south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | I'm looking into Summoning's "Oathbound" or whatever right now. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | Summoning isn't black metal though. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | metal-archives says: Epic/Atmospheric Black Metal |
Tyler
08.03.07 | It's still not really black metal. It's amazing but yeah. Their earlier work maybe but it's mostly just really epic metal now. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | hailz. and Summoning is pretty black metal, more older summoning. don't be a dumbass Cocaine, you're sorta smarter then that. |
Eakflanderyof
08.03.07 | I fail to see how Summoning isn't black metal. It is cause they don't have the typical drumming. Black metal bands are allowed to think outside the box too. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | Well, black metal or not, it looked interesting so I'm going for it. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | Crav even Silenius, inarguably the biggest Summoning fan on the site, widely acknowledges that they're not black metal.
Just because they have roots in the genre doesn't mean they're necessarily a part of it. It has nothing to do with "thinking outside the box", it has to do with them growing beyond the genre. |
Ominous Inane
08.03.07 | Drudkh are fucking sweet, i need to buy some of their stuff, dude check out some early blut aus nord, basically burzum on 7 strings. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | what are you talking about, Blut Aus Nord is basically just a bunch of distortion and shit like that now. Ultima Thulee I guess could be considered a little Burzum-esque, only paired with really, really lame ass keyboard parts. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | Cocaine, you fail to see that any argument with me is an inevitable attempt to prove you're not stupid.
If you want to get into Summoning, I'd start with DOl Gulders or LMHSYF before anything else. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | You're far too ignorant to be that arrogant Crav. Just because you sit on Metal Archives jacking off to side-projects all day doesn't mean you have the slightest clue.
If you need proof of just how dense you really are, you don't have to look any further than "any argument with me is an inevitable attempt to prove you're not stupid".
Nice syntax, kid. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | You have no back up to your rants, you fail. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | You have horrible syntax and your band sucks. You fail more. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | Alright knock it off you 2 srsly. Back to black metal/this list discussion |
Ominous Inane
08.03.07 | I just got Ultima Thulee today and its the only blut aus nord album i have and i find it to be quite similar to burzum, the clean guitar and key parts are fucking sweet. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | South I have a link to an amazing black metal band out of toronto. real 80s inspired shit; no lame ass tremelo picking that goes on for too long, heavy as fuck riffs, blablabla.
y/n? it's impossible to hate. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | Um, how can I refuse?
Yes plz |
Tyler
08.03.07 | Lacrosseguy11@roadrunner.com is your email? you're not on aim from what I can tell, and i dont want to post it here. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.03.07 | yeah, but I'm not sure what firewall is up on the roadrunner one...send it to:
Lacrosseguy48@hotmail.com
I'll download it tom. since I need some sleep right now...thanks Cocaine! |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | my level of care for anything you say is a level -4.5 you silly douche. |
Tyler
08.03.07 | even when he trolls he hands out 4.5s like nothing. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | d00de, you figured out my diabolical sch3m3!!!!!11111 |
Apocalyptic Raids
08.03.07 | lol @ cravinovs arrogance |
Silenius
08.03.07 | Lugburz is the only black metal Summoning release. Trust me. :) |
BallsToTheWall
08.03.07 | 1 and 5 are sick. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | I'd have to disagree with you Silenius, no matter how mcuh their sound has changed I can still call it some form of black metal cause that's what it is at the root of all the synths. |
Cravinov13
08.03.07 | Nightshade Forest ftw. |
Dethtrasher
08.03.07 | Good list, I really need to check out #2. |
Eakflanderyof
08.03.07 | I still fail to see how Summoning isn't black metal, Cocaine. You had nothing to back your statement besides, "Silenius agrees with me." I've listened to enough black metal to know what it is. I don't care if Silenius has heard slightly more. Summoning has low production, higher pitched screechy vocals, and atmospheric keyboards. It's epic black metal and I don't see how anyone could have the idea that it isn't.
I want you to post some real evidence of Summoning not being black metal because I have yet to see any. |
Crysis
08.03.07 | Summoning is Black Metal for sure, you'd have to be deaf not to notice how many characteristics of Black Metal it has. There is just a lot of keyboards and synths mixed in. |
Eakflanderyof
08.03.07 | Synths and keys are also common traits of black metal, though, too. Just look at Emperor and Burzum. I also forgot to mention that Summoning has the repetition that black metal usually has. |
Thor
08.03.07 | South is my favorite user
Cocaine wins the argument
Crav is a big faggot
the end.
black metal is pretty cool. |
Silenius
08.03.07 | The vocals are in the black metal style. So are the guitars (sometimes). That's it. The synths are not black metal at all, rather more orchestral and neo-classical in melody, creating a soundtrack type mood. Listen to Lost Tales. Lost Tales is not black metal. All other Summoning releases are exactly the same as Lost Tales except with guitar and vocals, which is what confuses people. |
south_of_heaven 11
08.04.07 | Hey Thor ole buddy! |
Eakflanderyof
08.04.07 | How are the keyboards not black metal? Because they're epic? That's dunb. Their keyboard parts aren't even neo-classical. Calling Summoning neo-classical is like calling Ensiferum neo-classical. Just because a band isn't just standard black metal like Darkthrone doesn't mean they're not black metal. And how are the guitars only sometimes black metal? Everything is black metal except for the unusual drumming. Gold forbid a black metal band experiment.
And I fail to see how Cocaine wins the argument when he didn't even put up an argument. Oh yea, it's because you guys are both approved and therefore have to support each other. |
aryan0219
08.22.07 | My take on this lists comments:
I have never heard summoning,
I agree with 90% of Souths taste in music
Cocaine seems to be one of the more knowledgable and articulate users on this site
I instantly like Thor for his assessment of this sites most arrogant little boy, Cravinov |
