Greem
01.10.14 | closer |
tommygun
01.10.14 | closer |
MrCoffee
01.10.14 | substance |
ShitsofRain
01.10.14 | UP |
SAPoodle
01.10.14 | Unknown Pleasures |
zakalwe
01.10.14 | Unknown pleasures |
KILL
01.10.14 | can we do this for every album ever |
Chortles
01.10.14 | yeah but this isn't the official album battle so the results don't matter |
lou1000
01.10.14 | Closer |
ButteryBiscuitBass
01.10.14 | Closer |
RadicalEd
01.10.14 | unknown pleasures. |
eddie95
01.10.14 | haven't listen to closer but unknown pleasure wasn't that great honestly... |
CodyVoid
01.10.14 | Closer. Comin from a guy who claims he was at a point the most obsessed with this band as it might be even possible.
Why?
Unknown Pleasures has one/two songs where the pace is not fitting to the album. Although I enjoy Interzone a lot for what it is the album could do dramawise good without it. Though every song still might get a 5 with New Dawn Fades obviously being the best time in the history of music in 77.
Closer has the way more perfect, depressing ending. First in heart and soul he kind of gives up... whatll die first heart or soul... kind of like the decision of a death sentenced person if he wants to get on the electric chair or be hanged. Ian Curtis just fantasizing about his depression over the course of a day, for ever and a lifetime in the last three songs. That is just in the flow of a drama what both of these albums are all about way advanced to Unknown Pleasures
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mryrtmrnfoxxxy
01.10.14 | unknown pleasures |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
01.10.14 | altho honestly
turn on the bright lights =] |
Cygnatti
01.10.14 | omfg why u do this to me?! |
TheBarber
01.10.14 | Unknown Pleasures for it's less refined but more bare bones and minimal might, also Closer fucks up it's ending since the track before the closer was definitly the best way to close and album ever, instead we get the actual closer that doesn't live up. |
CodyVoid
01.10.14 | @TheBarber: Decades is imo the best song of Joy Division. I feel like i am not at all alone with this opinion. |
Greem
01.10.14 | Cody, I absolutely agree with you |
Greem
01.10.14 | And yes, Decades is the best JD song |
ButteryBiscuitBass
01.10.14 | Decades is the best song ever. |
CodyVoid
01.10.14 | It is truely a masterpiece... this most energetic, simple machinery beat. The only intro that i feel more passionate about then the shadowplay-intro. Once the synth comes in i feel instantly cold-goosebump-showered and absolutely petrified. If you are in touch with your third inner eye you can really see the gearwheel going here. It is difficult to make up for such clear visuals just by some simple beats put together. The rest is just Beyond with the outro that pleads for the protagonists suicide. It has almost like a fanatism and perv-kind of feeling with even some sarcastic storytelling-kind-of-thing by making-fun of his own "How-did-it-go-all-this-wrong": We are the young men! It takes it just further. It has also this little feeling of "Where have they been?" that gives you chills that he even attempts the poor victim-move. Somehow it make ssense with saying at the beginning in songs like "A Means To An End": I put my trust in you. He really wants to make himself look like he isnt to blame for his own misfortune. It is kind of like copying the Roman Herzog Woyczeck in a different way.
Ian Curtis was a genius poet. He was really in touch with being the most artistic actor role. Unfortunately just a little bit too much. |
zakalwe
01.10.14 | Cody you are a speaker of the highest truths.
Curtis was the real deal though, no act about it |
Greem
01.10.14 | Woyczeck is a film? |
CodyVoid
01.10.14 | @zakalwe: no doubt about him not pretending to be something he was not. But dont get me wrong: I want to put the sentence more like this: But isnt being a character, isnt living life already acting? You being true to yourself is identifying just more with your actor role. Ian was all about being this man on the record. I mean, who really cares about his private life, more: I dont think he was interested at all about his family, a gross thing to say but i dont even think he was in love at any moment with Deb. How could he? He was way to egoistic fulfilling his own dream of perfection. While being physically maybe at lots of moments with friends having fun he was psychologically at this place where he saw himself as a victim and was making the story up how he could look even more tragic. There are many people even nowadays who do such bullcrap. Like trying to look like they had a tough childhood whats the point in such a thing. Even if they had it doesnt give them any good. Theres no point. Here Ian at least used it to craft perfection-symmetry-aesthetic-davinciism
@greem:
Yes, Woyczeck is a also a movie. First it was a book. Ian was interested in the work of Roman Herzog back then. Woyczeck was released 79 as a movie by german filmmaker Woyzeck who is himself absolutely disturbing, crazy. The filmmaker is known for argumenting big time, harassing reporters in tv. and I can clearly see what he did there. Woyczeck gets punked by everybody and has no perspectives at all. He is the looser with good intentions loving a girl. At the end he kills. It is really raw. You are really in touch in this movie with asking yourself if killing someone in such an extreme case is okay. You really feel kind of like he did the right thing with killing her. Its strange. After watching it you could possibly think of a mobbing-victim killing the bully as justifieable. |
Greem
01.10.14 | You mean Werner Herzog? |
CodyVoid
01.10.14 | i mean not roman herzog but werner herzog, i mean klaus kinski as the actor who bullies reporters. sry for the mess-up hahaha he really resembles Woyczeck also in real life.
here you go seeing Klaus Kinski being really mean with the meanest german accent at an interview but also having something really unique about himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Efhz8jxNI |
zakalwe
01.10.14 | "Perfection-symmetry-aesthetic-davinciism"
Me think A lot Like Birds is really good lol.
I can't argue the bloke wasn't a shit but the passion and troubled mind is tangible on them records just like Dylan,Young, Cobain etc.
Not like an actor "being" the troubled soul. |
BreakerdeGodot
01.10.14 | Closer, hands down. |
eloimayano
01.23.14 | Unknown pleasures easily |
MO
01.23.14 | still gotta give this band a listen |
Hyperion1001
01.23.14 | theyre not really good imo, its one of those things thats only as lauded as it is because if the prerogative image that comes with it.
dont expect much. |
MO
01.23.14 | thanks for the heads up broheim how ya been |
Hyperion1001
01.23.14 | nb school started so im doin that a lot now
you? |
MO
01.23.14 | workin' away
looking to get back into school as well for a designation, but we'll see |
DrMaximus
01.23.14 | Check them, MO. They're great. |