NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | WTF is up with the artwork?
BTW 21 isn't really BAD, just disappointing. |
ShousoStrip
12.06.11 | List is so hxc n metal |
Dday
12.06.11 | 12 is aoty |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | 19 was wrong. Fixed. |
SpiritCrusher2
12.06.11 | you really think 2 is ahead of its time? why? |
FruityCatOfDoom
12.06.11 | Fuck 2011 |
FruityCatOfDoom
12.06.11 | jk but fuck emmure |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "you really think 2 is ahead of its time? why?"
Diversity, and the way in which it blends technicality with brutality.
"jk but fuck emmure"
+1 |
AfterTheBreakdown
12.06.11 | 12 is horrible man. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "12 is horrible man."
Indeed. It sounds like a joke. |
AfterTheBreakdown
12.06.11 | It had to have been a joke no other explanation for it. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "It had to have been a joke no other explanation for it. "
Given that Metal Maniacs has recently featured them, I seriously want to know what's so funny in the said joke so that they actually have an inch of coverage. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | Dude, did you just call Limp Bizkit "mallcore?" Do you even know what you're talking about?
Deleting this comment won't make me go away. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Dude, did you just call Limp Bizkit 'mallcore?' Do you even know what you're talking about?"
Oh, sorry, my great sir FrankRedHot, how could I commit such a horrible mistake...
/sarcasm
Are you implying that LB are NOT mallcore? As I want to laugh a bit, explain your position. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Are you implying that LB are NOT mallcore? As I want to laugh a bit, explain your position."
Dude, mallcore is "scene metal," most of it metalcore. Limp Bizkit isn't mallcore. There is a difference, you fucktard. |
Divine
12.06.11 | NO NWOAHM666!!! |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Dude, mallcore is 'scene metal,' most of it metalcore. Limp Bizkit isn't mallcore. There is a difference, you fucktard."
DUDE...mallcore is commercial crap that mallcore kids (i.e. 12-year-old pseudo-tough guys who don't know who Tom G. Warrior is) listen to, often drawing more from pop/rap than metal.
Say whatever you want but most people will agree with me and will define LB as mallcore.
"Limp Bizkit isn't mallcore."
*faints*
LB are the very definition of mallcore. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "DUDE...mallcore is commercial crap that mallcore kids (i.e. 12-year-old pseudo-tough guys who don't know who Tom G. Warrior is) listen to, often drawing more from pop/rap than metal."
Where in the fuck did you get that definition?
"Say whatever you want but most people will agree with me and will define LB as mallcore."
Just like everyone on here agreed with you on everything else, right?
WRONG
"*faints*
LB are the very definition of mallcore"
I'm still struggling to understand where you get your information. You call LB mallcore, and you call Converge mallcore. Converge don't draw from pop/rap at all. You also said Converge had "whiny vocals." |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | I mean, seriously, which style of music is it gonna be? Metalcore or rap-metal? You can't have both. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Converge don't draw from pop/rap at all."
Read what I type please.
"OFTEN drawing more from pop/rap than metal"
Converge are mallcore because they sound whiny, their lyrics suck and all their general sound apart from a song or two is total false metal. THAT's why they're mallcore.
"Just like everyone on here agreed with you on everything else, right?"
Go to a place where people don't say that progressive metal is more extreme than thrash metal and then ask questions.
Need anything else? I'm available to clarify you.
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NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "I mean, seriously, which style of music is it gonna be? Metalcore or rap-metal? You can't have both."
It can be both. As you probably know some mallcore tried to disguise itself as mallcore when metalcore became popular.
P.S.: Never say "rap-metal". It's "rap-rock". Always. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "It can be both. As you probably know some mallcore tried to disguise itself as metalcore when the latter became popular."
Epic fail, now fixed.
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FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Converge are mallcore because they sound whiny, their lyrics suck and all their general sound apart from a song or two is total false metal. THAT's why they're mallcore."
Doesn't make any sense, so I can't allow it.
"Go to a place where people don't say that progressive metal is more extreme than thrash metal and then ask questions."
UMMMM.... WHAT?!?! Lol
So, mallcore(to you), is either hip-hop/pop inspired metal or whiny vocals?
Dude's full of contradictions. This is why I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about. You made all of this up in your mind somewhere along the first 18-19 years of your life, and it's so ingrained that you believe it to be fact. Time to open up your eyes, buttercup, because you're way too far off the reservation.
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FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | '"It can be both. As you probably know some mallcore tried to disguise itself as metalcore when the latter became popular."'
WHAT?!?! Dude, nothing you're saying is making any sense. Mallcore disguised itself as metalcore? What in the fuck are you even talking about? |
coneren
12.06.11 | here goes pit with his words again. use numbers |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "So, mallcore(to you), is either hip-hop/pop inspired metal or whiny vocals?"
Mallcore is false metal. It can assume those two shapes.
"Dude's full of contradictions. This is why I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about. You made all of this up in your mind somewhere along the first 18-19 years of your life, and it's so ingrained that you believe it to be fact."
Go to an actual metal forum, people will tell you the same thing. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Go to an actual metal forum, people will tell you the same thing."
I've been to actual metal forums, and when "mallcore" is brought up, I've never seen LB's name once. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "I've been to actual metal forums, and when 'mallcore' is brought up, I've never seen LB's name once."
Okay. Then just do the very same thing, just when actually awake. Trust me. |
coneren
12.06.11 | pit whip out your wiener |
botb
12.06.11 | read nwoahm666 list, laugh at selections
scroll down to comments
commence facepalm |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Okay. Then just do the very same thing, just when actually awake. Trust me."
Just because it's not what metalheads enjoy doesn't mean it's mallcore, you idiot. And false metal? Really? Look at your ratings. How many "true" metalheads can you tell me would think of any Hatebreed or Slipknot releases as "classics?" If anything, you don't have a clue what real metal is. Real metal fans would laugh in your face if you said that Slipknot was "real metal." They'd laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth. |
coneren
12.06.11 | is it out yet |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Just because it's not what metalheads enjoy doesn't mean it's mallcore, you idiot. And false metal? Really? Look at your ratings. How many "true" metalheads can you tell me would think of any Hatebreed or Slipknot releases as "classics?" If anything, you don't have a clue what real metal is. Real metal fans would laugh in your face if you said that Slipknot was "real metal." They'd laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth."
Dude, I know who I am. I sometimes wished not to, but I know who I am. Your refusal of the mallcoreness of LB is far, far, far, FAAAAR more embarrassing than calling "classics" to a pair of albums released by a band that, despite everything you may say, have their roots in true extreme metal. I never called myself "THE MOST TRVE VNERGROVND METALHEAD EVER!". Nor I ever will. And lemme just point out that I like how you say "hurr durr real metal fans would laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth if you said that Slipknot was 'real metal'". Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing? |
coneren
12.06.11 | oh man now it is out |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Dude, I know who I am. I sometimes wished not to, but I know who I am. Your refusal of the mallcoreness of LB is far, far, far, FAAAAR more embarrassing than calling "classics" to a pair of albums released by a band that, despite everything you may say, have their roots in true extreme metal. I never called myself "THE MOST TRVE VNERGROVND METALHEAD EVER!". Nor I ever will. And lemme just point out that I like how you say "hurr durr real metal fans would laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth if you said that Slipknot was 'real metal'". Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing?"
So you mock false metal but listen to it? That seems pretty hypocritical to me.
"Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing?"
Because any true metalhead wouldn't listen to that bullshit and think it's "extreme metal." Slipknot has all of their music rooted in nu-metal, with hip-hop/rap influences(MALLCORE BY YOUR DEFINITION, RIGHT?). Hatebreed is breakdowns on top of breakdowns on top of breakdowns, which true metalheads scoff at. Seriously, bro, just admit defeat and move on. |
coneren
12.06.11 | oh baby |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "So you mock false metal but listen to it? That seems pretty hypocritical to me."
No, you're extrapolating what I say.
"Slipknot has all of their music rooted in nu-metal, with hip-hop/rap influences(MALLCORE BY YOUR DEFINITION, RIGHT?). "
Biggest laughs ever. NONE of Slipknot's music is rooted in nu-metal. Their turntables have a more industrial feel to it (except on some moments of s/t). Rapping? Following your definition Burn My Eyes-era Machine Head is mallcore - there is mild rapping in "A Thousand Lies" and "Block". And RATM, too. How do I justify these bands not being mallcore? Because RATM never tried to be metal at all and Machine had like 0.1% of rap influence.
Now go listen to Iowa and All Hope Is Gone. Or do as you advised me, and make your research about the band's roots.
"Hatebreed is breakdowns on top of breakdowns on top of breakdowns, which true metalheads scoff at. Seriously, bro, just admit defeat and move on."
Not wanting to deny you but their later stuff is less like that. Plus (and yes, you may consider this a defeat) I don't really listen to Hatebreed since Summer. |
coneren
12.06.11 | aw yeah |
Relinquished
12.06.11 | LOL what turntables give it a industrial feel to it?
do you even listen to industr- scratch that do you even know what industrial is. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "LOL what turntables give it a industrial feel to it?"
It's far closer from industrial than rap.
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coneren
12.06.11 | oh shit |
Relinquished
12.06.11 | what industrial would you compare the turntable playing to |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | "Biggest laughs ever. NONE of Slipknot's music is rooted in nu-metal. Their turntables have a more industrial feel to it (except on some moments of s/t)."
Are you fucking serious? Lol Slipknot's music is ALL nu metal. Industrial? Do you even know what industrial is?
"Following your definition Burn My Eyes-era Machine Head is mallcore - there is mild rapping in "A Thousand Lies" and "Block". "
My definition? Now you're really twisted up. That was YOUR definition, remember? Here, let me refresh your memory:
"DUDE...mallcore is commercial crap that mallcore kids (i.e. 12-year-old pseudo-tough guys who don't know who Tom G. Warrior is) listen to, often drawing more from pop/rap than metal."
That was YOUR definition of mallcore, not mine. Make up your mind.
"And RATM, too. How do I justify these bands not being mallcore? Because RATM never tried to be metal at all and Machine had like 0.1% of rap influence."
Did you just say that RATM didn't "try" to be metal? My god, bro. What in the fuck are you smoking, and what in the fuck are you listening to?
"Not wanting to deny you but their later stuff is less like that. Plus (and yes, you may consider this a defeat) I don't really listen to Hatebreed since Summer."
You still have that garbage as a 5, moron.
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NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "what industrial would you compare the turntable playing to"
From the top of my head, I would say Godflesh (because they're cited by the band as an influence) but TBH I haven't heard them enough time yet to actually decide so. But if you pay attention (especially on their post-s/t output) there is a vibe in the turntables that sounds a lot more like plain sampling than actual scratching. |
coneren
12.06.11 | oh fuck |
Metamorphosis
12.06.11 | Anyone who makes a list about metal and proceeds to call Converge "Mallcore" are automatically disqualified from having valid lists. |
Relinquished
12.06.11 | Sounds NOTHING like Godflesh. and you obviously haven't heard enough rap and hip-hop to make these assumptions. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Sounds NOTHING like Godflesh. and you obviously haven't heard enough rap and hip-hop to make these assumptions."
I didn't say straight-up "oh yes, it sounds like Godflesh". I expressed doubt. And yes, I've heard plenty of rap in my life, some decent, some indecent. And they don't use turntables as in industrial samplings.
(other than industrial rap but I've never heard that) |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | So sampling=industrial?
I guess Diddy's been trolling us all of these years. |
ITsHxCTOASTER
12.06.11 | Wow NWOAHM666 is a dummy
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coneren
12.06.11 | uh oh |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "So sampling=industrial?"
Sampling ~_ industrial.
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FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | No, it doesn't you fool. Hip-hop producers use as much sampling as everyone else. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "No, it doesn't you fool. Hip-hop producers use as much sampling as everyone else."
Thanks a lot for including "EVERYONE ELSE" in your sentence. I win. You may now leave me alone, I like solitude. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | How does that justify what you said? Lol you made the blanket statement twice that the use of sampling means that the music is industrial. I proved you wrong, and you unknowingly credited me for it. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Lol you made the blanket statement twice that the use of sampling means that the music is industrial. I proved you wrong, and you unknowingly credited me for it."
Say whatever you want but 'blanket statement' will forever remain an oxymoron for me.
Oh, and you didn't prove me wrong. You proved me not entirely right, and yourself wrong. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | You apparently don't know what an oxymoron is. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "You apparently don't know what an oxymoron is."
Complain, and I'll explain. |
botb
12.06.11 | whats your favorite industrial album
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oh thatd have to be iowa |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "whats your favorite industrial album
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oh thatd have to be iowa"
The Downward Spiral. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | So blanket statement is an oxymoron? Ugh..... I know you're not American, but that's pathetic. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | "Ugh..... I know you're not American, but that's pathetic."
Why? And what have the Un...wait, is that a joke about Clinton? |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | Wow. Just fucking wow. This is sad. I honestly feel bad for you. You can't complete a thought, you don't know what you're saying, and you refuse to open your mind up to the possibility that you're wrong. You're going to be one of those people that refuse to evacuate because you believe the storm won't be so bad, despite the 8,000,000 reports that say otherwise. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | What now? Explain yourself. |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | Why should I have to explain it for you? Look at all of your lists where everyone is telling you that you don't know what you're talking about. |
Hyperion1001
12.06.11 | oh man oh god |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | Ha. So what? |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | Don't say "so what" when you've been arguing with everyone yourself. Don't act like you don't care, because this thread is obvious proof that yoi do. |
NWOAHM666
12.06.11 | Then what do you want me to do? Then what do you want me to act like?
I'm tired and it's late here. I'm going to bed and I'll think about your case tomorrow. |
coneren
12.06.11 | oh shit |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | I feel bad for whatever poor child you reproduce, if that is even a possibility. That kid is gonna grow up with so much false information. He won't survive past 25. |
coneren
12.06.11 | holy fuck |
Divine
12.06.11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNsADgmCuJk |
Hyperion1001
12.06.11 | oh damn |
coneren
12.06.11 | aww shit |
Hyperion1001
12.06.11 | oh no |
AsoTamaki
12.06.11 | ITT: Trolls being trolled by a troll while trying to troll a troll. |
coneren
12.06.11 | oh fuck |
FrankRedHot
12.06.11 | Aso, you're fucking retarded if you think this is a troll. |
coneren
12.06.11 | holy shit |
Sevhead
12.18.11 | good 'ol intellectual metalheads |
