TheIdiot
11.20.10 | What a fucking beast omg. |
psykonaut
11.20.10 | fucking agreed about #1, but there's a lot of other amazing music this year man |
starry
11.20.10 | Age of Adz is one of the best this year (shame about the cover though lol). There is some other good music but in a different style mainly, so others might be as good but on their own different terms. |
TheIdiot
11.20.10 | Obviously music isn't objectively comparable to a certain extent. But I think he's really revolutionized how exactly a song can be formed, and how a song can convey a certain attitude. Brilliant. |
MUNGOLOID
11.20.10 | WOO! |
TheIdiot
11.20.10 | I'm just incredibly impressed by his songwriting ability.
I never would have expected this of him. |
deathofasalesman
11.20.10 | Should I listen to this? Cuz Illinoise was soooooo pretentious. |
thebhoy
11.20.10 | Illinoise was not pretentious what the shit do you even know what you're saying? |
TheIdiot
11.20.10 | This is probably more pretentious. But elitism and the like only spurs from the reaction of the audience and has little to do with the objective output of the musician. This is a hell of a lot different than Illinoise. It is a lot more diverse. He writes songs in a very unique way that seems to compress three or four songs worth of ideas into one song. There are songs where he shreds. There are songs where he has the keenest of ears towards production. He's really just upped the ante with this one. No one has ever made music like this. Genre indefinable.
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TheIdiot
11.20.10 | Check out the All Delighted People EP first. He takes the more indie style that he was accustomed to and hints at the progression he'd eventually make towards this album. It's a little more palatable though |
deathofasalesman
11.20.10 | thebhoy - You 5'd it. Of course you're gonna say it's not pretentious.
TheIdiot - I might check it out then. But "genre indefinable" kinda makes me wonder. |
TheIdiot
11.20.10 | Not in a bad way. It's just so ornate that it kind of overcomes the restriction of being defined as "Indie" but doesn't seem to want to fit anywhere in specific. I'll admit that it's a very experimental album and that might be off putting for some, but it's worth whatever time you invest in it. It's a rewarding record |
vanderb0b
11.20.10 | Sufjan wouldn't be even near my top 10, js. |
DoubtGin
11.20.10 | http://pitchfork.com/news/40793-video-sufjan-stevens-does-the-robot-on-fallon/
Sufjan in action |
SlightlyEpic
11.20.10 | haven't even listened to it at all ever but I bet it's
not the best |
PanasonicYouth
11.20.10 | tried listening to this and couldn't get through it its soooooooo much worse than illinoise imo |
Spec
11.20.10 | Fuck that. |
starry
11.20.10 | This is far better than anything I have heard from him before, much more interesting as music. But to say it's 'revolutionised music' is going a bit far and I think shows unawareness of the vast experimentation that has gone on within some music over the years. |
TheIdiot
11.20.10 | Uhm. What? I'm pretty sure that I'm not unaware of the greater context of music in which this sits. If you take the time to pay critical attention to what is going on in each one of these songs, and how they're compose, you'll realize that he has made music that transcends formula. He creates songs that fluidly juxtapose themselves against their whole, and fits more ideas into one song in a coherent way than anyone is doing. His production value is absurd. |
starry
11.20.10 | Other people have done music that transcends formula too. It just sounds a bit like hyperbole when people say someone has revolutionised music. And really I don't care if he has or hasn't, neither you or I are probably writing music histories. All that matters to me is that the music seems good and can be enjoyable to me. |
drasticaction74
11.20.10 | for fucksake |
thebhoy
11.20.10 | Deathofasalesman: " But elitism and the like only spurs from the reaction of the audience and has little to do with the objective output of the musician." This. Music cannot be pretentious, inherently so. Lyrics can, yes, but you seem to be mistaking pretension for ambition and tongue-in-cheek humour. |
Xplisit
11.20.10 | YOU PRETENTIOUS PIECE OF SHIT !!
z lol /// |
wyankeif1337
11.20.10 | I tried listening to this and I honestly can't fathom what the big deal is. |
MrBirdoWordo
11.20.10 | I tried listening to this and I honestly can't fathom what the big deal is [2]. |
SoapySoap
11.20.10 | "tried listening to this and couldn't get through it its soooooooo much worse than illinoise imo"
Fuck that. |
