Inveigh: Foster, Australian For...

Inveigh 04.22.11	FUCK YOU PACERS AND CROOKED REFEREES come at me sputnik
Josh D. 04.22.11	That almost-fracus with Foster and Rose wasn't a big deal. He kept his arms up and didn't move. That's just basketball defense, so I don't have a problem with it. It's not contact sport, but it is still a physical game.
Inveigh 04.22.11	how about this? http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/112/f/b/foster_elbow_by_galliart-d3elmi9.gif that's the kind of shit that gives players concussions and knocks them out of games and/or series. also, it's only basketball defense if he's attempting to make a play on the ball, which wasn't the case with that last foul on Rose. Plus, he's been doing it the whole series. A good amount of blame also goes to the refs for calling a bogus game -- the Bulls are getting called for ridiculous touch fouls, but only 1 of every 3 muggings from the Pacers results in a whistle. It's been horrible. Yet, we're still up 3-0.
Inveigh 04.22.11	here's a better video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L57dfe9Pco he's a thug and has no place in the NBA.
Hawks 04.22.11	So weird that you made this list because they're talking about this right now on ESPN haha. Also 5, 6, and 7 all rule.
Inveigh 04.22.11	here's the one on Rose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynrCDw3W6A come on, tell me he's trying to make a play on the ball there. that's just fucked up thuggery.
Josh D. 04.22.11	Didn't check the links since I don't care because I hate the NBA. But the Bulls will probably make the East finals, so it's all good.
Inveigh 04.22.11	also, notice Tyler "I'm a fucking pussy" Hansbrough's cheap shot at the end of Foster's foul on Rose.
Inveigh 04.22.11	haha I'm at work Hawks, just bored because there's nothing to do in my job on Good Friday and I'm steaming over this bullshit. JOSH DONT DISAGREE WITH ME IF YOU REFUSE TO CHECK THE EVIDENCE I WILL JEFF FOSTER YOUR ASS IN A SECOND just kidding man it's all good
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	Someone sounds bitter! : ) its ok though because yall got the broom ready.
Hyperion1001 04.22.11	This is exactly why i can never watch the NBA.
Inveigh 04.22.11	yeah I'm bitter. because I'm afraid that with the series all but over and the refs/league not doing anything about it that Foster's just going to take Rose's head off on Saturday and sideline him for the rest of the playoffs. which would ruin any chances of us winning another single game.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	Not from a foul like that.
Hawks 04.22.11	Inveigh just so you know, I'm rooting for the Bulls so hard. They're my favorite team (along with the Knicks) and D-Rose is one of my favorite players for sure. Pretty sad that Tyler Hansbrough plays for the Pacers because he's a UNC alum and I love UNC lol.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Celtics/Bulls, Lakers/Thunder. And let's be fair, Inveigh. If any team has been getting shafted by the officials consistently all season, it's been the Celtics. All fandom aside, refs whistle them for the most bullshit contact and do absolutely nothing at the other end.
Josh D. 04.22.11	If I hear an analyst say "Psycho T" one more time...
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	the Celts get called because they talk a lot of shit : )
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Yeah, it's definitely one of my least favorite nicknames. 123 Hawks about fanboying Hansbrough, though. Trade him to the fuckin' Nuggets and I swear to god I'll move to Denver.
Inveigh 04.22.11	well if he does to Rose what he did to Deng it could prove dangerous... also, if he just does the same thing when Rose is in the air (which is often)... the Celts got called for a lot of shit this year for sure -- but in years past got their fair share of favorable calls. I mean, look what they got away with against the Knicks in game 1 of that series (i.e. Pierce elbowing Melo and getting Melo called for a foul + Garnett blatantly tripping Toney Douglas on a screen and not getting called for shit). that said, I want the Celtics to win that series because I want them to annihilate the Heat in the 2nd round.
Inveigh 04.22.11	lol I've always hated Hansbrough, can't really put my finger on why. maybe it's because he's just a consistently flailing weirdo who flops all over the court and eats cookies with a fork in front of his locker.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	eats his cookies with a fork? me and this dude have problems.
Inveigh 04.22.11	yea dude, it's uncivilized.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	it takes all the fun out of it! cookies deserve better.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Which they better. I dunno, the Perkins trade really pissed me off, but after seeing Kristic and Green at least not being ENTIRELY useless, I don't think it weakened them enough to lose to a premature Heat squad. There's no contesting that Wade and LeBron are top-tier players, but I just don't think Bosh is quite where they need him to be, nor is the supporting caste/teamwork in general at a level at which they can beat the Celtics with. Especially after Rondo WTFdropping 30 the other night. Anything after the second round, however, hinges on Allen learning not to be the streakiest motherfucking shooter on Earth (17 in one game followed by 0/22 shooting in last year's finals? REALLY?) and the health of a pretty old ball club.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	if JO/Green continue to play well we may stand a chance past round 2. The hopefully impending standoff with The Heat will answer a lot of questions about this new squad. I'm not counting on Shaq at all anymore either--thankfully Jermaine is starting to step up again. Also Rondo, Rajon plays well, the Celtics win games.
ARuinedEmpire 04.22.11	I kinda remember a bunch of bullshit calls being called in the second game towards the end of the game on the Pacers..
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Yeah, as much as I want to see it, I don't think Shaq's going to be coming back. Also, I forget when it was, but Hansbrough had an absolutely crushing block against the Bulls. And anyone else notice the persistent media hyping of the Knicks even as they continually fail to deliver anything really impressive? First playoff win in TEN YEARS?...aaaaaaand nope. They lose. AGAIN. BUT THIS TEAM IS SO GOOD OMG HYPE!
savagecabbage 04.22.11	+100000 for this shit. Rose=MVP
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Rose has the MVP this year, no doubt about it. It remains to be seen whether they can get to the Finals this year, though.
random 04.22.11	Screw the Pacers.
Inveigh 04.22.11	I don't remember any bullshit calls at the end of game 2 against the Pacers.. at least none that were egregious... but I do know that Foster's been intentionally fouling with seeming intent to injur at multiple points throughout this series. if he gets a Kurt Thomas elbow to the groin in game 4 he won't be able to complain about it. on the subject of the Celtics, I would've liked to see them go one more year into the playoffs with that team intact, just to see how it could turn out if they were healthy. but alas, Jeff Green ain't that bad.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Yeah that Perkins injury was so fucking displeasing... At least it doesn't look like the Gaykers have a three-peat in them this year.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	I wouldn't count the Lakers out.
Inveigh 04.22.11	idk, if Pau turns it around (and I have no reason to believe he won't) then I still think the Lakers are the best team in the league overall.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Dammit, you guys harshin' my mellow. I'm honestly just hoping that either the Spurs or the Thunder beat them. I'd really like to see the Thunder in the Finals this year, and it doesn't seem like all that much of a stretch.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	Thunder look like strongest team in west right now, imo. Perk turned them into contenders. Its even arguable they've looked the strongest so far in these first few games.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	yeah I mean they're playing alright against the fucking Sixers.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	123Yeti. It's the Sixers. And it's not like they've consistently been beating higher-caliber teams. They have the ability to win a championship, I'm just not sure if they're realistically going to be able to pull it together this year.
theacademy 04.22.11	be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back
theacademy 04.22.11	her name is Martha and she's very self-conscious about her height
Metalstyles 04.22.11	I really hope the Magic get their goddamn act together and (sorry inveigh) beat the Bulls in 2nd round by relying on team production and playing solid D. That is, if they can get past the Hawks, which they actually might not if their oldies don't wake up, but they're still favorable against them. And seriously, their trade earlier this season with the Suns is probably going to cost them dearly deeper into the playoffs, because Richardson is declining as fast a Carter is and Turkoglu has lacked passion ever since he was first traded away from Orlando. Bulls will probably beat the Magic in 2nd round but I think it'll be close (4-2 or 4-3). If the Magic can play intense D throughout the games and shut down the other guys around Rose, they may have a shot because the Bulls don't have anyone to stop Howard in the middle (if Boozer will be as ineffective in playoffs as he usually is, that is).
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	oh fuck off pit.
wabbit 04.22.11	lol Basketball
cirq 04.22.11	fuck the bulls. celts are winning the east.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	I'm actually laughing, so you've improved it somewhat. (hah!) forgot to add the ";)" to indicate that I wer jestin
Winsomniac 04.22.11	It's not that we don't know how to play interior defense. It's that Kristic needs to learn to be Perkins.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	you talk a lot of shit about the #2 defense that was without Perk & Shaq for most of this season...
cirq 04.22.11	shaq daddy's resting for the next round.. dont trip
Metalstyles 04.22.11	Pit is right though, that trade easily takes the cake as the stupidest move this year by any team.
cirq 04.22.11	hes a big body in the middle.. dont step foot in the paint or your ass is fucked.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	"and you haven't been playing like the #2 defense since the trade, even though Perkins hadn't played for you all year." ....erm, I don't know dude. We kept the #1 spot statistically until very deep into the season. Which we then relinquished to The Bulls. And even though D12 won Def Player in a land-side--KG still placed 2nd. also: when Shaq has been healthy he's played very well for us this season.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	lets not forget you won only a single convincing game against the Celtics this season and The Heats record against winning teams (not to mention the top tier teams) is nothing to brag about.
AggravatedYeti 04.22.11	just sounds like you're holding onto that 1 win for dear life. see you in the second round pit : )
Winsomniac 04.22.11	Game 3 tips soon. Time to shut up and put your Guinness where your mouth is.
Metalstyles 04.22.11	Actually, Pit, Shaq can still make a little impact in the paint from a defensive standpoint as long as people think he can make a difference. Scare tactics man, haha, just Shaq's mere presence may force coaches to re-think their inside game because he is still a big and intimidating body in the paint that can grab boards and swat shots. But in general, he is too old and banged-up to make a significant impact throughout the playoffs for the Celtics. And because Jermaine had a few good games doesnt mean he's back or anything so yeah, the Celts have a problem down low. Garnett is great, but he can't guard all of the opposing bigs himself throughout the playoffs.
Winsomniac 04.22.11	C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!!
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	HMMMMMMM PLAYED PRETTY GOOD TONIGHT HUH? Dismantled the Knicks on their home court? Yep. Great game out of Rondo, Paul, Ray, KG? Yep. JO look solid again? Yep. Up 3-0? Yep.
Inveigh 04.23.11	Rondo was awesome last night -- and yeah, the Celtics, ironically, lost their offensive efficiency when Perkins left but their defensive stats stayed pretty constant. That's why I think the effect was more mental than anything. It was going to matter more if the Celts got the 1 seed and ended up playing the Magic in the 2nd round (Perk could guard Howard one on one -- though the Magic are no guarantee after last night either). I'm really, REALLY looking forward to watching the Celtics-Heat series, I think it's going to be epic. also, yeah, 9 rules. I like 8 just a little more though.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Don't worry everyone because the Lakers are going to win again so anyone who isn't a Laker fan might as well stop watching now.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	I'm worried about OKC a LITTLE bit, not going to lie, but i think the Lakers will handle them in 6 games.
theacademy 04.23.11	pit's right about one (and only one thing) lakers won't get past the thunder
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	Man it sucks being so blind. Guess next time I'll remember to support The Heat. Dag yo.
theacademy 04.23.11	ETHER'D
theacademy 04.23.11	pit just got destroyed
theacademy 04.23.11	DESTROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYD
foreverendeared 04.23.11	"so how are you gonna handle the speed of Westbrook and Durant?" The same way we beat them twice already in the regular season (although OKC won the most recent match-up). We don't need to contain Westbrook as you can see from their first game, we just need to contain Durant, which won't be as hard for the Lakers as most teams.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	Yeah I mean all those blind Laker fans too who's team since 2000 has made 7 final appearances and 5 wins with a three-peat and back to back. They're dreaming too. That team is trash.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	"I don't know how someone who barely scores(Perkins) can cause so many problems on the defensive end for a lot of teams." same way Ben Wallace did dude and he's got a Ring too.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	I'm not worried about Perkins at all. He's made them better, but if I were you I'd be more worried about how he's going to handle Odom.
theacademy 04.23.11	yeah yeti you ruined all your momentum with that last comment u got greedy, dawg
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	"because this isn't the same team in LA they've had years before." It is pretty much the same exact team as last year and if nothing else they upgraded their bench.
theacademy 04.23.11	Ibaka is such a fucking beast.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Really? I think Scott Brooks is going to stick him on Odom, but I dunno, I rarely even get to see the lakers play since I don't have cable and live no where near LA, so I'm not even remotely qualified to discuss that.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	Yeah I mean Jordan Farmar hasn't had trouble starting for the fucking Nets or anything this season...
foreverendeared 04.23.11	I have to say, I like Blake a bit better than Farmar. I watched the Lakers a lot in the first half of the season, and I watch probably 40-45 Laker games every year and i must say, they are extremely similar to last year's team in every way, and, in my opinion, very much improved.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	I would rather have Blake, Farmar would ask for more money for similar results. And yes it makes sense Farmar's numbers would be better while playing for the Nets. He'd logically see the ball more, be a bigger scoring option on that team compared to LA.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Yes, Blake's role doesn't really require much out of him.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	He's much better at keeping the offense flowing than Farmar even if Farmar is a better scoring option.
Metalstyles 04.23.11	foreverendeared is right though, this year's Lakers are extremely similar to last year's. Besides, Blake is a more reliable defender in general than Farmar is and Barnes is a solid hustler who can take some pressure off Artest, so I would definitely count that as upgrading the bench. All Lakers need to do is hope Bynum can stay healthy and they're good to go.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	also Farmar looks like a retarded weasel. I don't want that representing my team.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	"also Farmar looks like a retarded weasel. I don't want that representing my team." I want to "like" this "How can anyone say Blake makes the offense flow better when he's barely a part of it?" It's just something you'll noticed when he is running the floor, he's better at getting the offense moving than Farmar. He's a slightly better passer, he's not looking to shoot as much as Farmar (which is a big point because the Laker's offense doesn't need the point guard to score any points for its offense to be effective and run like it should), and he's faster and a slightly better ball handler.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	and you seem to do the exact same thing except the Heat have only 1 title :' ( OH NOES. < 3 ya buddeh. You've made my lunch break fun. Peace pit.
Metalstyles 04.23.11	Well yeah but the Lakers don't need Barnes to shoot anyway, Pit. They've got Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Brown, Fisher and Artest for that. And Barnes definitely plays gritty D and can get into his opposition's head. Blake can very well run Lakers' offense WHEN he's a part of it, and luckily for them, he's the type of point guard who doesn't necessarily need heavy minutes to get into the game groove (ahem, as opposed to my beloved Magic and their Gilbert Arenas). Also, what foreverendeared said about Blake.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	Farmar is faster and has better form to the basket but I still think Blake is a better team player. Farmar was always too concerned with Jordan Farmar.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	"Everyone does realize that if the Celtics don't find a way to play defense and/or the Bulls can't find anyone on that roster to take some of the pressure off of Rose, they won't be much more than a speed bump for the Heat on their way to the finals." shut the fuck up Pit. and also I dont think anyone else has guaranteed anything except you guaranteeing no one will beat The Heat.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Farmar has a much bigger role on the Nets than Blake has on the Lakers. Of coarse his stats are going to be a bit higher, but despite that, you're missing the fact that the laker's triangle offense does not require the point guard to be a scorer. That's just a fact, you can hear Phil Jackson saying the same thing all the time when he is defending Derick Fisher.
Metalstyles 04.23.11	Farmar is a faster runner/cutter, Blake is a smoother dribbler. There you go, Pit.
Spare 04.23.11	is this list implying i occasionally drink faggots
foreverendeared 04.23.11	You think if the point guard position mattered at all to the Lakers offense, with all the money they have, they wouldn't get a better point guard than Derek Fisher? Seriously, it's not an important role AT ALL for the Lakers.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	"I'd love to be able to pick it apart and show you the sarcasm in it, because even though it was blatantly obvious to everyone else, you seem to have missed it...." LOOKS LIKE: "They seem to make one statement to defend their side of the argument, and then without telling me their retracting it, they retract that statement and contradict it to defend another argument they are having."
Metalstyles 04.23.11	"You think if the point guard position mattered at all to the Lakers offense, with all the money they have, they wouldn't get a better point guard than Derek Fisher? Seriously, it's not an important role AT ALL for the Lakers." Don't be silly, of course it is an important position for them. Just, when they can win on a constant basis with Derek leading the offense, why change that? Team chemistry is so underrated by many, and is not something that should be constantly played with.
Metalstyles 04.23.11	Also, fuck editing in lists. My pretty format :(
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Okay, I was being a bit sarcastic when I said the position didn't matter AT ALL, but seriously, Phil Jackson himself has said on a number of occasions that the point guard doesn't need to score at all for the offense to run efficiently. Really, anyone that can handle the ball and make a decent pass can play the point effectively for the triangle offense to run smoothly.
Metalstyles 04.23.11	True that, and besides, I've constantly agreed with you on Blake being a solid back-up and a good floor general, so there's that.
foreverendeared 04.23.11	Yeah and I agree that the chemistry with Fisher is really important. It's not enough to be able to fill that role, but to know exactly how you fit in it is very important as well.
cirq 04.23.11	rondo went off last nite.. so did paul and rayray tho yea, fuck the bulls ;)
Inveigh 04.23.11	all point guards need to do in the triangle is defend, not turn it over and hit the open 3 (i.e. play within the offense and team defense concepts). Blake is far better for that role than Jordan Farmar, who is pretty fucking mistake prone, especially in the playoffs. It's also why they've been rolling with Fisher since the 90s. The reason the Heat have looked so damn solid in the first round (aside from having two future HoFers and Chris Bosh actually playing well), is that the Sixers are the PERFECT match-up for them. For two reasons. 1.) the Heat are at their absolute best when they can go up against a team that struggles in the half court (i.e. Philly, because they're a transition team) -- the reason being that the Heat use their stellar half-court man defenders (Bron, Wade, and yes, Joel Anthony) to force turnovers and start their own fast break -- which is their major strength on offense. They're not great against teams that defend well in the half court because their offense is 90% isolation. 2.) The Heat dominate teams (especially mediocre ones) that's strengths are their perimeter players. Because the Heat have the best 2-3-4 players in the NBA in Wade, Bosh and Bron. The Sixers' strength is their 2-3-4 players (i.e. Iggy, Thad Young, Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday -- he's really more of a 2 in their offense than a PG if you watch him). The Sixers are weak at the 1 and 2 with Lou Williams and Spencer Hawes, and are therefore unable to exploit the Heat's weaknesses. The Bulls, Magic and Celtics all present infinitely harder matchups for the Heat. This also explains why the Heat struggled against the Celtics, Bulls, Spurs and Magic in the regular season, but fared comparitively better against the Lakers. Especially considering that Bynum was either out or not at full strength when they played the Heat. The Lakers were/are dependent on their 2-3-4 players (Kobe, Artest/Barnes, Odom and Pau) and are still behind the Heat at those positions. They also struggled at times in their half court offensive sets this year, playing right into the Heat's transition-based offense. However, Pit's right -- if the Bulls can't get better production out of Noah & Boozer and get the ball moving again in the half court, and if the Celtics can't get some solid post play out of the O'Neals, then the Heat will at the very least dominate a few games out of the series and possibly win them.
Inveigh 04.23.11	props to anyone who actually reads all of that (also, correctin, *Sixers are weak at the 1 and 5)
foreverendeared 04.23.11	I read it all. Well said.
AggravatedYeti 04.23.11	/thread well put Inveigh.
Inveigh 04.23.11	one last thing... GO BULLS M'FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!
Inveigh 04.25.11	...how bout them Heat?!
acorncheese 04.25.11	you see the bhawks game, bearsman?
Inveigh 04.25.11	caught the end, pretty epic from that and the highlights I saw. game 7 bitches! also, super worried about D-Rose's ankle...
acorncheese 04.25.11	twas epic indeed. now just hoping the bolts can do the same thing tomorrow.
Hawks 04.25.11	Hell no Acorn. ;)
acorncheese 04.25.11	count on it baby
Inveigh 04.25.11	also, if anyone wants more evidence that the Pacers are dirty faggot thugs, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5eNSWFB4o&feature=player_embedded another quicker look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5eNSWFB4o&feature=player_embedded
Douglas 04.25.11	Foster taste like ass
cirq 04.25.11	celts are still gonna win the east ;)
Winsomniac 04.25.11	Soooooo only sweep in the first round against a supposedly very strong team? I think so.
AggravatedYeti 04.25.11	^ yeah funny how that happened, huh?
cirq 04.25.11	im not gonna get too excited over that seeing as billups was out and amare was playing on a bad back... that being said, the heat will lose in 5 or 6
AggravatedYeti 04.25.11	half the battle in the playoffs is staying healthy. Knicks got fucked. Though I don't think the injuries swayed fate all that much--good chance they would have lost in 5 or 6 instead of a sweep. We broke them down all season--hell even our B-Squad beat them up w/ Amare (not playing a full game of course). that being said: this second round standoff (C's-Mia) could be the best series of the playoffs imo. Fucking blood match. Esp. since those fuckers in South Beach have home advantage.