NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | hey Michael, yeah I know ur view on screamo anyway, but like you said in your review, Saetia even sucks for the genre. |
EyesWideShut
05.27.10 | Spires, and that Orchid album really needs to be higher. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | orchid kinda bores me, but the 3 is because sometimes im in the mood to say 'fuck you' to the world. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | if 1 is the best album on this list, the list is full of suck. |
alachlahol
05.27.10 | your Gospel sound off says they're "a little too jammy for screamo" which is the dumbest thing ever
you still need to listen to the french bands:
Sed Non Satiata - Le Ciel De Notre Enfance
Aussitot Mort - Montuenga
Daitro - Laisser Vivre Les Squelettes |
Motiv3
05.27.10 | you suck ^^. Suis La Lune ftw. That is all. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | oh SHIT. I forgot about Gospel. And they yes they can be a little too jammy for screamo but they still rule. shit. Ill put them in. |
Motiv3
05.27.10 | message was to BigHans btw |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | "orchid kinda bores me"
Shit son, your life is wayyy more exciting than mine then. |
sniper
05.27.10 | Ampere
Archives
Daitro
Elder
Envy
Gospel
Hot Cross
Jerome's Dream
Joshua Fit For Battle
Loma Prieta
Mesa Verde
Pianos Become the Teeth
Pg.99
Saetia
Sed Non Satiata
Suis La Lune
Takaru
Touche Amore
...Who Calls So Loud |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | yes Orchid kinda bores me and such. And yeah I love and hate Bighans, good guy, knows his genre, but needs to learn not to speak of genres that he knows nothing about. like screamo. He says its just noise, yeah, a valid opinion, but dont say it 'sucks' because you dont like the genre. |
sniper
05.27.10 | Kilie
The Fall of Boss Koala
Portait
missed those. |
sniper
05.27.10 | Oh dude, and Ampere >> Orchid in my book so check them out. Orchid is cool too though. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | Hot Cross. |
SlightlyEpic
05.27.10 | this genre sucks screamo sucks skramz sucks orchid suck i suck assuck |
iBosley
05.27.10 | I Hate Myself
Amanda Woodward
Neil Perry
Moss Icon
|
iBosley
05.27.10 | Assuck +1 |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Do I know if the entire genre sucks? No. The only ones on here I've heard are 1 and 8, and both are amongst the most insipid, wretched pieces of music I have ever been subjected to. If I actually heard something worth a damn, I would say its good, which of course is only my opinion.
And btw, I have multiple genres. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | lol Bighans, leave screamo to the big boys and go jack off to Back in Black. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | You mean go jack off to one of the greatest hard rock records of all time? Gladly. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | There are very few types of music I don't like at least a little Chambered. Is just that I truly fucking abhor CTTS. I fucking hate them. Saetia is probably even worse but they don't get sucked off nearly as bad on this site. |
Athom
05.27.10 | @hans: if http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYfPLqRKeus and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plMt9mcmKg8 dont change your mind, nothing will |
Klekticist
05.27.10 | gospel > mesa verde |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | Ew you would actually fap to AC/DC? Fucking gross, dude. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | No hans, good classic hard rock aint AC/Suck C. Good classic hard rock is Sabbath, Zeppelin, Motorhead, you get the idea. AC/DC sucks. Always have, always will. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Ew you would actually fap to AC/DC? Fucking gross, dude.
^ No, but its good music for drilling a gf to. |
Klekticist
05.27.10 | definitely. cant stand em. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Sed Non Satiata - Les hommes sans visage
^ I like this song. Why? Because theres an actual fucking melody and the vocals are much better than Drew Fagzieles. Even though this is in French, I could understand more words in two minutes of this track than all of the Roots Undo. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | lol melody? Dont say melody when you have any AC/DC album at 5. Melody is an important thing in music, and CTTS's forte aren't their vocal melodies, its their lyrics, musicianship and structure. Dont be pissed just cause u dont understand. |
Athom
05.27.10 | neutral, shut the fuck up |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | CTTS is the most diverse and unique band in the genre. Consistent, witty, and sometimes just plain old fun. Its a great album, dont be pissed son. Its ok. AC/DC sucks balls, its ok. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | I understand perfectly well that CTTS is a ridiculously overhyped band on here, and their "magnum opus" isnt worth wiping my ass with.
I understand well Prog, but you are so edgy and cool because you think they are great and AC/DC sucks. |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | "No, but its good music for drilling a gf to."
If she's deaf, maybe. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | hey redsky, I dont know what you think ur doing by telling me to stfu on my own post, but why dont you ride some more of Matt Beringer's dick. Get off my thread. |
Athom
05.27.10 | I like CTTS, but there are a lot of better screamo/emo bands out there, be they american like Pg. 99 and Off Minor, or 'other' like Envy and Sed Non Satiata. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | No hans, me hating AC/DC is not edgy and cool. Lots of people hate them. Their vocals suck, their riffs are monotonous, they have no diversity, their lyrics are annoying, they over-hyped because of the rebellious edge to their music, they suck even worse now, they are all horrible musicians. Thats why they suck. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | not in my opinion. When looking at Off Minor's lyrics, which Ive been intrigued by, they may be the best, but most of the time they bore me too tears. I like CTTS the most because a. The album flows phenomenally, with recurring themes and such, b. I love their aggressive and 'free-flowing' song structures, c. I love the dual vocals, d. The cd is very well produced, which is sort of rare for most of skramz. I also enjoy the more 'post-rock-ish' screamo like Envy, and City of Caterpillar. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Lol, I'm sure you are a far superior guitar player to Angus Young.
Variation? Who gives a shit? They certainly don't. Its not the intent of the music. Its partying/fighting/roadtripping music, pure and simple.
And don't talk about the vocals if you like CTTS. Fagziele is easily the worst vocalist I've ever heard. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Envy - A Road Of Winds The Water Builds
^ This song is infinitely better than anything CTTS have come up with. I love the music here, the atmospheric, almost post rock ambience behind it. The vocals almost sound metal-like to me instead of the sound of some limp wristed hippie outcast screaming at the top of his lungs because he probably got the shit kicked out of him in school. |
Athom
05.27.10 | "Fagziele is easily the worst vocalist I've ever heard."
In defense of him, I don't think he's great, but he fits the music fine, which is all i really ask for when it comes to heavy music. If you truly want the worst vocals listen to Austere or Xasthur. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Those were good recs Red Sky. See Prog, I can "get" Screamo. It just has to be worth a damn. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | Ok im going to to attempt to stay neutral here...
NeutralThunder- Give up, he obviously has no taste. He fuckin likes shit like AC/DC and Meh-tallica. He obviously won't be able to appreciate a more refined genre of music like screamo, and elitism be damned, yes screamo is more refined than anything Metallica or AC/DC have ever written.
BigHans- Just leave, we get that you dont like screamo, quit trolling around this list and go beat off to a Metallica documentary.
Wow that whole staying neutral thing did NOT work. |
Athom
05.27.10 | As someone that used to be an elitist prick, all I have to say is that by chastising someone's tastes you really shoot yourself in the foot, because instead of being able to get someone into a style of music you like you just end up building a bigger wall. Not to mention you end up looking like an ass. Case in point, Hans came into this thread not liking screamo based on a few bands he had heard and as far as I can tell he now at least enjoys some of what it has to offer. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Comatorium. Maybe you should read up where I glossed over two screamo songs Red Sky rec'd instead of being butthurt that somebody called out CTTS.
As I said repeatedly, if its worth a damn, I will like it, regardless of genre.
1. Props for having Boston at a 5.
2. Go have a pillow-biting fest with ced Bixler and big bad Drew. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | Some of BigHans' ratings. AWESOME name by the way...
5-
AC/DC Powerage
AC/DC Back in Black
Def Leppard Pyromania
Metallica Master of Puppets
Metallica Ride the Lightning
4.5-
AC/DC Highway To Hell
AC/DC AC/DC Live [2-Disc Collector's Edition]
AC/DC Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
AC/DC AC/DC Live
Metallica Cunning Stunts
Metallica Live Sh*t: Binge and Purge
Metallica Metallica
Metallica ...And Justice for All
Metallica Kill Em All
...
2.5-
Neutral Milk Hotel In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
2-
Circle Takes The Square As the Roots Undo
Converge Jane Doe
1.5-
The Mars Volta Frances the Mute
I rest my fucking case. Your opinion means less than nothing.
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NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | Redsky, instead of commenting in my thread, again, go ride Beringer's dick. We all know you want it. |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | All of this is opinion guys. |
Athom
05.27.10 | I would but he filed a restraining order after I came on to him after a show. I'm not allowed with in 500 feet of him. I'm out of here. Later faggots. |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | Except AC/SC sucking, that is. |
FreePizzaDay
05.27.10 | AC/DC* |
SeaAnemone
05.27.10 | holy shit you need to shut up Neutral. like always. you can be a lovable retard sometimes, but this is just pathetic, sorry-- especially for a guy that only a few months ago, if I recall correctly, denounced everything screamo. I'm far from an expert from the genre, but please learn to show a little respect, especially to those that know worlds more than you (redsky) |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Some of BigHans' ratings. AWESOME name by the way...
^ you point this out as if its something I'm trying to hide. I stand by those, go ahead and post some more if you want. Btw, you forgot my 5 for Hulk Hogan.
Go ahead and slam AC/DC all you want, its not for everybody. But pointing out that I "5'd" Master of Puppets makes you look like a fucking idiot. Pretty sure I'm not alone in that argument. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Drew Speziale posted a blog entry and Youtube video about his new pet rooster:
^ What an unbelieveable hippie douchebag he is. |
SlightlyEpic
05.27.10 | hey man if i had a pet rooster i would post a blog entry about it don't h8 |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | Eric- We've been over this. You'd like me to shut up. Its not happening. You can wash that dream down the drain along with everything AC/DC has ever done. Thats it. And I never said I was a fucking expert on it, dont put words in my mouth, I and Hans are simply having an argument here-no need for you to intervene- you are contributing nothing. And I dont give a shit who you think 'knows more than me'. I can show respect if I feel like it, as I respect you, and ave respected redskyformiles since I've been here, so dont tell me what I need to show, your opinion is a vast emptiness that nobody cares about. And yes Hans, we all know that Metallica is beast, so fuck whoever that was who said 'meh-tallica' and you and I both know that this is just how we argue, so all others can go ride their own respective dicks. |
Athom
05.27.10 | hey man if i had a pet gerbil i would call richard gere about it |
BigHans
05.27.10 | For what its worth, Prog and I have light hearted spats like this all the time, since he likes to rape my shoutbox and I respond because the kid amuses me sometimes.
And Prog, are you going to let Comatorium slam Metallica? You might be a bigger fan boy than me. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | The only thing Metallica has ever done that is worth two shits is Kill Em All. Beyond that, they are awful. Just, god awful. Im not saying that screamo is a holy genre, cause its not, and not to mention i know very little about it. Though I can say that calling CTTS and Saetia "the most insipid, wretched pieces of music I have ever been subjected to" is retarded to a level one could only expect from a Metallica fan. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | The only thing Metallica has ever done that is worth two shits is Kill Em All. Beyond that, they are awful. Just, god awful.
^ So here you're talking about Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning, AJFA, and Black. Sure, some people hate black for the change in sound, and I can respect that. But aside from that, you're a moron. |
SlightlyEpic
05.27.10 | they're really not THAT bad though they do have redeemable merits even to someone that hates everything |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | Comatorium. Let me make this clear. Im not going to rage on you. But I will say this, you are wrong, Metallica are a phenomenally important band to a genre they helped create, they are fantastic song-writers and had a way of piecing riffs together like no other band. Back in the old days, they changed the metal world. While recently they have sucked many a ballsack, their first 4 albums were divine pieces of music, where lyricism and total riffage stand out beyond any other band, no matter how fast or technical the band is. So please. dont diss my favorite band over my thread, go jack off to whatever it is that turns you on, whether it be your mother or your 2nd cousin. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | @Jordan: Thats all classical stuff. Get with the times. Not that I dont enjoy Carcassi and Stravinsky when Im in the mood, but still, get with the times. |
Athom
05.27.10 | I was kind of hoping MJ would spout some knowledge. It would be like Kemp dunking on Lister |
BigHans
05.27.10 | MJ already slammed CTTS as well as anyone possibly could in his review. Its probably my favorite review on the site. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Kemp was a beast before multiple paternity suits and a crushing case of laziness did him in. |
Yotimi
05.27.10 | I love Sputnik |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | NeutralThunder-
oh wow. i was actually on your side here, but way to be a dick. i think the only person here who's in the right would be eric, and its kinda fucked up for you to be such an ass to him for a perfectly reasonable post. i wont deny the impact that metallica had on thrash, and without them i probably wouldnt have municipal waste, so thats something theyre good for. if you actually look at my ratings for metallica's discog, you'll see that i didnt blatantly rate everything a 1... i can appreciate a few of their jams, but for the most part i personally find them mediocre in every sense of the word. that and hetfield and ulrich are the biggest douchebags in music.
MichaelJordan-
the difference between you and BigHans is that your reviews are excellently written. Our opinions differ, obviously, but you arent a twat about it usually. |
Athom
05.27.10 | This is making me want to play NBA Jam. I always used to play as the sonics. Shawn Kemp and Detlef Schrempf ftw |
BigHans
05.27.10 | MJ- the difference between you and BigHans is that your reviews are excellently written. Our opinions differ, obviously, but you arent a twat about it usually.
^ I had a feeling you would suck up to him because you are clearly afraid of him. He would destroy you. And by the way, your 75% approval rating means you have zero place in talking about how well anyone else writes. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | Dude its Sputnik. I dont care about my approval rating lol.
And yes, he terrifies me. |
NeutralThunder12
05.27.10 | lol Coma, Municipal Waste is utter crap |
Inveigh
05.27.10 | jesus i jus wasted like 15 minutes of my life reading this thread. i was a bit distracted though, what with work and all...
i think pretty much all you guys are good stuff, and i'm nowhere close to a skramz expert. ATRU is pretty ok, I like it if I'm in the right mood but that's about as far as it goes for me..
and yeah, being an elitist douchebag doesn't get you anywhere, but this thread is full of internet douchebagerry. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | I think this whole thing proves that both Metallica and CTTS fanboys can get butthurt, the only difference is CTTS fans are used to it because they have a natural proclivity to enjoy taking it in the ass (KIDDING Comatrium, settle down bro).
Anyway, we can stop arguing, I just cemented my theory that although I rarely get into arguments here, when I do, it is almost always with someone who hates Metallica and will be some combination of ATDI/Mars Volta/CTTS fan boy. Oh well. |
Inveigh
05.27.10 | oh yeah, and BigHans has written a lot of great reviews, so your comment just leads me to believe you've never read any of his stuff. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | oh yeah, and BigHans has written a lot of great reviews, so your comment just leads me to believe you've never read any of his stuff
^ Thanks, although I will cop to the fact some of my first ones are pretty sub par. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | 1. I'll agree to disagree with BigHans
2. The Waste does NOT suck.
3. 6 really is 1, srsly. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | 6 is 1 guys. |
Athom
05.27.10 | I saw CTTS live a few years ago. It was sloppy as fuck, but I enjoyed it. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Seriously though, I'm glad I came in here, I really liked that Envy song. |
Comatorium.
05.27.10 | Cause Envy is badass. MY first experience with them was their split with Thursday. I suggest you go download that NAO. |
BigHans
05.27.10 | Probably will. |
Motiv3
05.27.10 | holy list. |
sniper
05.27.10 | Ugh. |
Optimist
05.28.10 | i feel like i wasted so much of my life reading this thread... but i liked that envy song redsky posted. just getting into screamo, so it looks like i need some envy. props to you redsky.
6 is 1 [4].
NBA Jam ftw.
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Ire
05.28.10 | Sed Non Satiata/Daitro - split |