Haz
11.10.11 | http://soundcloud.com/harrydoble/sets/romance-2011
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PQ1WKFL3
also using this to pimp my ridiculous album
have at it my sputnik brethren |
Maniac!
11.10.11 | Zah |
Haz
11.10.11 | also the r thing has infected lists too
bad enough it's rampant when I try and leave soundoffs |
accompliceofmydeath
11.10.11 | I agree on the genre thing, but I could see a huge genre fight happening all day every day. Not that there aren't now... |
balcaen
11.10.11 | this could all be fixed if jom sold the site to someone who actually wanted to maintain it... |
AlonsoHarris
11.10.11 | amaterish |
stranger
11.10.11 | "this could all be fixed if jom sold the site to someone who actually wanted to maintain it..."
not sure if srs |
Ovrot
11.10.11 | i like this list
need doom genre tags |
Haz
11.10.11 | "amaterish"
rthe rbe |
Deviant.
11.10.11 | Do I wanna see more diversity with the genres? Yes
Do I want people on here to turn this into RYM or last fm by tagging artists with the wrong genres? No |
Satellite
11.10.11 | jomx |
Sowing
11.10.11 | list actually brings up a few good points imo although i dont know how much of this has a realistic chance of being implemented |
Satellite
11.10.11 | "a shoutbox on artist pages"
yeah, this would turn out well |
Haz
11.10.11 | "Do I want people on here to turn this into RYM or last fm by tagging artists with the wrong genres? No"
as opposed to the benefits of tagging artists with the right genres? which isn't really happening now.... |
Thane
11.10.11 | i like the shoutbox on band pages idea |
anarchistfish
11.10.11 | "The only way to ensure a successful upload is to use a 200 x 200 .jpg"
*png
I find it weird that Pop music has a whole section to itself but Electronic doesn't |
Emim
11.10.11 | "I like this new band with screaming vocals in it, but what should I call it? Screamo." |
Haz
11.10.11 | very rarely are artists tagged the wrong genres on RYM
last.fm is full of all kinds of bullshit, yeah. but it's not as tightly controlled |
Aids
11.10.11 | I can't wait to start tagging stuff as "post-drumstep and "psydub" just to watch Deviant go fucking nuts |
anarchistfish
11.10.11 | I started a screamo station on last.fm and if it weren't for the fact that I didn't know any better either a year ago I would've cried |
Deviant.
11.10.11 | "as opposed to the benefits of tagging artists with the right genres? which isn't really happening now...."
Yeah I know, but I wouldn't want it open for anyone to attempt to fuck around with the genres (Norse Gangsta). Maybe database mods, idk |
EyesWideShut
11.10.11 | how about a way to delete your entire ratings with a click.
and a way to see what genre the artist is from the rating page. |
Deviant.
11.10.11 | "very rarely are artists tagged the wrong genres on RYM"
Bullshit |
AlonsoHarris
11.10.11 | You know at first I thought you were claiming your album was RIDICULOUS as in rediculously good, but now i see that its just rediculous |
Ovrot
11.10.11 | featured |
FearThyEvil
11.10.11 | Wow, this got featured. I agree a lot with 1 because I hate seeing being labeled as metal progressive instead of progressive metal just because you can't use metal second. |
Uranium
11.10.11 | The worst part of sputnik is how the majority of users have turned this site into an internet highschool which is pretty gay. Everything else is legit. |
Days of Future Passed
11.10.11 | How about making electronica a main tab on the homepage? idk |
Emim
11.10.11 | Can't wait for the genre of Melodic Extreme Metal |
Deviant.
11.10.11 | "How about making electronica a main tab on the homepage? idk"
URRRRRGGGHHH |
Nagrarok
11.10.11 | All valid points and things that annoy me up to a certain level, disagree with the idea of shoutboxes on artist pages though.
'how the majority of users have turned this site into an internet highschool'
But yeah, this is the worst part. |
Haz
11.10.11 | "Bullshit"
it's a kind of subjective thing but I find RYM is a top notch indicator of genre nonetheless. the
lesser tags may be debatable, but are generally understandable at least.
the bottom line is that it shits all over here. |
auberginedreams
11.10.11 | i don't see why we can't just take the "a" off of the "electronica" tag. it seems like it would take like two seconds. |
Adabelle
11.10.11 | When do we get the charts back? |
Aids
11.10.11 | Nagarok what the hell you bitch
I'm telling teacher |
auberginedreams
11.10.11 | also, i've seen a lot of stuff mislabeled of rym, but it's generally more accurate than sputnik since the genre labels are far too vague here. last.fm is a mess though, it has the opposite problem the sputnik does, way too many random overly specific genres. |
Satellite
11.10.11 | "an internet highschool which is pretty gay"
oh, okay |
Haz
11.10.11 | "i don't see why we can't just take the "a" off of the "electronica" tag. it seems like it would take like two seconds."
it would
electronic music elitists must unite on this issue. we're here, we're queer, and.... APPLES!!!!!!!!!!! |
Haz
11.10.11 | "also, i've seen a lot of stuff mislabeled of rym, but it's generally more accurate than sputnik since the genre labels are far too vague here. last.fm is a mess though, it has the opposite problem the sputnik does, way too many random overly specific genres."
1, 2, 3 |
zxlkho
11.10.11 | 5: Users
Most of them suck. |
Scoot
11.10.11 | pot/kettle |
jefflebowski
11.10.11 | also, I find it faintly ridiculous that the pie charts incorporate a ridiculous number of metal subgenres (deathcore, grind, metalcore, black metal, death metal, thrash, etc) while a massive amount of really disparate music gets shoved under 'alt/indie' |
foxblood
11.10.11 | "a shoutbox on artist pages"
cool idea |
Spare
11.10.11 | the home page could use some work too tbh. the way summaries are cut off at some arbitrary point with "........" even though there's a character limit on summaries anyway is really stupid. also don't see the reason why the name of the album can't come up in the staff reviews section. also how fucking hard could it be to add half stars |
foxblood
11.10.11 | i agree jefflebowski, way too much is lumped with alt/indie. grind isn't under metal though |
Spare
11.10.11 | also rym tagging of genres is a good idea i think, and the artist page shoutboxes would be fun but almost definitely abused |
qwe3
11.11.11 | sup plow |
Cipieron
11.11.11 | site needs more porn |
Poet
11.11.11 | HAZ FOR STAFF! |
klap
11.11.11 | oh my god genres who gives a fuck |
Haz
11.11.11 | "HAZ FOR STAFF!"
I was already a forum mod I don't think they could handle me.
"sup plow"
nm just got back from the gym working on my novel
"site needs more porn"
THIS |
Acanthus
11.11.11 | 1's very true, it becomes very sad when you have to settle for broad tags that really don't fit well. |
Kimm
11.11.11 | Why don't we go one step further and just call everything "music".
Then there's no conflict, right? |
Haz
11.11.11 | but then we've got to define music
and that's a clusterfuck of things people will take exception to right there |
wabbit
11.11.11 | staff reviews should have optional ratings. |
Rev
11.11.11 | FUCKING SERVERS |
UnnamedOcean
11.11.11 | Artists shoutboxes wouldn't bee too bad of an idea. |
liledman
11.11.11 | artist shoutboxes would be cool, but hit and miss depending on the band/artist. trolls etc.
fixing the bugs and having a more efficient list system would be nice. |
elephantREVOLUTION
11.11.11 | "Just look at the various artist and soundtrack pages for evidence things are organised haphazardly, and poorly. "
yeah, that's always been my biggest problem with the database. i would really like to see compilations and splits done more like rym. |
witchxrapist
11.11.11 | Yeah, no deathcore genre is my major qualm. |
witchxrapist
11.11.11 | What really pisses me off is that at least some moderating staff gets mad at users when they make suggestions... like really? |
mvood
11.11.11 | I agree with the whole list, where do i sign |
witchxrapist
11.11.11 | You sign my ass cheeks, bitch. |
witchxrapist
11.11.11 | Yo on the real I'm gonna dirty touch Chan. |
mvood
11.11.11 | "You sign my ass cheeks, bitch."
seeing as it's for a good cause, bend ova hoe |
aok
11.11.11 | 1. a better artist search:
anyone else struggle with the search sometimes?
if you search for 'mumford and sons' , you get no results. if you search for 'simon & garfunkel' , you get no results. i mean, eventually i can find a workaround, but a better artist search would make things easier to go through, especially considering poiint 3 and the fact that sometimes, missing a letter or using an alternate spelling of the artist doesn't even suggest the proper one ..
2. The list thing like you said. the other 3 i don't personally care about, but i see your points
3. 'FUCKING SERVERS' [2] . i mean, i know these things cost money, but i'm sure you could find investors who won't compromise how the site is run
4. i still love this site so these are just suggestions and i wouldn't mind programing some of these things myself if no one else has time to |
porch
11.11.11 | the numerous little bugs like the word 'union' not showing up in band names or lists are annoying, especially when they should be easy to fix |
mvood
11.11.11 | some band pages are broken as well, i.e HORSE the Band show's as an error |
Aids
11.11.11 | delete the union |
Voivod
11.11.11 | One thing you are forgetting Haz is that mx, Willie, Jom and the rest of the staff are doing what they are doing in Sputnik on their free time and for free.
I agree that Sputnik isn't perfect, but what is in this vain world??? |
PurpleDino
11.11.11 | judging by the fact it took at least half a year to fix the charts I doubt any of this will happen in immediacy but I largely agree with your suggestions
"The worst part of sputnik is how the majority of users have turned this site into an internet highschool" x1000000 |
demon of surveillance
11.11.11 | Haha DTP finally got changed when somebody else tries to change it to just progressive. Haters gonna hate. |
Zion
11.11.11 | I agree with you on pretty much everything but basically I'm here for the people as much or more than for the structure of the site itself. |
Shuyin
11.11.11 | ^ same |
ShadowRemains
11.12.11 | "5: Users
Most of them suck."
it's the internet, that's pretty much a given |
Titan50
11.12.11 | The biggest problem of this site is that it's not RYM |
Scoot
11.12.11 | you wanna know how to troll deviant?
electronica is my favourite genre of music |
FromDaHood
11.13.11 | The artist page shoutbox is actually a really good idea |
taxidermist
11.13.11 | "The artist page shoutbox is actually a really good idea"
Noooooooooooooooooooo. |
Shuyin
11.13.11 | "The artist page shoutbox is actually a really good idea"
fanboys would kill this site |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | 5. kids that can't take a verbal ass beating and bounce back from it. |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | agree with all of this |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | 6. Yuma310 |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | yo... calm the fuck down man |
Haz
11.13.11 | "fanboys would kill this site"
at least they would stick to the page of their favourite band
despite flaws it's a great feature on last.fm, if you ask me. |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | "yo... calm the fuck down man"
JK, you funny man. |
tkxxx7
11.13.11 | I don't think so, I find it more annoying than anything
I think we should have event pages like last.fm tho |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | ha ha i call you out for not being clam. by being aggressive. internet logic. |
seedofnothing
11.13.11 | solution, place seed in charge and all will be well, ill kick all ur asses and keep everyone in check |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | yo... calm the fuck down man |
seedofnothing
11.13.11 | i love u omni |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | no sir. you clearly need to calm the fuck down. I will challange you to a chill battle bro. LETS DO THI SHIT. IM FUCKING ZEN |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | Yuma... talking about seed.
Seed... ty sir. |
omnipanzer
11.13.11 | A seed of nothing is a very sad object indeed. :^/ |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | seed? seed. S E E D. S
E
E
D
Seeds
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds |
Haz
11.13.11 | i am a member of SeeD |
seedofnothing
11.13.11 | kvlt m/ |
Shuyin
11.13.11 | haz some fanboys have what we call 'troll symdrome' which makes them go to other bands they hate to bash the living hell outta them, so yeah, they would kill this site |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | its clear that i lost the chill battle |
Adramere
11.13.11 | I think it's easier to make a list of things I like about Sputnik.
1. Pie Chart (even though it's limited, it's cool)
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
Idk. Everything else blows. The lag is ridiculous. The wiping of ratings with no warning given to a user before it happens. The inability to rate albums that are highly rated lower than a certain score. The inability to discuss an album before it has a review. The bugs in the lists. Moderator favoritism. The list really goes on and on. |
Shuyin
11.13.11 | and server crashes 10 times per day hahaha |
foreverendeared
11.13.11 | Cool, go ahead and leave then.
Later. |
Shuyin
11.13.11 | ladies first |
seedofnothing
11.13.11 | im in good with the mods, so my only complaint is the server, but whatev ill live |
Yuma310
11.13.11 | server sucks |
foreverendeared
11.13.11 | Was talking to Adramere, but cool comeback. I'll stay though because I actually like it here. |
Shuyin
11.13.11 | ahahaha man i couldnt resist! ive been a user on sputnik for like 1 year but when i started to read the threads i was like 'these guys are fucking crazy' started comenting few weeks are now im kinda hooked, sorry dude :DD |
foreverendeared
11.13.11 | Nothing to forgive, it's fun messing around with people on here, so carry on. |
tkxxx7
11.13.11 | "The inability to rate albums that are highly rated lower than a certain score."
wut |
Adramere
11.13.11 | ifusudiksaywut |
Curse.
11.13.11 | It would be awesome if most of the people complaining just left. Just lanes opening up on the highway |
Acrosstheshield13
11.13.11 | "It would be awesome if most of the people complaining just left. Just lanes opening up on the highway"
^^THIS. STFU or GTFO. |
Titan50
11.13.11 | Why stick with a mediocre product when it can easily be improved? |
witchxrapist
11.13.11 | Acrosstheshield seems like a very intelligent person. |
ncguitar
11.13.11 | let's create a sputnik e-mail |
StrangerofSorts
11.13.11 | ""The inability to rate albums that are highly rated lower than a certain score."
wut"
Think he's saying that people get really pissy/ think you're trolling if you don't like an album everyone else does.
Personally, I see why people complain but I can't say I'm moved to do the same. The good things about this site and its userbase balance out the bad - if only just in some cases.
|
paxman
11.13.11 | No, back in the day you weren't able to rate something a score that was far off from the average rating. But as far as I know, this no longer exists. |
toxin.
11.13.11 | Servers on Sputnik are absolute garbage. Even when the site loads it's super slow. And moderator favoritism is generally funny around here but can be annoying at times, when select users get other users' ratings wiped when they have their own troll 1s and 5s
Also yeah I remember reading there used to be an algorithm or something that automatically stopped you from 1'ing an album with a 4.0+ rating and a minimum amount of votes (or something) but it's never affected me so i don't know if it's still here |
tiesthatbind
11.14.11 | It still exists. Try switching OK Computer to a 1. |
TMobotron
11.14.11 | As a CSE major who also does a lot of HTML w/ CSS and PHP stuff where I work, you should all be aware that a lot (but not all) of the fixes that we want on the site would be SO FUCKING EASY to implement. That's what really pisses me off.
The only real improvement I've seen since I've been on the site is the ability to middle click featured albums and chart albums (and possibly more, idk). Diagonal lines got implemented on one spot on the front page, which looks great and all- diagonal lines kick ass in web design. But there are way more pressing issues. |
tkxxx7
11.14.11 | ^ yeah that pisses me off too
makes me wonder what causes the r's thing tho. |
Banion
11.14.11 | I love everything about Sputnik, do I win?
No but seriously, stop all you bitching unless your willing to show Sputnik up and do better. |
Haz
11.14.11 | I would buy this site if Jeremy were selling it |
Voivod
11.14.11 | The only things this site needs are these (imho that is):
1. more music genres tags.
2. classification of bands per genre/year/country and retrieval of relevant lists from an updated search engine.
Aside from my suggestions, the site's pros (too numerous to mention!!!), EASILY overcome its flaws. EASILY!!!
oh and something that some people CONSTANTLY KEEP FORGETTING:
THIS IS A DIY SITE.- |
TMobotron
11.14.11 | "makes me wonder what causes the r's thing tho."
True, that never made sense to me.
"No but seriously, stop all you bitching unless your willing to show Sputnik up and do better."
Not a legitimate argument. We shouldn't have to be willing to make a better website than sputnikmusic to critique its flaws. As the people who come to this site with the advertisements featuring the asian lady whose bush is a little too prominent and hollywood undead banners that take over the entire screen, we're paying for the server fees and I'm guessing at least a bit more. If that's not true, the site runners can always take it down. But voicing our opinions on what should be changed is pretty damn reasonable IMO.
"Aside from my suggestions, the site's pros (too numerous to mention!!!), EASILY overcome its flaws. EASILY!!!"
I don't think anyone is arguing that. We wouldn't be here if we didn't agree. But you can't honestly tell me that after 1 and 2 on your list you don't at least wish that you could change the number of albums on your list as you're creating it? It's not the biggest or the most obvious flaw but it's so clearly in need of a correction. |
toxin.
11.14.11 | 'No but seriously, stop all you bitching unless your willing to show Sputnik up and do better.'
My Lord, is this any different from the clueless fanboy comments of 'DONT DISS NICKELBACK U CANT DO BETTER SO U SHOUDNT DISS THEM'? |
Voivod
11.14.11 | @ TMobotron
tbh, i never made a list here and i believe you when you say there is a problem with the lists.
In general, i think we should be patient, I think mx is tracking our suggestions and will fix some of them in due time.
And a thing about the servers:
Yeah, it is a problem, but it is not the end of the world. |
TMobotron
11.14.11 | EDIT: Ignore. Coincidentally, I had to delete this post because of some site problems... but "delete"
isn't an option so I just changed it to this. |
TMobotron
11.14.11 | "In general, i think we should be patient, I think mx is tracking our suggestions and will fix some of them in due time. "
I think he's aware of most of the issues here because they've been talked about a lot over a long period of time... But some of the issues have been very obvious for a LONG time and we've seen no changes. When the charts went down they were down for such a long ass time "for maintenance", and once they came back there was no change that I could see. Like I said, we can middle click now, but that isn't a huge fix and probably isn't reason enough for the charts to ever have been down at all. I'd just like to at least know why they were down for so long.
I think about the servers that mx is probably paying for the best he can. I can respect that, I'm sure sputnik isn't the biggest cash cow ever. And I also probably sound like a whiny bitch about a lot of this, but that isn't my intention. I just think we need to be vocal about this to see some changes, and if we don't see changes that isn't necessarily a terrible thing, but I'd at least like some explanation of why things aren't being changed. But I love sputnik overall, so any complaints I have are out of love. |
GodL1ke
11.14.11 | ^ what will explanations do? it's a good site overall man chill out. |
TMobotron
11.14.11 | Like I said, I love sputnik overall. But it's stupid to ignore the problems it has. Explanations won't
change anything they're just a fair thing to provide for loyal users. |
witchxrapist
11.14.11 | I dont like Haz he ruins sight by being white bread and boxing like pussy bitch. |
Yuli
11.14.11 | It would be cool if you could add friends on here, or at least have a way to find users other than looking for their reviews or comments. I'm here for music as much as everybody else is, but the community is also important to me and it should be much easier to locate friends on the site. |
tkxxx7
11.14.11 | all you need is http://www.sputnikmusic.com/profile.php?name= |
Yuli
11.14.11 | I forget peoples' usernames though :[ sometimes there are people you only communicate with once, and you'd like to maintain contact but they aren't on much. There are other more pressing matters for sure, but it could be improved as well as what was mentioned earlier. |
Shuyin
11.14.11 | i think there is a forum for that stuff.. but u can allways register on last.fm since sputnik is compatible
"tkxxx7 i didnt got chance to reply you on the other list (cuz it got deleted) but i was talking to qweb (or whatever his nick is) so take it easy man :P |
ilikeforests
11.15.11 | let's create a sputnik e-mail
[2]
|
tkxxx7
11.15.11 | I don't even know what you're talking about |
aok
11.15.11 | lack of a friend system is great. otherwise cliques would be ridiculous to overcome, alts would act so differently, etc. even the glitchy lists serves to point you to the factthat you're better off writing a good review than a good list |
toxin.
11.15.11 | What's annoying, too, is that on a list, if you're typing an artist/album and go off that page, it automatically is erased. A small issue to be sure, but still annoying |
BrentF
11.16.11 | Guys, he most important problem on this site is obviously the fact that when you type a band name in and click the suggestion, it doesn't auto search for you making you manually click search. Obviously. |
foreverendeared
11.16.11 | ^ |
ferociouslettuce
11.16.11 | lol. i know how to implement a smarter search algorithm though >=/ |