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JohnnyoftheWell 02.02.12	Makes me a little happier to live in the UK
ILJ 02.02.12	Lucky you. I honestly have no idea how Gingrich and Romney are the frontrunners. They both strike me as completely awful, moronic human beings. How America has not realized this, I do not know.
ILJ 02.02.12	lets face it, U.S. sucks chimpanzee shit stained furry crusty old pedophile ball sack. plan to move out once i graduate college I'd like to do that also. Preferably the U.K.
JohnnyoftheWell 02.02.12	^where r u gonna go?
JohnnyoftheWell 02.02.12	^@system
devious 02.02.12	Feel the same way
Beachcoma 02.02.12	lets face it, U.S. sucks chimpanzee shit stained furry crusty old pedophile ball sack. plan to move out once i graduate college Will, you are not moving out of the country, don't even kid yourself.
AliW1993 02.02.12	I'm from the UK so don't have any first-hand experience, but I struggle to see why so many Americans have a problem with Obama. From the outside at least he seems to be doing a decent job. Anyone care to enlighten me?
ILJ 02.02.12	He didn't save the country and make us all millionaires, so he's automatically a bad president. No but really, he just didn't accomplish all that much. He's not bad, but he wasn't good either. And he most certainly isn't terrible like conservatives like to claim he is. He inherited a terrible mess and tried to fix it while working against a republican controlled congress which is never easy for a democrat. But on the other hand, he should have done more when the house was democrat controlled, so it's a double edged sword.
ILJ 02.02.12	* some conservatives at least
Crysis 02.02.12	"From the outside at least he seems to be doing a decent job. Anyone care to enlighten me?" Partisan politics and this delusion that Americans MUST either be Democrat or Republican is slowly tearing the country apart. Plus the fact that nearly all American's fail to understand that Congress are the ones fucking everything up, so instead they blame it all on the President. If Obama is re-elected, we will see all this happening again for another 4 years. Come the next President, the hate-mongering and asinine partisan vitriol will be hurled at him/her.
Maniac! 02.02.12	"Plus the fact that nearly all American's fail to understand that Congress are the ones fucking everything up, so instead they blame it all on the President." This so hard.
Beachcoma 02.02.12	no, im moving out. i might not get far at first, but jesus, canada is better than this. maybe go there. i like the cold, the north, the yankees. m/ Well, have fun in the cold while i'll be enjoying the warm sun in California m/
omnipanzer 02.02.12	"Looks like it's four more years of Obama." Thank God.
sniper 02.02.12	people are disappointed because obama was supposed to be a big change for the country. at the end of bush's second term people were just so unhappy they wanted a new president that was radically different. enter obama, who is liberal, ethnic, and most importantly, articulate. the problem is that the president is not in charge of the country, and obama has done no better than other presidents in the past at getting both parties to work together in congress and make changes. the system of making law in the usa is clunky as fuck, it takes forever, and then the public is frustrated because nothing has really changed since obama's election. i mean, he has pulled troops out of places in the middle east and publicized healthcare, but the economy is still in the shitter (not his fault) and unemployment is still high. if the economy picks up significantly in the next few months he has a shot at re-election, but otherwise the voters will swing back to the other extreme. americans (and people in general) are really reactionary, voting is no different. tl;dr? basically people expected too much of him. he's just the president, the president is powerless if they can't mobilize congress to make changes.
ILJ 02.02.12	Crysis and sniper just summed everything up perfectly. Damn it feels good to see some people make complete sense.
Crysis 02.02.12	Anyone who reads the Constitution will see that the President was granted very little power. The real driving force of change in America is the Legislature.
sniper 02.02.12	but if the economy in europe fails too, the world economy will collapse and of course we'll all be fucked, but obama will have no shot at all at being voted back in, although if gingrich or romney get voted in, they will be no better equipped to deal with the crisis than obama.
ILJ 02.02.12	@ Crysis Exactly. And the only thing Congressmen care about these days is all the money that lobbyists put in their pocket and how to get reelected.
sniper 02.02.12	yeah i don't even wanna start on what's wrong with how easily you can buy a vote in congress these days. fuck 'em, don't re-elect your representatives if they don't do what you want! do some fucking research, find out if they're making the decisions YOUR PEOPLE elected them to make. if not, fucking boot them, the government for for us.
Crysis 02.02.12	"do some fucking research, find out if they're making the decisions YOUR PEOPLE elected them to make." This right here coupled with the nature of the average American is why nothing will ever, ever be solved.
ILJ 02.02.12	But of course few will actually do that because that requires effort.
sniper 02.02.12	it's just so much easier to bitch about it than use your vote intelligently.
Knott- 02.02.12	"They both strike me as completely awful, moronic human beings." Perfect candidates for republican nominee, then!
sniper 02.02.12	but of course the other problem is that the alternatives to the people already in office are basically just the same fucking people with different faces. we need the change to happen at a legal level to get the fucking lobbyists out of washington, but guess who has the most interest in making sure that doesn't happen? oh yeah, the congressmen who are on the receiving end of all that lobbied money...
Crysis 02.02.12	The vicious cycle continues
ILJ 02.02.12	^^ and this is why we are all fucked
sniper 02.02.12	i'm not saying gingrich and romney aren't completely awful or that republicans don't tend to piss me off more than democrats, but neither party is looking out for the country anymore.
Crysis 02.02.12	Both parties are terrible and anyone who calls allegiance to one over the other is naive. But this all goes back to what I said before: "Partisan politics and this delusion that Americans MUST either be Democrat or Republican is slowly tearing the country apart."
sniper 02.02.12	123
ILJ 02.02.12	"Both parties are terrible and anyone who calls allegiance to one over the other is naive. But this all goes back to what I said before: "Partisan politics and this delusion that Americans MUST either be Democrat or Republican is slowly tearing the country apart." What we need is an independent president, or a president that isn't democrat or republican. Someone who might actually be able to WORK and COMPROMISE with both sides. But alas, that is merely a pipe dream...
Crysis 02.02.12	Good example: The last gubernatorial election here in Maine was decided by 10,000 votes, or less than 2%. The candidate who won is named Paul LePage, a tea party republican who has proven himself to be nothing short of an asshat. The candidate who lost (in 2nd place), named Eliot Cutler, was running as an independent who clearly had the people in mind (I voted for him). There was, however, a Democratic candidate named Libby Mitchell who got 19% of the vote (108,000 votes). If people had stopped sticking to partisan lines, it would have been easy for Cutler to get the 10,000 votes he would have needed to win, and an actual independent who had no party affiliation would have come in and pleased both conservatives and liberals alike. But that's not what happened.
sniper 02.02.12	tragic
ILJ 02.02.12	People that party line vote make me sick to my stomach. It doesn't show dedication to a party, it shows laziness because you don't want to take the time to actually research the facts yourself. Pathetic.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	"Partisan politics and this delusion that Americans MUST either be Democrat or Republican is slowly tearing the country apart." truer words were never spoken
Crysis 02.02.12	"tragic" Indeed it is. One of the first things he did while in office to bring jobs to the state was to hang up this: http://media.kjonline.com/images/410*578/LePage+Business+sign.jpg Needless to say it hasn't attracted any jobs.
ILJ 02.02.12	He thought making a sign would bring in jobs. What the actual fuck.
sniper 02.02.12	it's simultaneously hilarious and not at all funny.
Crysis 02.02.12	Yeah. It gets better. He lifted the ban on the toxic substance Bisphenol A, saying that: "The only thing that I’ve heard is if you take a plastic bottle and put it in the microwave and you heat it up, it gives off a chemical similar to estrogen. So the worst case is some women may have little beards....and we don't want that."
omnipanzer 02.02.12	"Anyone who reads the Constitution will see that the President was granted very little power. The real driving force of change in America is the Legislature." For those who wield the power appropriately and play by the rules sure.
Crysis 02.02.12	He also ordered the removal of a mural displaying working people from the department of labor because he received an anonymous fax saying “in communist North Korea they use these murals to brainwash the masses.”
Crysis 02.02.12	"For those who wield the power appropriately and play by the rules sure." Yeah I should have specified that because it's no longer a given.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	"it gives off a chemical similar to estrogen. So the worst case is some women may have little beards....and we don't want that." ummm what the actual fucking fuck
Crysis 02.02.12	That's a direct quote: http://bangordailynews.com/2011/02/22/politics/gov-lepage-dismisses-dangers-of-bpa/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/maine-gov-paul-lepage-on-_n_827208.html
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	holy shit, and i thought it was bad here in the south....
ILJ 02.02.12	Holy shit, that guy is pants-on-head retarded.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	"Maine Gov. Paul LePage On BPA: 'Worst Case Is Some Women May Have Little Beards'" I'd hate to bother the little fella with info about all the birth defects and shit.
Crysis 02.02.12	plus the fact that he doesn't know the difference between estrogen and testosterone
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	yeah thats what i was loling about specifically
omnipanzer 02.02.12	I admit I was to caught up in the single-mindedness of his statement to have caught that. ;^)
DraconForsaken 02.02.12	Crysis for president
Uranium 02.02.12	ron fucking paul. why are people so retarded....
ILJ 02.02.12	^ As in vote for him?
Uranium 02.02.12	if people actually wanted a candidate that isn't going to follow in obama and bush's shoes then yes.
Cells 02.02.12	Yeah im either voting for paul or obama and at looks of things its prbly gonna be the latter.
ILJ 02.02.12	I agree. I don't know enough about him to necessarily vote over Obama yet, but he's way better than Gingrich of Romney. That's for damn sure.
Cells 02.02.12	I like Paul. I like that he isnt letting religion drive his beliefs. He seems to be at least somewhat rational, not to mention he wants to legalize drugs so thats a plus :P
Crysis 02.02.12	Only thing I don't like about Paul is the fact that he is the fact that he's religious. But that's not a big deal if it doesn't affect his policy.
Uranium 02.02.12	Do some research on him. I feel (unbiased as possible) that he is a legit candidate. He has been running for years and his opinions dont change. He has great solutions to fixing our country. The media is so wrapped up in left wing right wing and america just buys right into completely shadowing any candidate who has worth and value.
Uranium 02.02.12	Romney is mormon. I can only imagine.
Tyrannic 02.02.12	I love people who get butthurt over the racist shit published in Paul's name. A tiny old man says some racist shit and forgets even saying it. Gotta love old people.
Crysis 02.02.12	Romney put his dog in a kennel on the roof of his car and then drove like 10 hours to Canada in the winter. That should be telling enough of his personality and beliefs.
ILJ 02.02.12	The media is so wrapped up in left wing right wing and america just buys right into completely shadowing any candidate who has worth and value. Raining cold hard facts in this bitch.
Vesper 02.02.12	Oh, my god, Crysis. Your governor made me cry, although I'm not sure whether the tears were from laughter or despair.
Crysis 02.02.12	It's really, really bad. The sad part is that many people think he's just what this state needs. Being in Maine is like being in the south intellectually but with lots of snow and cold.
someguest 02.02.12	It's like anything else in this country ILJAJLM, it's all about money. People with the deepest pockets will find their way into power. Those of us who are young adults are really left out in the cold with no one to vote for this election. Paul is okay I guess, but he doesn't have a chance in hell. Obama will be elected to a second term.
Uranium 02.02.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibZf7G3wjs
Vesper 02.02.12	"I love people who get butthurt over the racist shit published in Paul's name. A tiny old man says some racist shit and forgets even saying it." Uh, no, that is actually a problem. He either approved it or was so ignorant of both his associates and the content being published under his name that he shouldn’t be trusted to run the fucking country. Or he's senile and forgetful - also something of a disqualification.
ILJ 02.02.12	I can never decide whom I hate more; Gingrich or Romney. It's always so fun finding out new reasons to hate them.
Vesper 02.02.12	They're both bad candidates, but I think Gingrich, as a personality, is far more detestable than Romney. I love that the US has driven Democratic politicians to the ground for extramarital affairs (Bill Clinton, John Edwards and Anthony Weiner), as well as a black Republican candidate (Herman Cain) but when a white Republican does it, nope, business as usual.
someguest 02.02.12	Where's my asian option for President?
ILJ 02.02.12	Especially a man who claims to be about family values and "guarding the sanctity of marriage"
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	Not voting for any of these cocksuckers, in fact I think i'll go piss on a ballot or thirteen and turn them in to the fuckheads running the show.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	Vesper for President!
Vesper 02.02.12	You just know everyone will start accusing me of being a Communist.
someguest 02.02.12	"You just know everyone will start accusing me of being a Communist." Change your attire then, Ms. Trenchcoat.
Vesper 02.02.12	But I can't change the shape of my eyes or the color of my skin, and that's all 75% of American voters seem to give a shit about.
someguest 02.02.12	I don't know what you mean Ms. Mao.
Crysis 02.02.12	"You just know everyone will start accusing me of being a Communist." Except those who actually know what communism is. Which is almost nobody, but still. And agreed about the race thing.
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	Would love to show up to vote in Nazi gear, see what happens.
Vesper 02.02.12	lol someguest And, no, andcas, but I'll keep that in mind if I ever start a hardcore band, haha. Exactly, Crysis. The birthers would be coming after me, saying I'm actually the spawn of Mao implanted in Kim Jong Il's womb then secretly transported across the border to South Korea, because looks Asian = is Chinese = is Communist.
devious 02.02.12	Dnor Loves Vesper
Crysis 02.02.12	"Asian = is Chinese = is Communist" it's sad to think that this is actually people's thought process
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	Asians eat cats and dogs. True story.
Trebor. 02.02.12	I used to
Maniac! 02.02.12	You mean asians aren't inherently communist?
Trebor. 02.02.12	Japan is capitalist as fuck
Vesper 02.02.12	""Asian = is Chinese" Well, this bit is quite common, especially as a lot of guys seem to think asking what your ethnic background is a form of flirting. The Communist/collectivist speculation only comes in if you're in a position of power, because then, clearly, we can't have this business of someone's beliefs possibly infringing on the Constitutional rights of the people!
Vesper 02.02.12	"Asians eat cats and dogs. True story." My parents have eaten dog and grasshoppers, too, I think. Also silk worm larvae. :>
Trebor. 02.02.12	What's the difference between eating cats and dogs, and pigs and cows, like who the fuck cares
Vesper 02.02.12	^^^ Western ideas about what animals and animal bits are appropriate.
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	My local asian buffet sells chicken feet.
Vesper 02.02.12	Tell me you wouldn't want this for a pet: http://cutestlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tiny_pig_nose-600x4381.jpg
DarkNoctus 02.02.12	i want a pet skunk :[
Recspecs 02.02.12	Agree with everyone in this thread who pinned it on Congress, not Obama. Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are both asshats, but Romney is damn better by a mile. I'll probably end up voting for Obama if I vote at all.
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	They all look alike. Never let your guard around an Asian, those sneaky bastards will come in and knock you on your ass.
Vesper 02.02.12	"but then it gets big and turns into hans." That was perfect, andcas.
Trebor. 02.02.12	Pigs are really cool, and they're smarter than cats and dogs
Recspecs 02.02.12	Once you go Asian, you never miss an equation.
Trebor. 02.02.12	I don't think I've ever had ham
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	Watch out for dolphins, they'll rape you.
Recspecs 02.02.12	You've never had ham? Missing out.
Vesper 02.02.12	Personal experience in Florida, Balls?
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	Nope, however they're a big reason why I haven't been out on a boat in years or go out into the ocean for that matter. Dolphins and jellyfish fuck that shit. http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/63173
Vesper 02.02.12	Lol. I was mostly making a reference to the Miami team, but I guess there's fictional dolphin rape too...
Recspecs 02.02.12	Jellyfish can fuck a nigga up.
BallsToTheWall 02.02.12	http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_the-6-cutest-animals-that-can-still-destroy-you.html Yeah dude It was beginning of my senior year when that shit happened. Pretty lame. I mean I made plenty of jokes but still that sucked.
ILJ 02.02.12	How did this evolve into an animal thread. I guess it's better than rage inducing politics though.
Trebor. 02.02.12	Honey Badgers fucking rule
omnipanzer 02.02.12	"But I can't change the shape of my eyes or the color of my skin, and that's all 75% of American voters seem to give a shit about." Uuuuh plastic surgery?
ILJ 02.02.12	Honey badger doesn't give a FUCK
Vesper 02.02.12	Lol, omni. You know what I mean. "How did this evolve into an animal thread." Because people started talking about Asians eating non-Western approved animals. :P
omnipanzer 02.02.12	Like dog.... ? Certain Mediterranean cultures like Horse.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	if you can eat a dog you can eat a homeless person
omnipanzer 02.02.12	I hear we taste like chicken...
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	in all seriousness though if i were offered to eat cooked human flesh with no repercussions i would do it
Vesper 02.02.12	Yeah, dog is an approved meat in South Korea, but they're raised for consumption just like all the other animals we eat in the US. Humans probably taste like shit.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	I probably would too. The phrase taboo has very little meaning to me really.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	idk with a nice glaze i think wed be pretty tasty
omnipanzer 02.02.12	Dogs probably taste like shit.
UnnamedOcean 02.02.12	I would love to leave this country, but considering this is where my life is, I can't just abandon it.
ILJ 02.02.12	Hype, that's terrible. And so am I. So long as the person the meat came from didn't suffer or die against their will or something.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	^^ Excuses
Auschwitz 02.02.12	theyre the two worst candidates ive ever seen (other than bush maybe) and anyone who votes for them is probably a fucking moron.
ILJ 02.02.12	*anyone who votes for them is a fucking moron. FIFY
Vesper 02.02.12	"idk with a nice glaze i think wed be pretty tasty" "Dogs probably taste like shit." Just put a nice glaze on it, omni. (My point has more to do with the diet of the animal and how it's raised for the meat to have a good taste/texture. I imagine "wild" human meat would have an awful texture, no speaking for the taste.) And now, cannibalism on Sputnik!
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	if your eating a person chances are they probably died against their will thats their problem though not mine
Trebor. 02.02.12	Yeah, the meat has to be fresh
omnipanzer 02.02.12	Everyone knows that we Whites taste like Macaroni & Cheese.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	asians taste like sesame chicken
Vesper 02.02.12	Excuse me? Fuck that shit, Koreans taste like kalbi.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	When you eat them your hungry again in an hour. Noone here a Tosh fan.
Recspecs 02.02.12	Africans have no taste, because they eat nothing. It would be like eating drywall and washing it down with diseased piss.
Hyperion1001 02.02.12	way to go too far bro
Trebor. 02.02.12	lol
Recspecs 02.02.12	I'm black it's okay. Haha.
omnipanzer 02.02.12	*line crossed
Recspecs 02.02.12	I didn't cross any line, I just let everyone know that I am thinking daily of my ancestors people and of their daily struggles with food, water, AIDS, civil wars, etc.
newjunkaesthetic93 02.02.12	RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crymsonblaze 02.02.12	Voting for Obama; like not even a remotely difficult decision.
KjSwantko 02.02.12	I'm really surprised Ron Paul hasn't stepped into the limelight....I agree with listmaker- I don't want any of them President; probably won't vote.
sniper 02.03.12	paul would be okay even though he's a nut job because he has sensible social beliefs (except i disagree with his abortion views) and his crazy ideas about foreign policy will be checked by congress anyway so in theory he might increase social liberties (or at least let the states do it) and be unable to do any damage, so yeah, i'm voting for paul in the primary in california, but i won't vote for him in november.
ILJ 02.03.12	It's official. Obama 2012.
Hyperion1001 02.03.12	you do realize that if you let the states determine social liberties the entire south will become a theocracy right?
Recspecs 02.03.12	The South will be run by the Baptist church, as it essentially already is.