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cirq 04.04.11	OMG! ONE LISTS PER DAY!!
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	Liar? That's politics bro.
theacademy 04.04.11	better than the alternative
iFghtffyrdmns 04.04.11	OK FINE WELL I STILL THINK WE CAN
eternium 04.04.11	Everyone on the Republican side that might be running has said/done some stupid stuff. He should just pick the craziest quotes and use them.
psykonaut 04.04.11	^lol, fucker didn't even end the DEA raids on medical marijuana dispensaries.
psykonaut 04.04.11	yeah he's pretty much up against donald trump (lol) mitt romney (zero moderate appeal) newt gingrich (zero moderate appeal) and mike huckabee (zero moderate appeal and a fucking moron)
eternium 04.04.11	Yes he did lol. Eric Holder specifically told federal law enforcement to not mess with states that have medical marijuana legalized.
TheStefan 04.04.11	Trump 2012.
Tyler. 04.04.11	donald trump
Tyler. 04.04.11	omg
psykonaut 04.04.11	yeah and the DEA ignored him, and he did nothing. the DEA is pretty much a rogue agency in fact
Polymath 04.04.11	hahahaha well played psyko
taxidermist 04.04.11	Obama: I still have hope :p
Strider 04.04.11	lolilol Trump
ffs 04.04.11	I'm The Best You're Going To Get So Stop Complaining You Fucking Babies
Satellite 04.04.11	better than the alternative [2]
psykonaut 04.04.11	sonic, imagine a state of the union address made entirely in leprechaun couplets fuck yes
eternium 04.04.11	I haven't heard anything about the DEA continuing to attack medical marijuana but it's probably true. Nonetheless Obama never said he was going to legalize it. It's going to either by Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty running against him.
Maniac! 04.04.11	Ron Paul for Prez
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	It's too bad the libertarians are still throwing their lots in with Ron Paul... he's just too damn old. We need a younger, better looking candidate. I can't imagine the damage that will be done if the US continues to allow Obama to reach into our pockets and wrench out all our hard earned money. Bastard.
whywontyoudie 04.04.11	i wish my Obama account wasn't banned.
Satellite 04.04.11	ron paul being batshit fucking insane doesn't help either
psykonaut 04.04.11	gary johnson is like the sane, cool version of ron paul. too bad he doesn't stand a chance of winning the republican nomination
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	"ron paul being batshit fucking insane doesn't help either" Sadly, I totally agree with you :( I'd rather have a fucking anarchist in office than Obama though.
Trebor. 04.04.11	Obama > Any Republican
eternium 04.04.11	"I can't imagine the damage that will be done if the US continues to allow Obama to reach into our pockets and wrench out all our hard earned money. Bastard." lol do you always watch Fox News and ignore facts?
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	"true fact: rand paul is a rush fan and was named after rand who was in turn named after neil peart." Rand is actually a pretty neat guy. If his dad would freakin' step down and let his son have a decent chance at winning, then I would be more excited.
Trebor. 04.04.11	Rand is a tea party extremist
Aids 04.04.11	Barack Obama: your expectations were way too fucking high.
eternium 04.04.11	Libertarians are cool in that they are for personal freedoms and non-interventionism. But then they go and fuck it up when they're all for letting big businesses and rich people do whatever they want and Social Darwinism and yeah.
Trebor. 04.04.11	fuck the tea baggers [2]
cvlts 04.04.11	didnt vote for obama going into office, dont see why i'll vote for him now.
Aids 04.04.11	seriously though, people were building him up to be the second coming of Christ or something. he's been a decent president; way way way better than Bush and likely way better than McCain would have been.
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	"lol do you always watch Fox News and ignore facts? " I never watch fox news. I'm not a Republican. I hate Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and O'Reilly. I look at what's happening in the world around me. More and more people are getting pulled over and getting traffic tickets that cost anywhere from $300-$780, more people are owing on their taxes rather than getting a return, gas is over $4/gallon in Cali, and fix it tickets actually COST you money now. Government is getting bigger and bigger and our rights are getting encroached. Wake up.
theacademy 04.04.11	wow so that was 44 comments in about 5 minutes
Trebor. 04.04.11	Tickets have to do with state, not federal government Gas is expensive because the suppliers are greedy arabs
Aids 04.04.11	"Gas is expensive because the suppliers are greedy arabs" ...... you're a fucking idiot.
cvlts 04.04.11	now that's just racist...
psykonaut 04.04.11	SPUTNIKPOLITICS YEAH
eternium 04.04.11	What Trebor said. Nothing you mentioned has to do with Obama and fact is that taxes are the lowest they've been in decades and have only decreased under Obama.
G3N3R1C 04.04.11	Obama '12: "I piss off Glenn Beck so i must be doing something right!"
Defeater 04.04.11	I will continue to look out for me and those around me. Who cares who's running the country, the outcome is the same regardless of who is in there.
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	@Trebor: And the fact that the government OWNS our car companies means nothing to you? The State is still government last time I checked... And I'm sure you're one of the people that's think it's totally okay for us to try and buy from greedy arabs instead of drilling on our own lands... We're totally willing to fight over oil, but heaven forbid we crack our own soil and drill Alaska..
Crysis 04.04.11	"Gas is expensive because the suppliers are greedy arabs" The United States gets most of its oil from Canada you idiot.
eternium 04.04.11	lol you're an idiot.
ffs 04.04.11	didnt bazack obama promise that black men would no longer be allowed to become president??? he's a freaking liar. you cant trust him. im moving to canada.
Defeater 04.04.11	Next she's going to tell us that OPEC is a legitimate organization.
Crysis 04.04.11	Second place is Mexico.
psykonaut 04.04.11	if you don't know how our government operates on three separate federal-state-local levels then you should stop pretending you know jack shit about politics
cvlts 04.04.11	-"FUCK YOU!" -"NO! FUCK YOU!!!"
WhiteTieBlackJacket 04.04.11	Unfortunately, those who actually get it are in the minority. See, at this point, it doesn't matter if a we re-elect Obama or put in a Republican. The government has ultimately become a system of control and we are subjects to that control until we actually do something about it. Bankers rule the land. If you ask me, we should take out actions that would make the French revolution look like an episode of Spongebob.
whywontyoudie 04.04.11	someone is gonna get banned because of this thread.
Trebor. 04.04.11	Most people don't drive American cars anyway Its OK to drill for oil in the states, as long as its not off-shore, or endangering to animals
JWT155 04.04.11	Obama has done better then I expected but I'm not voting for him in 2012.
Aids 04.04.11	"I will continue to look out for me and those around me. Who cares who's running the country, the outcome is the same regardless of who is in there." holy shit 12 fucking 3 I never thought I could agree with Defeater as hard as I do right now. I live in Canada and we have an election coming up, but I plan on not voting. I'm sick of pretending like we (Canadians and Americans) live in a democracy because we get to pick between a few douchebags once every 4 or so years. Fucking ridiculous.
eternium 04.04.11	You're thanking an idiot who is misinformed and has no idea what he's talking about.
ffs 04.04.11	i say we start a revolution fellas. those Corrupt Capitalist Bastards are no match for us scrawny 15 year olds and our malformed political ideas.
Inveigh 04.04.11	yeah my expectations for Obama may have been too high but I can safely say that this healthcare bill fucking sucks balls. and if it didn't suck so many balls, why has his administration had to hand out waivers to over 1,000 corporations so that they could delay participation? oh yeah, because it's killing businesses. my health insurance premiums went up by 60% and the quality of coverage went down because my company had to switch to a cheaper plan. meanwhile Obama's down in Brazil shooting hoops with kids and promising them that we'll help them start up offshore drilling to aid their floundering economy (which is b.s. seeing that we're still not allowed to do it in Alaska). I mean, it's not like he's the least qualified person in any room he steps into or anything...
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	I just don't want the bloody government dictating all my decisions and swiping all my money. It's simple. I'm all for the legalization of gay marriage, marijuana, and abortion. I'm also for big corporation and as well as small businesses. We should focus more on trade and less on war. I think a lot of you would agree with libertarian ideals if you didn't listen to all the rhetoric that floats out there.
theacademy 04.04.11	defeater is not an idiot but that sentence is certainly nothing to praise (unless you're willing to admit to apathy... which is perfectly fine, just don't pretend to be well-versed in politics/worldly when you hide behind it)
eternium 04.04.11	I agree with a lot of your ideals but I don't want my life being controlled by either the government or few richest people. America is a plutocracy.
Defeater 04.04.11	I think eternium was referring to darlingfemmefatal.
theacademy 04.04.11	fucking wind ensembles...
Trebor. 04.04.11	Some dumb ass is going to post "not all republicans are like that" duh
Inveigh 04.04.11	"fact is that taxes are the lowest they've been in decades and have only decreased under Obama. " yeah, he did lower the federal income tax. I'll give him that. but Social Security went up. and my fucking corrupt as shit state (Illinois) decided to jack up our state income taxes by 75% so I still lost out on about $35 a paycheck.
theacademy 04.04.11	oh... my bad i was referring to Aids.
Defeater 04.04.11	I'm all for a flat-tax. And yes, rich people pay more with a flat-tax because they make more. Derp.
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	"I agree with a lot of your ideals but I don't want my life being controlled by either the government or few richest people. America is a plutocracy. " Didn't I just say that I didn't want to be controlled by the government?? Why are we arguing?
JWT155 04.04.11	Can all the liberals with their head up their asses stop putting down others with opinions? Seriously, if your opinions we're so true then why does nearly half the country disagree with you. Nothing is black and white, stop making it so.
eternium 04.04.11	Taxes are going to have to increase to help the debt anyway. That's basically a fact. Thing is Republicans want further tax cuts for the rich who already own a ridiculous amount of our wealth. The income inequality in this country is disgusting.
BigHans 04.04.11	Obama was elected by fucking morons, pure and simple. Not saying everyone who voted for him was an idiot, but droves of slack tongued dipshits who couldn't find America on a fucking world map went out and voted because he had rock star status.
Inveigh 04.04.11	but seriously, does anyone actually think this healthcare bill is a good thing? and is Nancy Pelosi not as big of an idiot as anyone in the Republican party? I've voted Dem in the last two presidential elections, and generally considered myself a liberal guy. But I'm at the point now where I have no idea who doesn't suck.
WhiteTieBlackJacket 04.04.11	@sonictheplumber the opposing media outlets are designed to keep Americans separated. They spew the rhetoric that is tailor made for their audience and in the process the dig the trenches between sides. If the people are not united, then they are weak. I mean, look at how many millions of Americans have lost their homes as a result of the housing crisis and as the result of Obama's lack of action (i.e. a moratorium on foreclosures). It does not matter if you are a conservative or liberal. If you are homeless as a result of your government's inaction, there's a fucking problem. And that's where we're headed.
darlingfemmefatal 04.04.11	"yeah, he did lower the federal income tax. I'll give him that. but Social Security went up. and my fucking corrupt as shit state (Illinois) decided to jack up our state income taxes by 75% so I still lost out on about $35 a paycheck." Exactly. They lowered the federal and raised the social security, because they figured everyone would be too jazzed about federal to give a damn about social security. These are the things more people need to notice and pay attention to. You think it's so great when you get a tax return every year, but the fact of the matter is that the government just borrowed a huge chunk of YOUR money without having to pay a dime of interest on any of it. Then they turn around and make you pay crazy interest when you borrow money to go to school so that you can try and make this country a better place. They're screwing us every chance we turn around and we're letting them do it... hell.. we're handing them a bottle of lube.
eternium 04.04.11	Yes the health care bill is a good thing. I know so many people who will now have health care thanks to it.
Inveigh 04.04.11	"Thing is Republicans want further tax cuts for the rich who already own a ridiculous amount of our wealth." that's a pretty blanket statement to make considering most of the Republicans vying for the nomination in 2012 aren't saying anythign about that. and there's nothing wrong with tax breaks for BUSINESSES, in fact that's going to be a key to pulling our economy out of the gutter.
Aids 04.04.11	"defeater is not an idiot but that sentence is certainly nothing to praise (unless you're willing to admit to apathy... which is perfectly fine, just don't pretend to be well-versed in politics/worldly when you hide behind it" I studied politics at uni, was seriously considering going into international relations. I am extremely well-versed in world politics and 100% stand behind that statement. Year after year, decade after decade, things just get worse. Voting for the "Liberals" over the "Republicans" is almost as pointless as voting for Emery over Senses Fail in the year end lists. In the end, it's all the same old bullshit. I have voted in 2 federal elections and one federal by-election and never felt satisfied. I don't know for sure what it's like in the US, but here in Canada, pretty much no one gives a shit about their constituents once they're elected. They just move their shit to Ottawa and forget where they came from and they promises they made to their hometowns. One notable exception in the MP for my riding who I have met and actually really like, although I don't like who I'm forced to vote for Prime Minister in order to vote for her. There is a chance I will give her my vote, but frankly, I'm sick of caring about politics; it's exhausting.
BigHans 04.04.11	The current democratic/liberal party is the enemy of business.
psykonaut 04.04.11	THOSE WHO DIED, ARE JUSTIFIED, FOR WEARING THE BADGE THEY'RE THE CHOSEN WHITES
Motiv3 04.04.11	America is fucked regardless of who gets in. Best choice is Ron Paul and hes too old now.
psykonaut 04.04.11	and the republican party is the enemy of the worker. our economy thrives on balance, it always has
eternium 04.04.11	Yes, the big banks are making record profits because Obama is so anti-business and General Electric paid no taxes and actually got tax money back because Obama hates rich people.
Inveigh 04.04.11	"I know so many people who will now have health care thanks to it." ...or they could just get a job with benefits. fucking Starbucks gives part time workers health benefits as long as you work 20 hours a week. no degree required.
Aids 04.04.11	(permabumped to the top of the new comments page)
Trebor. 04.04.11	I would be fucked without Obama's health care plan
eternium 04.04.11	Yes because Starbucks pays enough money to support a family.
Inveigh 04.04.11	JP Morgan-Chase made record profits because they're damn-near a monopoly at this point; UBS made record profits because they're not based in the US.
Crysis 04.04.11	"The current democratic/liberal party is the enemy of business." Spoken like a true conservative. Political parties are archaic entities that will be the absolute ruin of the modern state.
BigHans 04.04.11	and the republican party is the enemy of the worker. our economy thrives on balance, it always has ^ thats total bullshit. Guess what happens when you hurt business? You hurt the worker by default.
SloppyMilkshake 04.04.11	Anyone who favors any one political party or candidate over the other is, in my opinion, pretty naive.
Counterfeit 04.04.11	guys. how about communism.
eternium 04.04.11	That's why we need to break up the banks, limit their control over our money supply (so that we won't need another bail-out), and tax their corrupted CEOs that fuck over every customer they have.
Trebor. 04.04.11	I thought BigHans was cool until now
Inveigh 04.04.11	ok who do you know that's earning enough to support a family but didn't have health insurance?
BigHans 04.04.11	thats total bullshit. Guess what happens when you hurt business? You hurt the worker by default. ^ Ill rephrase. When business gets hurt, the worker who is worth a damn gets hurt. IE the person who gets a degree, bumps themself to a better job, takes it in the shorts. I suppose the dude who works at McDonalds is helped by the bleeding hearts, but guess what, they have little fucking impact on our economy.
Trebor. 04.04.11	Delete please
ConsiderPhlebas 04.04.11	The NHS is probably one of the best aspects of English society, but it was only ever brought in to maintain a healthy population in case we had another real war. Is the healthcare bill an attempt to create something similar in the US?
Aids 04.04.11	"shut up bitch" eventually it all comes down to this the crux of every single political argument. ever.
cirq 04.04.11	lol politics
UnnamedOcean 04.04.11	I don't like Obama a ton, but I'd much rather have him in the white house than any of the Republicans out there today. But I don't believe in having only a choice of red or blue, so I'm not voting.
Counterfeit 04.04.11	guys. how about communism.
Aids 04.04.11	I thought Trebor17 was cool until now ....wait, no I didn't
Aids 04.04.11	"guys. how about communism." I'm in let's do it
Trebor. 04.04.11	Communism works in theory, but not in practice
Inveigh 04.04.11	I agree eternium, but Obama apparently had no problem with the JP Morgan purchases I think Mitt Romney has a solid understanding of how to potentially help our economy, but he does just seem like a fucking asshole which hurts his case. other than that, I don't like anyone on either side really. another problem is that it seems like half the country gets their political opinions from Fox News and the other half gets them from either Huffington Post or Jon Stewart.
eternium 04.04.11	"ok who do you know that's earning enough to support a family but didn't have health insurance?" My mother.
Aids 04.04.11	"But I don't believe in having only a choice of red or blue, so I'm not voting." that's essentially what I'm saying, theacademy if you're still reading. well put, ocean
Aids 04.04.11	"Communism works in theory, but not in practice" wow you're the first person to ever say that
eternium 04.04.11	Jon Stewart is better at getting straight facts to people than most other "real" journalists.
BigHans 04.04.11	Is the healthcare bill an attempt to create something similar in the US? ^ No, its designed to punish the people that actually go out and work for a living and achieve, so that the person who sits on their ass can have equal coverage. Its bullshit, won't work in our society, and is a train wreck waiting to happen. Universal Health care can maybe work in smaller countries with very similar ethnic backgrounds. It cannot work in a country like the US without being an unmitigated disaster. not only will the cost go up for people who actually go out and get a fucking job and receive health insurance, the quality will go down because more and more people will be in the system. Its typical liberal politics: punish the succesful, help the unsuccessful. You cannot improve anything by taking from the strong to give to the weak.
Inveigh 04.04.11	could she not afford the health insurance, or did she just choose not to purchase it because private health insurance is expensive? plus, as much as it sucks -- it shouldn't really be everyone's problem if a person can't or won't find a way to get insurance.
Crysis 04.04.11	@Hans- What in fuck's name does ethnicity have to do with universal health care?
Hyperion1001 04.04.11	"No, its designed to punish the people that actually go out and work for a living and achieve, so that the person who sits on their ass can have equal coverage." You have zero understanding of economics....
BigHans 04.04.11	the simple fact that different races of people have different medical tendencies, are more apt to get certain illnesses, etc. Basically, not everyone is equal medically. They are attempting to treat it as such. Has nothing to do with race bashing at all.
Inveigh 04.04.11	lol at Jon Stewart getting "straight facts to people" he's as biased as anyone on Fox News -- I mean, they both suck (and they're both pretty hilarious)
jayfatha 04.04.11	Serj Tankian - Lie Lie Lie
eternium 04.04.11	She could not, cannot afford health insurance. Just about everything BigHans said was morally and factually wrong. Everyone deserves decent health care.
sithofheaven 04.04.11	You're right, everyone is unemployed because they're lazy.
BigHans 04.04.11	You have zero understanding of economics.... ^ yeah youre right, 10 years in the business world has taught me nothing. I knew so much more when I was a college student. lol. Anyway Im glad I have to go to my second job before I really get heated, haha.
NeroCorleone80 04.04.11	At least theres a two term limit
Crysis 04.04.11	That's a really shoddy excuse for saying why it won't work in America. The smaller country thing, sure, I'll take that, but listing racial medical differences alongside population size as a reason that universal care won't work in the US is illogical.
eternium 04.04.11	The health care bill has nothing to do with poor people anyway because those people have Medicaid. It's for the middle class that works and makes money but not enough to get coverage. Yes there are actually people like that, welcome to the fucking real world.
UnnamedOcean 04.04.11	"You're right, everyone is unemployed because they're lazy." Yeah I mean, the economy is so good and its so easy to find a job even with a college degree in this nation. You never see college graduates working at Burger King...
Inveigh 04.04.11	"Everyone deserves decent health care." the problem with the health care bill is that it's going to ruin the quality of health care in this country. so instead of most people getting decent health care, now no one will. we'll all have relatively shitty health care. it's just a matter of who's going to be paying for it.
sithofheaven 04.04.11	I was being sarcastic towards Hans' comment.
Aids 04.04.11	BigHans is kind of sounding like an idiot here..... the US ain't so special man. universal health care works very well pretty much everywhere it exists. don't try to act like the US is too good for it or something. and the idea is not just to reward people who "sit on their ass." it's to make sure citizens are treated like actual human beings. I don't know whose quote this is but it's 100% true (and I'm almost certainly misquoting it, but you'll get the gist hopefully) "The real measure of a society is not it's wealth or power but how it treats its weakest members" (just checked, a bunch of people have said it, but the quote I was thinking of was from Ghandi) I'm not a "liberal" but I definitely think the US needs to stop being so fucking scared of universal healthcare.
eternium 04.04.11	You're making an assumption that has nothing to back it up and you seem to be assuming that it's free health care for everyone when it isn't. It's regulations on the insurance companies so that they can't fuck over customers when they actually need health care and it's subsidies for the people who still can't afford health care.
theacademy 04.04.11	i actually would like to hear some criticism of jon stewart obviously the show's clips are edited to be both biased and entertaining, but he seems to be generally critical of hypocrisy (regardless of which party propagates it) Nobody really think's/should think Stewart is 'balanced' in a journalistic sense, but that is not necessarily a reason to disregard all of his messages.
UnnamedOcean 04.04.11	"I was being sarcastic towards Hans' comment." I know, I was adding to your sarcasm ;)
Inveigh 04.04.11	lol I work in the real world. I graduated college with a shitty GPA from a directional state school with massive student loan debt in the worst recession in recent history and got a job (fall of '08). then I got laid off in January 2010. and you know what? I got a fucking job in February. not the highest paying job, but it was enough to pay the bills on my apartment and student loans and buy groceries for my fiancee and I while she's in nursing school. the only people with college degrees working at Burger King that I know are either insanely lazy or got a degree in something horribly irrelevant -- which is their mistake that I shouldn't have to pay for. but still, anyone who has a college degree can still go get some bullshit call center job and make $15-20 an hour... it's just a matter of whether you have the fortitude to go do something you hate to pay your bills.
NeroCorleone80 04.04.11	I'd rather sort out my own health care. Not be dragged into a system against my will.
eternium 04.04.11	Jon Stewart does the thing that journalists NEED to do. BAM (here's a fact), BAM (here's a fact), BAM (here's some guy), BAM (here's why he's wrong or a hypocrite). I'm baffled that it isn't always like that.
Inveigh 04.04.11	also, pretty sure Burger King provides insurance benefits to their part timers too...
theacademy 04.04.11	I for the most part agree that he does the best job, but I also understand why it's not always like that.
eternium 04.04.11	Inveigh, I know the statistics have changed now and back in the midst of the recession there were four job seekers for every job opening. Do the math. Some places were worse off than others and you got lucky.
SwayzeFaced 04.04.11	None of the above. Brewster had the right idea.
RooseveltsGhost 04.04.11	Clinton would have been less of a pussy than Obama; is it too late to nominate her?
Inveigh 04.04.11	"Jon Stewart does the thing that journalists NEED to do. BAM (here's a fact), BAM (here's a fact), BAM (here's some guy), BAM (here's why he's wrong or a hypocrite). " ^that's a pretty limited view on what he does. and I like his show. I just don't take everything he says to be the gospel truth, because he obviously plays to an incredibly liberal audience, as they're the ones paying his bills.
Aids 04.04.11	upon reading through BigHans' comment again, I think I misinterpreted it. he wasn't necessarily saying universal healthcare is a shitty idea, just the mess that the senate (or whoever) have come up with
Aids 04.04.11	everything is biased. everything. it's up to us to be critical about what we see/hear/read/whatever (edit @ Inveigh)
eternium 04.04.11	You shouldn't take anything that anyone says to be gospel truth but he still speaks the truth more often than anyone over at Fox does.
Inveigh 04.04.11	"Some places were worse off than others and you got lucky." I'm in Chicago, which had one of the worst ratios of unemployment to cost-of-living in the entire country.
theacademy 04.04.11	"he obviously plays to an incredibly liberal audience..." (true) "...as they're the ones paying his bills." (false)
CelestialDust 04.04.11	Hey guys, let's close guantanamo in a year! oh wait, i lack cojones to do things, nevermind!
Trebor. 04.04.11	Parts are good and parts are bad I hate when people call it Obamacare
pizzamachine 04.04.11	Obamacore
eternium 04.04.11	Then emphasize the "got lucky" part.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	If i go to the politics board i'll just end up posting links to democracynow.org everywhere
Aids 04.04.11	"Obamacore" hahahahaha
Trebor. 04.04.11	Does Obama play any instruments? He should form a band with Bill Clinton
Inveigh 04.04.11	I'd like to think I was able to get a job because I spent all day everyday while unemployed applying for jobs, not because I'm some lucky chump who fell into an open position. not everything is luck you know... @acad: no, liberal viewers are not directly writing him checks but they're the ones watching his show. which causes the ratings to go up. which brings in advertiser dollars to Comedy Central. Who then pay Jon Stewart. Who then pays his own bills.
eternium 04.04.11	It isn't all luck but the fact is that the math isn't there. Not everyone can do what you did and get the same results.
ashcrash9 04.04.11	McIlrath '12?
JWT155 04.04.11	This is a funny list.
eternium 04.04.11	Also, supply-side economics is just a false theory to trick people into supporting the big businesses instead of the workers.
Trebor. 04.04.11	I would like to hear Kimm's take on this
Aids 04.04.11	"McIlrath '12?" yes please. I would vote for him (except I legally can't because I'm not American)
JWT155 04.04.11	Keynesian then eh?
eternium 04.04.11	The Keynesian that was applied by FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy, yes.
ConsiderPhlebas 04.04.11	I understand what you're saying, Hans. Now that we're part of Europe, the NHS is open to anyone, regardless of whether they've lived a day in the UK or paid one penny in tax, which burns when the gov take a quarter of your wage every month. I guess if the same % didn't contribute to the service over there as happens here, the cost would be astronomical for those who were actually paying. I don't understand enough about the medical care in the US - like medicaid etc - to comment in any detail, though.
Aids 04.04.11	FDR is my favourite American president. Except for George Bush, he wins because of the lulz.
JWT155 04.04.11	See I completely disagree, Keynesian has it's uses but it's strictly a short term policy so that Governments can spend their way into a surplus but have to resort back to saving. I believe in more classical priniciples and think ideas like eliminating the FED and having like 5% ir would do wonders.
theacademy 04.04.11	"no, liberal viewers are not directly writing him checks but they're the ones watching his show. which causes the ratings to go up. which brings in advertiser dollars to Comedy Central. Who then pay Jon Stewart. Who then pays his own bills." this is not necessarily untrue, but it's also not really all that intuitive. Comedy Central pays Jon Stewart because of his ratings, and his ratings are largely derived from a liberal audience, but Stewart himself didn't seek to 'corner the market' on informed liberal viewership... the people who watch his show (above median income, above median education, below median participation rate) watch it because it's entertaining, not because it's informative (which is why I feel that the show is so great... it tricks people into noticing bullshittery, regardless of what party it comes from). If Stewart had neocon ratings that were identical, his show would receive the same funding. Summer Redstone was butt-buddies with Bush, but good business = good business.
Trebor. 04.04.11	FDR interned the Japanese So he loses some points
JWT155 04.04.11	FDR is ironically my least favorite president.
Aids 04.04.11	(dubya, that is, as if that wasn't obvious)
Trebor. 04.04.11	Viacom owns Comedy Central They are seriously ass-holes
Aids 04.04.11	hahahaha jwt
JWT155 04.04.11	Viewers don't view Jon Stewart to "be informed" but to be entertained BUT I'd say a majority of his audience know only of what is in politics based off of what they've been exposed to on his show.
eternium 04.04.11	You're assuming that I agree with long-term deficit spending but I don't. I agree with their social welfare spending and tax rates. When the economy is doing good the government is supposed to cut back spending to avoid a bubble and should do so. That's exactly what Bush should have done but did not.
JWT155 04.04.11	Hahahahah opinions lol they're great aren't they. and I agree eternium, Bush is as much of a lying scumbag as Obama.
theacademy 04.04.11	...which is not such a bad starting point...
eternium 04.04.11	Well, Bush lied us into a war. That's a big difference from Obama.
JWT155 04.04.11	No but they definitely will have a skwewed view. I notice subtle things on his show like when it does come to poking fun at liberals and conservatives, he tends to take the care-free "Obama, why did you have to something that stupid, you know better" where as most conservatives he just calls them dumb fucks. Regardless, I find his show slanted but highly entertaining and hilarious.
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	Just imagine if Obama had Bush's balls.
acorncheese 04.04.11	Can't think of one GOP candidate I'd vote for over Obama tbh.
eternium 04.04.11	Most conservatives are dumb fucks. Michele Bachmann is one of their most popular politicians.
JWT155 04.04.11	Bush did get Congress to approve of it though and I think any country given a month and a half of stall time with the UN would be able to move their WMD's to Syria or hidden bunkers. Conspiracies I know...
acorncheese 04.04.11	Most conservatives are dumb fucks [2][3][4][5]
eternium 04.04.11	Yeah except a lot of former Bush officials have come out and stated that it was a bunch of bullshit and that Bush had been planning to find a way into Iraq ever since he got elected.
JWT155 04.04.11	How ironic cause I find most liberals to be dumb fucks.
Trebor. 04.04.11	They are all dumb fucks
eternium 04.04.11	There are a lot of dumbass liberals, yes, but I'm not aware of a single one that is of the ranks of Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.
JWT155 04.04.11	Everyone who works at MSNBC. Chris Matthews
Trebor. 04.04.11	True that to eternium
wyankeif1337 04.04.11	"Everyone who works at MSNBC" this
ConsiderPhlebas 04.04.11	Conservatism and liberalism both attract their fair share of idiots, just like any facet of human existence - that doesn't mean it's a rule. Both sides have real ideological weight and both are deeply flawed. Stop flinging shit at each other.
eternium 04.04.11	I don't think anyone at MSNBC ever concluded that the Egyptian revolution was an Islamic/Communist takeover of the world nor have they said that Bush wasn't a citizen. Sometimes they go over the line but they don't spew absolute bullshit like Fox does.
JWT155 04.04.11	I've been quite civil bro.
wyankeif1337 04.04.11	"Both sides have real ideological weight and both are deeply flawed. Stop flinging shit at each other." also this
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	"How ironic cause I find most liberals to be dumb fucks." http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html The Add Health study shows that the mean IQ of adolescents who identify themselves as "very liberal" is 106, compared with a mean IQ of 95 for those calling themselves "very conservative."
eternium 04.04.11	Oh God win.
Trebor. 04.04.11	Fox makes shit up about cool video games like Mass Effect That's were I draw the line
eternium 04.04.11	Remember that these conservatives are the same people who say evolution is made up, that marijuana is as dangerous as cocaine, that the gays are evil, and that our public school system should either not exist or should openly read the Bible to students.
JWT155 04.04.11	Quite a slippery slope there. Love how all Conservatives are made out to be members of the West Boro Baptist Church.
JWT155 04.04.11	Nah White Walls.
TheNewWhack 04.04.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIA5aszzA18
acorncheese 04.04.11	"There are a lot of dumbass liberals, yes, but I'm not aware of a single one that is of the ranks of Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, etc." This and it's not even close. Glenn Beck is a whole new level of retarded.
ConsiderPhlebas 04.04.11	Ok I just watched the fox news 'sexbox' thing about Mass Effect. You have some crazy news in the US.
UnnamedOcean 04.04.11	Bill O'Reilly is a pretty big fucking moron as well. BREAD GOES IN, TOAST COMES OUT. YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT.
eternium 04.04.11	They aren't quite that radical but people like Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, and Sarah Palin are hugely popular in the conservative crowd for a reason. It's very typical for conservatives to run on about how our founding fathers were Christians (a big lie), how creationism should be taught alongside evolution, how gay people are sinners, and then go off about how union workers are greedy while the top 1% of richest Americans take nearly a quarter of the entire income.
Counterfeit 04.04.11	guys. how about communism.
cirq 04.04.11	lol BRObama
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	Communism would be fucking awesome if it weren't for the fact that the leaders are always corrupt.
Emim 04.04.11	"Throw More Money At It"
Emim 04.04.11	"No one else has a stimulus package with my girth"
KeithStone582 04.04.11	I'm Barrack Obama, and I approve this bullshit.
fr33convict 04.04.11	guys. how about communism.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	who just got a 200k increase in salary to 1.1 million for having the "best year in safety performance in our company's history" is he liberal? is he conservative? who gives a fuck. he's the CEO of transocean, the owner of the oil rig that blew off the gulf of mexico. liberal vs conservative arguments are pointless and distracting. Focus your energy on where the power lies... and it's not in obama
KeithStone582 04.04.11	Fuck communism. Capitolism all the way baby.
JWT155 04.04.11	Pure Capitalism is just as evil as communism.
psykonaut 04.04.11	BULLS ON PARADE a wah chick wah chicka wah wah chicka
Sanders 04.04.11	After reading this lot of comments, HOLY FUCK am I glad I just have to deal with English politics; we just have to vote to choose between a couple of the least inspiring sad sacks around. Even if it is at the cost of the current "efficiency" of the NHS.
eternium 04.04.11	Liberals are the ones trying to stop things like that.. Conservatives are the ones who want the rich to have even more of the wealth then they already do.. Again, America is a plutocracy.
Emim 04.04.11	"communism" That's worked out well so far.
psykonaut 04.04.11	carlin/hicks 2012
JWT155 04.04.11	There's nothing keeping the lower class from trying to work their way and enter into the top 1%.
Emim 04.04.11	"can we just figure out how to resurrect dead people and make george carlin president?" 1234567890qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm
eternium 04.04.11	"There's nothing keeping the lower class from trying to work their way and enter into the top 1%. " Yes there is, the top 1% is what's keeping us from doing that. Union busting, tax policies that favor the rich, states taking away welfare and health care from the poor while cutting taxes for businesses, college education getting more and more expensive, wages staying still while CEO benefits reach the moon..
ConsiderPhlebas 04.04.11	Ethically speaking capitalism sucks ass, but it's kinda fun to live in comfort and have xboxes and mp3 players etc.
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	"There's nothing keeping the lower class from trying to work their way and enter into the top 1%. " I hope you're not serious.
JWT155 04.04.11	Keep believing that BS, after I finish college, I've decided I don't want to be just another joe in a cubicle so me and my bro are going to start a website on an idea we've had for a while. If it takes off, great, if not and I fail I can find another job.
captaincrunch11 04.04.11	Wut
Emim 04.04.11	It's all crazy! It's all false! It's alright.
37er00 04.04.11	wee
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	"Keep believing that BS, after I finish college, I've decided I don't want to be just another joe in a cubicle so me and my bro are going to start a website on an idea we've had for a while. If it takes off, great, if not and I fail I can find another job." What does that have to do with anything?
JWT155 04.04.11	True but today, if you have an idea and balls then not much is in your way. Most people just don't want to get their hands dirty and take a chance.
Narshh 04.04.11	The sun goes up the sun comes down the tides go in the tides come out there's no explaining that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ&feature=related
eternium 04.04.11	Also ignore the fact that worker productivity has increased greatly while, once again, wages have not. But you know, you work harder you earn more right? Right?
FreePizzaDay 04.04.11	We got some crazy fuckin' wingnuts in this place. It's very interesting to see what some of you guys believe.
JWT155 04.04.11	""Keep believing that BS, after I finish college, I've decided I don't want to be just another joe in a cubicle so me and my bro are going to start a website on an idea we've had for a while. If it takes off, great, if not and I fail I can find another job." What does that have to do with anything?" Has fucking everything to do with it. I have no fucking programming background or anything, but here in America, if I have an idea I can go with it, take a chance, and maybe hit it big. I come from a single parent home, rather poor family and we'll be in debt over my head when I get out of school but I'm not gonna let that get in the way of doing something more with my life.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	@JWT155 take a chance?most people don't have the money to attend good university... consider yourself lucky if you GET the chance
eternium 04.04.11	Good luck with that because you're going to be owing the money for a long time and it's going to hurt your ability to function in the modern life despite your hopes.
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	It takes a lot more than an idea.
Emim 04.04.11	"We got some crazy fuckin' wingnuts in this place." Everyone's a crazy fuckin' wingnut to someone. But to get to the bottom of the matter... how in the HELL do magnets work?
JWT155 04.04.11	Magic.
Narshh 04.04.11	It's all crazy! It's all false! It's alright. [2]
psykonaut 04.04.11	and i don't wanna talk to a scientist y'all muthafuckas lyin' and gettin' me pissed
FreePizzaDay 04.04.11	Probably a pretty valid point Emim. Some people are just more vocal about things and, while I definitely have some off color ways of looking at things, I definitely don't have the testicular fortitude to come in here and announce them so matter-of-factly. It's admirable but, well, crazy fuckin' nutty.
eternium 04.04.11	"It takes a lot more than an idea." Yeah it takes a lot of money to start something, which either comes from rich family or the bank that's owned by the rich. If your credit is bad because of your student debt then you won't be getting a loan from a bank. Even if you do get that loan there's a very small chance that your idea will work and suddenly you find yourself and your family in an ocean of debt.
JWT155 04.04.11	Fucking Debbie Downers.
Scoot 04.04.11	Holy shit, this blew up.
eternium 04.04.11	"Fucking Debbie Downers." It's called the real world.
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	We're not Debbie Downers for being realistic.
JWT155 04.04.11	We'll see then.
Psilocyanide 04.04.11	No, you'll see.
darthbarf 04.04.11	i only watch bill o'reilly and jon stewart. both have their flaws but after watching both for years i feel like they are the only two guys who actually care about people and try to get the facts to the people. again both are flawed
Emim 04.04.11	"Probably a pretty valid point Emim. Some people are just more vocal about things and, while I definitely have some off color ways of looking at things, I definitely don't have the testicular fortitude to come in here and announce them so matter-of-factly. It's admirable but, well, crazy fuckin' nutty." Testicular fortitude is my phrase of the day now. "Holy shit, this blew up." and that's what she said.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	jwt, eternium is right. his point is that the owner of facebook is a guy who went to harvard. he wasn't broke
JWT155 04.04.11	No shit you'll need loans or endorsements, I'm not gonna start a website from my basement. Obviously I'll need to put my ideas on paper, take into account all the capital I'll need and cash, patent anything that can be and get a lawyer and then find people/companies willing to loan cash and buy in. I'm not being naive about this, it'll be hard work and I'll have to prob write a 100 page thesis just about the missions statement of the site, incentives for investments, concentrated targeted audience, how analytics would be used to generate revenue, ect.
eternium 04.04.11	It isn't just that, he was also lucky. In reality the only reason college is even in my life is because of money offered by the state and federal government and I'm still going to an incredibly cheap community college.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	you are inspiring, jwt
Aids 04.04.11	"Ethically speaking capitalism sucks ass, but it's kinda fun to live in comfort and have xboxes and mp3 players etc." this this this this this
CelestialDust 04.04.11	sonic let me get some of that meth please
eternium 04.04.11	I'm definitely for capitalism just not for businesses fucking people over.
Aids 04.04.11	capitalism = businesses fucking people over I mean, that's really oversimplifying but it's kind of true.
newjunkaesthetic93 04.04.11	SARAH PALIN HAS A RETARD BABY
CelestialDust 04.04.11	lol @ sonic
UnnamedOcean 04.04.11	I see unrestrained capitalism as short-term prosperity leading up to a massive collapse.
eternium 04.04.11	"capitalism = businesses fucking people over" No. We can have capitalism without being given diseased meat, we can have it without loan sharks targeting dumb customers, we can have it without child labor, we can have it with a minimum wage, we can have it with workers joining together so that they don't get screwed over, and we can have it without a few dozen people having enough power to bring down the economy.
FreePizzaDay 04.04.11	Yo where'd you get diseased meat from? I wouldn't go back to that place.
CelestialDust 04.04.11	I see what unnamedocean sees
eternium 04.04.11	"Yo where'd you get diseased meat from? I wouldn't go back to that place." It came from ConAgra so good luck avoiding them because it just about owns the entire food industry.
FreePizzaDay 04.04.11	I've been eating meat for 21 years and have never eaten rotten meat. Was it made in the factory with the child laborers? Cause I told those damn kids I'd beat them if they sent out rotten meat.
eternium 04.04.11	I was using examples of past regulations put in place and what regulations should be put in place. Obviously the Pure Food and Drug Act is still in place.
newjunkaesthetic93 04.04.11	LET'S ELECT THE WOMEN WITH THE RETARD BABY! IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE BABY! RETARD BABY 2012!!!!!
FreePizzaDay 04.04.11	I know man I'm just fuckin' around because I'm too ignorant to contribute
SloppyMilkshake 04.04.11	You guys still arguing? Shiiiiiiiit
CelestialDust 04.04.11	let's not copy/paste for attention now
flalafell 04.05.11	hillary clinton>obama>any republican thats right i said it
eternium 04.05.11	Hillary Clinton couldn't keep her husband's dick happy. How the hell is she supposed to handle a goddamn country?
flalafell 04.05.11	she'll nag and bitch until she gets her way, that should've been fairly obvious
thunder15 04.05.11	PUPPY POWER!
JohnMcCain 04.05.11	suck my dick ima win.
cvlts 04.05.11	oh my god
JohnMcCain 04.05.11	you fags are just wanting your country to get fucked over by a kenyan immigrant, a woman, or that crazy prick Ron Paul.
psykonaut 04.05.11	fuck off john, you're too old to internet anyway
cirq 04.05.11	lol this got CRAAAAAAYZEEEEE
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=related This man explains the situation of not only the US, but of the whole planet. He uses simple math to explain just how fucked the world is, it's a pretty powerful video (I'm not spamming...everyone needs to watch this).
cirq 04.05.11	FUKC YOU AND FKCU THAT OLD MAN!
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	BUT HE MAEKS SUCH A GOOD POYNT!!
Dev518 04.05.11	Obama will be reelected, it will be bush's second term all over again, and then hopefully we will all wake up. I'm in the Rand Paul 2016 camp. I imagine his dad will run but once again will not be elected, or even get the nomination because he isn't a neocon.
ShadowRemains 04.05.11	lol jesus christ
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	hahahaha
Dev518 04.05.11	Corporatism = business and government fucking people over together.
cirq 04.05.11	Boner = the bulge in my pants i get when i talk about politricks!
MCGF 04.05.11	"i only watch bill o'reilly and jon stewart. both have their flaws but after watching both for years i feel like they are the only two guys who actually care about people and try to get the facts to the people. again both are flawed" this is pretty damn true for TV.
eternium 04.05.11	Since you're supporting Rand Paul I assume it's okay if the people are fucked over by businesses as long as the government isn't involved.
Athom 04.05.11	faux-libertarianism is so cute and trendy.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	"Corporatism = business and government fucking people over together." Lol without corporations you wouldn't have a computer to type that rant on.
MCGF 04.05.11	and without the labor movement you wouldn't have benefits.
cirq 04.05.11	LIBERTAD!
MCGF 04.05.11	stop being so fucking one sided with your thinking, all of you guys. these general statements mean nothing.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	exactly
eternium 04.05.11	Nobody said they were against all corporations.
cirq 04.05.11	YOURE HYPOCRITES! THE WHOLE LOT OF YA!
wyankeif1337 04.05.11	"yes we can... i'm serious this time guys" andcas nailed it. i'm also getting a little vibe that eternium doesn't like us conservatives. dunno, it might just be me
wyankeif1337 04.05.11	what movie?
MCGF 04.05.11	YOURE HYPOCRITES! THE WHOLE LOT OF YA! nah just we aren't arguing anything, just being like "oh im a liberal here is the stupidist thing liberals typically say" counted by "oh wait im conservative your wrong let me be retarded too!" it passes for "debate" these days.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	I was just pointing out how black and white Dev518 sees things...
wyankeif1337 04.05.11	i saw that a couple days back. it was awesome tbh, although the ending was weird.
flalafell 04.05.11	nader 2012
Dev518 04.05.11	I don't have anything against corporations. Go learn what corporatism means unless you want to continue to relish in your ignorance.
whywontyoudie 04.05.11	local elections are what matters.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	read as corporations, quick glance, my bad
CelestialDust 04.05.11	i loved source code! jake hits that in the sequel
Trebor. 04.05.11	I want to see Source Code
Dev518 04.05.11	It's okay. I just don't understand how anyone can stand for a system in which government picks winners and losers, and wealth is transferred from the middle class to both the poor and the wealthy. Obama either endorses this system, or at least has taken no initiative to change it. He certainly encourages many policies of corporate welfare, just look at G.E.
SHAKEandBAKE 04.05.11	"Voting for the "Liberals" over the "Republicans" is almost as pointless as voting for Emery over Senses Fail in the year end lists. In the end, it's all the same old bullshit." I can't believe no-one acknowledged this comment haha. Well played.
eternium 04.05.11	Saying that liberals and Republicans are the same is just a blind statement. The vast majority of politicians are corrupt bastards but they're still vastly different when one wants to dismantle Social Security and the other doesn't, for example. Thank you Dev for actually realizing that Obama is in the pocket of businesses. However I do believe that he would change the system if he could but he would have to get through Congress to do that. The Dodd-Frank reforms is probably the best he could do. The Republicans and some Democrats aren't going to support anything that forces corporations to actually pay taxes and end corporate welfare.
Trebor. 04.05.11	GE didn't pay taxes last year Fail
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	"actually realizing that Obama is in the pocket of businesses" Any president would be. That's the real problem. Obama came into his presidency with the ideas of change and yes we can, then when he got into office I think he came to the clear realization that alot of the advisors and lobbyists really run the country, wealth and overall distribution of living. He had some great ideas on the plate at the beginning and was getting stuff done, but then got stuck behind the dirty politics and the puppet masters who control everyting. Electing a republican would only exaserbate this, while it would occur more slow with a democrate. But eventually they would cave. Because in the grand scheme of things, a small % of people control the wealth. Unless the masses band together and REALLY create a strong revolution that would shift the balance of power it will stay this way. Couple that with the scarcity of NON-RENEWABLE resources, which get more expensive (who can afford them?) every year, and this planet is heading into a tailspin of massive proportions in the present of next decade unless something drastic happens now.
eternium 04.05.11	I still think it's far more that Obama would have to get through Congress than it is that he's controlled by the wealthy himself. Most of the failed promises are due to Congress. He isn't a dictator, he can't do whatever he wants.
CelestialDust 04.05.11	amen to that bloodsweatandbeers
CelestialDust 04.05.11	you and eternium make this list worthwile to read
bungy 04.05.11	sonic must be the only person here with any sense
climactic 04.05.11	http://tinychat.com/sputnik bitches
North0House2 04.05.11	I just think the government's all screwed up at the moment.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	Cheers Celestial. Like I mentioned, check out that 8 part video, it's some of the most incredible material you will ever watch.
Dev518 04.05.11	He's relationship with GE has nothing to do with congress. The man is a central planner at heart like many politicians before him. He thinks he knows who should win and who should lose. Couple central planning with the nearly unlimited opportunity that the Federal Reserve creates for politicians and special interests, and we can see how we got where we are. The system works both ways though. Corrupt businesses corrupts good politicians and corrupt politicians corrupt good businesses (look at Microsoft).
cirq 04.05.11	lol da government is a liar
WhiteTieBlackJacket 04.05.11	Excuse me, but Obama has proven that he can and does do what he wants without congressional approval. Regardless of his (unjustified) reasons, he had no business entering Libya and that is ESPECIALLY true because he did not consult with Congress.
Wolfhorde 04.05.11	Why does Sputnik always try to seem intelligent by either discussion politics or religion, which in the end comes down to a "No, I'm right!" "But I'm right!" "No, you fucker!" "No, you bitch!"-discussion?
CelestialDust 04.05.11	Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to **** in the first place?
cirq 04.05.11	shut up butthead
Aids 04.05.11	Geroge Carlin is my favourite politician
omnipanzer 04.05.11	"Why does Sputnik always try to seem intelligent by either discussion politics or religion, which in the end comes down to a "No, I'm right!" "But I'm right!" "No, you fucker!" "No, you bitch!"-discussion?" That's not a Sput only phenomena Wolfy.
Wolfhorde 04.05.11	"Geroge Carlin is my favourite politician" ^ Fuck yeah.
Aids 04.05.11	BlooodSweatandBeers' multiparagrpah rant wins the thread, the one that starts with "actually realizing that Obama is in the pocket of businesses" /retarded political argument, please
omnipanzer 04.05.11	I can think of a few: "Hey, I'm not bush" "Get off my back, I'm still fixing Bushes shit" "At least I'm not the worst president in history... like Bush" "With out me what would the right wing talk show hosts do?" "I promise the next term will be better!"
cirq 04.05.11	any political science majors in the house?!
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	Cheers Aids. I just find politics a joke when nothing get's fucking solved since all it is is taxes this and that and a bunch of finger pointing with no real substance.
Remer17 04.05.11	"I just find politics a joke when nothing get's fucking solved since all it is is taxes this and that and a bunch of finger pointing with no real substance." This.
BloodSweatandBeers 04.05.11	LOL after I deleted that by accident, I'll throw that section back in.
Aids 04.05.11	"Cheers Aids. I just find politics a joke when nothing get's fucking solved since all it is is taxes this and that and a bunch of finger pointing with no real substance" that's exactly how I feel about the whole situation as well.
Aids 04.05.11	"any political science majors in the house?!" me, sort of. I'm like half way through an International Relations degree that I think I'm deciding I don't want to finish after all. I might just go to Audio Tech school to learn audio engineering instead and try to get into the music industry.
JWT155 04.05.11	I have a minor in poly sci, may go for a double major.
Aids 04.05.11	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8414149/House-that-looks-like-Hitler-catches-eye-of-Twitter-users.html a house that looks like hitler so relevant. fuck im bored at work.
cirq 04.05.11	watch your fuckin mouth
Aids 04.05.11	sonicthepulmber, are you pissed because I don't like you?
Aids 04.05.11	^haha yup
Enotron 04.05.11	"I see unrestrained capitalism as short-term prosperity leading up to a massive collapse." this comment was interesting, because most austrian-school advocates would make this same claim about keynesianism.
Enotron 04.05.11	some really really stupid shit in here though too many to actually pick arguments with
iwubmoosik 04.05.11	fuck it moving to north korea
JJwins 04.05.11	just read this entire thing. JWT155 wins the award for dumbest poster.
cirq 04.05.11	YAY FOR JWT155!
Jash 04.05.11	Politics: get stoned and forget about it
JWT155 04.05.11	I still luv u guyz < 3
Defeater 04.05.11	Healthcare is not a right. Having a job is not a right. And life shouldn't be a right for the majority of this country.
Defeater 04.05.11	who gave that poor bastard the internet public access points ftl
Enotron 04.05.11	nothing is a "right". everybody watch george carlin's video on rights. government isn't inherently valid and certainly has no objective, moral obligation to do certain things. as long as people recognize that, i'm fine with most views
Wolfhorde 04.05.11	I side with the people who laugh at the political groups while sitting in a jacuzzi and drinkin' whiskey. Cheers.
Defeater 04.05.11	what's your point
speed2cruisecontrol 04.05.11	as hetfield says, "master master" pulling our strings smashing our dreams nothing is as it seems
speed2cruisecontrol 04.05.11	fuck
Defeater 04.05.11	thanks for that one mr. finnegan
speed2cruisecontrol 04.05.11	vote waynehead
fightoffyourdemons88 04.21.11	this man has been a joke of a president we need a good GOP candidate....not trump hes another pathetic candidate
Defeater 04.21.11	http://www.fffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.com/images/1236.jpg
Ire 04.21.11	lets talk about dicks guys
Defeater 04.21.11	dick left in jan 09
psykonaut 04.21.11	Edmond de la Fontaine (24 July 1823 – 24 June 1891), better known by his pen name of Dicks, was a Luxembourgian jurist, poet, and lyricist, known for his work in the Luxembourgish language. He is considered the national poet of Luxembourg, and, along with Michel Lentz and Michel Rodange, one of the most important figures in the history of Luxembourgian literature. In addition, his Luxemburger Sitten und Bräuche was one of the most influential early ethnographies on the Luxembourgian people. Fontaine was the third son of Gaspard-Théodore-Ignace de la Fontaine, who was appointed Governor of Luxembourg in 1841, and subsequently served as the country's first Prime Minister in 1848. Fontaine studied at Liège and Heidelberg from 1844 until 1847, before becoming a lawyer in 1850. From 1867 until 1870, he served as mayor of Stadtbredimus, in eastern Luxembourg's Moselle Valley. He lived in Stadtbredimus Castle from 1858 to 1881 when he became a Justice of the Peace in Vianden, where he would live for the last decade of his life.
Defeater 04.21.11	Am I the only one that realizes everyone named Richard is a complete dick? What's in a name...
eyedea420 04.21.11	were all fucked!
WashboardSuds 04.21.11	who the hell is obama
Remer17 04.21.11	Everyone in politics is wrong.
Wolfhorde 04.21.11	"who the hell is obama" Just some guy from the middle east who changed a letter in his name in order to be president. No one important.
WashboardSuds 04.21.11	o i si
awal16 04.21.11	better than romney or palin or (dear lord) trump
cirq 04.21.11	lol fuck obama poliTRICKS