BallsToTheWall: Fuck Music Elitism

bloc 11.05.11	I'm starting to like this guy
Tyrael 11.05.11	Join the club, Balls! Mind me jamming to some Dimmu? ^^
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Gateways is my jam. Dimmu has great singles I will say.
foreverendeared 11.05.11	New Years Day ♥
Oathbreaker 11.05.11	But, but my music taste is clearly superior to the majority of the users.
Cipieron 11.05.11	here here
PayneTiger777 11.05.11	Agreed. Fuck it all to hell.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	There really isn't too much elitism on this site (from what I've seen anyway), just some people refusing to accept that other people might like different things than them so will look at music differently. Also, your info thing doesn't actually make grammatical sense and the grammar nazi inside of me is annoyed.
NeutralThunder12 11.05.11	you don't need to be elite to know how horrible 1, 3 and 4 are
Scoot 11.05.11	there's plenty of elitist douches and there's also plenty of chill people who you associate yourself with is your choice
PurpleDino 11.05.11	"There really isn't too much elitism on this site" I wish this was true
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	I haven't used grammar in the 4 1/2 years i've been on here. Not going to change that.
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	actually the more I think about what I said, that IS musical elitism... Fuck the lot of them.
Hyperion1001 11.05.11	what?
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Who's a Opeth fanboy?
Cipieron 11.05.11	incoming baseline argument
climactic 11.05.11	i love you balls
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Holy fuck I have one Opeth album rated a 4....YOU MUST BE RIGHT I must be a closeted Opethesexual.....my self denial is going to force me to jump off a bridge because I cant come to terms with my own music orientation.
Hyperion1001 11.05.11	baseline has a very small penis, id just ignore him if i were you
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	I like getting riled up. It motivates the shit out of me even while sitting down wasting my lifeforce on the computer.
PurpleDino 11.05.11	Hyperion, dude, Baseline's a girl
Cipieron 11.05.11	redundant
jefflebowski 11.05.11	reverse snobbery is just as bad. Not that I'm at all accusing you of it, but there's plenty of it on the site
Crysis 11.05.11	Lot of hostility coming out of the BallsToTheWall camp lately, I like it. Site needs more of it. Agreed about list topic, etc. etc.
Valerius 11.05.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzm50HEmNeM
Cipieron 11.05.11	reverse reverse snobbery is the worst though
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	Girls can also have penises. And well.. welcome to the internet. Everyone's elite here.
tkxxx7 11.05.11	I used to listen to 2 in high school and 5 last year i think while studying
Counterfeit 11.05.11	people start rockin the bizkitz
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	chicks with dicks.
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	There was even that funny greek mythology stuff about those two-gender things. That's where the word androgynous comes from.
HaloDude442 11.05.11	i agree. 5 is awesome
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	The Greeks are way too into that stuff I will say. And im pretty sure I read that the Nazis bought into that shit, apparently most of the high ranking command were homosexuals, thinking it wpuld grant them god-like powers.
PurpleDino 11.05.11	I thought Hitler hated gays
geng 11.05.11	"People on this site can be such fuckheads" Amen.
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	Even though the nazis were anti-gay? But yeh, the Greeks were very into it. However it was usually between a younger man (anywhere from 14-early 20's) and their "tutor" in a form of paying for their teaching. So effectively all Greek (can only speak for Athenian really) men in higher education were prostitutes. Great culture.
PurpleDino 11.05.11	Greeks are also very into getting into vast amounts of debt, I hear
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	The ultimate hypocrisy. Hitler was into some real fucked up shit, two of his former girlfriends killed themselves and the other two I believe tried. That and the homosexual raids were scapegoated for finding intel against enemies. http://www.whale.to/b/myth1.html The belief in the occult world is if you could sodomize God, you’d get God’s power. You become as gods through sodomy; that’s the way the Greek gods became gods. Alexander the Great was a great sodomizer and his Greek army was the most fierce. Hitler tried to pattern his SS and military after the Greek warriors using sodomy. When you put that all together, the civilizations that God wiped out boiled down to the practice of sodomy.
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	I actually wasn't talking about the whole homosexuality part, I was talking about pre-human creatures having two genders like male-female or male-male or female-female and that their "souls" later went into humans. That was their explanation for that whole love/soul mate stuff. Also, that stuff with the nazi commanders is probably pretty wrong.
Haz 11.05.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Maybe, maybe not. Either way it wouldn't be shocking if it was treu. As I recall Himmler went on a journey to try and find the holy grail.
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	Holy shit, Wylie. Where'd you dig that shit out? That is TOTAL historical bullshit. And no, that is in case highly unlikely. First of all through the education back in the day, and second of all if you were gay, chances are high you got deported into a concentration camp or executed. (especially with a high ranking officer, and you can't just hide your sexuality forever)
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	I'm a sucker for a good story. I don't care if these articles happen to be true or false just the prospects of this shit gets my historical buff all tingly inside. And you know the Germans took a lot of risky gambles in WW1, why would it be shocking if they actually had the balls and arrogance to actually search for the "holy grail" and go through elaborate paths to become "gods"?
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Don't even get me started on Die Glocke. Besides, hypocrisy has always been rampant why should this time be any different?
Haz 11.05.11	there is some flimsy evidence to suggest nazism dabbled in the occult. I am completely going off an article I once read on the subject by Boyd Rice
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	"The ultimate hypocrisy. Hitler was into some real fucked up shit, two of his former girlfriends killed themselves and the other two I believe tried." One of them was his niece, too.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Apparently the great potato famine never happened in Ireland but actually it occurred in England, that's by going on the word from my brother who is taking that word from a legitimate Irish person. Even if it's not true how does it not stoke your curiosity? Shit likes this makes history so much more interesting to read up on.
Haz 11.05.11	have you read The Illuminatus Trilogy, Balls? I have a feeling you might enjoy it...
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	I haven't. I also need to read up on The Hellfire Clubs and Thomas Jefferson's involvement.
Haz 11.05.11	It's fiction but the amount of esoteric and pop culture references it weaves into the writing will make your head spin. Much of which is to do with conspiracies that have been dreamnt up over the years.
Haz 11.05.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	It's not about hypocrisy. It's about a strong ideology and historical proof. I'm not saying there is no chance that it COULD HAVE BEEN like that. But it probably wasn't, there is less to no historic evidence. Contemporary witnesses (like my grandpa, who was btw a high ranked officer back then) telling the story otherwise. I mean, I get the curiosity and stuff. But, one has to differentiate between a good story and historical "truth". And they were on a similar path to that "god" stuff, but not as you elaborated. They had their theory about the Aryans and took the Übermensch from Nietzsche to their advantage.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	People do stupid and crazy things based on fear, delusion and irrationality which is why I still believe there might be some kind of truth to it. Then again if it's not true oh well. What's in the past is in the past.
botb 11.05.11	yeah never understood why people have to shit on music. some of it really is just plain bad though.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	True guys, I think people get really, really personal about an artist that they hate and make a big deal of it. They should just dislike it and let it go. I know because i'm guilty, the prime example being Whitechapel. I hate Whitechapel with a passion but now im trying to be unbiased and less 'pear of anguish every one of those sons of bitches".
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Just joined. But I joined because I wanted to and I find it humorous, it's not out of spite. Or is it?
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	Do we count people who just give 1's to albums they haven't listened to?
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	There's some more to it I'd say. But also the part with ancient cultures and sodomizing is pretty much crap that sounded like Christian propaganda. (Mind you, people in the ancient times were way more civilized and educated than in the medieval ages and the phoenicians were some of the best craftsmen until the 20th century) I also don't really hate musicians. I just think their music and they are fucking dumbasses, as are maybe a big part of the people listening to them.
Aids 11.05.11	I obviously agree with the sentiment of this list, but what in particular brought it on Balls, if you don't mind me asking.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Don't know stranger. I stopped rating albums seriously a long, long time ago. As you might see some of my 5's or 1's can be quite sketchy and/or unrealistic based on the fact that my account isn't serious about half the time. True Wolf. Propaganda does wonders. I want to know if Die Glocke was actually real however.
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	hating on Black Veil Brides Aids, im gonna be honest, I really enjoy their two latest singles.
Aids 11.05.11	haha k, fair enough. I listened to one of their albums (do they have more than 1? idk) and found it fucking dreadful. Can't say I've heard the two latest singles though. and hey man, love what you love, just don't be an ignorant asshole about it and you're fine with me. I enjoy some pretty "bad" music (according to most of the users here).
StrangerofSorts 11.05.11	"But also the part with ancient cultures and sodomizing is pretty much crap that sounded like Christian propaganda." It is true, and it's recorded by ancient sources. It wasn't like it was out of control though, they just had a different view towards these things. Apart from in Sparta, they were very weird.
CreamCrazy 11.05.11	'There really isn't too much elitism on this site (from what I've seen anyway), just some people refusing to accept that other people might like different things than them so will look at music differently.' Exactly, been the problem with this site for a long time; drags it down when trying to take it seriously as a collective of wide variety of people, music genre & tastes.
Wolfhorde 11.05.11	Haven't really been into that topic tbh, if I did I'd definitely give you further information if I had some. "love what you love, just don't be an ignorant asshole about it and you're fine with me" Also, pretty much this. I also listen to some stuff that would probably be "totally lolworthy!1!1!1!1" on here.
silentstar 11.05.11	I have honestly never understood the concept of "bad" music; of course not all artists make original, unique, meaningful music. A lot of them are generic, and play the same damn thing over and over, but at the end of the day, there are people who enjoy mindless fun, and that is what those artists can offer. Just music to blast, fully of catchy hooks and cheesy lyrics.
Athom 11.05.11	this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9WOdnR-Nfs plebs.
tkxxx7 11.05.11	lol ^
BallsToTheWall 11.05.11	Haha win.
theacademy 11.05.11	tell me haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao can u breathe