then you know there’s blood in the water. Awful awful day for Liverpool FC, they could have had sympathy, thanks to the reaction of the club and many of the fans they deserve none. They now deserve contempt, an all too predictable shitshow |
Deez
10.03.23 | No ones after 'Compensation' you absolute egghead. They want to hear the audio and how thats come to be a decision (At first they said it hadnt even gone to VAR) Why can Gary Neville hear what theyre saying but Liverpool Football club cant. For a cliub thats lost the league by a point twice they have every right to follow it through. Why are YOU cry arseing? It would only benefit everyone. If the protocol gets changed to when it happens again, IF it happened again then they should be able to award the goal after the game starts again. Like they already did in the world cup and like they did for Untited AFTER the final whistle then good for everyone not just Liverpool, The fact your mad little hard on for Liverpool wont let you see that is hilarious. The only decision that matters is getting it right. With standard fouls.reds etc you'll always have debate. Stuff that happened saturday cant happen again to anyone.
'I’m pretty sure the baying mob have stopped posting racial abuse of spurs players and videos of hate rhetoric aimed at match officials'
If you base your whole view on fans on Social media youre a bigger d1ckhead than I thought you were. You know who else hate our online fans? ME. They do my fking head in, never been a game in their lives and sit and talk shit about Scousers when theyre with their mates in a pub in Norfolk talking about how great the tories are. 'Hate rhetoric' hahaha Honestly...the biggest of wet wipes.
'We didn’t say the game was in disrepute when the Mendes freak goal wasn’t given'
You didnt have 4 men sat in a caravan watching it and still fail to see it was over then the ref ask 'Was I right' and they all say 'Yeah'
'Wait not yeah..No'
'Ah too late now we kicked off'
'Those responsible have apologised '
Cool, Link me to where someone apoligised. Ill wait |
Deez
10.03.23 | 'REFEREES AND VAR NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE'
Liverpool try and make them accountable
"FKING SCOUSERS!' |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | A mistake happens - ‘the games entire integrity is at risk’
So helpful |
Deez
10.03.23 | I agree @Shem. Seen loads defend the first red but if it was the other way around Id want that all day. He was unlucky to bounce off the ball but you cant end up there. The first yellow was a farce but once your on one if you dive in youre a fking idiot.
Yeah Ive noticed they seem to have suddenly toned down the added on time. Just like the 'Waving Imaginary card' weve had 3 booked already, Bissoma did it when fouled by Jota, nothing. Gordon did it, Nothing. Just dont make these rules if youre not gonna stick to them and be consistent with it. |
Deez
10.03.23 | 'mistakes happen'
Referre says he didnt call a VAR decision because he felt sorry for his mate just a few weeks ago.
Now youve got refs reffing in Dubai 2 days before the biggest match of the weekend and failing to spot something that the whole world could see on their TVs. TV didnt even mention it until a few seconds before 2nd half. Managers cant say anything or be fines. Theyre becoming te Mafia. If PGMOL is not fit for purpose. bin it. Mistakes CAN happen, mistakes like saturdays should not happen with VAR, Ever. Its a chain of mistakes and then having to follow protocol rather than common sense. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | Technology has reduced the number of goal line mistakes, offsides, the injury time thing has already been a bit better.
There’s more an argument scrap most of it and there’s an understanding referees will make mistakes.
Or you take the statistics that tech has improved these things (whether it’s improved the flow and spectacle of football is less certain) and you keep refining it. |
Deez
10.03.23 | 'And you keep refining it'
And how do you refine it if you just apoligise and don't fix anything?
To refine it there has to be accountability about what went wrong.
The one thing that was universally agreed was offside is offside, The lines are right. A MM or a toe nail its off, Now this. Find out what happened. Fix it, Make sure it doesn't happen again. Its not that hard. Just saying 'Ahh well move on' Doesnt help refine anything. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | They said a mistake was made, officially, no one is denying that
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take a lot of digging to find that it's in writing that they have to review all mistakes, especially high profile ones where they have come out and admitted a mistake was made.
I think what's being asked for in the first half of that statement is transparency and perhaps a deeper level of enquiry this time.
What the second half of the statement is after no one knows - maybe the league to completely reconsider the way the season is going to be officiated right away? Some acknowledgment there has to be an 'evening out' of this somehow? Nothing at all helpful anyway. 'Special case' basically. |
Deez
10.03.23 | https://twitter.com/HarrySymeou/status/1708916336607322216?t=L03AIHHw1gdfPn7qhDvbgA&s=19
What he said |
Shemson
10.03.23 | ‘Just dont make these rules if youre not gonna stick to them and be consistent with it.’
Yeah Deez that’s all we want as fans
I don’t like how soft the rules are nowadays but if they were all enforced consistently I wouldn’t have to complain because rules are rules
Our disallowed goal in the first game involved Tarkowski standing still in the box and Fulham’s keeper throwing himself over the top of him like a madman and claiming he was fouled. How that can be given as a foul when two days later Onana absolutely wiped out a Wolves player in the same place of the box and nothing was given just makes no sense. See also the penalty Pickford gave away against Villa and compare that to Onana against Wolves, it’s just laughable really that a team of highly paid professionals can look at clips with as much time as they choose to take and still get such obvious calls wrong. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | brace yourself, this is the majority opinion not the one you posted (which has merit but it's not the fact VAR should be improved that people are taking umbridge with anyway...):
https://www.football365.com/news/sympathy-liverpool-huge-limitless-sporting-integrity-statement-absurd |
Deez
10.03.23 | That's another thing that needs to go 'clear and onvious' an absolute nothing phrase
Yeah the Fulham game was the one I was thinking of. Terrible decision |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | that's the 'thoughtful, brain engaged, non emotional majority opinion' on the Liverpool statement and surrounding fan furore. |
Deez
10.03.23 | Hahah I stopped reading f365 years ago, absolute shite peddling click baiters with even worse commentators, makes sputnik look like Jon Hopkins but I did read that yesterday and It was more utter shite as expected,a whole paragraph about a replay no one has asked for or wants too. Yeah soz you're one journos feelings on F365 doesn't mean it's 'the majority's how exactly do you gauge that? Have you got a clicker?? Not from what I've read/seen. Usual little tribal, cant-see-the-woods-for-the-trees types but I don't really care what 'the majority ' think tbh, Im glad the club are calling these out, Someone needs to.
Look at your Gary Neville he said that decision now brings into question every other close decision. Isn't that doing the same? Questioning the integrity? He strangely then went 180 after that statement. Weird. Sky didn't even discuss the offside until the last couple of seconds of half time, once the kick off was obvious they piled in.
'exploring options' to me means exactly that, see it how you want. That's exactly what they should be doing (as in asking for the audio to see how the hell it happened)
Still waiting for that apology you said they'd given us too Doof.
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Deez
10.03.23 | 'that's the 'thoughtful, brain engaged, non emotional majority opinion' on the Liverpool statement and surrounding fan furore.'
No its one journo |
Deez
10.03.23 | can easy go tit for tat on that one |
Deez
10.03.23 | Even fking Goldbridge is on our side haha
https://twitter.com/NoContextMarkG/status/1708839848172245292?t=CUcl93_JqxgFz0wUYQdwag&s=19 |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | but to claim integrity is compromised is to state there was an intentional bias against LFC - that's pretty fucked up to come from a club statement no? isn't that a bit liable to whip un the fanbase further and put officials of future Liverpool games under even more pressure (essentially, there's your future bias)
NASA mission control has a load of people in essentially a fancy caravan looking at screens who's main job is to stop the shuttle exploding but it is a complex thing with multiple parts...a PL football match isn't that complicated but it's still got a few moving parts and the dream of an infallible refereeing system has shown flaws countless times now has still struggled with that. A few people fucked up majorly, but the fact it's 'people' rather than tech at fault says everything - at heart you still have people capable of making that 1 in 10,000 chance mistake of this magnitude. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | 'Even fking Goldbridge is on our side haha'
his logic didn't hold, Neville had sympathy UNTIL the statement was released...and the statement is what changed his mind in terms of sympathy, because it was an idiotic statement from a PL club.
nonsense waffle from that chap. |
Deez
10.03.23 | Where did they say that?
'The integrity of the game undermined' which is exactly what it was. |
Deez
10.03.23 | but the fact it's 'people' rather than tech at fault says everything '
Actually its stupid fking protocols too with 'Check complete' and not allowing a goal after a games restarted. Just say 'CHECK COMPLETE ITS OFFSIDE' 'CHECK COMPLETE ITS ONSIDE' whatever.
All things that can be addressing WITH accountibilty and Transparency but not by half arsed apologies when its another massive enough cock up. 'Clear and obvious'?? what???
No one asking to bin VAR itself, Its to hold those PROFESSIONALS to account when its this bad, When VVD was given an extra game for swearing at the ref a few weeks ago they had the audio within a day
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DoofDoof
10.03.23 | Integrity is about 'fairness', if there was no intentional bias then 'fairness' doesn't come into it - it was poor luck it affected one team rather than the other
Both teams were equally likely to suffer from poor officiating - it wasn't because a team was favoured
It may have looked so bad it could have made someone believe the game was unfair - but to then effectively say it calls into question actual integrity of the league is not a great road to go down. It's inflammatory at the very least.
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Deez
10.03.23 | 'Former referee Mike Dean has said he decided not to alert a fellow official to a missed call via the VAR system during last season's fiery Premier League match between Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur because he wanted to spare him "more grief"'
'Former EPL Ref Mark Halsey Says He Was Told to Say He Missed in-Match Incidents. Mark Halsey, who refereed in the Premier League for 14 years, has stated he was told to say he hadn't seen incidents that had occurred during games.'
'Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL’s admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.'
Youre angry at the wrong thing and youre reading whats not there because of your hard on for Liverpool. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | I feel mostly talked out with this but for sure, if it was spurs on the end of this decision I'd be royally pissed off for a while, but if Spurs released a club statement like that I'd put it down as another example of unprofessional idiocy from them.
'to hold those PROFESSIONALS to account when its this bad' - I find it very hard to believe they won't be held to account, as stated before I'm sure it's on paper somewhere what happens in this sort of case, I don't believe Liverpool's statement will change that, heads will already roll, processes will be changed etc |
Deez
10.03.23 | I feel mostly talked out with this but for sure, if it was spurs on the end of this decision I'd be royally pissed off for a while, but if Spurs released a club statement like that I'd put it down as another example of unprofessional idiocy from them.'
of course you would |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | Have I ever said a positive thing about the owners of Spurs?
Vaguely calling 'corruption' is the lowest imo |
Egarran
10.03.23 | We must admit Deez is correct about everything here. |
Pheromone
10.03.23 | anyone like david squires? his recent was good n funny |
Demon of the Fall
10.03.23 | It's farcical at this point, refereeing standards are abysmal and making a mockery of the league, yet the systems put in place to help them get things right are being applied in a haphazard 'when we feel like it' manner, leading to even more inconsistency. The refs would rather be wrong and protect each other, than arrive at the right decision. There's zero accountability. The current system is actually making it easier for them to 'fix' results, if that's what you choose to believe is happening. They don't get paid all that much apparently, so honestly it isn't unbelievable to think the 'brand' could be enhanced by making games / title chase closer etc. and that refs are encouraged to make certain decisions
Maybe now media darlings Liverpool are on the receiving end, there might be something done about it at last |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | 'the current system is actually making it easier for them to 'fix' results, if that's what you choose to believe is happening.'
if anyone chooses to believe that then for their own sanity they need to stop watching any high level football - so that makes that an empty statement really, another 'vague corruption' thing, not for me Jeff
'refereeing standards are abysmal and making a mockery of the league'
stats on the percentage of correct offside calls now and 20 years ago would be interesting, I'd be very surprised if they haven't gone up
the long stretches of decision making time are painful and the 'premature ejaculation' celebrations that come before a disallowed goal are a buzzkill too...but I imagine the stats do support things are moving in the right direction in terms of absolute 'fairness'
"not quick enough!" ...maybe |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | the father in law is a Liverpool fan but had a knee op last weekend so haven't seen him since to get his interpretation of it all - that's divine intervention right there, phew |
zakalwe
10.03.23 | My Dad is as well.
Born in Southend in 1955 so a proper glory supporter but what can ya do. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | haha, yeah, same scenario with the father in law here
he's a tradey and a bit of a bantersaurus, such a wind up merchant, I've watched about twenty Spurs games at his place and don't think we've won a single one
went to Spurs vs Liverpool with him and the missus and we got schooled in that match, he loved that! |
zakalwe
10.03.23 | The old boys are the best for footy banter.
A mates Dad who’s in his 70s now but still an absolute geezer, one of the biggest characters of all time and thankfully a Spurs fan. Absolute pleasure to hear him rinse it out of Arsenal, West Ham and Chelsea fans. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | That result was a cherry on top moment, was classic.
Away with the lads in Dublin as two of the group are turning 50 this month - originally was going to skip the game but the weather was shite so watched first half in the hotel bar but we had to move on to meet the others in an area a bit outside the city centre. We left about 15 minutes into the second half, got a cab and jumped out into the nearest pub we could find near the curry house we were meeting at later.
Proper locals pub, loads of people standing noticing us walk in, mostly full, a few seats available but old school leather panel sort of ones against the wall. I could only get this one more in the walkway next to this burly bloke with a beard. Sitting there and he’s fired up Liverpool, it’s injury time, I start the ol’ c’mon fucks sake spurs. Mate gets me a pint, take a few glugs. Three minutes later the goal goes in and I’m celebrating big time. Burly doesn’t miss a beat and he’s off bogwards bound.
Later I ask the boys what my celebration was like - ‘looked like you were exorcising some sort of demon’. Walk in a pub like that to exorcising demon celebration in about 7 minutes. It was beautiful, like poetry. Skip in my step rest of the night. |
Pheromone
10.03.23 | https://www.premierleague.com/news/3718057?sf269410963=1
paint me surprised they were just incredibly incompetent |
Deez
10.03.23 | the current system is actually making it easier for them to 'fix' results, if that's what you choose to believe is happening.'
'if anyone chooses to believe that then for their own sanity they need to stop watching any high level football '
Barcelona getting done for match fixing, Italy rife with it, Top teams relegated because of it. Its amazing how you can be so consistently wrong.
England though?? Nahhhh never not good ol queen and country. Every part of this countries corrupt why wouldnt/couldnt football be. I dont think saturday is an example of that but to think that it couldn't happen here is laughably naive. Players betting on themselves and there teams to lose too.
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Faraudo
10.03.23 | Rodri merchants could hopefully let this one slip (I'm an Arsenal fan so I need this to happen). |
Deez
10.03.23 | https://www.premierleague.com/news/3718057?sf269410963=1
paint me surprised they were just incredibly incompetent'
And that last bit is what needs to change. 'I cant do anything about it'
There was a perfectly valid goal scored. Its not like 10 minutes had passed, Stop the game give the gola. The games about goals. They could have stopped there gave the goal and be getting far less shit for breaking protocol than they are now for being utter bell ends. So if anything good comes from it that protocol needs changing. Also the language they use to communicate. ;Check Complete its a goal' would have sorted it. |
Deez
10.03.23 | stats on the percentage of correct offside calls now and 20 years ago would be interesting, I'd be very surprised if they haven't gone up'
Of course they have, Because of the technology , Not because of the refs. Its not VAR the tech, its the balloons not using it properly. Rugby use it perfectly, Spain and Italy have FAR less incidents like we have (although still have them) because they have better officials. |
Deez
10.03.23 | 'Absolute pleasure to hear him rinse it out of Arsenal, West Ham and Chelsea fans.'
Dont trigger Doofy Zak he doesnt like people saying bad words about the football |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | the clubs unanimously voted for human review on top of VAR rather than just let the tech roll like in the World Cup apparently - humans derp
the call for a delay came too late, should have slowed it all down, it's funny the 'shits' as it ran away from them lol
anyone remember the beach ball goal? sorry that still seems way more insane and incompetent than this and now is branded on the PL site as 'an iconic moment' - this tape'll be a legend of shits and giggles in 15 years time, guaranteed |
Deez
10.03.23 | the clubs unanimously voted for human review on top of VAR rather than just let the tech roll like in the World Cup apparently - humans derp'
wonder why!?
'the call for a delay came too late, '
But United got a pen AFTER the final whistle. Everyone already knows they can't call it back after the game restarts , thats the part that needs changing and any normal person or any club would agree.
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DoofDoof
10.03.23 | 'wonder why!?'
another conspiracy? I can't take too many more |
Deez
10.03.23 | anyone remember the beach ball goal? sorry that still seems way more insane and incompetent '
You cant believe half the stuff that comes out your mouth Doof surely? Do you type with a pencil stuck to your head? The beach ball was thrown on the pitch by our fan, ricocheted and went it. Id laugh too if it wasnt us. 'Incompetent'??? though??
A beach ball thrown on a pitch is more Incompentent than a VAR team calling a goal onisde and failing to communicate that to the onfield ref thinking hed also gave onside cos it was that clear? You cannot honestly believe that. It's the completely wrong word. |
DoofDoof
10.03.23 | you don't think the ref should have stopped play with a beach ball near a goal mouth for about two minutes? |
Deez
10.03.23 | yeah maybe, but also reina was stood right next to it, usually if a ball comes on someone kicks it off, Was windy as fuck too , greggs packets on the pitch and shit. The fk up was allowing it when it shouldnt have been tbh but yeah. Even the sky sports team thought it was a deflection until the replay. No VAR, no statement, no calls for anything because that indeed WAS just a random, one of those things and indeed you do 'Move on'. VAR was suppose to cut those things out. People aren't saying this is the worst Mistake in the leagues history theyre saying its the worst in the Prem since VARS inception (along with the Villa/Sheff United goal). The fact you can't seem to get your head around the difference between blatant mistakes with and without 4 extra officials and a room of monitors is to make that decision is mental. Strawman whataboutisms. The Mendes one was worse, but there was no VAR. If that Mendes one had happened PLUS there was a room full of paid officials who told the ref it was over and he then stuck with the decision that it was over there would be the exact same questions asked about them being fit for purpose.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx8r1wRtuW1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Neil nails it, and exactly what Shem said about consistency of their every changing bars for certain offences.
Unfortunately docked 2 opints for the shirt and wallpaper |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | Deez, it’s not NASA Mission Control but it’s still a thing with moving parts. Maybe they should just go all tech on offside next season - thing is clubs (and fans?) like a human face to blame (and influence if we go down the conspiracy route which personally I feel is a dead end).
An offside call might not be as ridiculous AS SCORING OFF A BEACH BALL - but now with the release of the audio it’s at least as funny, so we can all thank LFC for speeding that up.
This cock up was always going to be reviewed, I still think the statement was mainly lip service for the fanbase. The wording was nonsense and unnecessary, the end. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | Anyway, Man U losing again - this season has real potential to be a fun one |
Deez
10.04.23 | They absolutely should use the tech. I read they said no as they thought it would become outdated too soon. That's ridiculous. I don't buy the conspiracy thing, especially in this one incident but youve got referees telling you that they where told to make certain decisions, refs saying they wanted to give their mates a break, you've got footballers betting against there own teams. Other leagues rife with it. If you think it's impossible that it goes on at all in our league, with all that , not to mention the team winning everything has 115 charges hanging over them and no push to get it resolved asap as they continue to sweep up, well.....you're naive, at best.
The PGMOL have now put another statement out saying they're going to amend the language used when confirming an offside amongst other things. That's what matters at the end of it. Not how it gets there absolutely no one wanted a replay or points but the more pressure put on by the club and the media as it has been the better. If it's lip service to the fans, I don't care. I wanna here my clubs not about to roll over just because every other club does. Were not here to Stop accepting hollow apologies as the norm when nothing changes. These changes are already better for everyone in the league IF they're implemented properly. They'll always be mistakes, the one thing we'd all agreed is that offside was offside by the lines until this weekend.
Yeah we can all get behind United getting smacked every week though at least. I'd rather see spurs up there any day of the week. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | Yeah the fact remains the Liverpool team were very hard done by in that game of that there is no doubt and they performed very very well.
I’m not totally a believer one result like this decides the ultimate winners of the league or such at this stage - the amount of points teams have at varying times accounts for various pressures felt by teams which in turn changes performances - I don’t think it’s as linear as ‘we missed out on the title by 2pts…that’s all down to that one thing that happened in September!’ but hopefully that doesn’t pan out because that will be a tiring argument.
United are a team in pain and honestly it’s been like that pretty much since Fergie left and that’s a long time, can’t think of a worse team to support in this era really, absolute shambles. |
Deez
10.04.23 | On all of that I completely agree with.
You can't change one outcome without changing the whole. They give the goal it might have kicked spurs up the arse and they go on to win anyway. We could have won 3-0 who knows it's a completely different set of circumstances. Same with the Rodri handball, a ludicrous decision but Everton might have missed the pen. Even if they score mindsets change, tactics change. It's not that simple.
I'm very happy even in defeat with the fight we showed and have done every time we've lost men but I'd rather stop losing them obviously. And away from everything I was really looking forward to that game. Obviously you boys don't care ,you won but I wanted to see where both teams where at and I thought it was at a high level game before the sending off and still was in a different way until the second. But it is what it is. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | If Liverpool play well the rest of the season and don't let a thing like this define their season and relationship with the officiating of their games then fair play tbh (the only circumstance it would be ok to dredge this up again is if Liverpool or indeed another team suffer a decision this mental) - it's the sort of thing where you want parties to believe there's been a resolution and then all move on.
I think that first statement now means we require another stating that Liverpool are now satisfied it was taken seriously enough and understand that's the end of it, there is no need for a deeper level of reform or debate about this mid season, it has now been handled for now. It was genuinely a human error that betrayed some really shoddy processes behind the scenes - that itself should not be enough to call into question the integrity of the whole system, more there's a (bigger than anyone expected) weakness in the system.
You don't want a question lingering over whether Liverpool (or anyone else) feel the 'league is broken' somehow while we're in the middle of it. If big enough changes can't happen mid season then that stance isn't helpful, especially in terms of officiating.
I'd still put the incident in the 'freak event' category but sure it shouldn't ever happen again - for what it's worth I don't think this exact type of mistake ever will in the PL now. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | I will wind back my vitriol towards LFC's statement in that I think they were more claiming the 'structural integrity' of the league was at stake rather than the 'moral integrity' - they're related but one is worse to question.
Still not helpful in that saying the league perhaps shouldn't trust the officiating is competent enough to have a 'working sporting league' when the season has just kicked off based primarily on one instance (yes - a very bad instance, and yes there's been other poor officiating already) but a lot better than calling into question the 'fairness' of decisions like this. |
Pheromone
10.04.23 | https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1709546279250923929?s=20
Deez: no one wants a replay
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DoofDoof
10.04.23 | Oh boy. Levy might want the extra gate receipts I guess ;P
You see the instant reaction to 'this incident' and 'it being Liverpool' was "this will run and run and run...and run and run and run..." but I was starting to think that was an unfair instinctive reaction (that a lot of people had including myself).
If Klopp is still banging on about this in the season run in it'll be a joke - yes it shows the system is shit but it's one call on one goal in one game and as stated before the whole league will now change with different pressures as points go one way or another in a 'butterfly effect' (the league would pan out differently (and immediately) in so many ways if Liverpool had taken points in this game).
If this result came with ten left to go then that's a bit different. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | The level of incompetence is what stands out with this one, the actual impact of the mistake is exactly the same as one's experienced by other sides every week (a goal or penalty not being given) |
Deez
10.04.23 | Yeah I've seen it already, he's not 'calling for a replay ' though is he?? As they love to do with him they've taken it out of context and he should know better tbh. e's said he believes the right thing WOULD have been a replay OR as he says ' If it happens again he allowed to bring the managers together , apologise and say we messed up and give a goal'
KLOPP DEMANDS REPLAY but he said not gonna happen
Either way he should stfu now. Why should Spurs have to replay? Wasn't their mistake. Embarrassed himself there Klopp cos not a single person I know , match going reds actually wants a replay..it it pisses all the twitter beauts off though I'm all for it (the piss boiling not the replay)
https://twitter.com/NFOLFC_13/status/1709547491354391020?t=iEadG_z5fzcx9sETo_ei8w&s=19 |
Deez
10.04.23 |
'If this result came with ten left to go then that's a bit different.'
Also we had 10 men, Theres plenty who think it was a red and loads who dont. So what do you do there? Start with 10 men and play 60 minutes. Just nonesense. He said 'If just as a football fan and If I wasnt manager of Liverpool the right thing to do would be a replay' So I think he believes that should be the solution in an ideal world but 'It probably wont happen'
Small matter is he IS the manager of Liverpool FC. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | Deez I think it's a relief this mistake happened this side of the season when you have a chance to have any sort of season going forward - if this result had a direct impact on what Liverpool could achieve then I think there would have been a genuine push for a replay I really do.
If Klopp is a 'one and done' with this statement then again, sort of fair enough, not brilliant but it's a 'just my opinion' sort of statement (not a demand etc) but if he keeps on about it and references it with other less extreme but still bad officiating throughout the season it will become tedious very quick.
He himself said it was 'a one in 50 years event' so if it's that unique it goes in its own box. |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | ''If this result came with ten left to go then that's a bit different.''
I meant ten games of the season left, wasn't clear there |
Deez
10.04.23 | Completely agree man. Use it to fuel the rest of the season I'm the players, make the feel hard done to, underdogsr />
Imagine being granted a replay going down there and losing hahah. Just get on with it now. He gave his opinion like they wanted and I don't really blame him. You work all week get ready for a match like that and get a good goal given but them not corresponding to the referee that. I get the frustration. And I hope this isn't a precursor for the club actually asking for one either. Got a game tonight and Brighton away at the weekend. This indeed should be the time to 'move on' |
DoofDoof
10.04.23 | I can't imagine the frustration with this stuff if you're actually a player or manager, dunno how you sleep after that
yup, a replay and you end up with worse GD would be a bad one |
Faraudo
10.04.23 | Rodri goes back to the side and they win again, what a surprise |
Deez
10.05.23 | Hes probably become their most important player with KDB which is mad considering theres a fella who scores 40odd goals |
Faraudo
10.05.23 | I just don't want them to win everything again, the league slipped right out of our hands and it's sad because we're in a good place atm, but we'll just have to see how this one goes. Pool is playing some great footy as well |
Deez
10.05.23 | I dont want them to win anything ever again the fking cheats, absolute farce theyre not being pushed to answer these charges. Everyone else has to play by the rules while they financially dope their own history. |
DoofDoof
10.05.23 | They crashed the party last minute did City.
That hurt all the big clubs but Spurs were pushed back down to fifth par instead of fourth par basically.
We still qualified for CL a few times but it certainly made it twice as difficult. Plus we were their bogey team and then suddenly that team have a billion of investment in a couple of seasons…by bending and breaking every financial rule going.
It’s mostly history now though really, they have the luxury of being ‘squeaky clean’ under Pep, but the timing of them getting a foot in the door was particularly terrible for Spurs but quite terrible for all the pre existing top 4 or 5 |
DoofDoof
10.05.23 | Newcastle are doing it within FFP (hence they missed out on Maddison for one) but if you disregard however ‘dirty’ the money is they’re using you have to admit other than that they’re doing nothing wrong. |
Deez
10.05.23 | They already should be banned from Europe they just have the best lawyers to push every case back until the statute of limitations run out, the fact they think that was a bit guilty is hilarious. And Pep saying 'we were found not guilty' and such, where they fuck. That banner they had with a fking lawyer on who's battling these charges says everything about then ,Absolute fking helmets to a man. Sponsorships with places that don't even exist, madness. And now the Government saying they've discussed it but won't say what was said as it will effect relationships in the middle east. Just Sickening.
Considering what they will spend and how much I hate the Saudi love in at Newcastle they have indeed spent really well and withing limits and seeing Burn and Longstaff score for them last night was great even though I wanted them humped.
I know it's banter to say Klopp should have more even though he's competing against a team just flagrantly breaking the rules but losing to them twice by a point stings. If it wasn't for those cheats we'd have another 2 titles be centurions, won a EC and League double. We had literally one of our best teams ever. Seeing everyone say 'save football's to City rather than us win the league shows how thick the average footy fan is but most won't realise until it's too late, if it isn't already. |
Deez
10.05.23 | I did see an interesting thing about American owners now though that's gone under the radar. I think there's 6 or 8 and that's just as big of a problem. As soon as there's enough to have the majority vote in the league we'll be playing opening games in New York or some shit or no relegation or some other wild US sport like stuff. |
Deez
10.05.23 | 10 it is'
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37635430/could-american-owners-bring-nfl-cost-controls-premier-league |
Shemson
10.05.23 | To Doofs point I like everything that Newcastle are doing (Howe is doing incredible things especially elevating players that were already there) EXCEPT for the fact they’re owned by people who sanction beheadings and imprison gays which is a pretty big fucking problem for me so I hope they fail miserably but unfortunately they’re being very smart and getting all the right people in |
DoofDoof
10.05.23 | concerning potential American majority rulings in the league:
is 'no relegation' the most fun they could come up with?
penalties shoot out for every tied game...after a period of extra time multi ball naturally |
DoofDoof
10.05.23 | I don't like where a lot of the money in football comes from but the Middle East, Russia, etc will make hypocrites of us all - you are only ever three or less steps removed from giving your own money out of choice to these sort of places/corporations
I too think the Newcastle ownership is pretty in your face flagrant but also it is hard to speak from a guilt free position.
The players going there are also being hypocrites in a lot of ways but also I do understand to some extent the job is the job and it is maybe more progressive to go this route in the hope change is more likely to happen than otherwise :/ |
Piglet
10.05.23 | i miss living in germany and defiling beers and packets of chips with mates, just letting champions league nights wash over you week after week. it really is this kind of modern jousting war between european cities, except instead of horses and spears its big footed blokes and round balls. fucken living in australia you just wake up blearily to this shitty breadcrumb trail of out of sync highlights, completely isolated from the whole european yobbo zeitgeist |
Deez
10.05.23 | EXCEPT for the fact they’re owned by people who sanction beheadings and imprison gays which is a pretty big fucking problem for me so I hope they fail miserably'
Absolutely me too, I always said the 2 biggest problems Id have would be a Saudi or and Israeli take over. I remember the Saudis were flirting with Utd and 2 mates where absolutely gutted (from Manc). Its the rocking up with Saudi gear on and such just embracing the sportswashing, I get the 'What the fk can I do?' kind of stance but when you see vids of them abusing Anti Saudi protester and just gettting the bellys tickled by that Regime its really really grim BUT id almost prefer that to City who STILL play the plucky underdog card and say that despite their owner being part of the ruling family of Abu Dhabi and deputy prime minister of the UAE theyre not state owned. Gtf |
Deez
10.05.23 | @pig The year we won the CL in 2005 I was working in Oz and having to get up at daft o clock on your own watching massive games, was shit.
Germanys footy culture is great, Fnas are still involved in the clubs and atmosphere is superb. Proper footy apart from the obvious 1 team domination which, lets face it, were not far away from here either, |
Pheromone
10.06.23 | man united is the great constant these days
shit, almost good, and then shit again...
lovely |
rabidfish
10.08.23 | Ok just give the title to city already. Clear expulsion TWICE by Kovacic. Clearly being helped out by the ref. |
Deez
10.08.23 | Honestly compare those 2 yellows to Jotas last week. They're a fking farce.
Michael Oliver another member of the little trip to Dubai group. All people want is consistency ffs
.first was probably a red, no doubting 2 yellows. If City went on to win there...... |
Jasdevi087
10.08.23 | yeah that was kinda wild tbh, that first yellow was 110% a red card, went in from behind, studs up, didn't get the ball. the second one was definitely at least a yellow as well, but he stayed on the pitch |
Egarran
10.08.23 | Boomers will tell you it's just incompetence. |
bellovddd
10.08.23 | spurs are looking pretty at the top aren't they :) |
Deez
10.08.23 | deserved, best team so far |
Jasdevi087
10.09.23 | I wish all spurs a very pleasant lose the title to arsenal on the final day |
zakalwe
10.09.23 | Bloody unbelievable we are top of the league after 8 games.
Van De Ven is quality
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bellovddd
10.09.23 | if we stay injury free who knows what can happen. |
Pheromone
10.09.23 | Van De Ven is incredible and, crucially, he's a very handsome bloke |
bellovddd
10.09.23 | he is only going to get better as well. |
Pheromone
10.09.23 | more handsome ?! |
bellovddd
10.09.23 | both. |
DoofDoof
10.09.23 | Chelsea vs Arsenal will be an interesting one next game week.
Everyone know ‘spursy’ but for me ‘arsy’ has been the way Arsenal throw three competitions in four or five consecutive games, so think Arsenal are due one of those seasons |
Deez
10.09.23 | if we stay injury free who knows what can happen.'
No chance
Best year to probably win a trophy and with City going out the C cup too
Still a few players away from a proper challenge |
Deez
10.09.23 | City have lost 2 already and still only 1 point behind, They dont draw many, its the draws that hill you. They can go on a 10 game win stream and lose 2 and the closes to them wins 8 and draws 4. As is seen by us lising just 1 and 2 games and not winning the league |
DoofDoof
10.09.23 | Spurs can possibly get top four if some of the non contributors so far (for whatever reason) now get going (Bentancur, Gil, Lo Celso, Richarlison, Johnson, etc) and we get another central defender and a goal getter in January. Those are big ‘ifs’ though.
Winning the league? Zero chance.
Ange has surprised me, eating some humble pie…but we don’t even know how his side react to a defeat yet. Maddison is fragile as fuck, so Bentancur coming back could be huge as imo he’s the most natural cover for him in the squad rather than Johnson or GLC. |
Faraudo
10.09.23 | What happened with Kovacic was absolute madness, and what saddens me the most is that the FA is not even hiding their blatant corruption anymore. We could've scored more if they had 10 men, especially considering that they didn't had many midfielders available for the match. |
DoofDoof
10.09.23 | Also Brighton vs Liverpool was a much more enjoyable and easy on the eye watch than Ars vs City |
Deez
10.09.23 | theyll defo be top 4 for me (5 CL this year also remember) unless they get a horrendous injury crisis but still think theyll be loads of ups and downs, at least its fun again, reminds of first season and half with Klopp, some wild games but knew he was the man and could just see eventually what was the goal.
I think were exactly the same this season. We need a DM and hes not been playing Endo so wether thats cos hes not good enough or hes taking a while as happens and klopp doesnt rush them in I dunno. Hopefully the link with Andre was true and we get him in January. If we can stay withing a few points and bring a DM in weve shown multiple times we can go on a long unbeaten run.
Brighton were better for 70 mins of that game yesterday tho |
Deez
10.09.23 | What happened with Kovacic was absolute madness'
Theyre a fking joke, miles worse than jotas 2 yellows and Arguable on a par with Jones. No consistency at all from them. Even Klopp said 'I dont care Im too old for this' Everyones done with the frauds |
DoofDoof
10.09.23 | I’d say if Chelsea lose to Arsenal and United lose to City in a few weeks time then that could be them both out of top 5 contention near enough - considering how many strong sides there are in the league this year (Spurs, West Ham, Newcastle, Villa and Brighton are all no slouches).
Some could fall away…but all of them? The top three is probably City, Arsenal and Liverpool. At the least I’d expect all three to make top 5, so there’s only two spots left. Bad news for United and Chelsea, running out of time to change that. |
bellovddd
10.27.23 | ANGE |
DoofDoof
10.28.23 | We’re on a run all right
Chelsea a week on Monday will tell us a lot, win that and Spurs are going to believe we can linger around those top 3 places all season. |
zakalwe
10.28.23 | 26pts from ten games is mental |
Pheromone
10.28.23 | ange [2] |
Faraudo
10.30.23 | Spurs has zero depth, things will come back to normal once they start to get injuries and playing against good teams. |
bellovddd
10.30.23 | spurs have great depth. I think you may have us confused with city who barely have a starting 11.
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DoofDoof
10.30.23 | If spurs first 11 is: Vicario, Udogie, Romero, VDV, Porro, Bentancur, Bissouma, Maddison, Son, Johnson, Kulu
Then bench is: Foster, Royal, Phillips, Davies, Hojbjerg, Sarr, Richarlison, Solomon, Gil
No room for Lo Celso, Lloris, Dier, Sessegnon who should all be leaving shortly. Expect two or three to arrive in January, definitely another central defender, probably also an attacker of some description.
It’s nearly a decent squad, this season it shouldn’t be pushed too much with no Europe. Losing Son or Romero would be he biggest blows right now, maybe Vicario too tbh |
rabidfish
10.30.23 | How TF is ten hag still working? Completely humiliated, Onana saved him from a further beating. United are a disgrace, no easy fix. That first penalty for City was bullshit, tho. Pretty clear who are favorites for winning the league :T |
Pheromone
10.30.23 | dont think you can drop sarr from our starting 11 just yet doof, he was immense on Friday and we need to see if bentancur can regain pre-acl form (which if he can, oh baby) |
DoofDoof
10.30.23 | Phero - I was more just trying to show we have some depth and Bentancur is more 'high profile' in the squad.
Bissouma, Bentancur, Sarr, PEH and Skipp is a decent set of central mids - that selection could challenge most of the top PL sides squads.
Keeper is actually fine, and Foster is an ok reserve.
Bit light in defence and up front compared to others but January should help. Richarlison being a naff flop hasn't helped, plus GLC is a total waste of time in the PL, takes too long on the ball! |
bighubbabuddha
10.30.23 | Here's how I see this season finishing top 10:
1. City
2. Spurs
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Newcastle
6. Villa
7. Man United
8. Brighton
9. West Ham
10. Chelsea |
DoofDoof
10.30.23 | 1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Spurs
5. Villa
6. Newcastle
7. Chelsea
8. Brighton
9. West Ham
10. Man U |
Faraudo
10.30.23 | I'm still thinking (hoping) that Arsenal will win the league, especially if we get a couple of good signings in January |
DoofDoof
10.31.23 | No chance ;) |
zakalwe
10.31.23 | Tottenham will do one of two things
1. Fall by the wayside
2. Win the thing |
Shemson
10.31.23 | I’d quite like Spurs to win it tbh, especially if our Richy scores the goal to get you the title because I’d just love to see what insane over emotional reaction he’d have to that moment |
Shemson
10.31.23 | Oh and of course Everton are staying up, you’ll never be rid of us |
bellovddd
10.31.23 | the scenes if Richie puts in the goal to take the title! |
Pheromone
10.31.23 | richy is overhated but yeah that would be something lol |
DoofDoof
10.31.23 | If Everton get a points deduction then it’s goodnight Vienna
Also watch City’s lawyers avoid them getting the same fate despite much greater crimes no doubt |
DoofDoof
10.31.23 | The Pigeon is a melon, Kenwright’s last meaningful act was flogging that cart horse to Levy for a record fee |
Pheromone
10.31.23 | > If Everton get a points deduction then it’s goodnight Vienna
idk, with the quality of the bottom teams this year everton might still stay up even with a deduction |
Shemson
10.31.23 | We won’t get a points deduction it’s total media nonsense and completely unprecedented
The actual charge is regarding to us trying to write off too much tax on our new stadium which we then rectified. When you have teams like Chelsea doing absolutely insane things with 8 year contracts on mega money it’s mad that the media have tried to make us out to be some kind of supervillain with our net negative spend over the last three years whilst also reducing our wage bill!
Kenwright was our worst chairman in history and deserves no credit for anything football related and only gets credit for being a nice man, Everton in the community being an outstanding charity organisation and the way he spoke at various Hillsborough related events |
Shemson
10.31.23 | For what it’s worth I think we’ll stay up by around 10 points as the quality at the bottom of the league is absolutely abysmal this season. I can see all the new promoted teams this year getting 25-30 points max |
zakalwe
10.31.23 | Richy.
Fucking neck tattoo on that cunt is absolutely farcical. |
DoofDoof
10.31.23 | Shemson - it’s only unprecedented in this league ;) |
DadKungFu
10.31.23 | Tottenham doing good so far but they've got a real uphill battle coming up |
Shemson
10.31.23 | Yeah unprecedented in the league we’re talking about, nothing else matters 🤣
But yeah it’ll be a fine and a slap on the wrist as per everything the premier league has done in recent years. |
Faraudo
10.31.23 | If Everton gets a point reduction then Man City should go to third-tier football lmao |
Shemson
10.31.23 | It’s mad how the media have decided to make us into some horrible entity who deserve it but when there was talk of punishment for the clubs trying to break off into the super league they said ‘don’t punish the fans for the actions of the greedy owners’… that narrative seems to be missing from this one! |
Faraudo
10.31.23 | I mean its Man Shitty, the narrative will always change when it comes to them. |
Deez
10.31.23 | Saw Newcastle get there FIFTH 5.30 kick off which is Prime time in Saudi..defo nothing to see there either |
Egarran
11.09.23 | Most balanced United fan: https://youtu.be/HMAAFy_doSo?si=mmJssGscuuHG2ZRk |
Pheromone
11.09.23 | is that ega circlejerk posting |
Egarran
11.09.23 | Look at his little legs! |
Faraudo
11.10.23 | United's downfall was kinda funny at first, but now it's just pathetic tbh |
Pheromone
11.10.23 | i disagree, united are my favourite team in the prem
it just gets continues n continues i love it |
zakalwe
11.10.23 | It is funny as fuck yeah.
Absolute sham of a club run by arseholes, made up of egos and supported by plastics and tourists.
Representative of the premier league in fairness. |
Faraudo
11.10.23 | If you're enjoying United's downfall, you're a sick man
Me: https://images.pond5.com/hospital-sick-man-rests-lying-088355289_prevstill.jpeg |
zakalwe
11.10.23 | On a more positive note it’s absolutely lovely to see Harry smashing it in ze Bundesliga |
Faraudo
11.10.23 | As an Arsenal fan I absolutely despise him for obvious reasons, but he's a phenomenal player and continues to be the best striker in the world. |
Shemson
11.10.23 | I never would’ve thought that both Kane AND Spurs would prosper from that move!
I’m enjoying United being awful but a little concerned they’re so bad they could sack Ten Hag before we play them in a couple weeks because right now we’d beat them on current form |
Faraudo
11.10.23 | So, like I said a couple of weeks ago, Spurs has no depth, and that will be more evident as the season goes by. |
Jasdevi087
11.10.23 | shem a 1-0 win over Everton is exactly the kind of result that's needed to keep ten hag in that job even longer |
bellovddd
11.10.23 | FUCK KANE |
Faraudo
11.11.23 | Lmao Spurs |
DoofDoof
11.11.23 | We’ll get 10 more points before 2024 from nine games, that’s it I feel
We’ll come into our own again in 2024 and get either 4th or 5th
Arsenal still won’t win the league
My predictions |
Faraudo
11.13.23 | Nah, I think we'll have a good crack at it. Spurs imploding in one week was better than cocaine ngl |
Demon of the Fall
11.14.23 | 'Spurs imploding in one week was better than cocaine ngl' (2)
Antony Taylor with another masterclass this weekend, getting that game one week after his temporary demotion was an absolute farce. Of course he made a complete mess of it too. Still, it was a great game and a point rescued in the end. Entertaining stuff. If only we had a clue what we were doing against the 'lesser sides' (just get some men behind the ball and we look clueless).
Such is the talent at their disposal, that City probably won't 'miss' him necessarily, but Cole Palmer is a legit talent. Another very good game from him and nerves of steel at the death. His England call-up is well deserved |
Deez
11.14.23 | Yeah was very surprised when they let him go. |
DoofDoof
11.14.23 | 'Nah, I think we'll have a good crack at it'
you're barely keeping up as it is and haven't had your own yearly implosion yet, City or maybe Liverpool
if you do the business away at Brentford, Liverpool and Villa before January I might just reconsider...but I'd probably still expect City to win it |
DoofDoof
11.14.23 | 'So, like I said a couple of weeks ago, Spurs has no depth, and that will be more evident as the season goes by.'
Realistically, this is as bad as it gets this season I think with seven or eight key players out at once.
We'll buy two new faces in January too, we still have chaff who never play (Lo Celso, this dude is a full Argentina international and still looks an absolute amateur in the PL, take 2-3 seconds too long on the ball all the time, get rid already...if the Saudis really want to throw money at Richarlison then that is Christmas time, get rid also)
I feel Spurs will come into our own come the second half of the season as everyone gets the Euro blues with tough mid week fixtures. |
DoofDoof
11.17.23 | unprecedented?
we live in unprecedented times - 10 points, wallop
Everton may yet survive though because they are playing well and have good spirit, that is the more surprising thing for me |
Demon of the Fall
11.17.23 | Everton will likely survive because the promoted teams are awful this year. First time I can remember where all three of them look like certainties to be the three worst by year's end. The points threshold to survive will be low (it was expected with Luton, but thought the other two might at least be competitive) |
DoofDoof
11.17.23 | If Everton had been playing like last season they'd be on -5pts right now and relegation certainties so fair play to them, I think timing has saved them.
Chelsea next!
Man City have the finest lawyers in the land...we revisit in three decades time |
Faraudo
11.17.23 | The league is disgustingly corrupt tbh |
Deez
11.17.23 | This is actually the best scenario for the Ev given a points deduction was always coming. Last year would have finished them. This they have enough to stay up and as usual enough shite behind them this year 2 especially shite teams. |
Deez
11.17.23 | Although with them singing 'blue moon' a few years ago talk about City 'saving Football' the hilarity of them now shouting what about City is defo not lost on me |
Jasdevi087
04.13.24 | cannot believe Ipswich Town are probably gonna win the championship lmao |
