BeneaththeDarkOcean
08.29.16 | List is shit lol butts [2459809085245] |
Tunaboy45
08.29.16 | "often misunderstood but uniquely thrilling in a way that Wilson's recent albums like Hand. Cannot. Erase. cannot hope to match"
dear god no |
MercuryToHell
08.29.16 | I enjoy 2, 4, 7, 8 + 9.
I think it's good that you present each entry with some substance as opposed to 'fuck you guys, this is great', but unfortunately I don't think many people's opinions will change, it could come across a little defensive! |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Steven Wilson might be my number one hated musician of all time. Ugh, can't stand that idiot.
Otherwise, cool list. This thrwead will probably turn to shit real quickly, but it's cool to see you standing up for your opinions on these albums. Keep the positivity. |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | steven wilson is a twat yeah |
CalculatingInfinity
08.29.16 | Why most hated though? Sounds like a bit of a hate boner there. |
smaugman
08.29.16 | yea!!! steven wilson is such a cock for making great music!!! |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Could be. It's just that I find him extremely pretentious in basically every interview I ever saw him give, his music to be the most style over substance I have ever heard (inmyopinionobviously) and that I had some rather big fallouts with his fanbase, who got incredibly angry at me not liking his music. Even if it is a hateboner, I still have my reasons. |
Tunaboy45
08.29.16 | I never understood the hate Steven gets, he's a genuine bloke who's just making the music he's passionate about |
smaugman
08.29.16 | so pretentious because the music he makes doesn't suck nor is it simplistic |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | I can give him one thing. He is one hell of an audio-engineer and musical arranger.
How many people really do hate Steven though? I would say I'm in an absolute minority, most people really love his music. It's just not for me. |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | @smaug: And what is wrong with simplistic music now? |
miketunneyiscool123
08.29.16 | LP's Hybrid Theory has a somewhat high average rating on this site at a 3.7, but yeah, it gets a lot of backlash. I haven't cared for it in a long time, but I don't hate it. |
onionbubs
08.29.16 | I used to love 1 when I first heard it. It hasn't aged too well but I still wouldn't call it bad. It has its moments. Some editing and better lyrics would do it good tho. |
Tunaboy45
08.29.16 | His KC remasters and 1.5 mixes are out of this world |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Yeah, they are. He is one of the best audiophiles working in audio-engineering at the moment, imo. |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | lol smaug getting all defensive over a bottom of the barrel musician lol |
Tunaboy45
08.29.16 | "bottom of the barrel musician"
trying too hard man |
smaugman
08.29.16 | im not saying there's anything wrong with simplistic music, im stating the fact that many people find "complex" music "pretentious" |
miketunneyiscool123
08.29.16 | @smaugman I've seen that a lot with people who talk about bands like Dream Theater. I've probably seen a lot of that on Metal Archives too since people get vicious with their reviews on that site. |
parksungjoon
08.29.16 | itt: 16 year olds mad at steven wilson for no reason |
smaugman
08.29.16 | there's a lot of strange reviews on metal archives yea. I saw a guy that rated blackwater park 6% or something |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | @smaug: I don't find "complex" music pretentious at all. I find STEVENS music pretentious. That's all. |
smaugman
08.29.16 | and why is that lol |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Do you want the musical analysis option where I list all the things I have a problem with in a mini musical-science essay or the short and compact option where I go in less detail and just list the general annoyances I have with him. |
smaugman
08.29.16 | you dont even need to make it big, i like things kept short |
miketunneyiscool123
08.29.16 | @Hurricanslash I've noticed how high his albums are rated so go ahead wit hthe first one. ;) |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Okay, sure. First off, he does some things that can be very groanworthy to people who studied musical sciences by being a VERY literal composer, especially when he is "quoting" musical passages from other artists. Second off, I think he can go very overboard with his lyrics to the point of being pretentious, for example fear of a Blank Planet, which to me read like a big "TECHNOLOGY IS SCAAAAAAARY, PROTECT THE KIIIIIIIDS". I hate stuff like that, he is very unreflective in a lot of his work. And lastly, I often get the feeling that his albums have the same type of flow, just differently arranged. That is perfect for a fan, but when you are not one, it can get very repetitive and draining really fast. |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | @mike: Sorry, smaug was faster. :D |
smaugman
08.29.16 | wut hand cannot erase is nothing like his other stuff. and who the cares about lyrics anyway? |
CalculatingInfinity
08.29.16 | "and who the cares about lyrics anyway?"
A lot of people. |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Hand.Cannot.Erase is up there in my "favorite" releases of his. I didn't mind that one.
And yeah, a lot of people care about lyrics. A LOT. |
CalculatingInfinity
08.29.16 | Yeah, the fact that he's telling someone "who cares about lyrics" to a person who is creating rap music is laughable. |
miketunneyiscool123
08.29.16 | Sounds like an experimental AC/DC the way you put it. haha |
smaugman
08.29.16 | I NEED LYRICS TO APPEAL TO ME IN A WAY THAT I FEEL SPECIAL
nah but they rarily matter. if they're good, sure. then again, i can spot cheesy or bad lyrics ofc. i hate rock bands who have that arena vibe and include anything with rock n roll |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | smaug just log off ur embarrassing urself |
AsleepInTheBack
08.29.16 | Agree with your comments about linkin Park's ATS. I don't think its quite as fantastic as you state but it's unduly hated on sput imo.
Is 8 actually disliked at sput? I thought the response was fairly positive |
Hurricanslash
08.29.16 | Having shitty lyrics in a genre like Prog-Rock/metal is a pretty big offense in my book. You can't just expect to let the music do EVERYTHING. If you do, listen to instrumental music.
And like Calc said, thanks for telling a rapper that lyrics rarely matter. Feelsgoodman. |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | smaug is just some dumb white kid don't mind him |
smaugman
08.29.16 | i do listen to a lot of instrumental
and sinternet, i can't care less about what you think. you're just an annoying weasel anyway |
smaugman
08.29.16 | you are so fucking stupid it hurts my brain |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | pretty sure a lot of people like 6
while 9 isnt as popular as their earlier stuff, i don't think it's not liked either |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | lmao did you just call me a weasel what kind of insult is that lol |
CalculatingInfinity
08.29.16 | "Having shitty lyrics in a genre like Prog-Rock/metal is a pretty big offense in my book. You can't just expect to let the music do EVERYTHING."
Children of Bodom would give you a stroke mate lol. Lyrics very rarely matter to me but in cases they've changed my viewpoint on a song drastically, even if people don't care for them they should at least respect the people that do is my motto.
"i hate rock bands who have that arena vibe and include anything with rock n roll"
Yet one of your favorite bands is Queen? |
smaugman
08.29.16 | i like 1973-1976 queen |
TVC15
08.29.16 | 6 is best MGMT and it's pretty damn good too unlike everything else they've done |
DickLeggingtonThe3rd
08.29.16 | Finally some love for the incident. One of my fav PT albums. |
Rik VII
08.29.16 | "his music to be the most style over substance"
what does that even mean.
on topic: I do agree that The Incident is >kinda< underrated, but no, I really think his recent solo stuff is better. Especially The Raven, that's his best work imo. It's a well-rounded diversity of 70's prog and it's extremely atmospheric and entertaining.
The hate for Steven Wilson is ridiculous, not really a fan of him but he is a good musician and he knows what he does.
whatever, what am I saying, every form of hate is rididulous. |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | '6 is best MGMT and it's pretty damn good too unlike everything else they've done'
it's good but debut is miles better sorry |
JamieTwort
08.29.16 | Fuck Steven Wilson and 90% of his music. |
BenThatsMyJamin
08.29.16 | Honestly this list is just stuff everyone enjoyed while they were first really getting into music as an emotional teenager. Proceeding to become a 'free spirit' and 'music lover', they joined sputnik just to wank over said albums and were shocked at how low the ratings for these 'works of art' were, only to realise a few years later when they'd listened to some actual good stuff how mediocre these albums are, lowering their ratings from 4.5-5 to 2.5-3. In the meantime they made a list complaining about how low the ratings of these unquestionable masterpieces were and how other people just 'didn't understand' and how 'it's all personal taste guyz!!'
4 is not bad tho |
PurpleDino
08.29.16 | used to dig 5 hard but their first two are definitely better, Killing With a Smile particularly so |
Ocean of Noise
08.29.16 | 2, 3, 4 and 11 are great. I haven't heard the others. |
magicuba
08.29.16 | throne to the wolves is best FFTL album |
Drifter
08.29.16 | 21CB is my second fav from GD. The Incident is as well my 2nd fav from PT. |
magicuba
08.29.16 | "Honestly this list is just stuff everyone enjoyed while they were first really getting into music as an emotional teenager. Proceeding to become a 'free spirit' and 'music lover', they joined sputnik just to wank over said albums and were shocked at how low the ratings for these 'works of art' were, only to realise a few years later when they'd listened to some actual good stuff how mediocre these albums are, lowering their ratings from 4.5-5 to 2.5-3. In the meantime they made a list complaining about how low the ratings of these unquestionable masterpieces were and how other people just 'didn't understand' and how 'it's all personal taste guyz!!'
surprisingly accurate but still I believe that some records have been bashed too much while they are actually really fun records, and sput creates a sort of undeserved stigma around them |
bloc
08.29.16 | I like 2 and 3 |
danielcardoso
08.29.16 | "Fuck Steven Wilson and 90% of his music."
had to be a jamie comment lol. nah but in all seriousness i'm nowhere near the biggest porcupine tree fan, but i do quite like in absentia and stupid dream. |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | Stupid Dream and Deadwing are the only good PT |
Sinternet
08.29.16 | oh and No-Man is good too but everything else he has done is baaaad |
danielcardoso
08.29.16 | I prefer in absentia to deadwing tbh, but yea stupid dream is good. |
Stereochrome1
08.29.16 | My Chemical Romance's Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge is one I love that Sputnik doesn't
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rapideyemovement
08.29.16 | "ATS and Kid A really are thematically similar"
You've got some nerve, I'll give you that. |
JamieTwort
08.29.16 | "Stupid Dream and Deadwing are the only good PT"
Those are among the worst. |
Drifter
08.30.16 | "Those are among the worst"
Yes |
Kompys2000
08.30.16 | Nice to see someone sticking up for albums they like that aren't very widely appreciated, and actually explaining why they disagree with the majority. |
DoofusWainwright
02.08.17 | Horrifying list |
TVC15
02.08.17 | Idk MGMT's Congratulations is underrated af |
neekafat
02.08.17 | ATS is fucking incredible |
Sinternet
02.08.17 | oh yeah i forgot smaug called me a weasel that was pretty funny |
BeyondCosby
02.08.17 | "Only Revolutions" is actually a really solid album. |
ZippaThaRippa
02.08.17 | 10 sucks ass. Matt Good did not have the vocal talent and charisma to lead the band. |
onionbubs
02.08.17 | Biffy Clyro are dull as hell but the captain is a decent song |
MyNameIsPencil
02.08.17 | Memebrid Theory |
BeyondCosby
02.08.17 | Dull? or Full? |
WeinerMan
02.08.17 | why are we commenting on another one of this guy's lists? hes a doodoohead |
tellah
02.08.17 | 7 and 10 aren't AMAZING but are underrated
hate the drum mix on 3 |
Hurricanslash
02.09.17 | This thread brings back memories. I love it. |
Tundra
01.16.21 | Damn good list dude, some solid stuff for sure |
BenThatsMyJamin
01.16.21 | I remember when I joined I also thought the site hated 2 as I could not fathom how anyone could give it below a 5 but I eventually came to realise that avg is massively respectable for a nu metal album |