seifer
12.04.10 | i'm listening to first signs of frost right now so by the end of the year will have listened to 6 atleast |
Winsomniac
12.04.10 | That girl's got some nice boobs. |
wyankeif1337
12.04.10 | Honestly, you only heard 5 albums this year? You've been missing out on some good stuff. |
seifer
12.04.10 | yes but i've got to catch up with music released in the 60,70,80,90 and well the new millenium isn't that high on my priority list |
JWT155
12.04.10 | Might interview 5 in a few days... |
seifer
12.04.10 | what srsly? u a R journalist |
JWT155
12.04.10 | No, I'm a DJ on my college radio station and they're performing here Wed. next week, might get a backstage pass and interview the band hopefully. |
seifer
12.04.10 | that's awesome hope u get some nice info |
JWT155
12.04.10 | *Finger crossed* |
seifer
12.04.10 | keep me updated on that , really like circa |
JWT155
12.04.10 | Me too |
seifer
12.04.10 | so u listened to the appendage already ? |
JWT155
12.04.10 | Not yet, maybe tmw, too drunk right nwo. |
seifer
12.04.10 | being drunk is such a good feelin too bad it's noon in my part of the world |
JWT155
12.04.10 | That soes suck, met a cute girl tontie myslef and playing the field by txting an ex and fb chatting a 3rd wheel, hahahahaha |
seifer
12.04.10 | haha that sounds gr8 |
JWT155
12.04.10 | Yup, always nice to know like 5 girls are interested in you. |
seifer
12.04.10 | well it doesn't hurt i would say lol |
seifer
12.04.10 | fuck i forgot to include coheed and cambria on this list damn |
pillowswantyoursoul
12.04.10 | I love seeing 4 in lists. |
jingledeath
12.04.10 | 1 is the best |
TMobotron
12.04.10 | some people here have listened to so many albums this year. ive probably listened to around 50, so ive been asking around with my friends how many 2010 albums they think theyve listened to and its always insanely low. |
starry
12.04.10 | Most people I suppose just listen to the hyped ones as they are the ones they feel they should hear because that is what the hype machine tells them. Many don't listen to modern music much as they hear the hyped ones and feel they are overrated and that if that is the best there is then there is no point hearing anything else. |
TMobotron
12.04.10 | well most of my friends just listen to radio music. i was listening to the national in my car today and one of my friends asked me where i get my music, and asked me if i had my homepage at "worst songs of the day" and just pick those up. Ugh, so god damn frustrating. |
AliW1993
12.04.10 | Really need to hear 4 |
starry
12.04.10 | I don't like The National much either lol. |
TMobotron
12.04.10 | actually i dont either, im just listening to hv because im trying to finish up a nice 2010 list and thats the most well-received album i havent listened to probably. i like hv more than boxer though i think, and the track was anyone's ghost which i think is really good. It's not that he needed to love it but i cant see thinking the national is really bad compared to what i wouldve heard if i switched over to the radio. |
starry
12.04.10 | This is what I mean though, you are listening to it because of the hype. If you have limited time to listen through music I can't really blame you I suppose, but I won't put something on a list just as some others think it is good. I could do a best 80s albums list and maybe put Wham - Make it Big on it. Some people might get snobby and say it isn't great but I couldn't care less, others like the melody in it and so do I. It depends on the perspective people bring to music and often I think it is too narrow.
The problem in the 2000s is that there is so much music out there that there is something for probably everyone but it takes so much digging to find the good stuff most will never find the music they would really like. Only a few things get hype, most stuff is quite obscure in comparison. |
Kiran
12.04.10 | "I could do a best 80s albums list and maybe put Wham - Make it Big on it. Some people might get snobby and say it isn't great but I couldn't care less, others like the melody in it and so do I."
A bit hypocritical considering every post I've seen from you has been lashing out at 'hyped' albums with no consideration for the fact that people may actually enjoy them for the music and not the popular opinion. |
starry
12.04.10 | How is that hypocritical? Some may enjoy hyped albums but as shown here some people listen to them just because they are hyped and more famous and they maybe don't have time to find other stuff. |
Kiran
12.04.10 | It's hypocritical because you were being condescending to people who listen/enjoy hyped albums while at the same time justifying that everyone has their own taste in music. Nobody enjoys popular albums because other people do - enjoyment is an experience, you can't pretend to enjoy something, and I highly doubt anyone who cares about music enough to join this website is going to go out of their way to pretend they like something they don't. Who does it impress? I think it's silly to feel like hype makes something any better or any worse than how an individual enjoys it and if other people seem to be enjoying it, who are we to say otherwise? It doesn't mean they have a "narrow" music taste as much as it literally means they enjoy something that lots of others do to. You said you wouldn't put something on a list just because others think it's good and the entire point is that no one would do that!
This isn't meant as a slight against your character either, perhaps 'hypocritical' came off rather strong, I just think you're taking to the anti-hype machine a little too strongly. |
porch
12.04.10 | kiran gave you a polite answer but he could have justifiably called you an idiot and left it at that because you say such consistently dumb things on this site. aren't you the guy who heard a few post punk albums, didn't like them and then arrived at the conclusion that music critics just pretend to like it or something
"I suppose, but I won't put something on a list just as some others think it is good"
yeah my 2010 list was full of albums i hadnt even heard
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starry
12.04.10 | " who heard a few post punk albums, didn't like them and then arrived at the conclusion that music critics just pretend to like it or something"
I've heard loads of post-punk albums. I've never said I disliked everything in that style, but I just think some things that critics champion are way overrated at the expense even of other post-punk music.
"he could have justifiably called you an idiot and left it at that because you say such consistently dumb things"
I think this is called self-projection. You see alot of it here. Keep calling me names you make yourself look stupid.
"You said you wouldn't put something on a list just because others think it's good and the entire point is that no one would do that!"
But the guy who made this list said he did exactly that!
"you can't pretend to enjoy something"
I never said anyone does that. But people will listen to stuff that gets marketed more, or gets the hype on websites because they don't have the time to listen through everything else. There may be other stuff they may like alot more but they may not find it.
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starry
12.04.10 | Again people who talk like that just describe themselves.
Back on track for those who want to ignore the reality:
"im just listening to hv because im trying to finish up a nice 2010 list and thats the most well-received album i havent listened to probably."
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Enotron
12.04.10 | "Again people who talk like that just describe themselves"
except that makes no fucking sense and doesn't pertain to qwe or porch in the slightest. |
starry
12.04.10 | That's the impression they are giving me though. And someone else on another thread recently said this place has turned into a cesspit, if true that might explain some things here. |
porch
12.04.10 | “I think this is called self-projection”
no this is just you being blissfully unaware of what a fucking idiot you are. here, i’ll explain:
“but I just think some things that critics champion are way overrated at the expense even of other post-punk music”
so, because you listened to a few albums and didn’t like them, you think critics have way overrated them. actually what you originally said was that you think critics are trying to create their own ‘alternative can on albums’, which is even worse than i thought. You fucking idiot.
“But the guy who made this list said he did exactly that!”
Actually, the guy who made this list didn’t say any such thing. Go check. You fucking idiot.
"im just listening to hv because im trying to finish up a nice 2010 list and thats the most well-received album i havent listened to probably"
yeah except the guy that said that didn't make this list, and quoting that doesn't really prove anything anyway. oh man what are we going to do now
so as you can now see, you are a fucking idiot and it has nothing to do with self projection |
couldwinarabbit
12.04.10 | you two are awesome |
seifer
12.04.10 | so i've read what's goin and I only put this list up cuz I liked these albums and there no way in hell the national is overhyped just check out the lyrics and the musicianship in the album |
starry
12.04.10 | Doesn't matter if he didn't make this particular list, it could be about another list. I've talked with someone else on the same issue of what he hears and would list. So the point you make is kind of irrelevant.
Critics do create their canon. This is most evident on lists where they put lots of critics lists together and come up with a general list. As an example The Replacements did many more albums than 'Let it Be' and yet that one always comes on lists. Listening to their other albums I don't see it as being vastly superior at all to their other work. It seems to have simply developed a reputation as their best, so more people listen to that than the others. Maybe this can happen with alternative music which isn't so well known, and people don't have the time to listen to it all.
And yeh I have an opinion, and you really hate that don't you? Particularly if it goes against something you like. Hard luck.
And if I am an idiot why are you discussing with me? LOL |
starry
12.04.10 | seifer - I have no issue with you seifer, you can like what you like.
couldwinrabbit - who is awesome? |
seifer
12.04.10 | so starry what u've been listening to from 2010?
just to know |
qwe3
12.04.10 | "And yeh I have an opinion, and you really hate that don't you? Particularly if it goes against something you like. Hard luck."
omg seriously. you can't be THAT dumb |
couldwinarabbit
12.04.10 | ...how could I possibly "be" a rabbit...that makes no sense what so ever. I was referring to Porch and
Qwe and you look really really dumb arguing with them. |
BigTuna
12.04.10 | "just check out the lyrics and the musicianship in the album" |
starry
12.04.10 | Wow what a trivial response from couldwinarabbit
"so starry what u've been listening to from 2010?
just to know"
I don't think I could even be arsed saying right now. |
couldwinarabbit
12.04.10 | He's rocking the new Kesha album.
Also your little story about the National- Alligator is the worst thing I have ever seen in the
english language...and I used to volunteer with the mentally challenged. |
seifer
12.04.10 | well atleast kesha's album isn't overhyped right? |
starry
12.04.10 | qwe3 - I could have put a couple of early post-punk recommendations not mentioned yet in your Best of Post-Punk list that you set up as you said you were not very 'well versed in the genre'. But as you should no doubt realise you have no chance in hell of getting anything from me now. |
starry
12.04.10 | Haven't even heard the Kesha album. |
seifer
12.04.10 | starry aren't u acting like a kid now srsly
but well bad luck for u qwe, hope u'll over this quickly |
Inveigh
12.04.10 | "But as you should no doubt realise you have no chance in hell of getting anything from me now."
yeah, that'll show him. |
starry
12.04.10 | LOL, there are enough kids (literally, and immature adolescent ones at that) on this website and I'm not one of them. |
BigTuna
12.04.10 | yeah that'll show him |
seifer
12.04.10 | "But as you should no doubt realise you have no chance in hell of getting anything from me now."
posting this is acting mature?
yeah right |
starry
12.04.10 | Just to say I know that genre better than some want to insist, but no way am I helping someone like him. I don't take crap from people, if I did I would be an idiot. I can change my approach on this website if need be. If people don't want discussion they won't get it. |
qwe3
12.04.10 | "I could have put a couple of early post-punk recommendations not mentioned yet in your Best of Post-Punk list that you set up as you said you were not very 'well versed in the genre'. But as you should no doubt realise you have no chance in hell of getting anything from me now."
oh no whatever will i do now |
couldwinarabbit
12.04.10 | @starry I mean this in a nonsnarky kind sowingseasonesp way...you are fucking wrong. The users who are calling you an idiot are not some unrespected good for nothing immature users. They are some of the most respected users...just look at their shoutboxes all it is is users asking for recs. Just give it up apologize and everyone in this thread will have a higher opinion of you. |
seifer
12.04.10 | dont think its gonna happen anytime soon.. |
starry
12.04.10 | Apologise for what LOL, I haven't called anybody anything.
"I mean this in a nonsnarky kind sowingseasonesp way"
That had me laughing! |
starry
12.04.10 | Come on apologise to me, you have been really insulting. |
sollopsist
12.04.10 | Blue Sky Noise sucks, it's a shame too because Circa are great. |
DoubtGin
12.04.10 | i love my heated (not-so-much) discussions |
wyankeif1337
12.04.10 | intense shit goin' down here on Sputnik lists |
porch
12.04.10 | starry is one of those people that desperately wants to appear intelligent when in reality he’s even dumber than the average herd follower he’s attempting to rail against
“I've talked with someone else on the same issue of what he hears and would list”
oh wow did you really talk to some guy what a rock solid argument to base huge generalizations on.
the rest of your comment is flawed as well but i think i've spent enough time quoting stupid shit in this thread |
Realm
12.04.10 |
going to put starry in the tard zone |
Torii
12.05.10 | Cool list :) |
wyankeif1337
12.05.10 | I thought your name was "Troll" for a second there |
