Jasdevi087: If vocal range was equal to quality

Jasdevi087 03.26.16	moral of the story: it's not the size of the penis, it's how you use it
MrSirLordGentleman 03.26.16	Great list You can't do a vocal range list without Ian Gillan though
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	I just did tho
Cryptkeeper 03.26.16	You included Papa Franku. Nice.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	the reason i included people like Filthy Frank was to make the idea look even more silly
Deathconscious 03.26.16	well, this is an interesting list. pretty sure no one's ever done this before.
Sevengill 03.26.16	How can anyone sing an A1? Talk about some low-end. I'm a Bass 2 and my useful range is D2-E4 head (A5 falsetto). I'm not sure if vocal fry counts.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	yeah it's very rare to have A1 in your chest range, especially if you're a woman like Siouxsie Sioux (who isn't even a contralto I don't think, not sure). Her's is a fried note, but it's in a melody and it's clear and sustained, so I count it
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	actually now that i relisten, it's very clear and barely even fried, like Mike Patton's throat singing
Sevengill 03.26.16	Yeah that's some X-Men shit right there, haha. D2 is the lowest note in Handel's Messiah, which gives perspective to Mike Patton going down most of another octave from there.
Storm In A Teacup 03.26.16	Anywhere I can look up to understand all this? I'd love to know what I technically can do.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	C4 is middle c on a piano, so go from there I guess
Sevengill 03.26.16	match it with this http://plasticity.szynalski.com/tone-generator.htm
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	or yeah, measure it against a sine wave frequency :p
EvoHavok 03.26.16	Awesome list, Jas. Pretty cool to see how much some people with more limited ranges can do if you think about their music.
CalculatingInfinity 03.26.16	I love the fact this list exists so I can shit on TK even more tbh
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	I've added in there voice types (which are approximations of classical music roles based on where the singer sounds comfortable singing, how their voice sounds in different ranges, etc) and it's interesting to see that tenors seem to pop up more frequently towards the bottom, despite being quite popular in the top 15
InFlamesWeThrash666 03.26.16	Halford's range is 6 octaves not 4...His range reduced when he got older
Snowdog808 03.26.16	Captain Beefheart, Jon Oliva, Geoff Tate, and Kai Hansen would make great additions to the four octave club.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	"Halford had a range of 6 octaves not 4...His range reduced when he got older" I highly doubt that
SitarHero 03.26.16	You can't have a list of shitty singers with incredible vocal ranges without Jim Gillette. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FyUb2sN3p4
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	"You can't have a list of shitty singers..." bruh
SitarHero 03.26.16	I'm joshin bruh. But the premise was "If vocal range = quality" and if that were the case Gillette would be bigger than the Beatles.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	yeah I just didn't think to put him on here. but i mean this list already says that spongebob > sinatra so :p
SitarHero 03.26.16	RE: Sinatra. I particularly loved "Freddie Mercury's" burn on Sinatra in their Epic Rap Battles of History faceoff, when he calls out Sinatra for basically having just one octave in his whole range.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	he's actually got nearly 3 as it turns out
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	though in singing, there's a huge difference between 3 and 4
SitarHero 03.26.16	I know. I'm sure the diss was an exaggeration, but if Sinatra has more than one octave I probably haven't heard it xD
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	i could find you his lowest and highest notes if you'd like :p
SitarHero 03.26.16	Naah it's all good. I was playing around with that tone generator thing sevengill posted the link for. Pretty sure I've got more than Blue Eyes, that's enough for me to know. ;]
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	I've got more than David Gilmour, I win
SitarHero 03.26.16	Dammit! F2 to about an E6. So close to 4 octaves.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	only bitch niggas can't go lower than F2
SitarHero 03.26.16	Pfft. High notes get the girls.
Shemson 03.26.16	I'm sure I saw one of these lists before that had Kyo right at the top just below Patton?
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	that'll be because Kyo's full range extends all the way to G#7, putting him over 6 octaves. But it's a squeaky, very brief and uncontrolled whistle and for this list i'm only counting controlled range.
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	this is it here at 3:10, wouldn't exactly say that's a sung note :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iasixSpDR5o
Flugmorph 03.26.16	This is an amazing af list. Thanks man! Interesting to see dickinson, dio and halford so far down. Hehe u even included pink guy haha
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	Halford's in the top 25 with a >4 octave range, so he's not doing too bad I'd say ;)
Flugmorph 03.26.16	Well if you think how much these three are sherished for their incredible vocal abilitys and then they are behind chino hehe. Devin townsend ftw btw!
DanielNightLewis 03.26.16	Anyone else endlessly amused by Maynard and Fred Durst being consecutive in this list? This made for an interesting read, thanks!
Shemson 03.26.16	Fair play man, can't argue when you back it up! Devin Townsend FTW [2]
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	Devin Townsend is just an inhuman vocalist, surprised his range isn't bigger
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	"Devin Townsend is just an inhuman vocalist, surprised his range isn't bigger" it is, he just screams with it instead of sings with it ;)
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	Ahh I see, out of interest why doesn't screaming count?
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	It is a skill all of its own surely?
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	Well it doesn't count because you're just forcing air through clenched vocal chords and you aren't actually trying to hit any note in particular. Most screams also tend to curve, rather than sustain a particular pitch, so it's kinda dodgy to count them
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	So does devs Bb6 in happy camper not count, because I'm pretty sure he's trying to hit that note?
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	can you link it?
Trebor. 03.26.16	cool
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	nvm, found it and the note in that phrase that's actually Bb6 could very well have been accidentally hit imo :p
Flugmorph 03.26.16	lol.
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	Really? It just fits with the tune so well. In fact most of his screams seem deliberate as they always seem to add to the melody, but oh well. Also, what did you think of the song? Quite noisy eh? ;)
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	it's a cool song. The phrase itself sounds in key for the most part, but I think that's because the song's in a really ugly key to begin with. You can hear in that passage he does these atonal jumps up, they're very short and only one of those jumps sounds like the Bb6 in question (to my ears, I could be wrong). It's kinda tricky to count it because of the nature of the way he's screaming, he probably pushed to hard and hit it accidentally.
Keyblade 03.26.16	this is a great list. i wonder what my listening experiences would be like if i had a deeper understanding of theory, or at least not be tone deaf lol
JamieTwort 03.26.16	It's a shame that Halford only seemed to use his range to full effect on one or two albums (those being in the 70's of course). It's particularly glaring when you listen to the variety in his performance on Sad Wings and compare it to the monotony of his high shrieking on Painkiller, but even when comparing Sad Wings to his 80's performances it's still really noticeable.
JigglyPDiddy 03.26.16	Woah! Beast of a list
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	"It's kinda tricky to count it because of the nature of the way he's screaming, he probably pushed to hard and hit it accidentally" Yeah apparently he passed out after recording the studio version lol Also, there's a song in which Dev sings really fucking high but it's never on any range websites which confuses me, it's called processional and in the first minute he reaches ridiculous highs in what sounds like a half falsetto/half scream kind of voice, don't know if it's higher than E6 but check it out!
Sevengill 03.26.16	Kai Hansen and Ralf Scheepers pls?
Dis_Con_Nec_Ted 03.26.16	therangeplace has entered sputnik
CalculatingInfinity 03.26.16	One person you need to add: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan Also feature woop!
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	@BenThatsMyJamin he goes up to F5 in that, almost a whole octave lower than E6. F5 is still superb tho, especially considering how solid he hits it
BookoftheFallen 03.26.16	Isnt Warrel Dane from Nevermroe supposed to have a really wide range?
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	"he goes up to F5 in that, almost a whole octave lower than E6. F5 is still superb tho, especially considering how solid he hits it" Ah well, that note is just so majestic I thought it would be higher, almost seems higher than the E6 one. Out of interest, how do you work out all this note nonsense?
BenThatsMyJamin 03.26.16	Like how did you know that was an F5? Excuse me if I'm being an idiot
Jasdevi087 03.26.16	a couple of ways to do it. I like to compare it against a piano (C4 is middle C). but if you want to be more accurate, you can compare it to a tone playing at the corresponding frequency http://plasticity.szynalski.com/tone-generator.htm you can also do it by ear when you get used to it, I'm not that accurate though
Anthracks 03.27.16	No Adele list is trash
wwf 03.27.16	this list is kind of fascinating
XingKing 03.27.16	this list is kind of fascinating [2]
DoctorGreen 03.27.16	What is the range of Dave Gahan?
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	B1 - F5 (3 octaves, 6 semitones) for reference guys, just search therangeplace as that's where i got most of these from (apart from a couple which i did myself)
Britch2tiger 03.27.16	What's your range take on the lead of Rishloo (Eidolon album preferably)?
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	lucky for you he's already been covered on therangeplace, so I can tell you it's G2 - F#5 (2 octaves, 11 semitones)
SitarHero 03.27.16	I'd take that with a pinch of salt. The guy has way larger range than that, it may just be that he hasn't recorded things at the extremes of his voice the way Devy and Patton do regularly. He's got at least as much range as MJK.
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	that's the case for most of the list, even the ones that already have big ol' 12 inchers like Devin, Kyo and Gackt can almost certainly do more. I'm also fully convinced Jack Black could break 4 octaves if he tried
mifzal 03.27.16	usually people cannot sing more than 3 octaves without proper training, however some are born with natural elasticity of vocal chords. wider range =/= great singing nor great singing=/= great musicianship. I mean look at Bob Dylan
mifzal 03.27.16	of course singers like MJ and Mariah aren't praised for having wider range but for their singing (for most part) . P.S you forgot Bumac Vitas
mifzal 03.27.16	and where is Brendon Urie?
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	"usually people cannot sing more than 3 octaves without proper training, however some are born with natural elasticity of vocal chords. wider range =/= great singing" was the point of the entire list, yeah. There are already 100 vocalists on here. I wanted to make a list that had a variety of "good" and "bad" singers, hence why some "good" singers are not here as there wasn't any room. imo if you can do more than 2 1/2, you're doing very well already
mifzal 03.27.16	agree. you can give them a rating for how well they use their vocal range/singing too, eg 4/5 for MJ and 0.05/5 for Adam Levine.
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	i could, but I'd rather not add subjectivity to it
mifzal 03.27.16	yeah real ratings not exaggerations.
Zig 03.27.16	Agree that wider range does not equal better singing. IMO, Patton is the best, reason is singing diversity, in terms of style. @Jasdevi087: maybe you wanna check Minnie Riperton.
Zig 03.27.16	Bee Gees's Barry would be #1.
BenThatsMyJamin 03.27.16	"and where is Brendon Urie?" Ugh most annoying singer ever
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.27.16	i cant believe you spent time doing this
Jasdevi087 03.27.16	it's a topic that interests me and the list took like an hour to put together, nerdy shit, but hey it interests people so w/e. I only did like 6 of these myself and that was when I was bored in the holidays
grannypantys 03.27.16	i dnt understand thus list/ but i stare at it toooo wrap consciousnesses unto thoubt secrets
SAPoodle 03.27.16	This list is the best thing on Sputnik right now
Rawmeeth38 03.27.16	Jarboe
InFlamesWeThrash666 03.27.16	List needs Eric Adams from Manowar by the way. He has a great range
Snowdog808 03.28.16	[2]
Jasdevi087 03.29.16	http://therangeplace.forummotions.com/
Jasdevi087 03.29.16	3 octaves, 6 semitones
Lavair 04.01.16	Isn't Mariah Carey, like, 9 octaves? That's an exaggeration but I thought she was put in the record books for having one of the biggest ranges in the world, or something.
Jasdevi087 04.01.16	nah just 5, as you can see, even Axl Rose can beat that. 5 is fucking enourmous though, but I think she just gets a lot of attention because she's so well known. The biggest range in the world is Tim Storms who can do 11 octaves (from G-7 - G#4)
Jasdevi087 04.01.16	there's a tonne of classically trained singers who can easily clear 5 octaves too, so i guess she gets the attention for being a contemporary singer
Jasdevi087 04.01.16	I shouldn't say easily clear actually cause it takes them fucking heaps of practice and skill to do it
mifzal 04.02.16	yup, especially opera singers how they have to learn the skills and practice in for years, still range is one of the least important things to them. they stress more on quality and durability. of course it not easy to keep voice high without a mic
Jasdevi087 04.02.16	opera singers are gods
Jasdevi087 04.02.16	not for their range, fuck range, the sheer power in their voices required to project so clearly in an auditorium is just outstanding
SitarHero 04.16.16	Randomly, you should check out Johann Beardraven of The Beards. The guy has a pretty amazing voice.
theNateman 04.16.16	Hey, I kinda feel like one or all of the beach boys should be on here...
Jasdevi087 04.16.16	well, you take it up with mx to sort out a bigger list feature that also allows me to put more than 101 entries and also allows me to place entries in the list wherever I want instead of at the bottom only :p
Jasdevi087 04.16.16	also just did a full analysis of Bilinda Butcher and her range is actually Bb2 - A5
beachdude 04.18.16	This is a really cool list idea, well done! Definitely goes to show that range is only one part of what makes a great vocalist.
TheSonomaDude 04.25.16	Where does the guy from Cake fit on this list
Jasdevi087 04.25.16	absolutely no idea
Dis_Con_Nec_Ted 04.25.16	therangeplace needs Jarboe
Jasdevi087 04.25.16	I actually started working on a thread for her, but honestly she's just got so much shit i'll never be fucked finishing it
Dis_Con_Nec_Ted 04.25.16	Yes I could imagine that. But good things take time, right ;). Swans and some of the more noteworthy solo albums showcase a good deal of her range I'd say but what do I know, don't even know how much stuff she's actually got.
Jasdevi087 05.07.16	really gonna have to go fuck myself with some of these entries since some of these singers now have bigger ranges and need to be moved -_-
Tunaboy45 07.24.16	I get told my speaking voice sounds like Matt Berninger, only less american Wanted to bump this list again because it's cool
mifzal 07.24.16	Mariah is the best singer...just saying don't like her songs though..except the covers
Jasdevi087 07.24.16	"Wanted to bump this list again because it's cool" ugh, don't remind me of all the inaccuracies again
TheSonomaDude 07.31.16	Does lemmy really have that much range?
Flugmorph 07.31.16	yes
Jasdevi087 07.31.16	yeah he does apparently, but I'm pretty sure everything outside of the 4th octave is weak as shit
Kompys2000 08.27.16	"Andy Ballsack" Fuckin' A
Jasdevi087 08.27.16	planning on redoing this once Therangeplace's forum relocation is sorted. This list is gonna have some serious reshuffling
Jasdevi087 08.27.16	with that in mind, if there's anyone you'd like to see on the new one, I'll try my best but I'll be aiming for singers that have had reliable enough research done next time
Jasdevi087 09.09.16	Will be remaking this in the coming weeks now that Therangeplace has officially moved forums and research has been reviewed. A couple of really interesting new editions and changes (just waiting on some of the bigger names on this list to have their threads moved before I start)
BlazinBlitzer 09.28.16	I found out last week that Phil Anselmo has a 5 octave range, going from C1-C6.
SteakByrnes 09.28.16	Matt Bellamy from Muse has a range of G2-C♯6
Jasdevi087 09.28.16	G2 - B5 actually since I'm only going by melodic range
wwf 09.28.16	what exactly does melodic range mean and there's no way all these ranges are in full voice the whole way right
Jasdevi087 09.28.16	No so "melodic range" (which is what I call it, other people use different terminology) is just the section of their range that's controlled. Nah these aren't all full voice all the way like Mike Patton's E7 is in whistle register, but he sings in his whistle register up to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbMlrd0iDyw&ab_channel=LeoTomasoni&t=3m0s
Jasdevi087 09.28.16	"controlled range" would be better terminology I guess, but I'm in the habit of using melodic now
SteakByrnes 09.28.16	Oh I didn't know you were only doing the controlled range haha, still impressive tho
neekafat 02.02.17	Rob Halford is God
ZippaThaRippa 02.02.17	does Corey Taylor really have such a huge range?
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	no, he doesn't. I think atm we agree on TRP that it's realistically like Eb2 - A6 but no one fucking wants to redo his thread lmao
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	I plan to include Klaus Nomi when I make my newer more accurate version. All I'm waiting on at the moment is for the guy who was working on Mike Patton to post his research
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	his range is G2 - C#6, if you were wondering
ZippaThaRippa 02.02.17	tbh I don't know what the numbers mean
Flugmorph 02.02.17	i still cant get over the fact that there is a guy named Andy Ballsack
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	"tbh I don't know what the numbers mean" the numbers are which octave the note is in. C4 is middle C on a piano, the octaves start at C
ZippaThaRippa 02.02.17	how many notes is C#6 from C7
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	labelled all the ones that I know from memory are wrong
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	"how many notes is C#6 from C7" 11 semitones
ZippaThaRippa 02.02.17	Okay that's what I thought but I wasn't sure. Dunno why vocalists have to have all these fancy words like semitones. Are half steps not good enough for you?
Jasdevi087 02.02.17	I just find it easier to count in semitones lol, that's the only reason I use it in this list
Dewinged 02.02.17	Wow impressive work here Jas, funny to see Brent Hinds from Mastodon there.
parksungjoon 09.25.21	Etienne Sin The Art of Stealing Hearts C2 - G#5 (3 octaves, 8 semitones) - INCORRECT bariqueef
kalkwiese 09.25.21	Baritenor isn't a real vocal fach btw, people on the internet use it for people with huge ranges and it doesn't say anything tbh